2020 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp

[SmpIsimon]

6 minutes ago, ClosetDCCFan said:

“At will” employment generally means you can be terminated for really any reason your employer wants ... EXCEPT AN ILLEGAL REASON.  Under federal law, things like race, gender, sexual orientation, and retaliation for exercising a legal right are illegal grounds to terminate someone.  

Agree with all of this. Plus, it doesn’t really matter whether she’d win or not, it’s how bad the publicity would be if she even filed a lawsuit. And it would be BAD! 

[BulaKitty]

This was put on one of the facebook groups as confirmed. Any insiders here want to confirm it?

[BlueSilver]

2 hours ago, TeacherWoman said:

Just googled him.  Dayum!  He could make you forget you signed a contract about anything.

Right? I'm old enough to be that boy's mama, but...whooo *fans self*

[TUOwl84]

I was away from the board for most of the day today.  I finally caught up.  I am so proud of Hannah!!!  Her, Bridget, and Jalyn have been my top 3 DCC since they made the team in 2018.   

I am beginning to think there will not be a new season of DCCMTT.  I just can't imagine them doing so with this being blown up in their faces.  And if they do air this season on CMT, who wants to place bets that they don't even show Hannah or Brennan being cut?  They are going to make it non-existent like they did when Erica Wilkins got cut a few years back, when they just acted like nothing happened and then made KaShara group leader in her place.  But we all knew better!

[Lunacat]

Which rookie has character concerns (Marissa?) and what are they?

[TUOwl84]

1 minute ago, Lunacat said:

Which rookie has character concerns (Marissa?) and what are they?

Yes, that is what someone mentioned on here, but as far as I know they did not provide more information on what they are.

[SmpIsimon]

8 minutes ago, Lunacat said:

Which rookie has character concerns (Marissa?) and what are they?

Which rookie? Take your pick. 😆

But Marissa and Alora are the ones I’ve heard are least liked by the other girls. 

Edited August 21, 2020 by SmpIsimon

[Lunacat]

7 minutes ago, TUOwl84 said:

Yes, that is what someone mentioned on here, but as far as I know they did not provide more information on what they are.

Got it, am sure we’ll hear about it soon enough. It always comes out...

 

 

[RedDelicious]

42 minutes ago, ClosetDCCFan said:

“At will” employment generally means you can be terminated for really any reason your employer wants ... EXCEPT AN ILLEGAL REASON.  Under federal law, things like race, gender, sexual orientation, and retaliation for exercising a legal right are illegal grounds to terminate someone.  

Illegal reason, sure. But Training Camp for a cheerleading squad is subjective, so really they can cook up anything they want. 

[Lunacat]

What was the timing of SG being announced? I can see an issue if Hannah made SG and then they turned around and cut her.

Gosh, I have so many questions about how this went down. Was camp shut down and they ended up mass cutting people... or were they at 39 and then only cut vets? (I think Meredith was cut prior to this week, yaaa? That was my best Kitty voice btw).  Did they actually cut the vets OR did they just announce the team (similar to how it would be done at finals)? Was Kitty around this year?

[TUOwl84]

I haven't seen Tess comment on Hannah or Brennan's posts.  I haven't seen Amy L, one of the last years leaders and last years point, well at least for half of it, comment on their posts either.  But all that comes to mind right now are COWARDS!!!  I can't believe these girls were Leaders when they can't support their fellow SISTERS.  Even a "I love you" would suffice.  

[Isolabella]

1 minute ago, TUOwl84 said:

I haven't seen Tess comment on Hannah or Brennan's posts.  I haven't seen Amy L, one of the last years leaders and last years point, well at least for half of it, comment on their posts either.  But all that comes to mind right now are COWARDS!!!  I can't believe these girls were Leaders when they can't support their fellow SISTERS.  Even a "I love you" would suffice.  

Exactly! Post SOMETHING. Leaders, my ass.

[Stee]

Brianna commented on both Brennan and Hannah’s Instagram. She don’t give a f***. Love her for that!!!

[DCCFan2021]

3 minutes ago, TUOwl84 said:

I haven't seen Tess comment on Hannah or Brennan's posts.  I haven't seen Amy L, one of the last years leaders and last years point, well at least for half of it, comment on their posts either.  But all that comes to mind right now are COWARDS!!!  I can't believe these girls were Leaders when they can't support their fellow SISTERS.  Even a "I love you" would suffice.  

Thank you! If you're really worried about pissing off TPTB, then fine, don't acknowledge the circumstances of the cut or the content of their message, but at least write something about loving them and missing having them as a teammate!

