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Pixiebomb

Pixiebomb

10 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

Oh, yeah? That’s hilarious. 

They’re talking about movie theater food in the kitchen. Nicole stops at theaters to buy popcorn to take home. Enzo stuffs his pockets with candy and sandwiches to sneak in. Tyler and Angela sneak in a bottle of wine and glasses. I’ve done that, but the wine is prepoured into screwtop water bottles because I have no class.

ReallyTyler?  I call BS.    Both theaters on HHI serve wine.  

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I'm of several different minds about this whole mess.  I do think it was fine for her game to target Bay/Day as a duo, which however it started out is the case now.  But I'm sorry -her going on about

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And just to piggyback on this beautifully stated post, there was a convo early in the feeds where Bayleigh lamented to Janelle how frustrating it is that the houseguests constantly lump her and Day to

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Lamb18

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David is up! He's busy cleaning up in the kitchen. Kevin is up, too. He is in the heart room, wearing 2 blankets!  A yellow striped blanket is draped around his shoulders and the gray Linus blanket is covering his lap. He is doing a Hamlet monologue, I'm guessing to his husband. Mysteriously there is a roll of toilet paper on one of the red heart cushions. It is out of reach for Kevin so he's not using it. My guess is someone has bad sniffles or was crying in the room.

Discussion of Kevin on BB chat room - funny I've seen several times people writing "whoa is me" when it's "woe is me." I always think of horses when I see that.

STARS now so the wakeup music must be playing.

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AryasMum

AryasMum

3 hours ago, Ananayel said:

They used to do this! I was talking with a coworker about how to stop this "first HOH forms a massive alliance and no one ever goes against it" nonsense. We came up with the following:

HGs are put into alliances by secret random draw (can't trust that to viewers or production.) No bigger than 4. No HOH for the first show, America picks the two noms (could be restricted to feedsters to motivate people to sign up and prevent editing shenanigans.) After that, normal HOH etc. The secret alliances continue through week 4, the one which kept the most of their members wins something. They dissolve, and now they either have to play for themselves, continue with the alliance they had, or try to make new ones with people they may have been working against thus far. This way, it prevents all the jocks and pretty people running everything from jump. People have to work with people they wouldn't have given a chance otherwise. Or they'll be very unhappy, and try to cause problems, which brings the drama. If anyone blabs about their secret alliance to anyone outside it, they are an automatic nom. Also, get rid of Grodner and Kass.

This would shake things up in a good way. And, as I always say, the vote count needs to be withheld.  So many times we’ve watched an almost awesome eviction, only to see these cowards back down because it can be figured out by the vote count.  Enough of this honor what the HOH wants. 

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peachmangosteen

peachmangosteen

1 hour ago, Alice Mudgarden said:

Kevin's biggest issue this season was how his need to be accepted by the "cool kids" clouded all other judgment. 

I’ve been thinking about this. Obviously, I hate it but honestly the fact that Kevin was so anti-Janelle/Kaysar is what allowed him to make jury. Unfortunately, this season the outsiders just couldn’t win HOH so they actually never had a shot even if they had banded together. Kevin could have been out pre-jury had he not kissed cool kid ass. I don’t think he was being strategic with it though. I believe it was as you said about his insecurities. All the outsiders just wanted so desperately to be liked by the cool kids. It happens all the time but it was just so egregious this season. 

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AryasMum

AryasMum

1 hour ago, Alice Mudgarden said:

Kevin's biggest issue this season was how his need to be accepted by the "cool kids" clouded all other judgment. You can see glimmers of the player from BB11 sometimes, moreso recently, with some of his reads and observations. I think once he let go of whatever was in his head about his popularity with the others, his game brain started to come back a little. The problem is that it happened too late.

Also, he'd probably be shocked to see that people like me were most excited to see him back over a lot of the others. I wish he could let go of the insecurities that are holding him back; it may surprise him just how liked and accepted he really is/could be.

This makes me wonder who do we think improved their legacy, and who damaged it. At this point, I can only see Cody improving. He certainly doesn’t seem like a mindless follower of his leader.

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Alice Mudgarden

Alice Mudgarden

1 minute ago, AryasMum said:

This makes me wonder who do we think improved their legacy, and who damaged it. At this point, I can only see Cody improving. He certainly doesn’t seem like a mindless follower of his leader.

Janelle and Kaysar improved it, which is insane because they were already so loved.

Outside of them... maybe Bayleigh?

I think a lot of the people in "the committee" (ugh) look worse, except for maybe Enzo.

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himela

himela

3 hours ago, Ananayel said:

They used to do this! I was talking with a coworker about how to stop this "first HOH forms a massive alliance and no one ever goes against it" nonsense. We came up with the following:

HGs are put into alliances by secret random draw (can't trust that to viewers or production.) No bigger than 4. No HOH for the first show, America picks the two noms (could be restricted to feedsters to motivate people to sign up and prevent editing shenanigans.) After that, normal HOH etc. The secret alliances continue through week 4, the one which kept the most of their members wins something. They dissolve, and now they either have to play for themselves, continue with the alliance they had, or try to make new ones with people they may have been working against thus far. This way, it prevents all the jocks and pretty people running everything from jump. People have to work with people they wouldn't have given a chance otherwise. Or they'll be very unhappy, and try to cause problems, which brings the drama. If anyone blabs about their secret alliance to anyone outside it, they are an automatic nom. Also, get rid of Grodner and Kass.

