S16.E12: Week 12

[EllenB]

Dammit, show, after all these seasons, I actually teared up a bit with that good-bye.

[Thumper]

Just now, DEL901 said:

She is crying...was he her #1?

Didn’t seem like it, the way she was with Zac.  (Didn’t see Ivan’s date.)

[saber5055]

Go ahead and cry your eyes out Tayshia, because I DON'T GIVE A CARE. You can go rot.

EXCEPT: Now I figure that's Brendan coming back and knocking on her door.

This show sucks.

[Irlandesa]

6 minutes ago, Thumper said:

Makes me think that each contestant should do the same date.  He didn’t get the “fun” date like Zac did.

Well they did put Zac and Tayshia in wedding photos early on.  So maybe a little more fun than this ring date but still an awkward "imagine your wedding" type date that he handled pretty well.

So it's not impossible to make it a fun date.  Neither one made it happen.

[Ripley68]

I think she was in shock.  Has anyone left of their own volition before the fantasy card got handed out?  Really want to know since I only started watching with Jo Jo.  She has been saying since their first date that she sees Brenden as her husband, so he must have been her number 1, though her chemistry with Zac is off the chart.

Yeah, she's crying, but she acted more upset when Blake left. 

Edited December 22, 2020 by Ripley68

[EllenB]

1 minute ago, DEL901 said:

She is crying...was he her #1?

Even if not, I think she was very fond of him.

[DEL901]

3 minutes ago, Ripley68 said:

I think she was in shock.  Has anyone left of their own volition before the fantasy card got handed out?  Really want to know since I only started watching with Jo Jo. 

Yeah, she's crying, but she acted more upset when Blake left. 

Constantine...Ashley Hebert... but she wasn’t really upset because JP. 
 

And Graham told Deanna to cut him at around hometowns or he would turn down the rose if she offered it. 

Edited December 22, 2020 by DEL901

[JenE4]

Well, I guess it’s good that Brendan broke up with her before they did “fiancé stuff” in the fantasy suite.

2 minutes ago, saber5055 said:

Go ahead and cry your eyes out Tayshia, because I DON'T GIVE A CARE. You can go rot.

EXCEPT: Now I figure that's Brendan coming back and knocking on her door.

This show sucks.

I don’t think he’s coming back. It’s probably Harrison coming by for a debrief of her feelings re Brendan leaving.

[dirtypop90]

Just now, Ripley68 said:

I think she was in shock.  Has anyone left of their own volition before the fantasy card got handed out?  Really want to know since I only started watching with Jo Jo. 

Yeah, she's crying, but she acted more upset when Blake left. 

and Riley and we know she didn't want him. 

This has been game over for me for awhile. She didn't have chemistry with anyone but Zac and Ben IMO and Ben went home last week and just wasn't ready to get engaged so never thought it would be him.

I do think tayshia has made some good friendships and cared about multiple men. But I've only seen a love connection with Zac.

[Crashcourse]

I'm sick of that damn commercial with the little girl running to her military daddy.

[saber5055]

6 minutes ago, Ripley68 said:

Yeah, she's crying, but she acted more upset when Blake left. 

When they showed her balcony after Zac left, I was thinking there's the perfect location for her Mesnick.

LOL at breakfast table set for two. Did T sleep in the FS?

Oh, I guess it's for Rachel. Eh. Yuck. Now Rachel and T are doing a WTA episode.

Edited December 22, 2020 by saber5055

[TheFinalRose]

I doubt it was the ring date that put Brendan over the edge. Maybe he was glad that it looked like the producers set him up but Tayisha seems pretty composed the next morning so no big deal, right? 

[Crashcourse]

Rachel the relationship expert.  Riiiiiiiight. 🙄 

[Ripley68]

I really hate Rachel's hair that way. She's had it that way for a long time.  oooo, that "zac has been really interesting to me" was totally frankenbitten.

Rachel did ask real questions, unlike Jo Jo. 

Shouldn't they know that Brendan left since the other 2 came back from their dates and he didn't?

If I was Zac, and she said I Love you to me, I would have asked if she had feelings for other guys too.  He sounds so hopeful.

Dirtypop, all other seasons have 3 days between fantasy dates. Tayshia's were back to back.

Edited December 22, 2020 by Ripley68

[JenE4]

Ok, she’s TOTALLY FINE with Rachel that Brendan left. Is Zac going to leave now, too?! She’s definitely not crying over Brendan. New theory: Ben comes back and tells her he loves her—and that’s the information she doesn’t know what to do with. Does she get engaged to Zac or give Ben another chance?

[TheFinalRose]

Wow. It's Ben! Chris Harrison's surprise face is not convincing. At. All.  He probably had to re-shoot the scene several times. 