[TUOwl84]

Also, I forgot to mention.... remember at the beginning of training camp, there was a picture shown of the TCC wearing masks and Kelli and Judy were not!?  That should of been the first flag of what was really going on in that training camp.  👀   

[scorpio1031]

8 minutes ago, TUOwl84 said:

I haven't seen Tess comment on Hannah or Brennan's posts.  I haven't seen Amy L, one of the last years leaders and last years point, well at least for half of it, comment on their posts either.  But all that comes to mind right now are COWARDS!!!  I can't believe these girls were Leaders when they can't support their fellow SISTERS.  Even a "I love you" would suffice.  

Amy commented on IG that her husband was sending her out of town this week even though it was his birthday to be with family during this time.  She just may be out of the social media loop and have other priorities she is concerned about.

[Holly85]

Y’all I just noticed something more of the vets commented on Brennan’s then they did Hannah’s 

[scorpio1031]

8 minutes ago, DCCFan2021 said:

Thank you! If you're really worried about pissing off TPTB, then fine, don't acknowledge the circumstances of the cut or the content of their message, but at least write something about loving them and missing having them as a teammate!

They may reach out privately.

[TUOwl84]

1 minute ago, scorpio1031 said:

Amy commented on IG that her husband was sending her out of town this week even though it was his birthday to be with family during this time.  She just may be out of the social media loop and have other priorities she is concerned about.

I highly doubt Amy doesn't know what is going on.  She is besties with KaShara.  I am sure KaShara gave her the tea even if it was through texts instead of social media.  But I am sure she is on social media not providing support to her fellow sisters.

3 minutes ago, Holly85 said:

Y’all I just noticed something more of the vets commented on Brennan’s then they did Hannah’s 

I noticed this as well.  But Tess is a leader and Amy is a former leader of Hannah and Brennan.

[scorpio1031]

1 minute ago, TUOwl84 said:

I highly doubt Amy doesn't know what is going on.  She is besties with KaShara.  I am sure KaShara gave her the tea even if it was through texts instead of social media.  But I am sure she is on social media not providing support to her fellow sisters.

She posted on Brennans yesterday

[Holly85]

1 minute ago, TUOwl84 said:

I highly doubt Amy doesn't know what is going on.  She is besties with KaShara.  I am sure KaShara gave her the tea even if it was through texts instead of social media.  But I am sure she is on social media not providing support to her fellow sisters.

I noticed this as well.  But Tess is a leader and Amy is a former leader of Hannah and Brennan.

Amy commented on Brennan’s 

[TUOwl84]

1 minute ago, Holly85 said:

Amy commented on Brennan’s 

Ok. I take it back then. 🤪  But I don't take it back on Tess!

[Holly85]

Just now, TUOwl84 said:

Ok. I take it back then. 🤪  But I don't take it back on Tess!

Tess didn’t comment on Either of them !!! Some leader she is she drank the dcc koolaide big time 

[TUOwl84]

Shelly's been quiet. 👀  Does anyone know if she still works for the organization?  I guess if she is still employed with them she couldn't show some support either. 

[TUOwl84]

Not sure if this has already been shared:

https://www.fox4news.com/sports/dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-not-allowed-on-field-for-2020-season-but-will-be-in-stadium-during-games

[bunny]

2 hours ago, Lona said:

Lol. 
 

Chandi and Erin getting SG. 
New rookie class apparently confirmed. 
DCC ups diversity. 
 

And yet we’re not talking about any of that. Didn’t have to be this way. Didn’t have to be this way at all ...

Them upping the diversity in the year that the team may not even get to perform is just what I’d expect from the DCC 😂 wonder how many of those girls will be gone next year to make room for more white blondes! 

4 hours ago, An Offt said:

Hey guys!                                                                                                                                                        Long time lurker here who rarely posts, but I've been around since TWOP and I'd like to lay out a theory about the DCC and MTT and see if it makes sense to anybody else.                                                                                                                            What if the Cowboys have decided that, in the current climate (meaning everything from #BLM to #metoo to covid) that the DCC are no longer a viable branding tool?                                                                                                                        Or, on a smaller scale, maybe Bravo and/or the production company have made it clear that this season is either the last season of MTT, or worse, that the 2020 season will only be aired if there's "sufficient drama".  That's a standard reality show practice, some shows have to re-shoot entire seasons and even recast to get to get another season on the schedule.                                                                                                            So what if that's literally what we're seeing here?  Kelly and Charlotte deliberately blowing up the team to get the show on the air?                                                                                                  They don't need the best dancers, because the DCC won't even be on the field this year.  If the ladies will only be on the touch down decks, there's no worrying about pretty lines on the field or a kick line.  All they need is pretty-ish girls who can wear the uniform and gyrate.                                                                                            And if the DCC really is going to go away, they don't need to worry about future leadership (veterans) either.                                                                                                                                                  If somebody beat me to this, I apologize.  I'm still back on page 31, but I needed to see if this occurred to anyone else.       

