Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[ljr]

I thought the curtains in Michaels office reminded me of a Rorschach test

[tessabq]

Michael's office decor reminds me of my dentist's office in the mid-70s, and even then, I thought it looked cheap. And depressing.

[Cheyanne11]

*Checks watch*  Oh, look, here comes the Jason bus for Dex to get thrown under.  Could this show BE any more predictable? 

[jsbt]

In fairness, Dex the kinda guy I can see Aiden, Scout or James beating up while he sobs.

[Grinaldi]

If Dex goes this show will have zero male characters in Trina and Joss's age range. That would be a pretty big gap in the canvas. II also don't need to see Joss grieve another love interest this young. I guess they could bring on Stone Jr now that Jagger is back (for some reason.)

Dex will be the red herring, probably go on the run with Joss, until the culprit is revealed to be...well if we're bringing back randoms, maybe the re-animated corpse of Phil Brewer? Joe Kelly? Miranda Jax? It could be anyone.

[jsbt]

I would be happy to clean sweep out at least half the cast, so Weepin' Dex is no trouble for me.

[ljr]

I still don't understand this Tracy and Lucy deception story.what happened to Tracy's plans with Blair?  What happened with Blair?

They brought her in for one episode. Is Martin still getting alimony?

Is maxie still in debt?

[DanaK]

Just now, ljr said:

I still don't understand this Tracy and Lucy deception story.what happened to Tracy's plans with Blair?  What happened with Blair?

They brought her in for one episode. Is Martin still getting alimony?

Is maxie still in debt?

Maxie is probably still in debt or at least has money trouble but Spinelli moved in as a paying tenant to secretly help her out

Lucy wants Tracy out of Deception so the Scott scheme was to get her to fall for him (and I guess marry him) and distract her somehow to get her out of the company. 

I guess the Blair thing was used as the basis of Tracy’s lawsuit against Deception. She and Lucy made a deal to have Tracy take a controlling ownership of Deception and in return, Tracy dropped the lawsuit

[jsbt]

Didn't Maxie co-run Deception/Crimson for years? I always found that wildly implausible given that she is a notorious fuck-up, but it happened. How is she now in debt and needing freeloadin' Spinelli to stay with her?

2 hours ago, ljr said:

What happened with Blair? They brought her in for one episode. Is Martin still getting alimony?

I still don't understand what the point of that whole alimony thing was, or if Lucy and Martin ever talked about it.

Edited February 7 by jsbt

[GHScorpiosRule]

7 hours ago, Grinaldi said:

I guess they could bring on Stone Jr now that Jagger is back (for some reason.)

We already have Leo, who's autistic, right? And unless they retcon that away, Stone, Jr. had been diagnosed the same, I think, but he needed more specialized treatment, hence him showing up with Jagger in Night Shift.

Just, just...STFU, Anna! I NEVER thought I'd type those words about her. Jagger doesn't know Mooby how he is NOW? Just say Anna is Mooby's trouble shooter and she'll make sure he doesn't pay for any crimes he commits, because he's "not the same" criminal/thug/murderer/drug dealer he was.

At least Robert's disgust and contempt for him is still alive and I did like that they did have dialogue about Robert's cancer and that Jagger is still in touch with Robin. They at least have their mutual hate for Mooby and love for Robin in common. But I still can't see this guy as Jagger. Forget about Antonio. Jagger is not supposed to be a BLONDE!!!!!

And it looks like Huss is here to stay as Nik. UGH.

I did giggle at Baby Ace sticking his tongue out and smiling when Nik was saying good-bye to him, though. He's just so ADORBS!

[StaceyNotStacie]

New Jagger looks like Anna Nicole Smith’s daughter’s father. 
 

I’ve never seen Night Shift, so how old is  Stone Jr supposed to be? 

[CeChase]

I've been slowly coming the realization that Anna and Carly are a lot like, and that I may actually dislike Anna as much as I do Carly.  I really can't believe it but it's true.  I honesty can't stand her anymore, and she is also incredibly smug, when she's not whining. 

[ffwbe]

13 minutes ago, CeChase said:

I've been slowly coming the realization that Anna and Carly are a lot like, and that I may actually dislike Anna as much as I do Carly.  I really can't believe it but it's true.  I honesty can't stand her anymore, and she is also incredibly smug, when she's not whining. 