This could be really confusing for the casuals. Remember that on survivor we only have two tribes of eight people or three tribes of six people and most of the time I don't remember the names until half of the people are evicted. Viewers will have to remember the teams of four people and this will get really confusing.

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AryasMum

AryasMum

1 minute ago, Alice Mudgarden said:

Janelle and Kaysar improved it, which is insane because they were already so loved.

Outside of them... maybe Bayleigh?

I think a lot of the people in "the committee" (ugh) look worse, except for maybe Enzo.

Oh, I agree, all three are now more loved. But did any of the three improve what viewers see as game play?

Melina22

Melina22

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33 minutes ago, Alice Mudgarden said:

Outside of them... maybe Bayleigh?

I would certainly agree with Bayleigh. For some reason, I remembered her as a drama queen, and expected more of the same. Instead she was calm and reasonable, and got along well with everyone. Mostly. She definitely left on a high note this time. 

ETA I can't say she greatly improved my opinion of her gameplay. That probably stayed the same. 

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choclatechip45

choclatechip45

38 minutes ago, AryasMum said:

This makes me wonder who do we think improved their legacy, and who damaged it. At this point, I can only see Cody improving. He certainly doesn’t seem like a mindless follower of his leader.

Janelle and Kaysar definitley did.  Outside of them I think Day, Bay and Enzo did. I think Dani, Nicole Anthony, and Kevin damaged their legacy.

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choclatechip45

choclatechip45

3 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

They do.

They have a crockpot now?! That's awesome. I've never seen them use it though lol. 

Yea, they did. For a minute she was making her own orange juice but she's given up because she's too lazy to do it.

They normally get a chef in jury, but I don't know if they'll do that this year with covid.

I think they should give them a couple cookbooks. I don't understand why they don't. There's no outside info in a cookbook lol. 

They do though. They know something different is happening and that alone means they're on alert and won't be truly surprised on Thursday. The least Production could do now is not tell them it's a TE before the first eviction or the second. They need to let them believe it's a normal double right up until the end of the second eviction. But since Production is completely incompetent I expect them to open the live show by telling them it's a TE.

This needs to be the first thing that happens in order to save the show but it won't happen so the show will never be saved. It'll just continue to be the same boring, offensive shit year after year until the ratings become so bad they get rid of it.

Someone cooked rice in the crockpot in the beginning and it didn't turn out well. The only person who really used it was Kaysar he would make a  meat and potatoes dish in it. He also cooked a potato dish that Tyler really liked. 

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Lamb18

Lamb18

Christmas and Bean Station, TN are talking about her time in Iraq (cam 3 and 4 when not on STARS). She was describing a trailer that was set up with toilets and showers for them to use. I think there was a trailer like this at Ground Zero. The people working in the pit had to go into the decontamination area - which I believe was a trailer - and shower before they could go into the food tent, which was attached.

Christmas and Bean Station are sitting in the nominee chairs. Could that be foreshadowing??

choclatechip45

choclatechip45

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8 minutes ago, AryasMum said:

Maybe I should have split the question into:  Who improved their likability, and who improved their legacy of game player. 

Even though Kaysar was a pre jury boot I think he improved his legacy of a game player. Before this new season a lot of people thought Kaysar was one of the most overhyped players. I think this season the fact he was 85% right on the dynamics of the house and almost everything he predicted came true. The problem was no one listened to him. I do think he made some mistakes he should have tried to break up the larger alliance by turning people against each other instead of rallying the outsiders which is hard to do when you don't have any power. Also, blabbing everything was a mistake, but overall I think Kaysar improved his legacy as a player. 

Someone on this message board said it best that the issue with Kaysar is he thinks this game is like chess and doesn't account people's emotions when he makes decisions. I think his season 6 game was way better than Nicole Franzel's game in season 16. If Kaysar hadn't targeted Cappy, Cappy would have ran that game. The real issue is his season 7 game, but he was outplayed by Dr. Will when he thought he could go head to head with him.

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Lamb18

Lamb18

Enzo is talking about eating calves' leg that is "curd." Dani says like Little Miss Muffet, curds and whey? And there is whey protein? Enzo says, no it's how it's processed. Someone else says "like cottage cheese?" "No," says Enzo, "it gets salted and it hangs . . . " Finally everyone realizes he means "cured" but he was pronouncing it "curd."

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Melina22

Melina22

1 hour ago, Figster said:

Tyler might disagree with you when she was accusing him of causing her miscarriage.  "Calm" & "reasonable" are definitely not the first two words that would come to mind when I think of Bayleigh!

That was my point tho. Those words didn't come to mind at all before this season, which is why her calm and reasonable demeanor surprised me. I'm sure she still has her moments, but I feel like she's matured since her first season. (Did she make that accusation to Tyler during the current season?) 

