S01.E03: Vagina Bomb!

[zxy556575]

Did Dubrow and Nassif intend this show to be a anti-cosmetic surgery PSA?

Edited July 7, 2014 by lordonia

[tabloidlover]

I was so confused by the girl with the stich still in her nose.  Is there a reason she never went back to the surgeon to say what the fuck?  It just defies logic.

[lottiedottie]

I was so confused by the girl with the stich still in her nose.  Is there a reason she never went back to the surgeon to say what the fuck?  It just defies logic.

That was so icky. I didn't understand that either, unless she was experiencing some level of "No way am I going back to that guy/any other surgeon for that matter" PTSD. Maybe she was fearful of something getting fucked up even worse that kept her from going. I can't say I blame her.

 

I really felt for the butt implant lady. Wow, that must be awful to live with!

[zxy556575]

I might have felt sorry for Ms. Butt if I hadn't seen the photos of how huge she had it blown up to before, and the clothes she wore to show it off. She also ignored her doctor's recommendations not to have the implants inserted right after surgery to remove the silicone. I'm not so sure about her body dysmorphia, either - more like attention whoria, what with voluntarily putting her saggy ass on You Tube.

 

Oh, Kimber. Those tits are still way too big and you're still way too dependent on being in porn. It was funny to see her chest completely collapse when the implants were removed. No natural breast tissue, indeed.

 

It probably takes a lot to horrify these doctors, but they definitely had that, "My eyes!" thing going on when Kimber's friend cheerfully flashed her vagina at them.

Edited July 7, 2014 by lordonia

[patty1h]

Nose job girl looked about the same to me post-surgery.  She annoyed me when she started boo-hooing about not feeling pretty because of her nose.  I hate to say but I was thinking "new nose ain't helping".  When she strutted into the club in her skankwear, I felt bad for her.  Why did she have to resort to that?

 

Kimber James.... it was a little weird to hear how focused she was on finding a guy and having kids.  She was talking like she was looking forward to being pregnant herself.  Yeesh.

Edited July 7, 2014 by patty1h

[lottiedottie]

 

It probably takes a lot to horrify these doctors, but they definitely had that, "My eyes!" thing going on when Kimber's friend cheerfully flashed her vagina at them.

That was priceless! Didn't one of them say "That's not necessary." ROFL! I thought Kimber looked her best sans makeup--you know, in the scenes where it looked like she was being filmed at home with her friend?

[Mu Shu]

Jesus, what a bunch of trifling gross people.

 

Butt girl got hosed.   I'll wager Kimber whatever and her 24 surgeries has a more serious issue with BMD.  For one thing,  Buttgirl apparently wasn't  obsessed with her body as a whole.   I thought she came off way saner than than the other two kooks.   Also,  those implants and masses need to come out sooner than later.   Medically, her case was urgent. 

 

Nosegirl and her 385 visible tattoos came of way nuttier.   She doesn't have friends because she's obsessed with having a big nose?  Girl, please.     I have a honker the size of Karl Malden's.    I guess I can see why she's so paranoid, though.    That woman who looks like a mashup of Dr. Ruth and Michael Jackson is her Mom, right?  Holy rhinoplasty, batman.   She's the one who needed it. 

 

I'm sorry, but Kimber and her pocketbook flashing friend were just nasty.   Like, making me itchy nasty.    Good luck with that nice man from the south, honey.   Unless he's some toothless hillbilly whose trashy family would glom onto your porn earnings, it probably ain't happening.    She just looked like an alien.   Sad, freaky little alien.

 

I hope Buttgirl comes back.   That was actually a case where the before and after would have been interesting.   These nominally messed up noses and boobs don't cut the mustard.   That poor thing was deformed. 

[featherhead]

Nose job girl's nose was way better then her mother's nose. That thing was so small, I was shocked it could hold up those huge glasses.

[4leafclover]

 

That woman who looks like a mashup of Dr. Ruth and Michael Jackson is her Mom, right?

 

Soooooo true!  I immediately saw the Michael/LaToya nose but couldn't put my finger on the face and hair--definitely Dr. Ruth!  

[fliptopbox]

You guys do realize Kimber used to be a man, right? That's why she's had so many plastic surgeries.

 

Nose girl annoyed the hell out of me, and what was with the hooker outfit at the end to meet up with a couple friends and her mother?! Creepy!

[Mu Shu]

Yes, we do realize Kimber is transgender.   Not every  or even most trans women goes through that many surgeries.   Usually one boob job, one nose job, and some facial tweaking does the trick before the big show.   Multiple boob  and nose jobs before the age of 25  have nothing to do with transitioning, but a lot to do with possible and probable BMD. 

