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S01.E04: Making Of A Belieber


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For reals?  The chick that went for the discount surgery in Tijuana stayed once the nurses brought ice to "anesthetize" her stomach??  Stupidity deserves the discount rate and discount results she got.  And on a superficial level, her lazy eye was killing me throughout the entire episode. 

 

I knew they wouldn't do surgery on Justin Beiber's creepy stalker.  And the chick with the botched boob job can suck eggs.  Her vanity brought her to the surgery that went wrong, yet she wants to cry if someone has a comment on it.  Cry me a river.  You made a decision, and one can only assume that you signed off on a release explaining all  risks.  Her face didn't exactly look un-touched, so I wasn't buying her sob story.  What sealed it for me was the end scene of the wedding party - one of the bridesmaids didn't have a strapless dress on.  It was a very similar dress, but had straps.  Her drama was ridiculous.

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So far each episode has had a patient they won't operate on.  I figured it would be the Justin Beiber imitator.

 

For reals?  The chick that went for the discount surgery in Tijuana stayed once the nurses brought ice to "anesthetize" her stomach??  Stupidity deserves the discount rate and discount results she got.  And on a superficial level, her lazy eye was killing me throughout the entire episode.

Agree! I couldn't believe she stayed for the surgery.  She got what she paid for.  There is a reason it was so cheap.  

 

Boob woman was strange. She constantly looked like she was on the verge of tears.  Why do I think she got the boobs she asked for? I have a feeling she wanted them that big, not that the doctor snuck the big ones in while she was under.  The bridesmaid dress issue was so annoying.  Why not just wear a really good strapless bra.

 

I'm starting to think that the people on this show didn't so much get botched surgery but the surgery they asked for.  Super-sized boobs, multiple nose jobs. I don't think we are getting the whole story on some of the surgical history. 

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The breasts on California Girl were still too big. Dubrow has a skewed sense of proportion if he thought those looked good on her. He was correct that she wouldn't have been happy without the lift, though. I had a breast reduction and lift in 2000 and (1) yes, those leave some big ass scars, and (2) they've now fallen back to where they were before the surgery. Pfft.

 

My own addiction is to makeover shows of all kinds (houses, cars, tattoos, wardrobes) but the patients here have been uniformly so annoying and the results so underwhelming (especially the noses) that this hasn't been much fun to watch.

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They are doctors.  Licensed, I presume. Yet this is the second week they have referred to the outer genitalia as 'the vagina'.  I KNOW they know this is not correct. The only thing I can come up with is that they are all saying vagina because too many people have no idea what the outer female genitalia are called so they just lower common denominator the thing as a 'vagina'.  At least I hope that is what they are doing.  Non-sex sex education in America is why this is even necessary.  Thank a conservative for that.

Thank you!  When they said her vagina was pulled up to her stomach I went crazy. Now that would be some messed up surgery.  

 

Did anyone else detect an accent from Justin Bieber? I wonder where he is originally from. Not that it matters. He still can't sing and doesn't look at all like Justin.

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Did anyone else detect an accent from Justin Bieber? I wonder where he is originally from. Not that it matters. He still can't sing and doesn't look at all like Justin.

 

I believe he said he was from Germany.  A grown man trying to emulate that little snot-nosed brat??!!??  And he MUST be surrounded by "yes" men . . . that voice!!!!

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What kind of grown-ass woman makes her father sell his boat so that she can get a second set of breast implants? I mean, making him finance the first set at 17 is bad enough (and hella awkward - I'd rather stay flat-chested than have THAT conversation with my father) but once you're grown and married and having a redo because you're simply that vain, the financial onus for that decision is SO on you (and your somewhat slow-witted husband) as adults. It's not like that this is some life-saving medical procedure. Let poor Grandpa enjoy his boat, for heaven's sake.

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Desiree (vagina belly woman) would have been better spending her money on getting that wonky eye fixed.

 

If the boob woman is 29 years old, then I'm 24. She has to be well into her 30s - or at least she looked it.I think too much work can do that - look at Lindsay Lohan for example. After she had all that work done in her early 20s she ended up looking 35.

 

And there are no words for how ghastly that Justin Bieber guy is. What a total waste of money.