I’ve heard that Anna is Korte’s 2nd favorite character to write for behind Carly and once I heard that, a lot fell into place for me. She’s been a mess of a character since FV brought her back full time. 

[dubbel zout]

4 hours ago, DanaK said:

Lucy wants Tracy out of Deception so the Scott scheme was to get her to fall for him (and I guess marry him) and distract her somehow to get her out of the company. 

Scott and Lucy thought they could bamboozle Tracy into marrying him (as if!) and then he'd wrest control of Deception away from her and give it to Lucy. It was one of the most harebrained schemes they've come up with, and thank Jasus they didn't make Tracy stupid enough to fall for it.

2 hours ago, jsbt said:

How is [Maxie] now in debt and needing freeloadin' Spinelli to stay with her?

Maxie overspent when Deception first went public, thinking she was set for life. For some reason, Felicia and Spin thought him moving in and paying rent would help offset all of that. Considering how in debt Maxie is supposed to be, Spin's rent should barely cover the extra groceries she needs to feed him.

25 minutes ago, ffwbe said:

I’ve heard that Anna is Korte’s 2nd favorite character to write for behind Carly and once I heard that, a lot fell into place for me.

The way Anna has been written for so long hasn't been complimentary to the character at all, IMO. All tears and hair shirts and feeling hopeless. That's writing for a favorite? At least with Carly the bias is consistent and clear.

[nilyank]

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

Maxie overspent when Deception first went public, thinking she was set for life. For some reason, Felicia and Spin thought him moving in and paying rent would help offset all of that. Considering how in debt Maxie is supposed to be, Spin's rent should barely cover the extra groceries she needs to feed him.

But why is she so much in debt?

She is paying Dante rent for the house so I don’t think it is really exorbitant. Before moving into the house she was living in her apartment that she has been able to afford since she first started working as Kate’s assistant a decade ago.

She doesn’t have any huge medical bills like Lucky and Liz did when they were poor and apparently had no medical insurance.

She hasn’t sent the kids to private school.

She hasn’t had any big expenses like vacations, fancy cars, or big item expenses.

It has been years since Maxie has  wore stylish designer clothes.

Except for horse riding lessons, there seems like there is nothing that would be having her needing a handout from her parents. Especially since she would have gotten pension and insurance from Nathan who was killed in action as a police detective. And Bailey inherited Peter’s fortune.

Maxie should not be struggling. She was not taking a salary after Tracy’s sued Deception and stole the company but that was over and the Deceptor was once again in production making so much money that they could afford to pay Cody to be their male model who is looking into buying an estate with earnings.

[YaddaYadda]

2 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

We already have Leo, who's autistic, right? And unless they retcon that away, Stone, Jr. had been diagnosed the same, I think, but he needed more specialized treatment, hence him showing up with Jagger in Night Shift.

He told Olivia that his son is on the spectrum.

[Daisy]

honestly, it kinda makes sense that Maxie is in debt. you don't have to be all super fancy with the kids etc - but it all adds up. and honestly it's the sundry things that get you more than the BIG stuff. all the hair/nail appointments. the coffees, going out to dinner etc. 

what they should have done was basically make it that Maxie had shares in Aurora and she lost it all when the insider trading hit. 

[CeChase]

16 minutes ago, Daisy said:

honestly, it kinda makes sense that Maxie is in debt. you don't have to be all super fancy with the kids etc - but it all adds up. and honestly it's the sundry things that get you more than the BIG stuff. all the hair/nail appointments. the coffees, going out to dinner etc. 

what they should have done was basically make it that Maxie had shares in Aurora and she lost it all when the insider trading hit. 

Yes, that would have been the far more dramatic storyline.  I do think it's a good thing to have characters that are financially struggling.  It's the reality for most people, and it's okay to have a mix of rich, working class, and struggling families or individuals.  I am still so annoyed that they broke up working class couple Chase and Willow.  A teacher and a cop.  Now they would be a nurse and a cop.  I mean, that's good stuff if you ask me. 

