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On 2/15/2025 at 5:34 PM, KerleyQ said:

I hope that, if Ava tries to go at Liz and stake her claim to Ric, Liz just laughs and says "oh, don't worry, you can have him.  Just be careful if he prepares your drinks or meals." 

Except Jordan, but, well, that's absolutely not his fault. 

😂🤣🤭Especially on the Ric, Liz part

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I’m in Canada and found out last night that the CityTV app, where I could watch the show in the evening, no longer exists and the new app (CityTV+) doesn’t give me access to watch even if I subscribe to the channel with my provider.

I hate having my watching choices taken away and refuse to subscribe to Prime, to then be allowed to pay for CityTV+ (you can’t subscribe as a stand alone).

Since I’ll be watching Beyond The Gates at 2 pm as of next week, I guess my GH pause will be longer than expected.

I will miss interacting with you GH watchers a lot, but will still follow.

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On 2/15/2025 at 8:45 PM, boes said:

Doesn't Jens Sidwell - at least his Port Charles energy - remind anyone else of Barney?  

Dance Dancing GIF by Mola TV Kids
He's so ..... bubbly. 

I can totally see him singing an updated version of the Barney song.

I hate you,
You hate me,
We're a muderous family.

Seems to me that Noted Bigot Natalia really missed her chance.

Hmm, I've been thinking about the Vintage Ham category of soap villains, myself. And so far, Sidwell [AKA Former Canadian TV guy] doesn't qualify--not for want of trying...maybe he could watch some tapes of Joe Mascolo who truly brought the Parma.

Sidwell so far is generic pre-packaged salami.

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2 hours ago, Desperado said:

Since I’ll be watching Beyond The Gates at 2 pm as of next week, I guess my GH pause will be longer than expected.

You can't record? Because that's what I'm doing. I'm going to record Beyond the Gates, see if I like it and I'll watch GH, even though I'm mostly hate watching.

Fuck Prime and Amazon and I never used the CityTV app for anything.

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2 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

You can't record? Because that's what I'm doing. I'm going to record Beyond the Gates, see if I like it and I'll watch GH, even though I'm mostly hate watching.

Fuck Prime and Amazon and I never used the CityTV app for anything.

I no longer have recording equipment. I could subscribe to TekSavvy’s PVR option (I use their streaming TV service) but I’m not sure it’s worth it to record one show that doesn’t thrill me. It was the only show I continuously watched live and this forum had a lot to do with that.

I’ll see if I can complain to CityTV, it’s a new setup so maybe they’ll be room for improvement.

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25 minutes ago, Desperado said:

I no longer have recording equipment. I could subscribe to TekSavvy’s PVR option (I use their streaming TV service) but I’m not sure it’s worth it to record one show that doesn’t thrill me. It was the only show I continuously watched live and this forum had a lot to do with that.

I’ll see if I can complain to CityTV, it’s a new setup so maybe they’ll be room for improvement.

If you have decent OTA reception, there is Tablo. Their newest dvr doesn't require a subscription, so it's $99 and done. I believe they are even a Canadian company. (For some people that matters right now.)

I've had one for years and it's paid for itself many times over. 

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LOL that Mac says "With all due respect" to Anna and Martin says the same thing to Willow in the same episode. It is difficult to not flat out tell Willow she's very naive/an idiot. Mac deserves better than to listen to her whine.

I liked the Mac-Sasha scene because I've hardly seen that adorable sweetness from Mac since Robin and Emma left town.  I assume the brief Jason/Mac/Sasha interaction was supposed to remind the audience of when young Robin was falling in love with Jason.  I felt so bad for Mac when he saw Sasha kiss Jason. Putting on a show that way for Willow was stupid.

Elizabeth looks gorgeous and it was interesting to see her behave like Jason was an old friend, like there was never an attraction or emotional investment whatsoever. I LOVED seeing her present evidence to Anna and Anna's remark about Lucky was unnecessary. See Anna, this is what looks like when someone is actually working to build a case. Too bad civilians are doing your job for you since you can't be bothered.