I think this is a bit too complicated of a theory and that the simple answer is Kelli is a terrible manager. Her management style has pretty obviously cultivated a toxic behind-the-scenes environment for a long time, and even people who just watch the show and have no personal experience with the DCC can see that. Throw in something truly serious like a global pandemic and it all hits the fan. Kelli can’t call in a random country music star or preacher (don’t even get me started on that...) or slap a Belk dress on something to try and uphold this shiny veneer of perfection and sisterhood and world class bs. In a situation like this, you really have to know your stuff and take your job seriously and do your absolute best to create an environment where your employees feel they can trust you and that you’re making their safety your number one concern. Kelli simply does not have the capacity to do that as a manager. I don’t think she’d ever blow the team up on PURPOSE because she’s too concerned with cultivating a certain image and she can’t control the narrative when something big like this happens. But I do think that her lack of management skills (understatement of the year) and her prioritization of the show over the actual safety of the girls created a perfect storm for this disaster.

All the higher-ups are to blame, from Kelli, Judy and Charlotte to whoever is in charge of the show at CMT. Shame on all of them for creating this situation that not only compromised the health of the DCC and TCC, but show crew members, hotel workers and who knows how many others. 

[Lona]

Just now, bunny said:

Them upping the diversity in the year that the team may not even get to perform is just what I’d expect from the DCC 😂 wonder how many of those girls will be gone next year to make room for more white blondes! 

Oh gosh yeah! "We may have gotten rid of Hannah and Brennan guys, but look! Diversity! Aren't we so awesome! yay ya yay!"

I sincerely hope no one falls for that shtick.

And for a season during a pandemic, that's a really ... er ... big rookie class. Too big IMO.

[Amanda89]

Just after Hannah posted, Tess and Gina had both liked it.  I’m thinking Kelli has been banning group leaders from showing public support.

 

[BulaKitty]

14 minutes ago, Amanda89 said:

Just after Hannah posted, Tess and Gina had both liked it.  I’m thinking Kelli has been banning group leaders from showing public support.

 

Lexie liked and commented on both and Maddie commented on Brennan's posts though. Also Tess and Gina liked Brennan's post. I feel like it would have to be a blanket thing if they were telling them not too...

[Pinknblue]

I have read every single post with my jaw on the floor.

 I HAVE NO WORDS

[Duffer]

Some levity? Those arm over the head poses don’t translate well past their original purpose. I get it for a cameo or poster. But it’s awfully dated. 
make it stop! 

[dccfangirl]

2 hours ago, Pinknblue said:

I have read every single post with my jaw on the floor.

 I HAVE NO WORDS

"We need to find PinkBlue their words"

Ultimately I think Kelli is a bit of a bitch but she has run the organization amazingly and most of the cheerleaders really really respect her even if they don't like her. 

Really hope Hannah does a IG live or similar so we get the full tea  around safety and stopping production. 

I've been pondering Kat a lot and ultimately I'm NOT here for people cyberbullying her for sleeping with a player - if she's not then it's cruel and if she is then that's her prerogative. It doesn't make her a slut or a whore and the contract rule is old fashioned and sexist. You can't say "it's a sexist rule but they should have cut her instead of Brennan"... it's just not relevant. I wish Brennan hadn't been cut but I think that the rule around fraterinization is ridiculous. 

Edited August 21, 2020 by dccfangirl
Additional thought

[dccfangirl]

3 hours ago, TUOwl84 said:

Not sure if this has already been shared:

https://www.fox4news.com/sports/dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-not-allowed-on-field-for-2020-season-but-will-be-in-stadium-during-games

I feel for the girls - they hated the touchdown decks. Hopefully as there won't be so many fans it won't be as bad as it used to be, they used to get so much harassment and abuse from being so close to the fans and literally having to dance with their asses in drunk guys' faces. 

[scorpio1031]

24 minutes ago, dccfangirl said:

I feel for the girls - they hated the touchdown decks. Hopefully as there won't be so many fans it won't be as bad as it used to be, they used to get so much harassment and abuse from being so close to the fans and literally having to dance with their asses in drunk guys' faces. 

They still need a rail around them, and didn’t someone say they could be slippery?

[parrotfeathers]

6 hours ago, DCCFan2021 said:

but at least write something about loving them

Lacey at least did that.