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30 Helens

30 Helens

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9 hours ago, Christina said:

I'm going to make a slight correction to this point, because I have a lot of family who are JW and this is often confused with Christian Scientists who do not believe in medical treatment.

I apologize and hope I did not offend. Thanks for the correction.

2 hours ago, himela said:

This could be really confusing for the casuals. Remember that on survivor we only have two tribes of eight people or three tribes of six people and most of the time I don't remember the names until half of the people are evicted. Viewers will have to remember the teams of four people and this will get really confusing.

I don’t know about that. Survivor has started out with four tribes on more than one occasion. Even BB has done this before: On Kevin’s first season, they were divided into 4 high school cliques. And on the Coaches season, they were divided into 4 teams. I like the idea of dividing an All Stars season into teams, as a way to subvert pregame alliances. But since the next All Stars won’t happen for another 15 years (if tradition holds) it’s a moo point anyway. More twists would have helped this season, too. Planting a couple immunity idols, or random powers, to be found by searching or clue solving rather than just comps would have helped to shake things up. Like the word puzzle with the clues of the sheep and the sewing needle that everyone guessed hilariously wrong in the first All Stars. 

(Yes, I meant to say moo point. It’s my tribute to Joey Tribbiani.)

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himela

himela

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22 minutes ago, 30 Helens said:

Survivor has started out with four tribes on more than one occasion.

I have trouble remembering more than half the names until episode 8 of Survivor so I would find it hard to keep up with the teams in the house.

Anyway yeah, it doesn't matter now because the next seasons will only be new players (but maybe they will KNOW EACH OTHER!) 😛

 

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Dmarie019

Dmarie019

8 hours ago, Pixiebomb said:

ReallyTyler?  I call BS.    Both theaters on HHI serve wine.  

That's probably why they can do it and get away with it. It's probably over priced at the theater. 

I was once with a friend who got accused of sneaking stuff in (just regular candy or maybe pop) and she wasn't and she is not the type of person who will settle something quietly. I felt bad for the usher lol 

 

Kind of random... but do you think BB either pays for or suggests that the HGs get their teeth whitened? Even on old seasons it's like everyone has bright white teeth... even Donny! 

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Lamb18

Lamb18

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All those inflatables remind me of inflatables you can get from the Oriental Trading Company. I'd order stuff from there when I used to teach Vacation Bible School. I swear I got that same palm tree. I brought a bunch of jungle animal and farm animal inflatables to Ukraine when I taught VBS there.  We used them in acting out Bible stories. And the kids each got to keep one when VBS was over. The pastor took a pig and a grandma took a giraffe for a grandchild and the translator took a tiger. This was in a small town so there were people walking around town with an inflatable tucked under an arm.

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TheRealT

TheRealT

5 hours ago, Growsonwalls said:

I think David improved his legacy. Not that he's a good player (he's awful) but in such a joyless season, David is the rare comic relief. His trolling of people and his strange expressions and confusing figure of speeches make me laugh. 

ITA. Also, I think it's refreshing how he's playing kind of organically, while pretty much everyone else has a very inorganic game based on pre-game alliances and strategies, gaining SM followers, looking "cool" on TV, sticking with the Committee, being desperate to win, etc., etc.

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HartofDixie

HartofDixie

5 hours ago, Melina22 said:

That was my point tho. Those words didn't come to mind at all before this season, which is why her calm and reasonable demeanor surprised me. I'm sure she still has her moments, but I feel like she's matured since her first season. (Did she make that accusation to Tyler during the current season?) 

JD5166

JD5166

7 minutes ago, TheRealT said:

ITA. Also, I think it's refreshing how he's playing kind of organically, while pretty much everyone else has a very inorganic game based on pre-game alliances and strategies, gaining SM followers, looking "cool" on TV, sticking with the Committee, being desperate to win, etc., etc.

David should be ashamed of himself taking money out of Angela’s pocket!! 

Seriously, he’s the only likeable person in this game, he’s on the block every.single.week, fuck these people and their judgement of him. Take the $$ and run David. I would love him to somehow end up winning (nobody would vote for him so it would never happen...but we can dream!) America should be able to vote for the winner, a twist I could get behind. 

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Growsonwalls

Growsonwalls

1 minute ago, JD5166 said:

David should be ashamed of himself taking money out of Angela’s pocket!! 

Seriously, he’s the only likeable person in this game, he’s on the block every.single.week, fuck these people and their judgement of him. Take the $$ and run David. I would love him to somehow end up winning (nobody would vote for him so it would never happen...but we can dream!) America should be able to vote for the winner, a twist I could get behind. 

Also it's so hypocritical of Dani considering she sprung for a prize in the HoH comp as well.

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HartofDixie

HartofDixie

5 hours ago, Melina22 said:

That was my point tho. Those words didn't come to mind at all before this season, which is why her calm and reasonable demeanor surprised me. I'm sure she still has her moments, but I feel like she's matured since her first season. (Did she make that accusation to Tyler during the current season?) 

This was a few months back on The Challenge:

 

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