Sonny gets cards from his daughters and Carly is fixated about the possibility of Jason getting with Sasha, Trina gets dressed up for a night out with a guy, Joss gets out a gun, and a killer leaves his cabin armed with a syringe of digitalis meant for Elizabeth. Happy Valentine's Day!  This. Show.

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2 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Sonny gets cards from his daughters and Carly is fixated about the possibility of Jason getting with Sasha

But typical and par for the course with Cujo.

Oh so Sasha pretty much did the same thing with Jason that she did with Chase? Again, for Willow to “see” proof of Sasha and Jason banging and Chase’s infidelity?

Never change, Frank/Korte and whoever.

I saw the previews for Beyond the Gates, and sorry, but it reminded me of Indian soaps that are sooo over melodramatic and cheesy.

But Hey, it’s got to be better than what we already have, so go for it for those that want to watch. It looks like going back to the 80s with the cat fights, slaps. Maybe hair pulling? Dunno.

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12 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Oh so Sasha pretty much did the same thing with Jason that she did with Chase? Again, for Willow to “see” proof of Sasha and Jason banging and Chase’s infidelity?

Sasha being in a state of panic that Elaine will figure out Michael is the father by doing the math based on her due date is absurd. Yes, someone could calculate that oh, baby was conceived around the time Michael found out his wife kissed Drew. But it's not like anyone they knew saw them in the bar together, saw them at the hotel, etc. The only moments so far that would draw attention to Michael as the possible father is a) Sasha being so deeply upset in front of Maxie and Felicia upon finding out Michael was injured and b) Sasha crying and appearing to be in despair outside Michael's hospital room when he was sedated and c) Sasha being so hostile/ judgmental toward Willow regarding Michael and his children.

I think Maxie will figure it out and confront her sooner rather than later.

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Laura: Curtis, "I know you're a really good businessman..." Laura, I thought you were smarter than that.

Why would Sonny having to move his coffee warehouse be "a huge blow"? Is it a public museum now?

Why does Congressman Drew get to decide where the McClintock Esplanade goes and not the mayor of the city?  Why is a congressional committee deciding on it? Is that an American thing? And surely saying that the city would have to pay extra to put in the infrastructure and  public transport to the pier location should be enough.

Kai, taking Trina to her father's club is not the romantic swerve you think it is.

Why are Joss and Trina terrible cooks? They're both intelligent women (allegedly), surely they can follow a recipe for a pasta dish. Do they order in every night that a family member doesn't give them food?

Having Felicia go on and on about how a patient said Willow was just such a wonderful nurse is very lazy writing.

What did Willow expect, leaving her beloved car in the Quartermaine garage? How is she getting to work if the nanny is using the minivan for the kids?

Sasha to Jason: "What happens if they arrest you?" Jason:"Diane gets me out.: Seriously show? Zzzzzz

Also bad writing: Sasha telling Jason that Willow thinks that Michael is the father of her baby.  If Elaine really thought so, she wouldn't have told Sasha that she's a PI working on a case.

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It's gross that everyone is acting as if 50/50 custody for Avery is somehow settling. Carly was more sanguine than I expected, though Avery isn't her kid.

"What about dessert?" "Well, we're not professional chefs." Good grief, Trina, you can't manage a one-bowl brownie recipe? Chocolate chip cookies? No one is expecting you to make a Paris-Brest pastry.

1 minute ago, statsgirl said:

Kai, taking Trina to her father's club is not the romantic swerve you thinks it is.

He doesn't know Curtis owns the club. Heh. I have a hard time believing the Savoy is "the hottest club in town," though I doubt the competition is fierce.

16 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

See Anna, this is what looks like when someone is actually working to build a case. Too bad civilians are doing your job for you since you can't be bothered.

Seriously. Anna seems extremely reluctant having to do her job here. Elizabeth is telling her what to do, FFS. When Girl Detective is doing more than the PCPD, you know things are bad. 

Anna calling Elizabeth "Detective Baldwin" was a bit much. Way to be a sore loser that someone beat you to finding actual clues.

3 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Sasha being in a state of panic that Elaine will figure out Michael is the father by doing the math based on her due date is absurd.

