Million Dollar Beach House - General Discussion

[Door County Cherry]

Debuts on Netflix Aug. 26

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The competition is fierce — and the drama undeniable — as a group of young and hungry agents try to seal the deal on luxury listings in the Hamptons.

So basically Selling Sunset in the Hamptons?  I can say I won't watch but I probably will. 

[Stan39]

On 8/21/2020 at 8:41 PM, Door County Cherry said:

Debuts on Netflix Aug. 26

So basically Selling Sunset in the Hamptons?  I can say I won't watch but I probably will. 

Well, so far it seems totally different from Selling Sunset. Mostly guys (one girl), NY instead of LA, they seem nice, no drama (sure that will come), wear business attire, and most shockingly of all.... APPEAR TO BE SELLING HOUSES!!! Lol. Seriously, they’re actually doing walk through, brokers opens, discussing staging, and doing things real agents do. 
 

And as long as I live I will never understand why somebody selling their house would give a damn about how it was staged to sell or show up to the brokers open. You don’t live there anymore! It doesn’t need to look like you live there to get sold!

[Mountainair]

I definitely like this better than Selling Sunset. Actual properties! Some drama. I’m on episode 3 and wish the episodes were a bit longer but I am loving the real estate so far! 
 

Noel seems a bit of a pompous ass. Changing his name so it doesn’t rhyme with his twin brother’s only for Joel to call him out on it had me LOL! 
 

I can’t remember the football player guy’s name who is having a baby but he’s got eyes that verge on serial killer and it finally dawned on me who he looks like- Darren Criss. That’s all I got for now.

[Stan39]

1 hour ago, Mountainair said:

I definitely like this better than Selling Sunset. Actual properties! Some drama. I’m on episode 3 and wish the episodes were a bit longer but I am loving the real estate so far! 
 

Noel seems a bit of a pompous ass. Changing his name so it doesn’t rhyme with his twin brother’s only for Joel to call him out on it had me LOL! 
 

I can’t remember the football player guy’s name who is having a baby but he’s got eyes that verge on serial killer and it finally dawned on me who he looks like- Darren Criss. That’s all I got for now.

It was hilarious to watch how much more excited everyone was to see Joel instead of Noel. Granted, they see Noel every day and Joel lives in Korea, but still. 
 

I like the real estate but so far some of the work has been cringey. Not sure why one owner came to her own open house (and chose that to be her first moment seeing the staging), the other owner deciding to give the customer a tour, and then Noel was downright rude to the guy at the listing on his client’s behalf. When Noel said he expected the actual client to show up I would have just said, “ok. We can just go buy the house next door for a third of the price and I can tell my clients never to do business with you.”

[Stan39]

Binged the whole thing. Can’t believe that’s all they’ll show for a season. I loved the houses and real estate (probably one of the better produced real estate shows), but I couldn’t really follow what was going on with any of the agents. Except Matt. Clearly he was about to become a father because he mentioned it every two seconds. But did they even sell anything?

Peggy is certifiable. By the end I couldn’t even understand her point of view and why she felt everyone was against her. I had been on her side on the Noel thing, but the Sara thing made no sense to me, and her flipping out at the open house was beyond bizarre. I’m surprised the other brokers even out up with her. 

[Refresh]

14 hours ago, Stan39 said:

Peggy is certifiable. By the end I couldn’t even understand her point of view and why she felt everyone was against her. I had been on her side on the Noel thing, but the Sara thing made no sense to me, and her flipping out at the open house was beyond bizarre. I’m surprised the other brokers even out up with her. 

Right? I agreed with her about Noels horrible showing to her client. He didn’t appear to know  anything and was Aloof rude. I am nowhere in that income bracket and I even know rich people have other people to pre-shop for them. Especially when a property doesn’t seem to actually be for sale,  they were just showing to measure possible interest. Why be an asshole then Noel? I think he was trying to piss her off.

Her going apeshit on Cant-walk-in-heels Sara was not the solution. So unprofessional. Next level. I sense she felt she was being blocked out, which she was, Noel is playing her for some reason we don’t know, but that was crazy. 

I think she’s shrewd to try and get the new listing and not telling them. That said, the developer gives me the Creeps! I get Weinstein vibes. 
 

But the most important things...The homes! Loved the historic wood shingled one. Even with shitty grass in the backyard. And the modern one owned by the “jewelry designer” was cool but I agree with that guy who said a home of that style you expect a lot of tech. I don’t feel that one will age well. 

[Marley]

I obviously don’t have a house anywhere near as nice or as expensive as any of the ones on this show but I honestly didn’t really like most of them. Not my style. I’m not really an Atlantic Ocean fan tho. I know that sounds weird lol.

Michael always seems to have crazy eyes. He’s always so amped up like too much almost. I could see why he would’ve been a model when he was young tho.