[xls]

The nose jobs all looked bad to me, maybe its the swelling? But two different shaped nostrils?

[kitten59]

I realize that we're seeing the nose job reveals too soon to see the final results, but that porn star's nose was wack! The elephant in the room which no one addressed was her wonky nostrils! There was quite the size difference. It was there before, but why did Nassif not correct that?? I have yet to be convinced that he is the top nose guy in LA.

 

The other nose job didn't help that poor rat-faced girl. And she looked cheap and ratty when she showed up at the end with her short, tight dress. Looks like mom got the ski jump special, circa 1963.

[PityFree]

It probably takes a lot to horrify these doctors, but they definitely had that, "My eyes!" thing going on when Kimber's friend cheerfully flashed her vagina at them.

All I could think was "OMG! I hope they burned the chair after the show."

 

I realize that we're seeing the nose job reveals too soon to see the final results, but that porn star's nose was wack! The elephant in the room which no one addressed was her wonky nostrils! There was quite the size difference. It was there before, but why did Nassif not correct that?? I have yet to be convinced that he is the top nose guy in LA.

 

The other nose job didn't help that poor rat-faced girl. And she looked cheap and ratty when she showed up at the end with her short, tight dress.

The porn star's nose looked exactly the same tragic way after as before. Same with her ridiculous boobs. Waste of time and money.

 

And I agree - that tacky dress and CFM heels were ridiculous on that poor rat-faced girl.

Edited July 10, 2014 by PityFree

[MMLEsq]

I hate to break it to Kimber -- but you do not look "expensive," no matter what your friend tells you.

[sunrisepink]

Didn't one of them say "That's not necessary." ROFL!

 

 

Wasn't it Dr. Alter that said "We know what a vagina looks like." LOL! They were so unimpressed!

 

I agree that Butt Lady should NOT have been turned away as her dysmorphia seemed butt-specific and the flipped implant appeared to be a medical emergency. How could she possibly sit down without discomfort?

 

Nose girl's nose looked bulbous to me but I guess that's preferable to a Michael Jackson nose. Too bad she couldn't have something in between. Her energy was completely different after the surgery.

[beagletime]

Maybe I'm being picky, but they were not fixing Kimber's vagina.  Dr. Alter was fixing the vulva. The girl at the consultation didn't flash her vagina. That would be pretty hard as the vagina is internal.  I know it's picky, but I would expect doctors on the show to use the correct names for body parts.

 

I wonder if butt woman lost a huge amount of weight and then started working on her butt?  Her thighs had the look of someone who had lost over 100 pounds. Very loose skin.  

 

 

[Mu Shu]

I hate to break it to Kimber -- but you do not look "expensive," no matter what your friend tells you.

I thought she was quite pretty without makeup, and would have been more so without the nosejob, duck lips, and  with a C cup on that delicate torso.  Expensive?   Not really, unless she meant it in a "I'll get you drunk and have you spend money on me at the Bebe and Coach outlet" kind of way.   Porn people are so broken, poor things.    Overall, she wasn't a rude, ungrateful asshole like some of the others were. 

[4leafclover]

I really think the docs must be privy to more info on the patients than they let us see---they would need more history on Butt Lady to diagnose her with Body Dysmorphic Disorder than what we saw, otherwise that ditzy Janice Dickinson and Kimber would have had the same diagnosis and told to hit the road. 

[MMLEsq]

Porn people are so broken, poor things.   

Reminds me of this line from "A Mother's Prayer for Her Daughter" from Tina Fey's book Bossypants:  "May she be Beautiful but not Damaged, for it’s the Damage that draws the creepy soccer coach’s eye, not the Beauty."

Edited July 11, 2014 by MMLEsq

[bilgistic]

I was going to post that I wondered why this episode was titled "Vagina Bomb!" but I figured it out just as I began to post. Kimber's friend "bombed" (as in "photobombed") the doctors with her "vagina" (except not her vagina, as beagletime posted; she actually "bombed" with her mons pubis, but anyhoodles).

So, the title didn't, in fact, refer to dynamite smuggled inside of a vagina. Instead of an IUD°, you'd have an IED, amirite?

*microphone feedback*

*crickets chirping*

Since when is tagging along with your friend to the doctor's office a thing?

°Yes, I know an IUD is fitted inside the uterus, not the vagina. It was a bad joke.

[Mannahatta]

I found Dubrow's "joke" about Kimber having to fake orgasms - like his own wife does - to be tacky and hostile. Way to put down both your wife and patient on national TV, Doc.