It is, but it also makes sense from Sasha's POV. She's working overtime that no one find out Michael is the father, so she's hypersensitive about anyone having any sort of idea.

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28 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Seriously. Anna seems extremely reluctant having to do her job here. Elizabeth is telling her what to do, FFS. When Girl Detective is doing more than the PCPD, you know things are bad. 

Anna calling Elizabeth "Detective Baldwin" was a bit much. Way to be a sore loser that someone beat you to finding actual clues.

Anna threw Girl Detective in jail for investigating Cyrus. Meanwhile she is not discouraging of Liz investigating with Lucky. That makes no sense to me especially as we know that Cyrus is fixated on blaming Liz for everything. I wonder if those scenes were originally intended for Liz and Lucky to present the evidence to Anna (or Lucky alone) and JJ was unable to film those scenes. Because Anna was way more accepting about what Liz had to say than that of Girl Detective.*

*Girl Detective is just not as fun as Girl Reporter.

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21 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Why does Congressman Drew get to decide where the McClintock Esplanade goes

McKonkey. McClintock is a John Wayne character!😉

22 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Why is a congressional committee deciding on it? Is that an American thing?

It’s a soap opera thing. Just like Drew having any power to sway or make things happen since he has no political contacts and is a Freshman who hasn’t bothered to go to DC, get a staff and actually, you know l, attend meetings or whatnot. Of course it will be explained he did all that offscreen.🙄🙄🙄🙄

24 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Sasha telling Jason that Willow thinks that Michael is the father of her baby.  If Elaine really thought so, she wouldn't have told Sasha that she's a PI working on a case.

Haven’t watched yet so confused about this? Does she think Willow hired Elaine? Well we know her lawyer did-but not with the suspicion that she thinks Sasha’s spawn is the SLS’s.

6 minutes ago, nilyank said:

I wonder if those scenes were originally intended for Liz and Lucky to present the evidence to Anna (or Lucky alone) and JJ was unable to film those scenes.

I think they were both going to go to Anna. Lucky had said to Elizabeth a couple weeks ago that “they” should take what they found to Anna.

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1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I saw the previews for Beyond the Gates, and sorry, but it reminded me of Indian soaps that are sooo over melodramatic and cheesy.

 

it seems to me they are going for the Passions route of just being 'typical' soap - over the top, and cheesy, and catering to people who want a predominate black show to watch. my hope because it is a new soap it does have strong writing etc. so it can last and hopefully spawn new soaps (since the whole "Talk Shows" era of daytime keeps failing (as it should). 

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Loved Liz schooling Anna with all the evidence that Anna should have been collecting herself and suggesting Anna do X, Y, and Z to follow up. Pretty soon Anna will need someone to cut her meat, cuz girl has become totally useless. 

Had to laugh at Carly's whatchutalkin'boutWillis? face when Sonny suggested she butt out of Jason's business. Having said that, Sonny only stays out of Jason's business ...cuz it's not about Sonny. 

 

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47 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I think Maxie will figure it out and confront her sooner rather than later.

Unfortunately Maxie is staying out of taking sides. It's too bad because Sasha does need someone to lay out some hard truths for her, especially that the dreaded "joint custody" isn't really bad.

32 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

He doesn't know Curtis owns the club. Heh. I have a hard time believing the Savoy is "the hottest club in town," though I doubt the competition is fierce.

I guess there isn't really that much choice. Bobbie's or Charlie's are not special, the Brown Dog is worse, and the Metro Court or the place Cyrus works are too stuffy.

18 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Haven’t watched yet so confused about this? Does she think Willow hired Elaine? Well we know her lawyer did-but not with the suspicion that she thinks Sasha’s spawn is the SLS’s.

Elaine was so grateful to Sasha for helping Mavis <eyeroll> that she told Sasha that she was a PI working on a case. As far as Sasha knows, it could be a completely different case. It's the Carly Syndrome, thinking that everything is about her. (We know that it is in this case but Sasha doesn't.) Now Sasha thinks that Elaine will figure out that Michael is the father (????) based on knowing Sasha's due date.

