S10.E09: Grave Errors

[wknt3]

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While working a case of a nanny accused of abuse, Erin disagrees with the psychiatric consultant, Dr. Alice Dornan, regarding her diagnosis and punishment suggestion. Also, Eddie confronts her boss who has a personal vendetta against the commissioner and the Reagan family name; Mayor Peter Chase pushes Frank to make staffing changes he is skeptical about; and Danny goes undercover on a case when a woman claims to have heard someone plotting a murder.

[rhys]

I didn't care a whit about Erin's story or Eddie's, but, finally the other 2 were great. I didn't see Danny 's twist at all. Good on ya, show writers!

I kinda figured Garret had something backstabby going on. Too bad Mr. Mayor gets his way about "stop, ask, frisk." ( or whatever it's called) I don't see why he wants that reinstated.

[Bazinga]

1 hour ago, rhys said:

I didn't see Danny 's twist at all. Good on ya, show writers!

To me the story made no sense from a crime perspective.  Roxy's goal is to kill Danny as revenge for putting her father in prison.  Assuming Danny did not catch the clue the audience (unfairly) doesn't know, and is killed by Roxy, the first person Baez is going to investigate when her partner doesn't show up is Roxy, the last person known to be with Danny.  The next person is Joe, who would turn on Roxy.  Baez would then find Roxy's link to Danny.  Just an ill conceived plan just to get the drop on Danny by initiating contact with the police.  There had to be a better, less convoluted way. 

Eddie's story is likewise ridiculous.  Sergeant holds a misguided grudge against Frank (are any other kinds of grudges even possible against St. Francis?).  Doesn't take it out on his son, Jamie.  No, instead she goes after his daughter-in-law.  It makes no sense that she would go against Eddie, knowing how powerful Frank is and that he could come after her like he did her ex.  But, instead of putting Eddie on report for imagined infractions, she intentionally works with her and is...mean and cold to her.  Now that is some vengeance (sarcasm). 

Erin was bitchier and more full of herself then usual until Anthony set her straight.  Rinse repeat. 

When did we find out Erin wasn't running for DA?  That is not where I thought it was left last episode.

Didn't like anything about this one.

Edited November 23, 2019 by Bazinga

[preeya]

10 minutes ago, Bazinga said:

Erin was bitchier and more full of herself then usual until Anthony set her straight.  Rinse repeat. 

When did we find out Erin wasn't running for DA?  That is not where I thought it was left last episode.

Didn't like anything about this one.

ITA ↑

Edited November 23, 2019 by preeya

[AnnA]

Too bad Erin didn't move to San Francisco. She's such a bitch.  I never liked her and grew to hate her over the years. 

Edited November 23, 2019 by AnnA

[mojito]

It's a sad commentary that people have such harsh criticisms of the female characters on this and other shows. I don't know if it's a commentary of how the characters are written or how they are judged. Either way, I'm disappointed.

[preeya]

2 hours ago, mojito said:

It's a sad commentary that people have such harsh criticisms of the female characters on this and other shows. I don't know if it's a commentary of how the characters are written or how they are judged. Either way, I'm disappointed.

Definitely not a female thing. It is more of how and what they (Erin & Nicki) are portraying themselves as.

No one on the show gets more criticism than Danny with Frank running a close second.

[AnnA]

2 hours ago, mojito said:

It's a sad commentary that people have such harsh criticisms of the female characters on this and other shows. I don't know if it's a commentary of how the characters are written or how they are judged. Either way, I'm disappointed.

I absolutely loved Linda and I've only had positive comments about Eddie and Baker so your disappointment is unfounded.

[Rambler]

Dear Showrunners,

If it is absolutely necessary that every recurring character on this show not named Baez be white as the driven snow, would it kill you to maybe have a couple of minority guest stars in each episode?

Thanks.

[jaimesommers]

Where’s Rachel? Last week Eddie was partnered with the male cop and this episode was with her sergeant. 

[Sarah 103]

I wished we had seen Eddie investigating. Baker doing exposition out of nowhere was kind of boring. Maybe show Eddie doing some digging of her own. Jamie is great at research, maybe she picked up a few things from him. 

I predicted how the Garrett story was going to end. The writing on this show has been steadily declining over the past few seasons. 

It was fun to see Anthony as Reagan Whisperer. That is his unofficial title. 

Edited November 24, 2019 by Sarah 103

[MsNewsradio]

7 hours ago, jaimesommers said:

Where’s Rachel? Last week Eddie was partnered with the male cop and this episode was with her sergeant. 

Not sure what the filming schedule is for this show, but Lauren Patten is currently performing in Jagged Little Pill on Broadway and it’s unlikely she’ll be available for awhile. 
 

(Highly recommend, btw - her performance of You Oughta Know blows the doors off the place) 

[JayDub]

Nothing wrong with Erin's character other than she needs to get laid.