 

That said, how is the ability to become sexually aroused maintained after a sex change operation -especially for the transition to being a woman? I usually don't go in for graphic details about operations but I would have liked it if they had spoken more about that issue. And Dubrow's hostile remark made me wonder how these doctors view their SOs after cutting and sewing up woman all day?  It's a strange line of work but I guess someone has to do it.

 

Also, the girl with the nose job definitely had issues beyond her nose. First of all, it was delusional for her to use her nose as an excuse for not having more friends. Plus, how did she go from acting a meek little wall flower in the beginning of the program to looking like she had been "rode hard and put away wet" at the end? Girl needs some serious help - psychiatric and style-wise.

Edited July 12, 2014 by Mannahatta

[ExplainItAgain]

I agree that Butt Lady should NOT have been turned away as her dysmorphia seemed butt-specific and the flipped implant appeared to be a medical emergency. How could she possibly sit down without discomfort?

 

I think she got those implants removed and she was left with the saggy, dimpled skin that she wanted Dubrow/Nassif to fix? I wonder if she will come back or if she just went down the phonebook and found another surgeon willing to do the surgery?

[Mu Shu]

I think she got those implants removed and she was left with the saggy, dimpled skin that she wanted Dubrow/Nassif to fix? I wonder if she will come back or if she just went down the phonebook and found another surgeon willing to do the surgery?

Unfortunately, in a scene burned into my psyche and on my retinas, Terry made butt lady bend over whilst he manhandled her flipped implant.   Paul just hovered in the background with a "Damn, I am glad the worst thing I have to deal with on the face is boogers"   sort of look. 

 

To date, she seemed to be the most rational one.    She realized she made a mistake and didn't cry or become a hermit.   She put that shit on YouTube and probably makes a decent extra income on the ads.    I still think the before and after would have been the most dramatic to date.

[Tara Ariano]

Unfortunately, in a scene burned into my psyche and on my retinas, Terry made butt lady bend over whilst he manhandled her flipped implant.

 

 

I no longer have access to the episode, but I did watch that bit twice because I wrote about it, and I'm pretty sure that she'd had the implants removed; she still had a lot of scar tissue but she wanted her butt built up again; they told her the best they could do was a butt lift (and no more putting foreign objects/substances in the area), and after some talk about her body dysmorphia and whether she could have therapy and come to terms with "just" a butt lift, she left.

[beagletime]

When watching the episode I kept forgetting that Kimber had orginally been a man.  The doctor pointed out how stretched the skin was over the implants since there was no breast tissue to start with.  Would they have to put stretchers in there to gradually stretch the skin to handle the giant implant? It seems it would be hard to get them in there without stretching first.

[xls]

When watching the episode I kept forgetting that Kimber had orginally been a man.  The doctor pointed out how stretched the skin was over the implants since there was no breast tissue to start with.  Would they have to put stretchers in there to gradually stretch the skin to handle the giant implant? It seems it would be hard to get them in there without stretching first.

Don't hormones make their breasts grow?

[ethalfrida]

Okay, now. Was it Kimber who was transsexual? Why did she keep talking about "having" children" as if she'd come with the equipment. I know there was one man who had a child but he started out as a woman.... There was just something too unreal about the way she was talking about having a child. Not adopting but having.

[4leafclover]

 

Why did she keep talking about "having" children" as if she'd come with the equipment.

 

When she and her girlfriend were shopping for and trying on (?) baby clothes, I think I remember her saying something vague about a surrogate.  

[ethalfrida]

@4leafclover, thank you. That's a lot more reasonable.

[BusyOctober]

I watched this show (or half watched from partially covered eyes).  I was so horrified by all of those procedures.  And the patients were pretty frightening too.  That Jenn girl was a little "off" to me.  She kept saying how she had no self-esteem but she seemed hella comfortable in front of the camera.  But I think her mom's nose terrified me the most!  It was like a thin layer of skin draped over the remaining bone and no cartilage! Was she in a horrible disfiguring fire? It reminded me of that scene in "Raiders of the Lost Ark" when everybody's face was melting. Yikes!

 

I don't understand why butt lady was turned away, yet Jenn was put through.  They both had psychological issues.  Is it because she stated out loud she had body dysmorphia?  Are those patients more litigious if they aren't happy?  Don't 98% of Dubrow & Nasif's clientele suffer from acute feelings of physiological inadequacy??  If it weren't for that disorder, they'd be out of business!

[Ubiquitous]

Kimber has deeper issues than can be fixed by plastic surgery. That said, I didn't see that much of a difference in the "after" photos, save for the boobs that were misshapened and uneven. After that vulgar comment about her vagina being pounded made me wonder if it was more for tightening up than being deformed. Yuck. Oh... that's what the title was about?

