Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[statsgirl]

My mother played tea party with all her granddaughters. I put away the tea set away when she died for them but i cannot get the girls to take it away. And as for the time needed to polish the silver teapot ....

If Lila left the tea set to Tracy, she had every right to give it to Violet who seems to be obsessed with tea parties.  Since Brook Lynn wasn't allowed to play with it as a child, she wouldn't have personal memories of it. There must be plenty of things that Lila left that Brook Lynn can keep in memory of her great grandmother. She can buy her own set of that particular china.

Edited October 22 by statsgirl

[graight]

Just don't let Sonny near the tea set.  It won't last a week.

[Daisy]

11 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Tracy told Violet when they played tea party in the Q kitchen, and today when BLQ said she's never been allowed to use the china, that it had been Lila's but it has not been specified whether Lila gave it to her specifically or if the china is considered Q family heirlooms for the great grandchildren. Since her own granddaughter BLQ is clearly enjoying having a tea party with her husband and niece, I think it's insulting that Tracy didn't even think about the china being inherited by BLQ and Chase to use with their future children and Violet, or possibly Monica's granddaughter Scout in the future. I get that Tracy thinks Violet is the most precious child in the world who should have special things, but Tracy's line that Lila would want someone to "enjoy" the china rings false to me because Violet is 9 years old. Is she still going to want to play tea party in three years? Probably not. If for some reason Chase and BLQ broke up/divorced in the future, would BLQ ever see Violet again? Probably not. So either way, Lila's lovely, expensive china sits in a box not being used by Lila's descendants. 

No, she may not want to play tea party in three years. but that doesn't mean she wouldn't enjoy having a tea service when she's older. But I think she'll always remember the woman that she loves as a grandmother gave her something precious and use it from time to time and can pass that down.

To me it just reads that Tracy cared for Gregory very much - and by extension grew to love Violet very much. [and we already know she cares very much for Finn]. Lila took a lot of chicks under her wing and made them feel just as much as the family as her own brood - and it's evident Tracy does the same thing just a bit more selectively - so to give Violet the tea set is Tracy in her way showing her how much she loves Violet.  - I think it's very much a Tracy moment more than it is a Violet moment

I'm sure there are countless more treasures and heirlooms that Lila left behind that BLQ and her family could cherish and pass on and it doesn't diminish the fact that Tracy had a love bond with a little girl and wanted to give said little girl two pieces of her heart because we know Tracy doesn't give out her memories of Lila to anyone that easily. I don't find that insulting at all. 

 

Edited October 22 by Daisy

[absnow54]

Performance of the day goes to Steve Burton. When Sam told him he couldn’t let Danny ride motorcycles, he gave the perfect perplexed reaction of having no idea who she was talking about, while also recognizing it was too late to ask.

[dubbel zout]

14 hours ago, TVbitch said:

I would also be happy to give Violet our family's set of silver cutlery, which is another pain in the arse! 

We had to sell my mom's silver for scrap! It killed me, but no one wanted it. Storage space was again the issue, even though she had one of those lined boxes. And while you could throw most of it in the dishwasher, you had to wash the knives by hand. I did take two service sets and now use them as my everyday flatware, but I have to handwash everything anyway (no dishwasher in my tiny NYC kitchen) so it's not an additional hassle.

Most people don't entertain at home the way they used to, which is a big reason china and silver isn't being passed on.

[Daisy]

13 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Most people don't entertain at home the way they used to, which is a big reason china and silver isn't being passed on.

this right here. like i have my set of dishes when i lived on my own. my mom has HER set of dishes - and we basically eat out of takeout containers etc because it's easier to eat in our room and put the lid on. they just sit there and mom can't bear to toss them in case someting happens and we need to move and we want plates. [like we still wouldn't take the take out boxes with us]. 

[YaddaYadda]

Watching today, it hit me how many characters the show has/is writing off over the last 4-5 months.

But we're keeping Heather Webber so I guess we're all good. 