Noel seems douchey, but Peggy is too much. That house he has overpriced isn’t that amazing. If I was rich I wouldn’t be that impressed to overpay that much.

Jimmy looks like a certain actor but I just can’t figure out which one.

JB and Michael must both come from rich families right?

Im not sure I like this show lol but yet I watched every episode.

 

Edited August 28, 2020 by Marley

[eelpout]

finished one episode and don't think I'll watch anymore and not for the reasons raised in the Decider article below.

I'm obviously living in a different universe than some others. 😕

‘Million Dollar Beach House’ Slammed for “Racist Vibes” by Netflix Viewers

 

[hula-la]

54 minutes ago, eelpout said:

finished one episode and don't think I'll watch anymore and not for the reasons raised in the Decider article below.

I'm obviously living in a different universe than some others. 😕

‘Million Dollar Beach House’ Slammed for “Racist Vibes” by Netflix Viewers

 

While I love the house porn, the microagression were really too much (but sadly, totally familiar to me and many others). You know what show I miss? Selling New York. No drama, no fighting, and they did a good job explaining the hard, long slog it is to sell high end real estate. 

[Mountainair]

Yea- no. I didn’t get racist vibes at all from this show. Noel himself clearly misrepresented himself and how to pronounce his own name. It’s an easy name to question the pronunciation of. Selling Sunset didn’t even have a single person of color on the show. Maybe just a blanket statement of all real estate shows are racist would fit here. I didn’t get any different vibe here than from any of the Million Dollar Listing shows either. 

[Door County Cherry]

Well I watched. And I have thoughts. 

On 8/27/2020 at 6:51 AM, Stan39 said:

Except Matt. Clearly he was about to become a father because he mentioned it every two seconds. But did they even sell anything?

Ha.  His name was Michael.  And they didn't sell a damn thing. There was maybe one or two moments of "write up an offer" but I don't think we actually heard an offer or was updated on an actual sale. 

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Peggy is certifiable. By the end I couldn’t even understand her point of view and why she felt everyone was against her. I had been on her side on the Noel thing, but the Sara thing made no sense to me, and her flipping out at the open house was beyond bizarre. I’m surprised the other brokers even out up with her. 

I think Peggy can be explained by the fact that she is probably one of those people who wants to be a success at what she does.   If you look at the actual profiles on the real estate website, she and Jimmy are by far (like a long far) the most successful agents. She's also a lawyer. 

And I think she was the one person who struck me as having watched a reality show and therefore knew what needed to be done to make a reality show work.  But very few of her coworkers, with the exception of Michael at times, were giving her what she needed to make it happen so she came off as unhinged. 

For instance, she had a right to not be thrilled with Noel's attitude at the listing.  And she had a right to share it--which she did with her fellow agents and the interior designers and maybe some other people too. 

But the fact that she told so many people about it made her look ridiculous when she acted like Noel was the only person who could have possibly told Sarah about the tension resulting from the showing.  So many people could have shared that info because she told them.  Noel doesn't really have much motive to dwell on that showing, especially since he claimed his guard which up.  That might be true or he might be a dick but giving an explanation is a tacit admission that he didn't behave the greatest and how many of us talk about that time we were not good at our jobs?

Then there was the instance of the text message which she claimed "proved" he told Sarah that he didn't want her at someone else's showing. But I think that was from Michael who told her that Sarah told him that Noel told him....etc.  So this felt like producer manipulation to me and neither Noel or Sarah actually copped to saying it and neither fully threw the other one under the bus either.  Therefore, Peggy acting like she had them dead to rights was weird, especially since Noel kept not wanting to continue the drama.  

 

On 8/27/2020 at 9:56 PM, Refresh said:

But the most important things...The homes! Loved the historic wood shingled one. Even with shitty grass in the backyard. And the modern one owned by the “jewelry designer” was cool but I agree with that guy who said a home of that style you expect a lot of tech. I don’t feel that one will age well. 

 

12 hours ago, eelpout said:

I'm obviously living in a different universe than some others. 😕

‘Million Dollar Beach House’ Slammed for “Racist Vibes” by Netflix Viewers

I didn't necessarily see everything as racist but there were definitely moments that made me cringe.  Michael, for one, rubbed me the wrong way.  Calling Noel "No-el" kind of makes sense if he knew that name first before this random, very brief, pronunciation switch.  Not that it matters why he changed his name. No-el isn't typical and I can't imagine how many times he and his brother have had to correct the pronunciation of their names.  I can see how a real estate agent might feel it to be just easier to use the most common pronunciation so they're not constantly correcting potential clients. 

But referring to Noel as a "very polished gentleman" came off as a microaggression.  It just seemed to be an odd observation given that they're all working in  real estate which is a profession where polish is considered an asset.  Look at Michael's best friend, JB, who is super polished yet that's not how Michael talks about him.  Noel wants to sell multi million dollar homes, of course he's fuckin' polished. 