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What kind of grown-ass woman makes her father sell his boat so that she can get a second set of breast implants? I mean, making him finance the first set at 17 is bad enough (and hella awkward - I'd rather stay flat-chested than have THAT conversation with my father) but once you're grown and married and having a redo because you're simply that vain, the financial onus for that decision is SO on you (and your somewhat slow-witted husband) as adults. It's not like that this is some life-saving medical procedure. Let poor Grandpa enjoy his boat, for heaven's sake.

 

What I especially didn't understand is why she didn't pay her dad back if she felt so bad.  By the looks of the house she lives in, she and her husband clearly can afford to do so.

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What is the purpose of this show?   Every patient they have had, IMO,  was a whiny, self absorbed poop face who deserved to wake up with a butt  transplanted on their chin.    Aren't we supposed to want them to get a good result and be happy?  

 

The Grandma boober was a piece of work.    I guess her father only had to sell like a 12 foot Boston Whaler, because boob jobs ain't but 10k or less.   It's not like he had to sell a yacht, but still, the entitlement on that one.    When I was a child, my first exposure to boobs was National Geographic.   I thought that was what adult boobs should look like.   Actually, it is.   Boobs ARE udders, and after childbirth they will sag.    They're supposed to.    Oh, and newsflash:   Mature men of all ages from 18-180 prefer natural boobs to those grapefruit bolt ons.    They look better after they sag some!    Anyhoo,  I got a kick out of her Mother and that truck driving looking big sister needling her.    Get one of those devices that go to the waist to hoist those things up and quit yer sniveling. 

 

"My COOCHIE was on my STOMACH"  lady needed to see a reconstructive eye specialist and get a better quality wig.   Her mom, too.   No, hon, you won't be getting one of those fine men because your stomach is all better, what is keeping them away is your overwhelming stupidity.   And that damn little gimlet eye.    Sorry,  it's true. 

 

Long story short, I am amazed that women think the majority of men care about saggy boobs and stomachs.     They really don't.    The ones who do aren't worth your time, so why bother with surgery to attract them?      

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I was surprised when they showed the before pictures of the Bieber guy -- he was actually kind of cute pre-surgery. Now he just looks ridiculous. The only way his story about being mistaken for Bieber is actually true is if the people were far away and he had sunglasses on. Even then I kind of question it.

 

Boobs lady had some terrible face work. Maybe botox in the wrong muscles somehow, or a really bad lip job. It was like she couldn't move her lips normally. They were always kind of paralyzed in the corners.

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So the 'Belieber' has a girlfriend.  Someone needs to sit girlfriend down and tell her about gay people.  And straight up damaged delusional people.  He seems like a very damaged trust fund baby to me, more money (and fantasy) than sense and no one to talk straight to him.  He is probably propped up by all kinds of hangers on who get paid for keeping his delusions going.  And he doesn't look a thing like Bieber. Why any grown man would want to look like that effeminate little asshole dork is beyond me, but takes all kinds I guess. I guess I'm not a belieber.  I can't believe I just typed that. 

 

ITA! Who would want to look like that little punk? I can see If you are an impersonator of a real legend like Elvis or Cher and make a living at it, but in 5-10 years who will remember Beiber? He'll be stuck with with the Milli Venilli face of today.

What is the purpose of this show?   Every patient they have had, IMO,  was a whiny, self absorbed poop face who deserved to wake up with a butt  transplanted on their chin.    Aren't we supposed to want them to get a good result and be happy?  

 

The Grandma boober was a piece of work.    I guess her father only had to sell like a 12 foot Boston Whaler, because boob jobs ain't but 10k or less.   It's not like he had to sell a yacht, but still, the entitlement on that one.    When I was a child, my first exposure to boobs was National Geographic.   I thought that was what adult boobs should look like.   Actually, it is.   Boobs ARE udders, and after childbirth they will sag.    They're supposed to.    Oh, and newsflash:   Mature men of all ages from 18-180 prefer natural boobs to those grapefruit bolt ons.    They look better after they sag some!    Anyhoo,  I got a kick out of her Mother and that truck driving looking big sister needling her.    Get one of those devices that go to the waist to hoist those things up and quit yer sniveling. 

 

"My COOCHIE was on my STOMACH"  lady needed to see a reconstructive eye specialist and get a better quality wig.   Her mom, too.   No, hon, you won't be getting one of those fine men because your stomach is all better, what is keeping them away is your overwhelming stupidity.   And that damn little gimlet eye.    Sorry,  it's true. 