[Daisy]

18 minutes ago, CeChase said:

am still so annoyed that they broke up working class couple Chase and Willow.  A teacher and a cop.  Now they would be a nurse and a cop.  I mean, that's good stuff if you ask me. 

yeah. like you usually can ignore the rich drama fluffness because there is often some real life struggles going on. it really SHOULDN'T be maxie. (honestly Chase & BLQ and WIllow and Michael should be arguing a lot about the clear class differences between them. Michael/BLQ grew up affluent. it's one thing to "like vintage" but it's another to NEEDING to buy vintage. if you get my meaning). 

[ffwbe]

There’s a bunch of people on this show who should be middle class but the show either pretends they aren’t or they had them set for life because they were married to someone with money at one time during their run and they just happened to be so magnanimous and didn’t care about hoarding their wealth like most wealthy people that they handed over a fortune. Only one person or couple is allowed to struggle at a time. Liz got the brunt of those stories for years, Jordan got one for a bit and now it’s Maxie’s turn I guess. Meanwhile all 3 of them are/were steadily employed and not dependent on some man’s money. Nice message they’re sending there

Edited February 7 by ffwbe

[Daisy]

6 minutes ago, ffwbe said:

Meanwhile all 3 of them are/were steadily employed and not dependent on some man’s money. Nice message they’re sending there

but you can be steadily employed, not dependent on a man's money and still struggle? (i will admit maybe i am not understanding your meaning but that is a realistic message to me?)

[ffwbe]

1 minute ago, Daisy said:

but you can be steadily employed, not dependent on a man's money and still struggle? (i will admit maybe i am not understanding your meaning but that is a realistic message to me?)

The message I get is that women can’t do anything for themselves. They can either be born into a wealthy family or marry a rich guy.

These types of SLs are very centered on their female characters. They didn’t do a story of working class Chase struggling when he got suspended from the force. He talked about bills for a ep or 2 until he suddenly became an overnight pop sensation. They did the same thing with Jax in the 90s- his fortune was taken by the government because it was started with mob money and a month later, he won a ton of money at a casino and suddenly had seed money to start his company back up. 

[dubbel zout]

1 hour ago, Daisy said:

what they should have done was basically make it that Maxie had shares in Aurora and she lost it all when the insider trading hit. 

And have Carly's actions hurt her super close (/s) friend? Better it's some faceless insurance scammer. Ugh. SMH.

19 minutes ago, ffwbe said:

There’s a bunch of people on this show who should be middle class

"Middle class" is a designation that no one seems to understand, given how IRL people making more than $200,00 in places that aren't especially HCOL consider themselves middle class. And even in a fairly HCOL area, $200,00 is a decent amount for a family to live on as long as you're not trying to keep up with the very rich folks.

It would definitely be more interesting to have characters at different levels of wealth, but that would require writing with nuance, which we know the show is deathly allergic to. 

[Daisy]

29 minutes ago, ffwbe said:

The message I get is that women can’t do anything for themselves. They can either be born into a wealthy family or marry a rich guy.

These types of SLs are very centered on their female characters. They didn’t do a story of working class Chase struggling when he got suspended from the force. He talked about bills for a ep or 2 until he suddenly became an overnight pop sensation. They did the same thing with Jax in the 90s- his fortune was taken by the government because it was started with mob money and a month later, he won a ton of money at a casino and suddenly had seed money to start his company back up. 

i see. I don't see it like that. because i mean. when liz had her big money struggle storyline, she was marrying Lucky - who was equally struggling. (i remember their first apartment with little squish face Cam and everything) 

I don't think Chase would have the same issues as Liz would have. (for starters he was single, where as Liz had kids. Same with Maxie). I don't see Liz (or Maxie) not doing anything for themselves, they are doing a lot. (including not really taking help when it would be beneficial) 

maybe a part of it is because for the most part women do tend to struggle financially more than men do. We make less money (On average). in this day and age women are choosing to be single mothers. (thus more financial burden). so I think to me it's good that they do show women in these situations - small social issues - with a touch of realism.

I really wouldn't expect a mother of two to go off and play high stakes poker to try to get a windfall. (and regardless if they won or loss that's a big chicken gamble right there). Where as it makes sense that a former millionaire playboy would because he has nothing to lose. 