[dubbel zout]

Marshall leaving spares me a possible romance with Stella, and for that I am profoundly grateful.

[mostlylurking]

My daughter loves having tea parties and for her sixth birthday my mother in law gifted her a china tea set that was her mother in law’s.  My daughter cherishes it and I’m so happy she can use it and enjoy it.  She takes great care of it, although I’m not concerned about a few little chips that may happen.  Like others have said, it’s not common to entertain formally anymore so who knows if she will ever actually use it when she’s older.  I loved Tracy gifting Violet the tea set, and then when Violet told her to keep one cup for herself…..it was the darnedest thing someone started chopping onions in here 🥲 

Edited October 22 by mostlylurking

[YaddaYadda]

Maxie sucks. Sam is about to be cut open to donate part of her liver to Lulu so that she has a fighting chance and Maxie is talking about how she should tell Dante that Lulu was still in love with him. Getting ready to plant a knife in your so-called friend's back is such a swell move.

Why is she acting like the liver transplant is going to wake Lulu from her coma? She had a brain injury. Even if she wakes up, she might not remember anyone. Knowing Frank, Lulu will probably wake up thinking she's from Pine Valley.

Edited October 22 by YaddaYadda

[dubbel zout]

Besides being Sam's brother, isn't Lucas is a trauma surgeon? That is not the same thing as a transplant surgeon. Lucas should be doing a much better job in dissuading Sam about him operating on her. The only time I'd want a relative operating on me is if they were the only one in the world who could do it. But maybe I'm the idiot here.

I liked Portia putting Ric on the spot about Heather—what a weasel he was to want Elizabeth to help him break the news—but I'm not looking forward to her coming completely unhinged.

[GHScorpiosRule]

2 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Besides being Sam's brother, isn't Lucas a trauma surgeon?

Yes.

[tessabq]

Nothing against the actress, I enjoy her on Will Trent, but I'm very glad Violet didn't "treat" us to a goodbye song. Yes, I am a terrible person.LOL

[Bringonthedrama]

18 hours ago, Sake614 said:

But they don’t live there. They only moved in while Violet was staying with them I don’t expect them to stay at the Qs long term. 

They moved in with the intention of only staying there while Violet was with them. But since they've gotten comfortable there and now that BLQ will miss Violet and has babies on the brain, I'm more or less expecting them to stay in the Q mansion long-term. 

[KittyQ]

So, you can decide at the last minute to have your brother do your transplant? I know that organ retrieval and transplantation have become more routine than they were before, but aren't the surgeons expected to be prepared and well versed in the patients before the surgery? (I'm not even going to address the hospital politics that would probably result in ruffled feathers if you did this).

Although, I also think that there would be more than one surgeon involved, to make the surgery more efficient - one for the donor, one for the recipient. 

[KittyQ]

Well, obviously Heather getting released is all Ric's fault. I would love to hear someone complain about the judge who vacated the judgement. Anyone who has standing could probably ask for charges against Heather for her assaults and murders, because she did do them, even if she was "impaired" by cobalt, so you'd think that she should be in jail or a mental hospital. She hasn't been incarcerated nearly as long as she should have been. 

[dubbel zout]

16 minutes ago, KittyQ said:

Well, obviously Heather getting released is all Ric's fault. I would love to hear someone complain about the judge who vacated the judgement.

Shouldn't there have been someone from PC or state district attorney's office to argue for Heather's continued incarceration? Stuff like that isn't one-sided.

The plot-point writing is so blatant. The writers don't even try to make any sort of sense.

[TVbitch]

Just why? I can't even think of a storyline with Heather that would possibly interest me. There are already so many characters with no story and nothing to do. How long can Gio just wander into scenes with his puppy dog grin and Spicoli level conversation. 

[sashabear21]

The one good thing about Violet was she kept BLQ from going into full-blown baby rabies. Now she’ll probably have them, find out there’s fertility problems, Lulu will wake up with Nina’s post-coma baby rabies and then Kristina will have to be an octomom surrogate! 