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5 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Elaine was so grateful to Sasha for helping Mavis <eyeroll> that she told Sasha that she was a PI working on a case. As far as Sasha knows, it could be a completely different case. It's the Carly Syndrome, thinking that everything is about her. (We know that it is in this case but Sasha doesn't.) Now Sasha thinks that Elaine will figure out that Michael is the father (????) based on knowing Sasha's due date

I know all that, but your comment that I quoted stated Willow knew, and then Elaine.

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10 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I know all that, but your comment that I quoted stated Willow knew, and then Elaine.

My bad. Sasha thinks that Willow will figure it out based on the fact that she [Sasha] told Elaine her real due date, so they have to go public with Jason being the baby's father.

Because babies are always born exactly 38 weeks after conception. And there is no one else Sasha could possibly have slept with except Michael.

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1 hour ago, nilyank said:

Anna threw Girl Detective in jail for investigating Cyrus. Meanwhile she is not discouraging of Liz investigating with Lucky. That makes no sense to me especially as we know that Cyrus is fixated on blaming Liz for everything

Girl detective broke into Cyrus’ room in search of evidence. Liz and lucky merely went through his trash, which is public property. And I don’t think Anna knows Cyrus is fixated on Liz

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My heart sank when Mac saw Sasha and Jason kissing and he started saying, "No, no, no, no, no!" I agree with the sentiment but these are people in their 30s and 50s. There's nothing Mac can do here, even with his somewhat misguided sense to protect Sasha. Let them be idiots and deal with the fallout on their own.

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Sasha thinks Willow suspects based on the PI? Sasha is idiot. Plus Michael wants joint custody, Willow wants join custody.  This is not Sasha's business. Jason thinks Michael will lose his kids, how is this losing Michael his kids? 

Sasha does not want her kid raised there, but she lives there and tries to make Willow kids there. 

Drew can be Cyrus next victim or Sidwell. 

Laura should know Diane will not allow the warehouse to be taken. 

Anna investigation is having others give her evidence? And tell her how to investigate? Anna does what? Liz seems to be smarter. Anna seems more in rush to save Jason than Cyrus next victim. 

Tracy having Willow car out on street is pathetic. Then she wants willow to 

 

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7 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Haven’t watched yet so confused about this? Does she think Willow hired Elaine? Well we know her lawyer did-but not with the suspicion that she thinks Sasha’s spawn is the SLS’s.

She assumes so. Since Elaine admitted that Sasha is a person of interest in an investigation and Sasha offered up her due date before that, she believes that Willow suspects Michael is the father and will use that info in court to get full custody of the kids. Jason agrees that Michael could lose his kids if Willow found out and he is determined to protect Michael, so he said do what you need to do. The only positive thing about the very awkward kiss scene in the police station was Anna getting her fee-fees hurt after all the time she has spent with Jason. 

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I'm unclear on more than a few things, but this one is a headbanger.  So both Sasha and Willow are determined not to let "the Quartermaines" run their lives and take their children.  But what Quartermaines?  Edward, Alan, AJ, Emily and various other Quartermaines are dead, so who do they mean, other than Traci?  Surely not Monica, and I can't imagine Ned or Olivia care all that much, so who?

So to get away from the evil, controlling Quartermaines, even though the guy that fathered their children is himself a Quartermaine, they run for protection to ..... Drew Quartermaine and his brother Jason??

Tis a puzzle.

As is any writer thinking having the trials of poor Willow now involved a towed car.

Quelle dommage!

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10 hours ago, TVbitch said:

Loved Liz schooling Anna with all the evidence that Anna should have been collecting herself and suggesting Anna do X, Y, and Z to follow up. Pretty soon Anna will need someone to cut her meat, cuz girl has become totally useless. 

There's little evidence that Anna used to be a "super spy." Quite the contrary, when her parents dropped Little Anna off at spy school, I think she slipped out the back door shortly afterward.

Malcolm Scorpio for the win today! Loved his little conversation with Anna today where he firmly stated everyone's life would be better if Cyrus was dead, dead, dead. So far, he's the only one that gets it. Then he backed off.  Me sad.

Alexis' conversation with Jasus last week about Cyrus made less sense to me the more I think about it.