 

Long story short, I am amazed that women think the majority of men care about saggy boobs and stomachs.     They really don't.    The ones who do aren't worth your time, so why bother with surgery to attract them?      

She should have got up and left TJ when the ice instead of anesthesia came out. 

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Boob woman was strange. She constantly looked like she was on the verge of tears.  Why do I think she got the boobs she asked for? I have a feeling she wanted them that big, not that the doctor snuck the big ones in while she was under.  The bridesmaid dress issue was so annoying.  Why not just wear a really good strapless bra.

 

I'm starting to think that the people on this show didn't so much get botched surgery but the surgery they asked for.  Super-sized boobs, multiple nose jobs. I don't think we are getting the whole story on some of the surgical history. 

Either on the verge of tears or actually in tears.  Did she smile once the whole episode?  My DVR cut off before her big "reveal" at the end, so I didn't get to see her in the bridesmaid's dress.  (Well, I did, but only from the back in the "Coming up..." scene.)  I also can't believe that her plan with her previous doctor was that he'd go in and decide what to do during surgery.  She was having us believe, I guess, that they didn't have any kind of dicussion about size?  Please, I don't believe that for a second.  She might not have said "give me DDD," but I'm pretty sure she must have said she wanted them to be really big.  I also don't believe that her father never knew that she was so unhappy with the previous surgery -- she couldn't get through a sentence without crying about it.  How could anyone that knows her not know how unhappy she was about it?

 

So the 'Belieber' has a girlfriend.  Someone needs to sit girlfriend down and tell her about gay people.  And straight up damaged delusional people.  He seems like a very damaged trust fund baby to me, more money (and fantasy) than sense and no one to talk straight to him.  He is probably propped up by all kinds of hangers on who get paid for keeping his delusions going.  And he doesn't look a thing like Bieber. Why any grown man would want to look like that effeminate little asshole dork is beyond me, but takes all kinds I guess. I guess I'm not a belieber.  I can't believe I just typed that. 

 

The woman with the stomach issue also looked good at the end. Considering what they had to work with, I think they did a fantastic job. 

I almost fell over when he mentioned the girlfriend -- one who apparently doesn't like Justin Bieber (I'm with her on that one) and didn't thinik it was odd that her boyfriend was having plastic surgery to get Justin's "luscious lips" (I believe that's how he phrased it).  While it's fun to laugh at how ridiculous and delusional some of these patients seem to be, underneath it all, it's just sad.  Clearly there are mental and emotional issues driving some of these people to make these kinds of drastic changes.

 

I agree that the stomach surgery woman looked good at the end -- esp. viewing the before and after photos next to each other.

 

Did anyone else detect an accent from Justin Bieber? I wonder where he is originally from. Not that it matters. He still can't sing and doesn't look at all like Justin.

Has anyone here ever seen "Legally Blonde: The Musical"?  There's a song in it called "There! Right There!" which includes the following lyrics: 

Elle:  What are we seeing?

Callahan:  Is he gay?

Elle:  Of course he's gay.

Calahan:  Or European?

All:  ohhhhhh.  Gay or European?  It's hard to guarantee.  Is he gay or European?

Warner:  Well, hey don't look at me.

I immediately thought of that song when watching faux-Justin!

 

What kind of grown-ass woman makes her father sell his boat so that she can get a second set of breast implants? I mean, making him finance the first set at 17 is bad enough (and hella awkward - I'd rather stay flat-chested than have THAT conversation with my father) but once you're grown and married and having a redo because you're simply that vain, the financial onus for that decision is SO on you (and your somewhat slow-witted husband) as adults. It's not like that this is some life-saving medical procedure. Let poor Grandpa enjoy his boat, for heaven's sake.

OMG, I totally agree.  Generally, I don't think anyone should have elective plastic surgery until they're at least 18.  I mean, they're not old enough to vote, but they're old enough to decide on potentially risky, unnecessary surgery that they might regret.  I feel the same way about tattoos, but I digress...

 

I was surprised when they showed the before pictures of the Bieber guy -- he was actually kind of cute pre-surgery. Now he just looks ridiculous. The only way his story about being mistaken for Bieber is actually true is if the people were far away and he had sunglasses on. Even then I kind of question it.

He looked SO much better in his before photos.  That just compounds the WTF-ness of it all.  I can't believe that anyone would believe ("beliebe" - hee) that he was Justin -- not only because he really didn't really look very much like Justin even after all that surgery, but he's also at least 10-15 years older that JB.  