And Michael can shut it with his criticism of Noel's behavior with Peggy's client when he shows a house half undressed and refers to a toilet as a "shitter" while doing a walk through. 

But that, surprisingly, wasn't my biggest issue with the show.  My issues were also detailed on Decider; albeit in the Stream It Or Skip It article.  The house porn was beautiful but I do think Selling Sunset feels more "real" when it comes to real estate.  All of the owners showing up makes me think that being able to appear on camera was a trade off for letting the show use their houses.  All of them felt awkward selling real estate except Peggy and Jimmy, who are both pretty successful, but who we rarely see selling.  

 

[shoetingstar]

On 8/26/2020 at 2:43 PM, Mountainair said:

I definitely like this better than Selling Sunset. Actual properties! Some drama. I’m on episode 3 and wish the episodes were a bit longer but I am loving the real estate so far! 
 

Noel seems a bit of a pompous ass. Changing his name so it doesn’t rhyme with his twin brother’s only for Joel to call him out on it had me LOL! 
 

I can’t remember the football player guy’s name who is having a baby but he’s got eyes that verge on serial killer and it finally dawned on me who he looks like- Darren Criss. That’s all I got for now.

I'm only on the 1st episode, and these people all look older than their ages! J.B. is 28? Mike is 30?! Just a general observation of society lately, Is it just me, or do 40+ look younger and the 30 and under crowd look much older lately?!

That's Michael/Mike. Yes, his eyes ARE scary! But he seems to be a big teddy bear.

Peggy talks too much and frankly comes off as, silly. I already can she's gonna get on my nerves. The Ladies on SS come off more professional actually. However, the client likes her and Noel is just not as personable/friendly, though I get his point about him taking the lead. She undermined him on the price.

On 8/26/2020 at 12:27 PM, Stan39 said:

Well, so far it seems totally different from Selling Sunset. Mostly guys (one girl), NY instead of LA, they seem nice, no drama (sure that will come), wear business attire, and most shockingly of all.... APPEAR TO BE SELLING HOUSES!!! Lol. Seriously, they’re actually doing walk through, brokers opens, discussing staging, and doing things real agents do. 
 

And as long as I live I will never understand why somebody selling their house would give a damn about how it was staged to sell or show up to the brokers open. You don’t live there anymore! It doesn’t need to look like you live there to get sold!

The vibe is definitely different. Which makes sense being Hamptons, NY vs. the LA vibe of the Selling Sunset. I love that they show the details in closer detail. The walk throughs make a difference! I love that they show the staging as well. on SS I was excited because that's Amanza's former career but they didn't really show us much, other than Heather choosing the artwork.

One downside of this filming style is it seems less forgiving, on the skin, etc.

edit: On the 2nd episode - "She is the vessel for my child. She is the ship delivering my child" And he thinks carrying him for 9 months is nothing because "he carried him in my balls for 30 years"??!!- I no longer think he's a teddy bear. Fuck him.

Edited August 29, 2020 by shoetingstar

[GaT]

11 hours ago, eelpout said:

finished one episode and don't think I'll watch anymore and not for the reasons raised in the Decider article below.

I'm obviously living in a different universe than some others. 😕

‘Million Dollar Beach House’ Slammed for “Racist Vibes” by Netflix Viewers

 

 

10 hours ago, Mountainair said:

Yea- no. I didn’t get racist vibes at all from this show. Noel himself clearly misrepresented himself and how to pronounce his own name. It’s an easy name to question the pronunciation of. Selling Sunset didn’t even have a single person of color on the show. Maybe just a blanket statement of all real estate shows are racist would fit here. I didn’t get any different vibe here than from any of the Million Dollar Listing shows either. 

I'm confused by people saying they wanted "Selling Sunset" vibes, but instead, this show was racist. Unless I've completely forgotten them, there aren't any POC on "Selling Sunset" at all. If anything, it seems like "Selling Sunset" would be considered the racist show, not "Million Dollar Beach House". That said, I've watched a few episodes, & I don't like any of these people, they all seem like assholes, & did you know one of the guys (I can't remember anybody's name) is going to have a baby soon & needs the money?

[Stan39]

5 hours ago, GaT said:

 

I'm confused by people saying they wanted "Selling Sunset" vibes, but instead, this show was racist. Unless I've completely forgotten them, there aren't any POC on "Selling Sunset" at all. If anything, it seems like "Selling Sunset" would be considered the racist show, not "Million Dollar Beach House". That said, I've watched a few episodes, & I don't like any of these people, they all seem like assholes, & did you know one of the guys (I can't remember anybody's name) is going to have a baby soon & needs the money?