First, her grief should have her wanting Cyrus gone in the worst possible way. The whole Danny thing was ridiculous for a number of reasons. First: Danny knows what his Dad does for a living and wouldn't be shocked if Jasus offed Cyrus. 

Second: The "what Sam would want" spin was bogus. Samantha McCall would want Cyrus dead if he harmed someone close to her, not in prision. 

Third: Most baddies in Port Chuckles end up taking Dirt Naps anyways. Would Danny really care how it happened?

Clearly I've spent too much time thinking about this.

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3 hours ago, boes said:

I'm unclear on more than a few things, but this one is a headbanger.  So both Sasha and Willow are determined not to let "the Quartermaines" run their lives and take their children.  But what Quartermaines?  Edward, Alan, AJ, Emily and various other Quartermaines are dead, so who do they mean, other than Traci?  Surely not Monica, and I can't imagine Ned or Olivia care all that much, so who?

Michael most recently did it to Nelle re: Wiley. Tracy seemed more than willing to do it to Willow in his name. But you're right, like the Thanksgiving pizza, it's time to let this tired trope go. 

With different actors, it might be fun to watch a rivalry form between Willow and Sasha for Michael's attention. But right now they're all so bland.  

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10 hours ago, Artsda said:

Sasha thinks Willow suspects based on the PI? Sasha is idiot. Plus Michael wants joint custody, Willow wants join custody.  This is not Sasha's business. Jason thinks Michael will lose his kids, how is this losing Michael his kids? 

They're just trying to conjure a custody battle when there is no need for one. 

What will these characters ever do if they aren't fighting over their children? 

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7 hours ago, Winston Wolfe said:

The whole Danny thing was ridiculous for a number of reasons. First: Danny knows what his Dad does for a living and wouldn't be shocked if Jasus offed Cyrus. 

Danny would feel guilty because Jason "saved" him from Cyrus at Charlie's. Danny's emotional state is already in turmoil because of Sam's death, so I can believe he'd think Cyrus's death at Jason's hand was his (Danny's) fault. 

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Good news!

I’m able to watch on demand episodes through the CityTV site as it recognizes my provider credentials, instead of the Apple TV CityTV app that doesn’t.

Will still email support to tell them their app sucks because I’m not a fan of watching on a laptop.

As for the show, guess we’re two seconds away from Carly/Sonny Part 77.

Sigh.

What really hurts is that Sonny made more sense during their convo than he has in a long time.

Which is totally the contrary of the stupid Jason/Sasha ploy to “protect the baby from the Quartermaines” as if they were worse than a mob killer.

Make it stop.

I enjoy Liz much more when she’s doing shenanigans than when she’s “Nurse Baldwin”.

 

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19 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

My heart sank when Mac saw Sasha and Jason kissing and he started saying, "No, no, no, no, no!" I agree with the sentiment but these are people in their 30s and 50s. There's nothing Mac can do here, even with his somewhat misguided sense to protect Sasha. Let them be idiots and deal with the fallout on their own.

It is supposed to make us invested in this storyline and care about poor Sasha, sacrificing herself for Michael, or make us root for Sasha and Jason as a couple, both losing the father/mother of their children and finding love with each other now.

And you know what, writers? I DON'T CARE.

3 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Danny would feel guilty because Jason "saved" him from Cyrus at Charlie's. Danny's emotional state is already in turmoil because of Sam's death, so I can believe he'd think Cyrus's death at Jason's hand was his (Danny's) fault. 

As well, Jason would be in jail, or he would if there was any real justice on this show. Then Danny would have lost both his mother and his father

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Carly's 3 DECADES LONG obsession with Jason's love life...*throws up hands*

You know, if I didn't hate the character, I might be sorry for her. This is pathetic and humiliating.

All the men that Carly has gone through in those 30 years .... it really is pathetic that she is still so obsessed with Jason's love life and "saving him". She would drop Brennan like a hot potato if she saw something that she could do for Jason.

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13 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

All the men that Carly has gone through in those 30 years .... it really is pathetic that she is still so obsessed with Jason's love life and "saving him". She would drop Brennan like a hot potato if she saw something that she could do for Jason.