[DanaK]

41 minutes ago, KittyQ said:

Although, I also think that there would be more than one surgeon involved, to make the surgery more efficient - one for the donor, one for the recipient. 

I think that’s what’s happening, with Lucas for Sam and the new guy for Lulu

[Bringonthedrama]

1 hour ago, YaddaYadda said:

Maxie sucks. Sam is about to be cut open to donate part of her liver to Lulu so that she has a fighting chance and Maxie is talking about how she should tell Dante that Lulu was still in love with him. Getting ready to plant a knife in your so-called friend's back is such a swell move.

Maxie was talking that way while visiting Lulu right after Lulu got transferred from the long-term care facility to GH. Her attitude was "nothing against Sam, but..." Maxie accepted that Sam and Dante became a couple while Lulu's been in a coma, but ultimately, she wants Lulu to wake up and get her husband back (since the split up wasn't because they didn't love each other anymore). I don't think Maxie and Sam have had any real friendship scenes since before Dante and Sam moved in together. Whereas Maxie still thinks of Lulu as her bestie, and then BLQ and Sasha as her close friends. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

27 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Shouldn't there have been someone from PC or state district attorney's office to argue for Heather's continued incarceration? Stuff like that isn't one-sided.

YES. Heather was already in one of the psychiatric prisons when she escaped and went on her serial killing murder spree. Less than a YEAR is NOT enough for "time served" because she had cobalt in her system.

23 minutes ago, TVbitch said:

Just why? I can't even think of a storyline with Heather that would possibly interest me.

I suspect because the actress is "friends" with Van Etten and/or Frank the Asshole. I remember reading something Mills said and then we heard Mulcahey was leaving. But where is she going to live? How will she support herself? Get ready for custody fight 12345678920 for Ace, that we all asked for NEVER.

7 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Maxie was talking that way while visiting Lulu right after Lulu got transferred from the long-term care facility to GH. Her attitude was "nothing against Sam, but..." Maxie accepted that Sam and Dante became a couple while Lulu's been in a coma, but ultimately, she wants Lulu to wake up and get her husband back (since the split up wasn't because they didn't love each other anymore).

Eh. It's all plot pointy (Quelle Surprise. NOT) since at Brookie's wedding, Maxie referred to her as her "best friend", but now that Lulu is coming back, she remembers that Lulu is her best friend.

That said, again, until we got news JJ was coming back and Lulu was recast, Maxie was all Sam and Dante rah! rah! See? Plot Pointy.

I always thought the scene was edited weirdly when Emme's Lulu told Dante she loved him before she collapsed into her coma and that Dante didn't hear it as he cradled her as she fell.

 

[Katy M]

So, I couldn't see how a liver transplant was going to bring Lulu out of her coma and today (OK yesterday I'm always a day behind), Lucas said straight out to Elizabeth that she would still be in a coma?  This is insane.  She has been in a coma for years.  Has liver damage.  I completely believe in the sanctity of life, but maybe the shouldn't have done the CPR when her ventilator failed.  And, as for Sam, all surgeries have risks. I don't know that I would want to take that risk, especially having two minor children at home, for someone who could very well be in a coma forever.  The risk/reward just isn't there.  Now adding in this new complication where surgery success just got "exponentially" smaller, hard pass.  If I'm in a coma for that long, someone come in and pull the plug please. Especially if I'm not on a soap, because after that very long treatise on why this surgery will change nothing, I have no doubt that Lulu will wake up in the next few days.

 

[GHScorpiosRule]

1 minute ago, Katy M said:

Now adding in this new complication where surgery success just got "exponentially" smaller, hard pass.  If I'm in a coma for that long, someone come in and pull the plug please. Especially if I'm not on a soap, because after that very long treatise on why this surgery will change nothing, I have no doubt that Lulu will wake up in the next few days.