How big a deal is Decider? I really don’t know. Is this really representative of people thinking this show is “racist af” or is it just a shock value article with a few examples of extreme tweets to try and get people to click on it? There aren’t a lot of examples given other than Noel’s name (which is easily explained) and calling him “a polished gentleman” which was bad, but was one moment in one episode of a six part series. I’m not saying the show is NOT racist, I’d just like to hear the other examples people picked up on that I didn’t notice. And to be honest, I thought Noel was being called “a polite gentleman” because they didn’t want to call him a pretentious ass. But I could be wrong on this. 

[hula-la]

4 hours ago, Stan39 said:

How big a deal is Decider? I really don’t know. Is this really representative of people thinking this show is “racist af” or is it just a shock value article with a few examples of extreme tweets to try and get people to click on it? There aren’t a lot of examples given other than Noel’s name (which is easily explained) and calling him “a polished gentleman” which was bad, but was one moment in one episode of a six part series. I’m not saying the show is NOT racist, I’d just like to hear the other examples people picked up on that I didn’t notice. And to be honest, I thought Noel was being called “a polite gentleman” because they didn’t want to call him a pretentious ass. But I could be wrong on this. 

Would Newsweek suffice? https://www.newsweek.com/million-dollar-beach-house-makes-viewers-cringe-controversial-first-episode-

A search “million dollar beachouse racist” on Twitter or using a search engine will lead to lots of articles and examples. 

[Stan39]

2 minutes ago, hula-la said:

Would Newsweek suffice? https://www.newsweek.com/million-dollar-beach-house-makes-viewers-cringe-controversial-first-episode-

A search “million dollar beachouse racist” on Twitter or using a search engine will lead to lots of articles and examples. 

Ok thanks. I didn’t know. 

[TrixieTrue]

21 hours ago, Mountainair said:

Yea- no. I didn’t get racist vibes at all from this show. Noel himself clearly misrepresented himself and how to pronounce his own name. It’s an easy name to question the pronunciation of.  

I don't think it's a misrepresentation. A lot of people decide to change their name, go by a middle name, or use a different pronunciation. He chose to go with Noel, like Noel Coward, rather than Noel, as in The First Noel. I do agree that it's an easy name to question the pronunciation of.    

[Door County Cherry]

16 hours ago, GaT said:

Unless I've completely forgotten them, there aren't any POC on "Selling Sunset" at all. If anything, it seems like "Selling Sunset" would be considered the racist show, not "Million Dollar Beach House".

Amanza's biracial.  Her dad's African-American. 

I can't fully speak as to why it was cringey for other people but it did make me squirmy that the one woman and the one POC were cast as the "outsiders" in the brokerage and had the "drama" while the three white men already had a bond.  And I do think that outsider dynamic is real because Michael, JB and James are at one brokerage location in the Hamptons, Peggy's at another and Noel is at another.  

But in a hilarious "how fake is this show" moment, it looks like Noel is actually the head of Private Client at Nest Seekers and it sounds like he does exactly what Justin, Peggy's "client" does...and has done it for a while if the bio on the page is to be believed.  

So his naivete about having someone pre-tour the house was basically an act.

5 hours ago, TrixieTrue said:

I do agree that it's an easy name to question the pronunciation of.    

Isn't Nole/Jole the pretty standard pronunciation in the US?  I guess I've never looked at that name and wondered how it was pronounced.  I would have been surprised to hear it was pronounced No-el. 

[GaT]

6 hours ago, Door County Cherry said:

Amanza's biracial.  Her dad's African-American. 

I thought she might be, but still, there doesn't seem to be any more racial diversity on "Selling Sunset" than this show, so I still don't understand what the problem is.

I just started watching episode 4, & what is the problem with these owners? The couple that just wanted all the redecorating undone was just ridiculous.  One thing this show has in common with "Selling Sunset" is the idiot realtors having big arguments in front of clients, also, the vocal fry, badly bleached blonde, realtor with the bad nose job dressing like she's going to a club instead of dressing like a realtor.

One thing I'm curious about. All these gorgeous houses have terrible lawns. They're all half dead, was there a drought when this was filmed? Are there water restrictions? Are the lawns always like that?

[Door County Cherry]

39 minutes ago, GaT said:

I thought she might be, but still, there doesn't seem to be any more racial diversity on "Selling Sunset" than this show, so I still don't understand what the problem is.

The number of POC wasn't the the reason people felt this show felt racist. 

39 minutes ago, GaT said:

One thing I'm curious about. All these gorgeous houses have terrible lawns. They're all half dead, was there a drought when this was filmed? Are there water restrictions? Are the lawns always like that?

I wonder when it was filmed.  Season can affect it.  Also, islands. 

[TrixieTrue]

I'm surprised that summer is their biggest selling season. I would think that winter and spring would be, since people would want to already have a summer home when summer arrives. 

I wanted to see more of Old Towne Lane. It reminded me a little of Grayson Manor. (Any other Revenge watchers?)  