I am pretty sure Chase was also working as a private security guard (he just hated it) which also makes a good chunk of change (as much as a detective probably not) - and again. he was independent. (where as the women are not) 

i think the fact that Liz managed to do so much while basically having crappy relationships (same with maxie), never really having to depend and never really being "super" wealthy (Liz at all) and whatever Peter had obviously isn't in play but still showing you can be head of your department and run a business (and also showing that it doesn't poof your financial issues away is great). i really don't see it as a detriment. but thanks for clarifying :)

[Pingaponga]

If they couldn't recover the bodies of Spencer and Esme, why does it look as though coffins have been buried? Is burying an empty coffin a thing?

 

[dubbel zout]

7 minutes ago, Pingaponga said:

Is burying an empty coffin a thing?

It is; it's the ritual of the funeral that's important for a lot of people.

Even knowing the BTS stuff about NAC, I can't muster an iota of sorrow for Spencer's death. I find him unpleasant most of the time, and he's been a mediocre boyfriend to Trina.

Ugh, Michael whining about having to parent his children. Shut up, you stupid little shit.

Edited February 7 by dubbel zout

[ciarra]

Trina is the new Maxie, with two dead boyfriends (so far).  Rory who? 

 

Edited February 7 by ciarra

[YaddaYadda]

13 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

It is; it's the ritual of the funeral that's important for a lot of people.

There's a whole lot of empty graves in PC. Sonny is standing in the cemetery not very far from his own empty grave, which really shows how played this dumb trope is. 

[mjt626]

As I find myself crying at the funeral for a character who is probably not dead, I can’t help but mourn for my favorite little family back in the day. I loved, Nikolas/Britt/Spencer.  They were always the right shade of grey for me.
 

Tyler’s passing makes the sadness all too real.

[ffwbe]

I think Trina should have been reminiscing with Joss and Cam today and they should have left this convo about Trina’s school plans for another day. 

 

[YaddaYadda]

I can't find it in me to feel sad, or bad. When they talk about Spencer, child Spencer gets more exposition than adult Spencer. Child Spencer was annoying and obnoxious. Adult Spencer was aimless, shallow and obnoxious. He wasn't interested in all that much outside of my brother and Trina. The character was a waste of space. He had no purpose contrary to what the show tried to tell us with that eulogy.

I'm fine with him not coming back. 

I liked the Heather scenes. 

Edited February 7 by YaddaYadda

[ffwbe]

Why isn’t it a blanket rule that Dante can’t know about the details of cases involving Sonny? He’s always feeding him info. 

[dubbel zout]

"School is meaningless now." Oh, for god's sake, Trina. You aren't ready to go back to school; fine. Take a semester off. But you're going to throw away the rest of your life over some dipshit 21-year-old boy? What happened to the young woman who had big plans for her life, regardless of how aimless Spencer was? I miss that Trina.

Alley Mills was OTT with Heather's grief, I thought. I wished she'd used it to try to escape. That feels more like Heather to me than sobbing on top of Esmé's grave.

[ffwbe]

I’m sure it’s not a popular opinion but Ava’s been irking me lately. There’s no reason for her to still be living at Sonny’s. There technically was never a reason if we’d being honest because if Son t was being written true to character, he’d just hire her a bodyguard.

But it’s gotten even worse now that he’s icing out her supposed friend Nina and she’s glued to his side. My mom even thought they were a couple because they’re constantly together and were standing next to each other today. 
 

I’ve just been getting the vibes for awhile that she’s so happy to not be the town pariah anymore and Sonny/Carly’s enemy that she’s relishing being in that toxic inner circle. There’s no reason for her to suddenly be so chummy with them even for Avery’s sake. 

[ComeWhatMay]

For me, Tyler will always be Nik. I wish the show chose differently, ie restoring the character and with a suitable recast (fine actors in the age range would welcome the work I imagine) or retiring Nik altogether. I muted Huss on X because I find some of his postings simply off putting. I do understand he wants to be there and is obvious about it which is not the case for some and it’s noticeable. Work for better or make your life better by moving on. Working actors are the lucky ones. 

I do still hope Ace as a Cassadine is erased by PM’s pen or at the very least his name changed. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

5 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

He told Olivia that his son is on the spectrum.

I must have missed that. Probably in the episode I deleted. But it begs the question (for me at least) why would Jagger tell Oliva anything? Did they retcon that they know each other? Blech.