And yet...I love that Jason is Carly's white whale. She wins in absolutely every other arena of her life; it's supremely satisfying to me that Jason will always be the One She'll Never Have. She came so close to having him after they got married, and then Sonny returns and ruins it! I could not be happier.

The downside to her obsession with Jason is that she expects any man in her life to understand he (the man in her life) will always come in second to Jason, and the men basically accept it! I know it's the only way they can make a romance with Carly work, but that's the pathetic part of the whole mess for me. In Jason's favor is that he's never asked Carly to make him a priority. And we all know the only reason he tolerates her is because of Michael, which at this point seems dumb. Michael is an adult (supposedly™ Silas Clay forever) and has his own relationship with Jason apart from Carly. But Jason is loyal to a fault. A huge fault, when it comes to Carly.

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Hey @GHScorpiosRule for your sanity, do not watch today. For some reason JJ was unavailable for this "Valentine's Day" episode and maybe a few more (?) so they have a temp re-cast for Lucky, who years ago the Show hired to play young Luke in flashbacks. It was beyond awkward (although BHerbst was trying her best) to see Aiden and his boyfriend surprise Elizabeth and notLucky! with a V-day cake. I turned it off.

The one part I watched/thought was well done was the nuLulu and Dante conversation about the kids. The actors are playing it so I can see that their characters still love each other. Dante getting playful regarding the cupcakes she brought for Rocco and the two of them being cute together, inching just slightly in the direction of more-than-co-parents territory. 

 

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6 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Hey @GHScorpiosRule for your sanity, do not watch today. For some reason JJ was unavailable for this "Valentine's Day" episode and maybe a few more (?) so they have a temp re-cast for Lucky, who years ago the Show hired to play young Luke in flashbacks. It was beyond awkward (although BHerbst was trying her best) to see Aiden and his boyfriend surprise Elizabeth and notLucky! with a V-day cake. I turned it off.

Yeah, @jsbt gave me the heads up in the media thread and I had my own temper tantrum over it. Like Frank couldn't WAIT until JJ was available to do this? He's a right bastard.

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Looks like someone heard the complaints that Lulu is too obsessed with Charlotte and neglecting the child she has right there with her.

Anna has really been ruined -- now she is pleading with Jason not to murder Cyrus but instead to let her do her job and arrest him if she is to have any credibility as police commissioner with her staff.

If I were spending Valentine's Day at the Savoy and the special guest singer was Chase, I'd be pretty disappointed.

13 hours ago, boes said:

As is any writer thinking having the trials of poor Willow now involved a towed car.

Quelle dommage!

To move out of the  gatehouse and still leaver her car there, expecting the Quartermaines to take care of it for her for when she wants is just screams "entitlement" to me. Willow really is a fool.

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8 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Yeah, @jsbt gave me the heads up in the media thread and I had my own temper tantrum over it. Like Frank couldn't WAIT until JJ was available to do this? He's a right bastard.

Yep. But what Elizabeth will remember about Valentine's Day is Cyrus showing up at her front door when she was alone in the house after notLucky! foolishly left. 

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I feel bad for all the LL fans who were waiting for their first kiss only for it to happen with a recast. And it looks like she'll be rescued by temp Lucky too. He also looked a lot like Jacob Young. 

Carly Spencer! Brave and strong, needs to be saved by men from kidnappers, killers, bankruptcy, jail . . . and pipes! 

Lulu, no self-awareness. A real Spencer. Yes, you have a living son and you haven't bothered asking him anything about his life. Job well done!

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Brennan just strolls into Carly's house without knocking? Even Sonny knocked yesterday. LOL that Donna and Avery left the cookie cleanup to Carly. 

Of course Carly is impressed with a bouquet of red roses, the most generic Valentine's Day gift on the planet.

Oh, FFS, they gave Mac a migraine over Jason and Sasha? They are so not worth it. And way to treat Mac so shabbily. TFGH.

Rocco outgrew pink frosting and sprinkles, Lulu? Really? Way to gender shame. (Is that what I mean?) And if you think your son needs a better mom, be a better mom to your son. Spend time with him. Talk to him. Let him know he matters. 