Peggy's behavior was fine at the beginning, but terrible at the party/showing. If that's typical for her, I wouldn't want her at any of my business events either. The other realtor (the one is the black minidress and super high heels) looked confused and upset. While I thought her look was too clubby for the showing, her reaction seemed realistic to me. And maybe Noel didn't want Peggy there because she pulls this kind of BS. 

[topanga]

On 8/28/2020 at 5:28 PM, Door County Cherry said:

 I didn't necessarily see everything as racist but there were definitely moments that made me cringe.  Michael, for one, rubbed me the wrong way.  Calling Noel "No-el" kind of makes sense if he knew that name first before this random, very brief, pronunciation switch.  Not that it matters why he changed his name. No-el isn't typical and I can't imagine how many times he and his brother have had to correct the pronunciation of their names.  I can see how a real estate agent might feel it to be just easier to use the most common pronunciation so they're not constantly correcting potential clients. 

But referring to Noel as a "very polished gentleman" came off as a microaggression.  It just seemed to be an odd observation given that they're all working in  real estate which is a profession where polish is considered an asset.  Look at Michael's best friend, JB, who is super polished yet that's not how Michael talks about him.  Noel wants to sell multi million dollar homes, of course he's fuckin' polished. 

And Michael can shut it with his criticism of Noel's behavior with Peggy's client when he shows a house half undressed and refers to a toilet as a "shitter" while doing a walk through. 

But that, surprisingly, wasn't my biggest issue with the show.  My issues were also detailed on Decider; albeit in the Stream It Or Skip It article.  The house porn was beautiful but I do think Selling Sunset feels more "real" when it comes to real estate.  All of the owners showing up makes me think that being able to appear on camera was a trade off for letting the show use their houses.  All of them felt awkward selling real estate except Peggy and Jimmy, who are both pretty successful, but who we rarely see selling.  

 

I liked the show overall, mainly because of the house porn—it made me drool, and I realized that I absolutely chose the wrong career field (or husband LOL) not to be able to afford a second home like one of these.

The producers clearly set up Noel to be the villain. From the very first episode, me there was an Us vs. Them mentality on the team. At least in the editing. And when Peggy came along to that fake showing when Noel pretended not to know anything about the home, she was clearly trying to sabotage the showing. 

Is it racist? Not explicitly, but almost every reality show I watch that happens to have a POC will set them up to be the villain. I’m very tired of seeing this

And so what if he wants to pronounce himself “Nole?” J.B. calls himself by his fucking initials, which I hate. You’re a grown-ass man—use an actual name professionally.

Jimmy is my favorite agent. He’s the calmest and least dramatic, but when he’s showing a home or talking about a home with a developer, he seems the most knowledgeable about the properties. 

Lastly, I hate that women who are emotional and passionate are automatically called crazy (you didn’t, I’m just listing all of my comments here). I don’t like Peggy, but she’s no crazier than coke-head Michael, IMO.  In all fairness, he only admitted to doing cocaine during his modeling days, but sometimes I wonder.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 30, 2020 by topanga

[merylinkid]

7 hours ago, Door County Cherry said:

The number of POC wasn't the the reason people felt this show felt racist. 

I wonder when it was filmed.  Season can affect it.  Also, islands. 

THIS.   It's not "oh this show has POC it can't be racist, when the other show has none."    It's how the POC are portrayed.   As @topanga said when the POC is cast as the villain.   When the POC is called "polished."   Or, although I haven't heard it on this show the POC are described as "well spoken and articulate."    No one ever says those words about white folks.   It's basically saying "can you believe the POC can speak so well?"  Which is racist AF.

[conquistador]

On 8/29/2020 at 6:34 AM, shoetingstar said:

On the 2nd episode - "She is the vessel for my child. She is the ship delivering my child" And he thinks carrying him for 9 months is nothing because "he carried him in my balls for 30 years"??!!- I no longer think he's a teddy bear. Fuck him.

This is the beside the point, but there is a sperm cell turnover. The sperms don’t just hang around for decades (unlike the female sex cells). Also, he wouldn’t have started producing sperms until puberty anyhow (making his figure off by at least a decade).

*edit* OK, I realized something. Since there is new production of male sex cells but none of female sex cells, but they both contain equal amounts of genetical information... That actually means Michael’s partner carried their son in her body ”for thirty years” AND through pregnancy. 

You are not impressing me with this argument, Michael!

 

18 hours ago, TrixieTrue said:

I'm surprised that summer is their biggest selling season. I would think that winter and spring would be, since people would want to already have a summer home when summer arrives.

I got the impression that these houses are not the owners’ primary residencies, but more like resort houses. If so I imagine that the whole community comes alive in the summer, meaning you have that much more people around to visit the houses (especially considering the emphasis on partying), You may also want to experience the houses in their proper season, to really get a sense of what you’re buying.

Edited August 31, 2020 by conquistador

[zenithwit]

Something just felt off about this show.  Was production cut short?  It felt like there should have been 8 episodes vs 6.  It was weird seeing new properties introduced in the second half of the last episode without any resolution.  And the ending was just kinda blah. 