[KickBallFall]

7 hours ago, go4luca said:

Nah.  They were boot buddies last year.  Not this time around.

I didn’t think they changed up returning boot buddies. Was everyone changed or did Princess just request a new boot buddy?

[vivianspoetry]

I’m failing to understand why people are getting upset with the current cheerleaders in all of this. The focus should be on the people in charge right now. Going after cheerleaders for their lack of Instagram posts or refusing to leave the team is not only unfair, it’s taking the focus off where it belongs. 

[Fwcowboysfan]

8 hours ago, TUOwl84 said:

I am beginning to think there will not be a new season of DCCMTT.  I just can't imagine them doing so with this being blown up in their faces.  And if they do air this season on CMT, who wants to place bets that they don't even show Hannah or Brennan being cut?  They are going to make it non-existent like they did when Erica Wilkins got cut a few years back, when they just acted like nothing happened and then made KaShara group leader in her place.  But we all knew better!

I was thinking about. I absolutely think Hannah and Brennan will get the Erica Wilkins treatment and just disappear. To try and spin it some other way will look ridiculous. It’s unfortunate the producers feel the need to create all this drama. The show would be interesting without all that. 

[dreamcatcher]

2 hours ago, dccfangirl said:

"We need to find PinkBlue their words"

Ultimately I think Kelli is a bit of a bitch but she has run the organization amazingly and most of the cheerleaders really really respect her even if they don't like her. 

Really hope Hannah does a IG live or similar so we get the full tea  around safety and stopping production. 

I've been pondering Kat a lot and ultimately I'm NOT here for people cyberbullying her for sleeping with a player - if she's not then it's cruel and if she is then that's her prerogative. It doesn't make her a slut or a whore and the contract rule is old fashioned and sexist. You can't say "it's a sexist rule but they should have cut her instead of Brennan"... it's just not relevant. I wish Brennan hadn't been cut but I think that the rule around fraterinization is ridiculous. 

I agree that Kat shouldn’t be slut shamed and honestly, I haven’t seen anyone calling her a slut? If anything, people have been commenting stuff like get it girl because the alleged player is hot. The only negative thing i’ve seen is that he has a gf, which you know if true, both of them are huge assholes.

Buut even though i disagree with this being a “rule”, if they’ve cut people before for the same reason and it’s clearly prohibited then yes keeping her is unfair. Lots of companies have a rule against this, but usually as long as they don’t work together/report to one and another and they can’t in any way influence each others’ job prospects, it’s fine. Still though, it’s generally expected to keep it low profile until it’s formal (engagement/marriage). So I understand if Kelli is generally ok with girls dating players as long as it doesn’t get out.

5 minutes ago, vivianspoetry said:

I’m failing to understand why people are getting upset with the current cheerleaders in all of this. The focus should be on the people in charge right now. Going after cheerleaders for their lack of Instagram posts or refusing to leave the team is not only unfair, it’s taking the focus off where it belongs. 

Of course the problem is with TPTB. However, given that most of the girls have taken a stance, I do believe that current leaders should do too, especially considering that the 3rd years may have wanted to come back, but Tess and Maddie for example are current 5th years and will probably retire anyway. They’re not endangering their spots like the rest do, for which I applaud them. They don’t even need to say anything against the dcc, just commenting something positive is enough to show where they stand without jeopardizing their positions.

1 minute ago, Fwcowboysfan said:

I was thinking about. I absolutely think Hannah and Brennan will get the Erica Wilkins treatment and just disappear. To try and spin it some other way will look ridiculous. It’s unfortunate the producers feel the need to create all this drama. The show would be interesting without all that. 

I don’t think that was their initial intention. They were most probably going to use them as storylines, but they might not be able to do so now. If they go ahead with the show, I’m thinking they will completely ignore them or make it look like they retired.

[mizzhyer]

19 hours ago, itsweird said:

I just asked my husband.  He rated Hannah a 7 and Victoria a 9.  Oooof.  Who did I marry?  😣

I asked my boyfriend to rate them...he reluctantly did so only after I promised to not get annoyed by it because he's going to be honest...LOL!!!  He also thinks it's very sexist to give girls ratings but he did so for me 🙂  I gave him a printout of the vets and just told him to put L for Looks and B for Body if they were different.  I was curious to see what a guy's perception is 🙂  Mind you...this is only based on aesthetics he is looking at on a printed piece of paper...he has never watched a single episode and I don't really discuss DCC with him a lot. 