 

As for that "Belieber" douche, I have to give serious props to both the doctors and the music producers for not laughing him out of the building. That delusional jackass offended my eyes *and* ears!

The one music producer earned his pay that day -- I couldn't believe he didn't bust out laughing.  There was one shot where they showed him kind of pinching his ear...I wondered if he did that to avoid laughing.  I sometimes will pinch the skin on my hand really hard either to avoid busting out laughing or to keep from crying...in either case, I'm focused on the pain in my hand so I kind of forget about what else is going on around me.

 

I didn't think I had much to say about this episode....turns out I had a lot to say!

 

ETA:  I almost forgot about stomach woman's mom.  I love how she started grilling Terry about his qualifications when she was the one that sent her daughter to Tijuana to get surgery from a doctor who used ice instead of anesthesia.  Way to be concerned NOW. 

 

By the way, I noticed in another episode -- the Vagina Bomb one I think -- how the doctors introduced themselves.  Terry introduced himself as "Dr. Terry" (I think -- either that or Terry DuBrow), but Paul introduced himself as "Dr. Nassif," which sounded much more professional. 

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I really like this show. It has enough surgery scenes, but not so much that it would make me sick. I also like the mixture of crazies (Bieber boy, Janice Dickinson) and "normal" people. I didn't like the mother-in-law making fun of the grandma boobs. I don't care if Charlotte (or her dad) paid for them, it's rude to make fun of her to her face. Even at the wedding the MIL was trying with the "remember when you first tried on the dress, heehee" shit. Yuck, now that is ugly to me.

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I agree that Charlotte's mother-in-law was passively-aggressively-mean.  But what was creepy was her father--while they were having their little talk, he kept looking at her chest---ewwww......I never thought I'd want to hear "Eyes up here, dad, eyes up here!"  The other thing is, I thought Charlotte's facial structure was closer to Justin Bieber's than the Belieber boy.  

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I also can't believe that her plan with her previous doctor was that he'd go in and decide what to do during surgery.  She was having us believe, I guess, that they didn't have any kind of dicussion about size?  Please, I don't believe that for a second.

 

I have a friend who had breast enhancement at the age of 40-ish, after a divorced.  She said she was embarrassed even speaking to the doctor and they definitely did not discuss size.  She ended up (luckily) with a 36-C.  The doctor apologized for not making them larger, but her skin and muscles were supposedly too tight.

 

Fake Justin Bieber said he was from Germany (there was a question above about his accent).

Except for TV drama, I can't figure out why Charlotte's mother-in-law was at Charlotte's *sister's* bridesmaids' fitting. Her MIL's no relation to her sister, if it's her husband's mother (what else would she be?). Charlotte's MIL wasn't in the wedding, was she? Did I miss something? She was heinous and trashy, so I did try to tune her out. Charlotte's sister was an asshole, too, laughing along with MIL about Charlotte's boobs. I'd have told her to find another bridesmaid.

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I have a friend who had breast enhancement at the age of 40-ish, after a divorced.  She said she was embarrassed even speaking to the doctor and they definitely did not discuss size.  She ended up (luckily) with a 36-C.  The doctor apologized for not making them larger, but her skin and muscles were supposedly too tight.

I don't understand this.  I mean, I understand what you're saying, but I don't understand how this could happen (not that I'm disputing that it did happen the way you describe....).  At the very least, the doctor could show pictures of women with different sized boobs and say, "Which looks better to you A or B?  Okay, which looks better to you A or C?  Okay, which looks better to you C or D? etc..." to try to settle on her hoped-for size.  What if her skin and muscles weren't too tight -- would the doctor have gone with the massive implants that so many patients seem to regret down the road?  It almost seems negligent for a doctor to perform elective plastic surgery without discussing the desired results with the patient beforehand. 

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They are doctors. Licensed, I presume. Yet this is the second week they have referred to the outer genitalia as 'the vagina'. I KNOW they know this is not correct. The only thing I can come up with is that they are all saying vagina because too many people have no idea what the outer female genitalia are called so they just lower common denominator the thing as a 'vagina'. At least I hope that is what they are doing. Non-sex sex education in America is why this is even necessary. Thank a conservative for that.

Why, you're welcome. However, I really don't think it's my fault if these doctors didn't pay attention in anatomy class. I think they went to medical school in California. Blame it on that.