Plus there were so many storylines that were not resolved at all.  I guess having a couple loose ends makes sense if you are setting up for a second season but this show had wayyy too many of them.   Did Noel/Joel start their rival real estate/ping pong training company?  Did Peggy get the deal with developer dude?  Is JB still riding Jimmy's coattails? Who is the redhead in the office and what is her opinion of her coworkers?  Not sure why they couldn't have resolved at least one or two of these.

On 8/26/2020 at 2:43 PM, Mountainair said:

I definitely like this better than Selling Sunset. Actual properties! Some drama. I’m on episode 3 and wish the episodes were a bit longer but I am loving the real estate so far! 

I think I prefer Selling Sunset but that might be because of the stunning views from their Hollywood Hills homes.  I was hoping for more picturesque landscape views from the homes on this show but I guess the Hamptons are all about entertaining guests on the weekends so it makes sense that the homes themselves would be more prominent.

On 8/28/2020 at 11:34 PM, shoetingstar said:

edit: On the 2nd episode - "She is the vessel for my child. She is the ship delivering my child" And he thinks carrying him for 9 months is nothing because "he carried him in my balls for 30 years"??!!- I no longer think he's a teddy bear. Fuck him.

What really annoyed me was him going to work three days after his son was born and casually brushing it off by saying that he "can change diapers when he got home."  As someone who recently had a baby, I can guarantee that his wife was exhausted and could use all the help she can get that day.  Hopefully she had someone else to help out.

On 8/27/2020 at 11:43 PM, Marley said:

Jimmy looks like a certain actor but I just can’t figure out which one.

Michael Cera perhaps?

Edited August 31, 2020 by zenithwit

[TrixieTrue]

10 hours ago, zenithwit said:

Something just felt off about this show.  Was production cut short?  It felt like there should have been 8 episodes vs 6.  It was weird seeing new properties introduced in the second half of the last episode without any resolution.  And the ending was just kinda blah. 

 

 ... 

Michael Cera perhaps?

Yes, the ending made it seem like Peggy had been the hero of the story all along. And she was going off on her own, to her own spinoff. Which would be boring af. 

Yes, he's a Michael Cera lookalike. I didn't understand why the developer (Yale something) was so annoyed by him excusing himself a few times. Jimmy mentioned (once, I think) that his wide was pregnant. It could have been a call from her. It might have also been other business, or his parents, or whatever. Maybe it was happening more than the editing showed and that's why Yale was bothered by it. But does he expect these realtors to fawn all over him and ignore everything else? JB was there, too, so maybe Jimmy felt it was ok to step away.   

 

[Guest]

On 8/29/2020 at 10:09 PM, GaT said:

I thought she might be, but still, there doesn't seem to be any more racial diversity on "Selling Sunset" than this show, so I still don't understand what the problem is.

Including representation doesn’t prevent something from being racist. A token minority is often more racist than having no minorities. Particularly when the minority simply plays into existing negative stereotypes and tropes. 

On 8/29/2020 at 3:56 PM, Door County Cherry said:

Isn't Nole/Jole the pretty standard pronunciation in the US?  I guess I've never looked at that name and wondered how it was pronounced.  I would have been surprised to hear it was pronounced No-el. 

It is. I think most people associate the No-el pronunciation with the feminine version, Noelle. Which added another layer that made me uncomfortable with the insistence on how his name should be pronounced. 

[GaT]

Sine Noel's twin is named Joel, I'm pretty sure their parents meant the names to rhyme. So if Joel's name is pronounced Jo-el, then Noel's name is probably No-el.

[Guest]

29 minutes ago, GaT said:

Sine Noel's twin is named Joel, I'm pretty sure their parents meant the names to rhyme. So if Joel's name is pronounced Jo-el, then Noel's name is probably No-el.

Probably, but that has nothing to do with Noel’s co-workers challenging the way he pronounces his own name before they knew how Joel pronounced is name. Micheal was doing the No-el/Nole thing from the first time he talking about Noel. 

[JBC344]

This show is no where near as "entertaining/good" as Selling Sunset. The one thing it has going for it is the attention to the real estate. 

While the house pornography was good, the entire cast was mind numbingly boring. 

Michael is a massive tool, who I can only take in small doses.

Noel/No-el/Noelle is way to stuck up.

Peggy is an uninteresting drama queen.

JB is a spoiled rich kid, who is the most tolerable.

Jimmy seems to be the successful leader who can actually pull listings. Hard to judge, he was barely on the show.

I can't believe the main conflict was a stupid fight that resulted from a showing. Talk about boring. 

Things I liked: Noel's attitude of Peggy's victim mentality. Peggy's tenacity with going after the developer who Jimmy dropped the ball with. JB calling out best friend Mike about his behavior at the co-listing with Sara. 