I don't blame them for turning the butt woman away, but that looked like a serious problem!

I think there was more to Jenn's story than we were told. I thought her story about becoming a hermit after her botched nose job was suspicious, especislly after she revealed her new job in that skanky outfit that showed off her nasty tattoos and her mother looked like a future participant on this show. When her mother said she needed "to get one", was she talking about rhinoplasty or getting a botched one fixed, too?

[Happycakez]

...But can we not call her a t***** please?

[Tara Ariano]

"T*****" and "his vagina" are not appropriate terminology for a transgender person.

[GreatKazu]

You guys do realize Kimber used to be a man, right? That's why she's had so many plastic surgeries.

I know someone who has just had the operation. There is a difference between a transgender going through the process and having surgeries versus what I thought Kimber was doing. I think Kimber has some psychological issues that go beyond wanting to be female. She is seeking some sort of perfection through her body rather than how she feels mentally.  It is as if she is more worried about the wrapping for the package than what is inside the package.

 

As for orgasms for Kimber, here is some information:

The procedure is called penile inversion: removing most of the penis's innards and turning the skin inside out, like a sock, to create a vaginal pouch. The glans (tip) of the penis winds up at the bottom (far end) of the vagina. A clitoris can be created from the corpora spongiosa, the erectile tissue that causes the penis to stiffen during arousal.

 

 

Nose girl didn't have friends because she was probably such a Debbie Downer to be around. Have any of you ever been around a person who is so depressed for petty stuff that it just becomes annoying to be around them? That is the feeling I got with her right from the start. I am sorry she received such bad work on her nose. That stitch or whatever it was that was protruding from her nose, is inexcusable and that doctor should be held liable or at least reported. I think the girl focused too much on how much her nose was not perfect and she became a pain to be around. Her sulky attitude, the crying, the whole thing was a turn-off. There are so many people in this world who are truly disfigured or deformed for one reason or another and would probably love to have her problem which didn't seem to be much of a problem other than trying to find a plastic surgeon who could fix her nose in a proper fashion.

[jennhatesyou2]

I'm sad I didn't see this two years ago when it aired.

Hi, I'm the rat-faced nose girl you guys have been chatting about. Few things I'd like to clear up:

1. My father died the day I got the phone call to be on Botched, literally as I was walking home from the hospital. We started filming 2 weeks later. He died after having surgery to fix his hip. The surgery worsened his dementia and he died as a result. Sorry I couldn't be more lively or put together for your sensibilities but my life was a mess at the time. I am not ashamed for crying, I had every fucking right. I was scared shitless of going into surgery after what happened with my dad. But of course they didn't talk about THAT. Dead parents doesn't make for good "plastic surgery TV".

2. 90% of that show was forced. The scene at the end? I had no control over my wardrobe ( They bought it for me), my hair, my makeup, the place, or what they asked me to "give" to camera. They wanted a 180 from who I was "before". So I gave them the best fake "amazing" life I could. I am not an actress and I don't want to be one.  "Reconnecting" with my friends was a giant joke a producer brought up the day before my surgery. She didn't think my story was dramatic enough and asked me if I had a friend that would be willing to play the part of the "long lost friend". Joi, the girl at the finale with me, and I have been friends for 8 years and we have never fought once. We talk weekly and always have. But again, my life was not dramatic enough for TV so we played it off.

3. The only reason I did this show was because of Dr. Nassif. I had been interested in getting my nose fixed by him for at least 6 years prior to the show. However, I didn't have $30,000 to pay to do so. When the opportunity came to me, I jumped at it, regardless of how stupid I was going to be made to look on tv. And ya'll are lying if you say you wouldn't do the exact same thing.

4. Leave my mother out of this. The woman is fucking 75 years old. She had a nose job before half your parents were even born. It's terrible, yes, but if you want to insult someone, come for me, not her.

5. You should also be aware I was the first person filmed for the show. I was the test for how they would shoot the rest of the episodes.

6. The finale was filmed 2 months after surgery. My nose was still swollen. Almost 3 years later and my nose is perfect. Can't even tell anything was ever done to it. I can breathe and I'm happy.

Sorry I didn't get to partake in this hate fest when it was still relevant. Obviously I didn't do this to gain favor with the internet. This is the first time I've looked at any response to the episode online and I only did it now because I was trying to find the episode and this forum popped up. At the end of the day I'm still thrilled I was picked to be a part of the show even though I came off on TV as a shithead. I'd do it again in a heartbeat to get the results I ended up with. I'm a really bad liar and I wasn’t made to be on reality tv and that was obvious through the whole episode. Sorry you didn’t enjoy the episode.