[ffwbe]

Michael seems like the type who thinks it’s babysitting when he’s taking care of his own children. It’s clear that Willow and their nanny have been doing the lion’s share of the work 

[JMO]

I thought the cemetery scene with the voiceover eulogy was a creative way to condense the episode.  Appreciated Kevin and Liz thinking of Esme, didn't understand Heather's diatribe toward Kevin, but that's Heather.  

It was good to see Cam.  I don't know that he'll be on screen longer than today, but if he is, I hope we'll get more of him with his mother. and his brothers.  I applaud WL's focus on his education, but will also applaud if he decides to come back for a longer stint at some point.  The teen/young adult generation is pretty underrepresented on GH right now.  

I'm enjoying Gregory's story much more than I expected to, mostly because it has become about living while dying, and not just about dying.  GH (the actor) has been playing his scenes with a deceptively elegant touch.  I don't think either ME or JS are quite up to it, but NLG and JE are, which makes me treasure those encounters.  It won't surprise me if Finn ends up finding a curable alternative diagnosis, but until or unless that happens, I will appreciate the gift they're giving us.

[Cheyanne11]

13 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I must have missed that. Probably in the episode I deleted. But it begs the question (for me at least) why would Jagger tell Oliva anything? Did they retcon that they know each other? Blech.

No.  It was because Jagger saw Leo and recognized that he was on the spectrum and was talking to him.  Olivia came in and saw them and wanted to know why he was talking to her son and Jagger told her about Stone Jr.

[dubbel zout]

33 minutes ago, JMO said:

I thought the cemetery scene with the voiceover eulogy was a creative way to condense the episode. 

I agree, and it didn't seem forced either.

[GHScorpiosRule]

1 hour ago, Cheyanne11 said:

No.  It was because Jagger saw Leo and recognized that he was on the spectrum and was talking to him.  Olivia came in and saw them and wanted to know why he was talking to her son and Jagger told her about Stone Jr.

Ah. Thanks. I deleted that episode so no wonder I was side eyeing Olivia.😆

But I wish Emma had been there at the funeral.

[Bringonthedrama]

5 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

"School is meaningless now." Oh, for god's sake, Trina. You aren't ready to go back to school; fine. Take a semester off. But you're going to throw away the rest of your life over some dipshit 21-year-old boy? What happened to the young woman who had big plans for her life, regardless of how aimless Spencer was? I miss that Trina.

Alley Mills was OTT with Heather's grief, I thought. 

I had the same reaction to Trina saying she can never go back to Paris and school has no meaning. I think the grief is more about the future they won't have in Paris, than their brief relationship. Yes, I know, they were in love - but they spent very little time together being a couple without dramaaa. Elizabeth was younger than Trina is now when she thought Lucky died in a fire and didn't try to refuse to go to school after they spent a lot of time together, in love, and talking about their future. 

I agree, Heather's ranting and getting in the dirt made me roll my eyes. Why did that guard let her get so close to Kevin? She could have hurt him if she managed to get a weapon on her person while walking to the cemetery. Screaming at Kevin about how awful his actions have been and her line "They say I'm a criminal?" really turned me off. Um yeah, lady, you murdered their GH colleague not to mention a PCPD officer and Brando (Sonny's cousin). 

William Lipton/Cam was the highlight of the episode for me. His moment with GF/Laura was touching. It was nice of Finn and Gregory to be there to support Elizabeth, Cam and Alexis, but all I could think was Lucky should be there. I also don't understand why Charlotte didn't make an appearance, or Molly. I remember Spencer mentioning coordinating with Charlotte to get Laura and Kevin's home ready for Ace, and Laura told Spencer on-screen when Charlotte got shot. 

Has anyone told Taggert that his daughter is devastated thinking her boyfriend is dead?  I'm really annoyed that Hat Daddy came to the memorial with Curtis and Portia, but Taggert isn't there to comfort Trina. UGH...

ETA: The other highlight of the episode was the gut wrenching but sweet father/son scene, ending with Gregory hugging Finn. 

Edited February 8 by Bringonthedrama

[Mirabelle]

5 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

There's a whole lot of empty graves in PC. Sonny is standing in the cemetery not very far from his own empty grave, which really shows how played this dumb trope is. 

Does the PC Cemetery have a buy back program? 

"I heard your dead spouse came back to life. Are you planning on keeping his plot in the cemetery? We'd be happy to buy back the space at a very good price! We also have a headstone recycling program. We can grind out the date of death and you can later reuse it when he dies for real."