[preeya]

3 hours ago, JayDub said:

Nothing wrong with Erin's character other than she needs to get laid.

Where's Tom Brady?  🤣

[AnnA]

6 hours ago, JayDub said:

Nothing wrong with Erin's character other than she needs to get laid.

That might help but she'd still have her resting bitch face and come off as a know-it-all.

[wknt3]

On 11/22/2019 at 11:17 PM, rhys said:

I kinda figured Garret had something backstabby going on. Too bad Mr. Mayor gets his way about "stop, ask, frisk." ( or whatever it's called) I don't see why he wants that reinstated.

In story? Because he supports police and understands that we can never ever place any limits on aggressive police tactics without letting the criminals win. Because these sort of policies are never abused except by a few bad apples who are swiftly dealt with.

The meta reason? Because the role of NYC mayor has always been used to comment on national politics. In this case we have a real estate mogul who is not a traditional politician, He doesn't really understand how some of these things work and may go a bit too far at times with underhanded tactics, but his heart is in the right place and he supports law and order and traditional values even if he doesn't grasp all the practicalities right away. I will leave it as an exercise for the reader to determine how this is a metaphor for current events...

[Mars477]

On 11/23/2019 at 6:37 PM, Rambler said:

Dear Showrunners,

If it is absolutely necessary that every recurring character on this show not named Baez be white as the driven snow, would it kill you to maybe have a couple of minority guest stars in each episode?

Thanks.

I’m sure there’s room for yet another BLM leader who is secretly self centered and thus horrible because the show writers have overdosed on the Blue Lives Matter koolaid.

Its not like this show is set in New York City after all.

Edited November 25, 2019 by Mars477

[JayDub]

20 hours ago, preeya said:

Where's Tom Brady?  🤣

Not sure Gisele would like Mr 12 bumping uglies with an old girlfriend.

[Brian Cronin]

6 hours ago, Mars477 said:

I’m sure there’s room for yet another BLM leader who is secretly self centered and thus horrible because the show writers have overdosed on the Blue Lives Matter koolaid.

Its not like this show is set in New York City after all.

They have been on quite a streak lately, right? The rape victim who was making it up, the revenge porn girl who was making it up, the cop who used the right amount of force but the media unfairly said otherwise and now, "Finally, a mayor who will give us the tools we need to do our job!" 

Frank was acting seriously weird this episode. It was like he was a kid whose feelings were hurt. The way he snapped at everyone during dinner like a dick, it was uncharacteristic. I'm used to Frank being holier than thou (and always, always correct), not just being mean to people because his feelings were bruised. 

Eddie's plot was odd, if only because I don't know of anyone who would ever think making up a story about their husband abusing them would be a good rhetorical tactic. I would imagine the other people would be mostly shocked that you would make up something like that and that would take away most of the rhetorical advantage of the story. 

[TV Diva Queen]

On 11/23/2019 at 3:52 PM, mojito said:

It's a sad commentary that people have such harsh criticisms of the female characters on this and other shows. I don't know if it's a commentary of how the characters are written or how they are judged. Either way, I'm disappointed.

Erin is miserable.  Plain and simple, not sure why she's written that way, but she is.  Think about it, when was the last time we've seen her happy? smiling? on a date?  out the the gals?  She's always opposing what other people say.  And frankly, I'm tired of the way she treats Anthony, that man has never NOT her back.  

[mtlchick]

On 11/24/2019 at 6:44 AM, MsNewsradio said:

Not sure what the filming schedule is for this show, but Lauren Patten is currently performing in Jagged Little Pill on Broadway and it’s unlikely she’ll be available for awhile. 
 

(Highly recommend, btw - her performance of You Oughta Know blows the doors off the place) 

I believed this was filmed mid October as the show began previews.  My FB friend saw it and had the same sentiments about you about You Oughta Know, so I'm hoping to check it out soon.

As for Erin...I'm not sure what to think.  Anthony saying it was a "mid life crisis" was a stretch, but he's right in the sense that without Nicki and the on/off with Jack, what else does she have other than work and the occasional run?  She is taking it out on more people as a result. 

I didn't mind Danny's plot as much, but that was a very long way to attempt revenge.  

[iwasish]

On 11/24/2019 at 7:03 AM, JayDub said:

Nothing wrong with Erin's character other than she needs to get laid.

Jack does what he can!!

[nittany cougar]

On 11/24/2019 at 7:03 AM, JayDub said:

Nothing wrong with Erin's character other than she needs to get laid.

I think she has random hookups with her ex-husband.  There was a scene last season where Jack and Erin were in a bar and Jack said he said she still calls him when she wants him (or something like that). The implication was that they hook up sometimes.