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I don't understand this.  I mean, I understand what you're saying, but I don't understand how this could happen (not that I'm disputing that it did happen the way you describe....).

 

 

MMLesq, believe me, I don't understand either.  She worked in our large county hospital--a teaching hospital and everything was done there--consultation (such as it was) and surgery.   We're in our 70s now and I don't think a lot of HUGE implants were being done as normal practice in the 80s.    

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MMLesq, believe me, I don't understand either. She worked in our large county hospital--a teaching hospital and everything was done there--consultation (such as it was) and surgery. We're in our 70s now and I don't think a lot of HUGE implants were being done as normal practice in the 80s.

The silicone implants of the 1970s, 1980s and early 1990s weren't huge, IIRC, but they were those that many, many women developed problems with--autoimmune responses, for example. I think the increased availability of the Internet in the 1990s and along with it, porn, created the demand for clowny implants. The "new" silicone implants have been around only a decade at most, I'm thinking.
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The silicone implants of the 1970s, 1980s and early 1990s weren't huge, IIRC, but they were those that many, many women developed problems with--autoimmune responses, for example. I think the increased availability of the Internet in the 1990s and along with it, porn, created the demand for clowny implants. The "new" silicone implants have been around only a decade at most, I'm thinking.

 

So is the new silicone different than the old stuff?  I remember seeing women on talk shows talking about the health problems those implants caused.  I don't know anyone who has breast implants.  We just let them hang where I'm from.  The surgery just looks horrific the way the doctor stuffs them in there like he's stuffing a piñata.

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Long story short, I am amazed that women think the majority of men care about saggy boobs and stomachs.     They really don't.    The ones who do aren't worth your time, so why bother with surgery to attract them?

So true! Uniboob's husband, she was in the first episode, said he thought her boobs were just fine before. It's so annoying to see these women crying over not having perfect breasts.  What are perfect breasts? Every woman's breasts are different.  As cosmetic surgery has become more commonplace there seems to be a skewed view of what breasts should look like. Vintage Playboy centerfolds had all sizes and shapes. Now they all have the plastic beach ball look.

 

 I don't know why bridesmaid was saying she had grandma boobs. As a well endowed woman I can tell you if they are big they sag. They have since my 20's. It's nature. My other hangup is the doctor's asking if they want to be a C cup or a D cup.  A 40C is going to be a heck of a lot different in size and look than a 32D. The letter isn't the only factor in size and how it will look. Maybe that's why so many seem to be unhappy with the outcome.  Sorry for the rant. I'm an advocate for the natural but totally support any woman who wants to do it. 

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So is the new silicone different than the old stuff? I remember seeing women on talk shows talking about the health problems those implants caused. I don't know anyone who has breast implants. We just let them hang where I'm from. The surgery just looks horrific the way the doctor stuffs them in there like he's stuffing a piñata.

I must watch too much plastic surgery shows to know this stuff, but I think the new silicone implants have different enclosures (pouches) and differently formulated silicone inside. The old kind leaked easily and the silicone within migrated through the body and got into the bloodstream--I think--but the current kind stays in a mass that doesn't separate if the pouch should rupture.

At any rate, implants are supposed to be replaced every 10 or so years. When the doctors removed Janice Dickinson's multi-decade-old implants, they commented on them being "gummy".

My friend had a lift and for some reason, the doctor put in implants. She was already large (maybe 34F, but I could never get her to let me size her in a correctly fitting bra). She eventually (within just a couple years) had the implants removed because one had encapsulated--scar tissue had formed all around it inside her chest and it was firm to the touch, and higher than the other breast.

I live in a very image-conscious city in the Southeastern U.S. There was absolutely nothing wrong with my friend's breasts--they were large breasts that looked like 40-ish-year-old woman's breasts! We are both so single, but she is way fancier than I am. I date online, and pretty much all the men want 5K-running "slender" women (who nonetheless have porny clown tits). The pressure to look perfect in this town (and our society in general) is enormous. Men who watch clowny-titted porn stars and women who are wanting to get giant implants should be forced to watch videos of botched boob jobs.

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Sounds like LA, the land of what we like to call 'tits on a stick'.  Seriously, the number of women around here who have the way too slender body topped off by enormous fake boobs is ridiculous.  Most of them seem to be transplants from other parts of the country who want the 'look' in my experience. Us native LA folks tend to go for more a more natural body type.  Just look at the 'Real Housewives' for instance. Almost all of them are from somewhere else, not LA. With the fake boobs and the pretensions. 