It's cute that Anna thinks she has the respect of her officers. And I doubt Jason would think that if he killed Cyrus no one would think Anna had any involvement. That's the second thing everyone would think, after pegging him as the killer. What is this writing? It's even stupider than usual.

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So even with all the new evidence LIZ provided, and a warrant imminent, and knowing he is a serial killer, Anna is still not even having Cyrus tailed. But she has time to try to convince Jason that they have some very special connection for an hour. Good Lord she is pathetic. 

I hope people at the Savoy did not pay an extra cover charge for that. 

I think the Lucky temp did his best, but alls I could think about Liz/Lucky scenes was how pissed @GHScorpiosRule would be. 🤣 With that hair, he was kind of giving me James at 15 vibes! 

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This is more an observation than a complaint, because I know show management needs to do what it needs to do to keep the lights on.  But a short term recast pops the bubble of suspended disbelief faster than anything else, and reminds me that none of this is real.  Of course, I should already know that from how stupid it's been lately, but then our collective current reality has been giving it some good competition.  

Loved the ease and honesty of old married couple Felicia and Mac.  Loved the ease and honesty of once-married couple Lulu and Dante.  Would have loved the ease and honesty of once-married couple Liz and Lucky, but....  Do you think they might recreate the kiss for flashbacks, once JJ is back?

Hate the absolute ruination of my girl Anna.  She still has no one to go home to, apparently, even with Emma back in town, and she needs to have a life outside work.  Also---do you think the writers will reconcile her concern about the image of special treatment for her friend Jason with her apparent lack of concern about the image of special treatment for her friend Sonny?  

Carly is always worried about the safety of her family, but leaves the back door unlocked.  Right.

 

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46 minutes ago, TVbitch said:

I think the Lucky temp did his best, but alls I could think about Liz/Lucky scenes was how pissed @GHScorpiosRule would be. 🤣

Fortunately it seems he will only be in three more episodes at the most, so I think the real drama and romance will be with JJ back in the role very soon.

I wonder if it was meant to be underwhelming - just the cake their son made and talking about Cyrus to start out. I hope we'll get to see JJ's Lucky ask Elizabeth out on a real date and they go from there.

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On 2/17/2025 at 4:57 PM, nilyank said:

Previews for tomorrow's show have Chase in the shower and telling someone if they would like to join him. Presumedly he is talking to BLQ. Who wants to take a bet that BLQ will join but she will be dressed in her robe and long nightgown for the entire scene?

I am quoting myself so I wasn't that off. BLQ didn't join Chase but was in a robe and her pajamas. It was short thigh high pajama set  so that was more revealing than I expected.

8 minutes ago, JMO said:

Do you think they might recreate the kiss for flashbacks, once JJ is back?

They should as they would want to show the kiss flashback and they can't if they don't reshoot the scene with JJ.

Chase was the secret musical guest? The only one who was excited was BLQ. Maybe it is a good thing if Curtis doesn't come back to the Savoy full time if that was the act that he booked on one of the biggest night of the year.

Ugh to Lucas not exploring something with the model. There is nothing wrong with sex and one night stand. 

I can't with Anna and her neediness with Jason. At least she didn't mention the kiss with Sasha.

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Styling Aiden as an Oompa Loompa from 1994 today was a bold choice.

I've said it before, but I'm mildly stunned they got lil' Charlie Besso, a reasonably famous influencer/boyfriend to the stars, to play Tobias a.k.a. Aiden's George Glass. For all of his two lines. He's a little too big for this show. But I still don't particularly care about these two, because the Aiden situation still feels so strange to me re: its treatment on the show.

Guy Wilson has clearly had a rough few years and looks like he just escaped the Indigo Girls, and it was terrible of them to let a sub play these LNL2 scenes. It's also unfortunately a common practice for GH in recent years with key scenes going to temp subs (Michael, Sam, Alexis, etc). But I'll always think poor Guy is underrated because of those intensely horny love scenes with Christopher Sean on DAYS where he didn't giggle and smirk his way through them like Certain Parties.

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