Observations: When Noel overpriced the modern house at 35 million my first thought was, "Omg is he the Davina of this show". So glad it was revealed the listing was off the market by the end. I appreciated Mike and JB sort of sticking up for Noel on the company yacht and calling out Peggy for her own behavior. 

Season was too short. Ok for what it was but they definitely need an upgrade on making the show more interesting. 

 

[sugarbaker design]

12 minutes ago, Dani said:

Probably, but that has nothing to do with Noel’s co-workers challenging the way he pronounces his own name before they knew how Joel pronounced is name. Micheal was doing the No-el/Nole thing from the first time he talking about Noel. 

Right, regardless how it's spelled or his parent's intention, Noel let them know how to pronounce his name, it is Noel's decision how his name is pronounced.  Michael, the ex-model and present asshole, mispronounced it on purpose in a childish attempt to belittle Noel.

[Door County Cherry]

4 hours ago, Dani said:

It is. I think most people associate the No-el pronunciation with the feminine version, Noelle. Which added another layer that made me uncomfortable with the insistence on how his name should be pronounced. 

I did too.  At least initially.  But once it was revealed that Noel had only recently changed his pronunciation, I took that off of my "things that bothered me about Michael list."  One, my list didn't need more reasons.  And two, the one time I remember him referring to him as "No-el" (or Noelle) was during a talking head.  So Michael could have either known Noel before he changed his pronunciation or the talking head could have been filmed after everyone learned about how he originally pronounced it and he had decided to switch back.  In that case, the confusion is understandable.  

Although, it still shouldn't have been that big of a deal.  

1 hour ago, GaT said:

Sine Noel's twin is named Joel, I'm pretty sure their parents meant the names to rhyme. So if Joel's name is pronounced Jo-el, then Noel's name is probably No-el.

Right.  But the "Joelle" pronunciation is also non-traditional.  Joel and Noel already rhyme (standard pronunciations I've heard are Jole/Nole or maybe even with a slight 'w' sound in there Jowel/Nowel with a hard O.) The pronunciations of Joelle and Noelle are  more traditionally feminine sounding names. 

[Guest]

25 minutes ago, Door County Cherry said:

I did too.  At least initially.  But once it was revealed that Noel had only recently changed his pronunciation, I took that off of my "things that bothered me about Michael list."  One, my list didn't need more reasons.  And two, the one time I remember him referring to him as "No-el" (or Noelle) was during a talking head.  So Michael could have either known Noel before he changed his pronunciation or the talking head could have been filmed after everyone learned about how he originally pronounced it and he had decided to switch back.  In that case, the confusion is understandable.  

It actually didn’t bother me much initially but when I re-watched it I realized it wasn’t just a mistake. He said, “Was Noel here today? Noelle, whatever the fuck? You guys meet him yet? He’s very polished right? Polished gentleman.” Later Noel revealed that he changed the pronunciation a year and a half earlier. Rewatching the whole thing it came off as extremely disrespectful. 

Edited August 31, 2020 by Guest

[readheaded]

I was surprised at just how mediocre they all are.  

[MicheleinPhilly]

I watched 2 episodes and that was more than enough. The house porn was great but everything was just so painfully fake. And I say this as a fan of Million Dollar Listing which I know scripts/amps up the DRAMA but at least I believe that those guys are actually brokers.

These folks all struck me as people that showed up to an open casting call. With the exception of the first guy that appeared in a TH (who said he made $2.5 million in commissions the prior year), have any of them actually closed a deal?

I'm out. 

[Vivigirl10]

I'm only two episodes in but from the sounds of it, I'll be able to plow through this pretty quickly.  

The greatest thing about this show so far was the Michael modeling reveal and footage of Joel being some sort of ping pong protege!  Couldn't love that enough.  I can't decide which came more out of left field - ha!

When Noel was showing the house to Patty and the client representative, my head was spinning.  First I thought, Patty is such a jerk!  Then, wait, Noel is such a jerk!  Oh no, it's really the client who's such a jerk!  And then I came to the realization.....they were all complete jerks in their own very special way.  The guys were participating in their own game of chicken.....who can keep their sunglasses on the longest, edition.  

When Patty did the walk-through with Noel and the homeowner, I have to say I was firmly on Noel's side.  It was his showing and she wouldn't shut up.  Not only was it rude to Noel, if I were a homeowner, that would be the kiss of death for me.  She sounded like a 15 year old.

 

[readheaded]

6 hours ago, MicheleinPhilly said:

I watched 2 episodes and that was more than enough. The house porn was great but everything was just so painfully fake. And I say this as a fan of Million Dollar Listing which I know scripts/amps up the DRAMA but at least I believe that those guys are actually brokers.

These folks all struck me as people that showed up to an open casting call. With the exception of the first guy that appeared in a TH (who said he made $2.5 million in commissions the prior year), have any of them actually closed a deal?

I'm out. 