 

I think it is very interesting that Terry's wife, Heather, is not one of them though.  He looks at fake boobs all day. He goes home to real ones, even if they are smaller.  I cannot imagine why women think the huge boobs look good in the first place. Clothes hang so much more attractively on a smaller chest than on the larger ones, and jewelry hangs better too. Big boobs make you look fatter than you are, which is why I think they go so ridiculously slender stick thin, to show they aren't fat, just big chested. Otherwise the boobs make you look big in your clothes unless they are very tight. Oh well, no one is every completely happy I guess. I'm one of four sisters, two with little boobs and two with natural large ones. And we all envy the opposite sisters and would gladly trade.  

 

Is it just me or are most of the people on this show getting the new surgery kind of trashy looking in their reveals?  Sometimes I wonder if they just went down to a local biker bar and asked if any of the girls wanted corrective plastic surgery and to be on TV. The other half of the patients are delusional plastic surgery junkies with big emotional damage and very off-putting personalities.  I can't think of anyone who doesn't fall into one of those two groups. 

You so nailed it!

I can see implants if you really really have nothing up there, but mostly implants are just gross.

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For reals?  The chick that went for the discount surgery in Tijuana stayed once the nurses brought ice to "anesthetize" her stomach??  Stupidity deserves the discount rate and discount results she got.  And on a superficial level, her lazy eye was killing me throughout the entire episode.

 

 

I felt sorry for her.  I mean we live in a society where we see pictures of women with perfect breasts and flat stomachs.   Now people think that's normal.  Desiree said that her stomach was flat until she had children, that is normal.  But today it seems that normal isn't what a lot of men want.  They want long hair, big boobs and a flat stomach, even if you don't have it naturally.  So women feel pressure to wear weaves and have plastic surgery because I guess they feel that's the only way they'll meet someone.

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I feel it can't be said enough when watching this show but WTF is wrong with people??  Tone-deaf Bieber-freak, I do not believe for one moment anyone mistook you for Justin.[

 I bet that incident he was talking about was really a bunch of people on a passing bus laughing at the loser dressed up like Justin Beiber.

 

What kind of grown-ass woman makes her father sell his boat so that she can get a second set of breast implants? I mean, making him finance the first set at 17 is bad enough (and hella awkward - I'd rather stay flat-chested than have THAT conversation with my father) but once you're grown and married and having a redo because you're simply that vain, the financial onus for that decision is SO on you (and your somewhat slow-witted husband) as adults. It's not like that this is some life-saving medical procedure. Let poor Grandpa enjoy his boat, for heaven's sake.

My gawd, she was such a whiny little bitch! Ditto for her M(IL?) and sister making nasty remarks about her at the fitting.

The lady with the "cootchy tummy" was incredibly stupid and deserved what she got. I suspect she and her mother are not strangers to plastic surgery.

Whiny pants granny boobs sure married into a mean family.  She probably snivels around them all the time, and those were some rough looking broads, but I sort of liked them torturing her.   She needs to toughen up to hang with that crowd. 

 

So, she's had three freaking boob jobs before thirty,  and isn't one dime out of pocket?   Ugh, hate her.   Thirty, though?    That pre boob job photo at seventeen looked thirty to me.  Hope her Pa was able to bide his time long enough to salvage another skiff to "restore", but my money's on him selling it when his hideous daughter comes around blubbering about boobs again.   The least she could do is work a pole for a few months to pay him back. 

 

That Bieber mess was just stupid.   Why do they waste our time with these fucked up red herrings?   They aren't even entertaining. 

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I'm guessing the Bieber guy overheard people saying "yikes, that guy thinks he looks like Justin Bieber!"

 

I knew they wouldn't touch that crazy with a ten foot pole, but it's good to remind people out in tv land who are thinking of similar drastic procedures (major jaw/facial reconstruction) that it's the last thing you want to do unnecessarily (or god forbid on the cheap) because of the potential disastrous outcomes (facial paralysis, etc.)  Hopefully there are people out there in the early stages of 

thinking such surgeries will make them beautiful who will take a step back and say "Oh, wow, well, nevermind."  And that's the best they can hope for, because the truly delusional will just doctor shop until they find somebody who will do what they want.  With or without anesthesia.

 

The vagina comment bugged me, too.  That may be a war we've lost, I'm afraid.  