[Artsda]

Why wasn't Martin there for his sister if Cyrus was?  Molly? Valentine? Charlotte? Even Dex?  They have Kristina there and she didn't speak.  

Nice having Cam back for the funeral. 

Kevin maybe should be more guilty he barely was shown involved much with Esme.  Spencer and Nik are at fault for kidnapping that baby that set Esme off and Kevin should be angry and point that out.

 

[TVbitch]

Wow, Kevin really went all out on that name plate for Esme. It looked like he printed it off his computer and laminated it. 🤣 Just teasing, Kevin. Love you! 

I swear I will take back every bitchy thing I've ever said about Brick if he finds out that Michael was plotting against Sonny and tattles on him. 

Edited February 8 by TVbitch

[JMO]

While I would have appreciated seeing it on screen, I suspect we were supposed to think Kevin and Esme developed a relationship during the time she and Ace were living with him and Laura.

[Grinaldi]

I get the whole grave marker for an empty grave thing but why did they have to dig a hole?

[Mirabelle]

PC Cemetery probably offers a "No body available" package that's 2/3 cheaper than one with an actual occupied casket. They cut costs by only digging a foot deep and not actually burying anything. That would make it easier to resell or reuse the plot at a later date. 

Edited February 8 by Mirabelle

[jsbt]

I honestly don't have much of a problem with finding out Maxie is once again a fuck-up struggling to make ends meet. She's been like that for most of her adult life IMO and I never bought that she would become some major executive, let alone have multiple children so young. It made much more sense to me when Ron Carlivati had Georgie II foisted off on her parents or Spinelli, etc. That's true to who Maxie is until the writing for her considerably improves to make me buy her maturing as a woman, which it hasn't in over a decade. What I objected to more was the crazy whipsaws from flighty loser to like, CEO or whatever and now back.

19 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

The way Anna has been written for so long hasn't been complimentary to the character at all, IMO. All tears and hair shirts and feeling hopeless. That's writing for a favorite? At least with Carly the bias is consistent and clear.

I think the writing for Anna for a long time has been a combination of two things: One, the show wanting to make sure fans know fan favorite Anna is cool with Sonny, etc. and therefore you should be too, and two, Finola seems to enjoy the really soppy vulnerable material they give her, feeling it gives the character more nuance beyond a superwoman.

I can understand that actor's consideration and could understand some of that behavior in the original Robin saga in 2012-2013, but she's just been turning on the waterworks way too much ever since. One of the best scenes Anna ever had after coming back on contract was when RM's Heather tried to put her over a barrel for Robin's whereabouts with a deal after kidnapping Luke, and Anna flatly and quietly said no, we won't be doing that and pulled a gun on her. She told her she'd killed a lot of people in her career and that Heather had two choices: Talk or die. Heather chose Door #1. That's Anna to me.

Edited February 8 by jsbt

[lala2]

I understand they are not popular here but I like Trina and Sprina. They were a cute pairing to me. And as someone with a law degree, I have no issue with Trina’s current feelings. 

Spencer just died. Esme just tried to murder her. Trina is traumatized, devastated, and depressed right now. She wanted a life with Spencer. This wasn’t some crush or insignificant relationship. She loved him. He loved her. The world was their oyster as they say. They wanted a life together. Now, he’s dead. Unexpectedly and violently. She needs time to process all that. It’s unrealistic to think she would just brush off his death and continue at the Sorbonne or just keep going to her classes at PCU. An unexpected young death can make ppl question life and if school is pointless. 

That said, I doubt Trina will continue feeling this way. She’s too motivated. This is how she feels now though, and that’s ok, IMO. She’s allowed to feel school is pointless after losing someone she loved and almost losing her life too. That’s a valid thought. I am fine with them exploring that angle. 

Anyway, the guy just died. If she’s still in a severe funk six months down the road, then I would say she should get in therapy but it’s been a week or two. I’ll give her some grace to process and figure it out. But I do like the character (and liked the pairing) so that probably impacts my view though I would probably feel the same if Dex violently died in front of Josslyn. I wouldn’t expect her to brush it off and say, “That sucks but I have that organic chem test tomorrow so I gotta study.” lol

Edited February 8 by lala2