I don't disagree with you about the show, but if Nest Seekers' website is to be believed, they're real agents.  https://www.nestseekers.com/Agents/hamptons

[MicheleinPhilly]

1 minute ago, readheaded said:

I don't disagree with you about the show, but if Nest Seekers' website is to be believed, they're real agents.  https://www.nestseekers.com/Agents/hamptons

Interesting. Looking at their profiles, Noel, Mike, and J.B. seem to be more active doing rentals than actual sales. But when I saw Nest Seekers at the top of the first episode I was expecting Ryan Serhant level skills. These folks seem VERY green.

Oh well. 

[readheaded]

Just now, MicheleinPhilly said:

Interesting. Looking at their profiles, Noel, Mike, and J.B. seem to be more active doing rentals than actual sales. But when I saw Nest Seekers at the top of the first episode I was expecting Ryan Serhant level skills. These folks seem VERY green.

Oh well. 

Agreed; they're positively mediocre.  

[luckyroll3]

On 8/28/2020 at 3:36 PM, eelpout said:

‘Million Dollar Beach House’ Slammed for “Racist Vibes” by Netflix Viewers

 

On 8/28/2020 at 4:34 PM, hula-la said:

While I love the house porn, the microagression were really too much (but sadly, totally familiar to me and many others). You know what show I miss?

Less than 5 minutes in, I was already side-eying this show after that dude's talking head about Noel. I finished watching the episode, but I won't be continuing with the show. I get enough microagressions and racism on a daily basis; I don't need it with my house porn too. 

[nichelle]

I've watched too much of this show. I'm the type that usually finishes a series once I start, with the hope that things will turn around. But I think it's time for me to throw in the towel. A few things...

• I can remember them saying that one of the homes closed. They didn't show the process, but just mentioned a particular home. It was around 9M.
• I didn't like Peggy from the beginning. Noel had his issues and I thought he came across as someone who avoids confrontation. He still has some lessons to learn. But I was glad to see him openly apologize to Peggy for what went wrong in the showing. I think the showing was set up as a bit of a 'gotcha' but whatever. He 'got got'. Noel clearly has some things to learn and this was an opportunity to head in that direction. It could be editing but Peggy (who later said 'if you have an issue come to me'), was shown multiple times slamming Noel to others. Who didn't know she had a problem with him? She told everyone. And her flipping out at that open house was inexcusable.
• Hey! I have a baby on the way? Did you know that? A BABY!

Oh and I noticed the microaggressions as well. I deal with them too often not to notice.

Edited September 5, 2020 by nichelle

[NYGirl]

Just binge watched the whole season this afternoon.  I'm so disappointed in was only 6 episodes.  I though 10 for sure was the usual Netflix way.  I am a fan of any real estate show:  MDL, Selling Sunset, and and all HG Network shows.  I am taking my real estate license test at the end of this month, having worked for a real estate attorney and title company the last 20 years.

I didn't get racist vibes from it.  I was glad to see a POC as I never see that on any of the other shows, except for Amanza.  

I watch mostly for the real estate porn and this show had a lot of it.  I didn't like Peggy from the minute she went to see the owner with Noel. She didn't shut up the whole time and I kind of got the impression she was going for the listing the way she was talking.  And then the drama..my goodness.  I was so embarrassed for the agents during that open house with the way she was acting.  Sara was trying to apologize and Peggy just kept shutting her down.  I also though it was highly unprofessional to go after Jimmy and JB's client Yale like that.

Michael is just plain annoying.  He's got to be on amphetamines or something.

JB..nice guy, rich parents but the voice of reason for the show.

I'm assuming Jimmy is the broker of this office but I'm not sure.  It's good that he shares his listings with the agents.  That's what a broker does.

I liked Noel and Joel but I think Noel doesn't like confrontation.  I felt sorry for him.  She was definitely steamrolling him.  I am woman hear me roar.

[biakbiak]

Mike and Noel were on The Bachelor Party podcast this week. 

[j4lambert]

On 1/6/2022 at 1:30 PM, j4lambert said:

The Wikipedia article for Selling Sunset only focuses on the individual aspects of the show and not its spin-off series Selling Tampa. After the premiere of Selling Tampa, Discovery+ announced that it would air a sequel to the cancelled Netflix series Million Dollar Beach House. This sequel is called Selling the Hamptons, and is expected to be the first series in the Selling Sunset franchise to not air on Netflix; Selling Tampa and Selling the OC were ordered by Netflix as direct spin-offs before the series was announced. The premiere date for Selling the Hamptons is January 20, 2022. 
 

A Wikipedia article on the entire Selling Sunset franchise needs to be produced, as was done with the Real Housewives franchise. This would include a list of international versions of Selling Sunset and associated spin-offs. 

https://behindthehedges.com/selling-the-hamptons-set-to-premiere-january-20/#.YbyE5hfW_eo.twitter