[saber5055]

HA ha ha! It's BEN! And he's wearing a henley, not a scoop. Good for him.

This season is really digging, working hard to create SOMETHING for people to talk about. Those editors have to be exhausted.

[Crashcourse]

Good grief, I don't want or need to see Ben again.

[saber5055]

1 minute ago, JenE4 said:

Does she get engaged to Zac or give Ben another chance?

Tune in tomorrow night to find out!

[dirtypop90]

It doesn't seem like we are getting an ATFR so I don't think Ben will change the ending.

[JenE4]

1 minute ago, saber5055 said:

Tune in tomorrow night to find out!

I got my new theory in there right under the wire!

[Tink]

Why does Ivan keep saying things like “we could do anything together” “we can rule the world“? I know he’s said it more than once tonight because it just sounds odd to me. Have they ever talked about what that future would look like?

[Crashcourse]

This has been a season full of nice guys but for some reason it's been boring as hell, I don't care how fun and happy Tayshia has been.  It's not that I was looking for drama or asshole guys, but I guess Covid is to blame.   Yeah, that's it.

[Kiss my mutt]

Yeah, just the kind of guy I want, one that shuts down when he gets scared in a relationship. Bye, Ben! At least it wasn’t Bennett. 
They totally set up Brendan to kinda flush him out on his true feelings. That guy was sweating bullets. 
There is definitely more chemistry with Zac and a much better fantasy suite but I don’t think they’ll last. He’s just not stable enough. 

[Crashcourse]

No need to have the boobs hanging out like that Tayshia.

[Fable]

15 minutes ago, Ripley68 said:

I think she was in shock.  Has anyone left of their own volition before the fantasy card got handed out?  Really want to know since I only started watching with Jo Jo.

If I remember right, Frank from Ali's season left at F3 before the FS.  

[catrice2]

So, all you have to do on this show is ask Chris for another chance?  So none of the other guys wanted to do that?  This is ridiculous, especially after her big rant to the guys about being a grown woman confident in her decisions!   She just got rid of one guy who couldn't express his emotions, so you take one back?  She described Ben as "hot." I don't see it. 

And Ivan got a RV and a Ice Bath????!! 

[dizzyd]

I can feel her rolling her eyes and I’m right with her on that.

[saber5055]

1 minute ago, Crashcourse said:

No need to have the boobs hanging out like that Tayshia.

THANK YOU. T has two roses and two guys, but NOW she has to have a RC when she's cancelled them before when the guys wanted them. All I can think is, she wants the guys to meet the girls. Again.

[Kiss my mutt]

Tayshia’s like what the actual fuck?

[Crashcourse]

I don't think it's fair that Ben gets to come back.  This is some bullshit. 

[dizzyd]

4 minutes ago, saber5055 said:

THANK YOU. T has two roses and two guys, but NOW she has to have a RC when she's cancelled them before when the guys wanted them. All I can think is, she wants the guys to meet the girls. Again.

I don’t remember her cancelling. Wasn’t that Clare.

[catrice2]

2 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

I don't think it's fair that Ben gets to come back.  This is some bullshit. 

She has issues. The fact that he came back to "profess" his love is a little stalkery to me....AND the production would have known for days that was what he wanted to do but wait until that time to insert him back in??  Are we to believe that none of the other guys would not have come back to have a better ending....and the forced conversation with Rachel about him??  And she lets him back?  I've said it all along, she is not ready....but Ben fits her Insta life...she doesn't have to worry about moving from California and he likes the limelight as much as she does.  Run Ivan, Run Zac...

[Thumper]

5 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

I don't think it's fair that Ben gets to come back.  This is some bullshit. 

Maybe because Brendan is out and they need 3?

[saber5055]

2 minutes ago, dizzyd said:

I don’t remember her cancelling. Wasn’t that Clare.

Correction! T cancelled the cocktail party before the RC. My mistake. The cocktail party and the RC run together for me. Sorry!

8 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

I don't think it's fair that Ben gets to come back.  This is some bullshit. 

Hey, Bennett got to come back, not that that wasn't some bullshit too!

[nutty1]

I just started watching now and the first words out of one of the guy’s mouth was “we’ve basically been dating the same woman for weeks now”. How ludicrous is it that they’re all thinking of marrying her. It’s amazing any of the couples ever lasted. 

[dizzyd]

 I’m not concerned about Ben’s return, surely she’s not letting him stay. She’s going to show him the door that’s “what she’s gonna do about that”.  I can see why she kept a drink in her hand, I’d need it too.

I’m glad we only have to wait one day for this to be over and not a whole week. I’m ready for Matty’s season. I hope its going to be better than this one but I’ll probably be disappointed with it too.