So here is his take:

Brennan: 7 looks/ 10 body (he does know she's my fave); Hannah: 8 looks/ 10 body-booty (he's a butt guy); Alanna: 8; Amanda: 7 looks/ 8 body; Amber: 7 looks/ 8 body; Ashlee: 9 ; Briana: 9  (thinks she is one of the prettiest out of the vets); Caroline: 8;  Chandi: 8;  Cici: 7;  Daphne: 7;  Erin: 9 looks/10 body (she is his top pick aesthetically speaking); Gina 7 looks/6 body (too thin); Jalyn: 8; Kat: 8 (but what is up with her hair? I told him it was better now...but goes to show some guys do pay attention lol); Kelcey: 8; Kristin: 7 (and she looks stoned); Lexie: 7 (something is odd about her face); Lily: 7; Lisa: 6 (looks hateful); Maddie: 7; Madeline: 7; Meredith: 7; Rachel A: 8 looks/9 body; Rachel W.: 8; Savannah: 7;  Taylor J: 8; Tess: 7 (too thin); Victoria: 7.

His faves: Erin, Ashlee, Briana, Brennan, and Hannah (although...I think he said Brennan to appease me lol )

 

Edited August 21, 2020 by mizzhyer

[Sweetcaroline93]

Hello! I’ve read here for a few years but never posted. Anyway i was reading Hannah’s post do you guys think the person that “compromised” the bubble was Taylor? Since she was not in the bubble and came in later? Just a thought 😅

[Samantha121627]

Hey, I’m just popping in to see what’s happening with this years training camp. Can anyone tell me how we know Meredith and Lilly were cut? Was anyone else that we knew besides Brennan? Any other dramas anyone could give me a quick summary of? Thank you 🥰

[SmpIsimon]

Media has picked up on it -- share and share widely on social media: https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/118712192.html

[Lindsay Loo Hoo]

Well, I'm not thrilled with rookie McKenzies looks, she appears old.

Also thrilled for Darian as ive been a big fan of hers from even when she was an Arizona Cardinals cheerleader.

 

[SmpIsimon]

6 minutes ago, Lindsay Loo Hoo said:

Well, I'm not thrilled with rookie McKenzies looks, she appears old.

Also thrilled for Darian as ive been a big fan of hers from even when she was an Arizona Cardinals cheerleader.

 

Many insiders feel (and I agree) that they cut most of the pretty girls and kept the less attractive ones.  At least it'll help VK look more attractive by comparison.

[TUOwl84]

25 minutes ago, SmpIsimon said:

Media has picked up on it -- share and share widely on social media: https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/118712192.html

Isn’t livejournal not a real news outlet?

[SmpIsimon]

2 minutes ago, TUOwl84 said:

Isn’t livejournal not a real news outlet?

Probably not, hence I didn't say "news media," but it's a start! 🙂 

Hopefully people will share this on social and forward to news media.

[5678Pixie]

It is long over due for Kelli to take more WOC and I hope these 5 girls don't always wondered if they made the team because of their skin color this year because of what is going on in the world.  There will be 3 girls that will wonder if they made they team because they were good enough to make it or because Brennan, Hannah and Lily were cut at the end.  

[Itswhatisaid]

3 minutes ago, 5678Pixie said:

It is long over due for Kelli to take more WOC and I hope these 5 girls don't always wondered if they made the team because of their skin color this year because of what is going on in the world.  There will be 3 girls that will wonder if they made they team because they were good enough to make it or because Brennan, Hannah and Lily were cut at the end.  

It’s no coincidence that they took more WOC during a season like this, just like it’s no coincidence the Atlanta Falcons took 2 males for the first time this year. It’s all to say “we did it. It’s been done”. Next year, if things go back to normal, so will their picks.

[SmpIsimon]

4 minutes ago, 5678Pixie said:

It is long over due for Kelli to take more WOC and I hope these 5 girls don't always wondered if they made the team because of their skin color this year because of what is going on in the world.  There will be 3 girls that will wonder if they made they team because they were good enough to make it or because Brennan, Hannah and Lily were cut at the end.  

Yes, I'm sure there was greater pressure to diversify the squad this year, which I do support.  But I get the feeling they cut these four vets for BS (and potentially illegal) reasons just so they could make that happen.  Why not cut VK who can't dance or Lisa who is toxic or Marissa who just doesn't have the look?  I guess, in this instance, nice girls finish last.

1 minute ago, Itswhatisaid said:

It’s no coincidence that they took more WOC during a season like this, just like it’s no coincidence the Atlanta Falcons took 2 males for the first time this year. It’s all to say “we did it. It’s been done”. Next year, if things go back to normal, so will their picks.

Yep, to take more WOC in a year when girls aren't allowed on the field reveals a lot about how the DCC thinks of diversity.