There was also an episode this season when Anthony got mad at Erin for helping Jack and said that she drops everything when Jack calls.  I thought he was suggesting that there is still some sort of relationship between Erin and Jack.

Edited November 30, 2019 by nittanycougar

[Emma9]

The episode I started liking Frank, and probably the reason I still have a soft spot for him, was the one with the K-9 officers. So I appreciated that he corrected the tired 'pit bull' analogy.

 

On November 23, 2019 at 12:47 AM, Bazinga said:

Erin was bitchier and more full of herself then usual until Anthony set her straight.  Rinse repeat.

I hate their dynamic. They've done this dance so many before, she blows her lid at him, then later apologizes and thanks him for keeping her honest. But he really doesn't, and can't, because it's not a relationship of equals; she can throw however many tantrums she wants, and he never necessarily knows whether this is going to be the time she ends up snapping and firing him.

So you can interpret the interactions as 'Anthony secretly sighs as Erin pitches yet another fit, knowing the irrational, impulsive woman will regret the error of her ways and agree with him', or 'Anthony spends half his life on eggshells, wondering whether he's going to get sacked for giving his honest opinion'. Neither are at all pleasant.

[Katy M]

I'm one of the few people that doesn't hate Erin. But, she was absolutely insufferable and unprofessional at the beginning of the episode.  Not to mention completely unfair. And, why is she bankrolling Nicky?  Nicky moved across the country for a job.  If she wanted to help her out with some moving expenses, fine.  But, she shouldn't be supporting her. That's ridiculous.

I agree that Eddie's story was ridiculous.  She was lucky that her little plan worked the way she wanted it to. That could have really backfired on her. And, what if, I know this is a bit of a stretch, but what if the sergeant was recording her. She would have had proof that she accused Jamie of beating her!

Danny's story was good for once.  That was a fun twist.  Yeah, like someone else said, wasn't a very well thought out plan, but that doesn't make it unrealistic. Some people are stupid.  And maybe she only cared about getting him dead (punishing him) and not getting away with it herself.

I'm sick of Frank and mayors.

And, what the heck kind of allowance raise was Shawn planning to get that would even come close to paying for a trip to wherever Jack is, much less to SF?  He's old enough to get a part-time job if he's looking for that kind of money.  If we adjust my allowance (which I stopped getting at almost 16 when I started working) for inflation, he would be getting approximately $2.25 a week.  Hardly enough for these road trips even if quadrupled.

On 11/24/2019 at 7:03 AM, JayDub said:

Nothing wrong with Erin's character other than she needs to get laid.

I hate it when people say crap like that.

[iwasish]

On 12/23/2019 at 6:19 PM, Katy M said:

I'm one of the few people that doesn't hate Erin. But, she was absolutely insufferable and unprofessional at the beginning of the episode.  Not to mention completely unfair. And, why is she bankrolling Nicky?  Nicky moved across the country for a job.  If she wanted to help her out with some moving expenses, fine.  But, she shouldn't be supporting her. That's ridiculous.

I agree that Eddie's story was ridiculous.  She was lucky that her little plan worked the way she wanted it to. That could have really backfired on her. And, what if, I know this is a bit of a stretch, but what if the sergeant was recording her. She would have had proof that she accused Jamie of beating her!

Danny's story was good for once.  That was a fun twist.  Yeah, like someone else said, wasn't a very well thought out plan, but that doesn't make it unrealistic. Some people are stupid.  And maybe she only cared about getting him dead (punishing him) and not getting away with it herself.

I'm sick of Frank and mayors.

And, what the heck kind of allowance raise was Shawn planning to get that would even come close to paying for a trip to wherever Jack is, much less to SF?  He's old enough to get a part-time job if he's looking for that kind of money.  If we adjust my allowance (which I stopped getting at almost 16 when I started working) for inflation, he would be getting approximately $2.25 a week.  Hardly enough for these road trips even if quadrupled.

I hate it when people say crap like that.

It is a cliche, but the few times we’ve seen them together “the morning after” Erin acts like Scarlett O’Hara after Rhett carried her off to bed kicking and screaming. I’m kind of surprised Bridget Monaghan doesn’t argue against those scenes. She has to have some pull on the show.
I  actually like Jack, I think if Erin got off her high horse and stop expecting perfection from him they could have a good relationship.  

[CeeBeeGee]

On 11/23/2019 at 4:52 PM, mojito said:

It's a sad commentary that people have such harsh criticisms of the female characters on this and other shows. I don't know if it's a commentary of how the characters are written or how they are judged. Either way, I'm disappointed.

This is fandom, sadly. This fandom and that of SVU, the scrutiny on the women characters is insane. See also: Harry Potter, Star Wars, Game of Thrones...hell, even fans of the British royal family. The scrutiny on female royals is so much worse, like, to a granular level.