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Right beagletime, the older Playboy issues have centerfolds with different shapes and sizes. The new clowny big (bilgistic, LOL) are fakey.  Guys don't care, they just want to have sex.

 

That said, my breasts look better than when I was young, due to working out and good bras, and having a baby, and again, good bras.


My boyfriend and I binge watched Botched and he asked why people do this.  I blamed it on California/Hollywood, stupidity, and insecurity.  Any other reasons?  (Except for not being able to breathe like the noses).


My boyfriend and I binge watched Botched, and he asked why people do this.  I blamed it on California/Hollywood, stupidity, and insecurity.  Anthing else?

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I've always had a big nose; I remember being picked on about it in elementary school. It was broken in high school when I was playing with some little kids a friend's mom was sitting. One of the kids cracked his head perfectly on the bridge of my nose and I saw stars. After that, I had a little hump on the bridge. I would jump at the chance to have my nose fixed, but that costs money I don't have. I've discovered through this show that my septum is deviated, also, but I don't know if it always was or was a result of the break. I've always had breathing problems (nighttime mouth breather), sinus and other headaches, etc., but what are you going to do? Take a Claritin and Tylenol and go on with your life. We aren't all stunning beauties with deep pockets.

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If you have good insurance, a nose job can be covered because of a deviated septum. Same thing with jaw surgery. An over/underbite can cause a lot of problems for people (tooth crowding, pain, etc.). Jaw surgery is major, but the results can look phenomenal.

 

The people on this show are either batshit, or really bad examples of just BAD surgery. I have nothing against plastic surgery at all. I've seen many, many examples of fantastic results. Having said that, I had implants put in when I was 18. I was completely naive about it and it almost wasn't my choice to begin with. It was a "gift" from my mom. Thanks mom! At first, they were something of a novelty, then I grew to despise them. I developed capsular contracture over the years and they became painful. I was never told that implants had an expiration date. The best thing I ever did was have those things removed. The doctor tried to talk me into replacing them with smaller ones but I refused. I carried them around for 20 years and I just wanted them OUT. It really was like a weight was lifted....off my chest! I'm back to an A cup and couldn't be happier. I can go braless if I want and I can wear anything. I'm naturally very thin, so a more streamlined look is just me. Huge jugs look trashy (I was "only" a C cup, though) and cheap.

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That's the problem with any implant,  cosmetic or medical.   They all have expiration dates, and most people don't know that.    Glad you got those funbags out, kitten.  I just cannot imagine carrying them around, I would be so afraid of popping them.

 

I too have a big nose, but don't want it smaller, just a little thinner at the nostril area.   Unless I have a deviated septum and have to fix that, the nose job ain't happening.   Michelle Phan will just have to teach me the magic of contouring. 

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What kind of grown-ass woman makes her father sell his boat so that she can get a second set of breast implants? I mean, making him finance the first set at 17 is bad enough (and hella awkward - I'd rather stay flat-chested than have THAT conversation with my father) but once you're grown and married and having a redo because you're simply that vain, the financial onus for that decision is SO on you (and your somewhat slow-witted husband) as adults. It's not like that this is some life-saving medical procedure. Let poor Grandpa enjoy his boat, for heaven's sake.

I watched this ep again and was angry at that swiveling little bitch when she told her sob story about making daddy pay for it by selling his boat and how bad she felt about it being for naught, yet not bad enough to pay him back, apparently. I wonder if she made him pay for the correction?

Grannyboobs was especially annoying. Her surgery wasn't botched. She had boobs way too big for her frame crammed in there. She got what she wanted.The after boobs were still bigger then her frame should have. When they were trying on the bridesmaids gowns it sounded like she wanted to be able to go braless. They're called bras and foundation garments. No one wants to see your big boobs popping out at a wedding.

 

Next week looks like another surgery done on the cheap in another country.  I'm sure there are good surgeons all over the world. But if it sounds too good to be true it probably is.

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I'm 4'9" with D cups. Natural. Hate 'em because they just are not proportionate body but, I'm not going to do plastic surgery to make them smaller. I've had a kid and I know they aren't the perkiest but my friend, who is 5'8" has a size B. She wants implants because he hubby lines larger boobs. I would really suggest she wear fake D's and see if she still wants them. Mine get in the way all the dang time.

I like Dr Nassif. I get the feeling he's not a big fan of Dr Terry!

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