Edited December 22, 2020 by dizzyd

[catrice2]

If this show were real and I were the other men, the minute she let Ben back I would eliminate myself. 

 

5 minutes ago, dizzyd said:

 I’m not concerned about Ben’s return, surely she’s not letting him stay. She’s going to show him the door that’s “what she’s gonna do about that”.  I can see why she kept a drink in her hand, I’d need it too.

I’m glad we only have to wait one day for this to be over and not a whole week. I’m ready for Matty’s season. I hope its going to be better than this one but I’ll probably be disappointed with it too.

Nope, the previews showed her with him in a different dress in the morning....and him with the other guys. 

[TomGirl]

I see absolutely zero chemistry between Tayshia and Ivan.  Zero.

[catrice2]

3 minutes ago, TomGirl said:

I see absolutely zero chemistry between Tayshia and Ivan.  Zero.

I don't see chemistry with her and any of them.  A lot more kissing with the others, but even with that it is missing something....

[Fable]

So creepy ass Ben is back and sweet Brendan is gone.  How disappointing!  I really liked the three guys Tayshia had left, and Ben is like a fly in the ointment. 

[Recyclorette]

2 minutes ago, Fable said:

So creepy ass Ben is back and sweet Brendan is gone.  How disappointing!  I really liked the three guys Tayshia had left, and Ben is like a fly in the ointment. 

I was hoping it would be sweet Brendan!  And Ben wasn't the only returning fly in the ointment tonight.  Ugh!

[saber5055]

5 minutes ago, JudyObscure said:

Luke.  I was thinking about all that this afternoon.   I like Tayshia much better than Hannah, but somehow I was never bored during the Hannah show.  Her scene with Luke telling her that if she slept with the other guys it would be a deal breaker, and her replying that she already had -- four times.  That's some good TV!

I know, right? (tm Emily) I didn't like Hannah at all, but her season was anything but boring, like this one is. And Luke ... yeah, that was some good teevee. I don't know if it's the quarantining or what. Maybe it's the lack of travel porn. Come to think of it, I didn't hear anyone say "The La Quinta -- it's the perfect place to fall in love." So there's that!

And today, no Bachelor Handshake for any of the guys. What happened between last week and this week? Or yesterday and today, depending on how quickly this is being rushed along.

[Bluesky]

1 hour ago, Crashcourse said:

I don't think it's fair that Ben gets to come back.  This is some bullshit. 

Why would he come back?  Has he no pride?  For all of her bitching about Ben’s lack of emotion when she eliminated him she was pretty cool when Brendan said no thanks.  She’s like “can I walk you out”?   I’m sure she was more embarrassed about being dumped on TV than sad.  

[saber5055]

6 minutes ago, Recyclorette said:

I was hoping it would be sweet Brendan! 

Don't give up hope. There's still tomorrow. And truthfully, I thought it was going to be Brendon coming back too.

[catrice2]

13 minutes ago, Fable said:

So creepy ass Ben and sweet Brendan is gone.  How disappointing!  I really liked the three guys Tayshia had left, and Ben is like a fly in the ointment. 

She is a company girl...she is towing the line. Any woman would sense would have said immediately, "thank you and goodbye."  That along with the fact I see no real chemistry or "melding of the lifetstyles" with any of them tells me she will not have anything lasting with this. Tayshia wanted to be the Bachelorette, convinced herself she deserved it and convinced herself she wanted to get married. Tayshia, like Ben, needs to work on Tayshia. 

5 minutes ago, Bluesky said:

Why would he come back?  Has he no pride?  For all of her bitching about Ben’s lack of emotion when she eliminated him she was pretty cool when Brendan said no thanks.  She’s like “can I walk you out”?   I’m sure she was more embarrassed about being dumped on TV than sad.  

I don't watch this show and I agree.  But then I think she said something about shutting down herself when she is upset and appearing cold as a defense mechanism.  I fid find it interesting she told Zac she loved him, then old Brendan she thought it would be him all along.....would be brutal for her final one to watch....and makes me think she was acting. 

[saber5055]

Ben was just on TMZ. Posting what was said in the Spec and Spoiler thread.

[catrice2]

Do they always have the men together discussing or even looking at each other after fantasy dates?  That was just nasty to me and unnecessary.  Surely they had enough rooms at the resort? 

[Fable]

2 minutes ago, catrice2 said:

Do they always have the men together discussing or even looking at each other after fantasy dates?  That was just nasty to me and unnecessary. 

I'm pretty sure it's a new low for the franchise 🤢

[Gramblinggal]

How is it that Zac gets a true fantasy suite and Ivan gets a FEMA trailer? Can they make it anymore obvious that she is picking Zac? It's also unfair that Ben comes back and Tayshia's season itself is unfair because of the pandemic.  Also, I'm new here.