But this is a soap. And as others have also stated, Original Nina woke up from a 20-year coma with no lasting bad effects whatsoever. 

And as I speculated up thread, they keep adding more and more complications because Lulu probably won't wake up until November Sweeps. Had Frank had any interest in the Lulu character, he wouldn't have fired Emme, or recast her sooner after firing Emme. But he didn't. It's all plot pointy nonsense.

[Cheyanne11]

Yesterday when Terri told Laura and Lucky that it would be up to Sam if she wanted to go through with the donation because, YA KNOW, the odds of success are miniscule, Laura almost acted put out that Sam would be the deciding factor.  Honestly, I doubt if this was real, that would even be a consideration; that the surgery would be called off because the odds were infintismal that it would be a success.  Stupid storyline that makes no sense.

I felt so bad for KeMo today, because those tears were not Sam's tears, but her own.  

[Sake614]

2 hours ago, Katy M said:

And, as for Sam, all surgeries have risks. I don't know that I would want to take that risk, especially having two minor children at home, for someone who could very well be in a coma forever.  The risk/reward just isn't there.  Now adding in this new complication where surgery success just got "exponentially" smaller, hard pass.

Has anyone even told her about the new complication? Couldn’t we at least have gotten one scene of her being informed and still going through with it? They went from A to Z without even passing B through Y. Typical for this stupid show.

[GHScorpiosRule]

It’s been quite some time, but I really enjoyed  Anna today. Made me wish that this would bring Robert and Anna back together. 

But I can’t have nice things.

With all the Robin shout outs, I wonder if we’ll get either Robert or Anna on the phone speaking with her?

I also loved, absolutely loved Elizabeth’s “No, no, no, no, no, NO!” to Ric as she walked away.

[statsgirl]

4 hours ago, KittyQ said:

Although, I also think that there would be more than one surgeon involved, to make the surgery more efficient - one for the donor, one for the recipient. 

There would be two whole teams -- one to retrieve the organ and who stays with Sam to sew her up and make sure she's okay, and another team to put the organ into Lulu.

When Sam asked Lucas to do the transplant, what he should have told her is that it is against AMA ethics to operate on a relative and he could lose his medical license.

2 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

I felt so bad for KeMo today, because those tears were not Sam's tears, but her own.  

Same. And when she told Spinelli not to hack in illegally without her, it was Kelly talking to BA.

Holly trying to accuse Anna of being just as bad as she is, and Anna replying that Robin was 5 and Sasha is a grown adult.

I had to fast forward through Curtis' smug Ashford propping speech. He and portia are perfect for each other.

11 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Most people don't entertain at home the way they used to, which is a big reason china and silver isn't being passed on.

 

Years ago, we would have six course meals for 8. Now that I have inherited my grandmother's and mother's china (same pattern), I could do it for 30 but who has the time and energy?

[ciarra]

18 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

When Sam asked Lucas to do the transplant, what he should have told her is that it is against AMA ethics to operate on a relative and he could lose his medical license.

Ethics, schmethics.

[jsbt]

Beyond deranged they are trying to put this '92 thing over with Robert and Holly. She was onscreen and frontburner for like a year and a half, the entire timeframe in which Holly could've carried Robert's child. She was having globetrotting adventures and romancing Mac and Bill! It's just idiotic.

Edited October 23 by jsbt

[ljr]

All of these scenes about how lulu might not make it are pointlesss. We know Lulu will make it.

i was thinking gio should have been brought on as a love interest for Aiden. Gio has absolutely nothing to do

[dubbel zout]

4 hours ago, ljr said:

All of these scenes about how lulu might not make it are pointlesss. We know Lulu will make it.

It's so obvious. They are leaning so hard on Lulu not making it and the surgery for Sam being a breeze. Even if we didn't know KeMo was leaving, I'd expect Sam to be in her own coma for a bit. Or she'd leave the hospital feeling fine and then collapse at home. There'd be some complication regardless. It's soap law.

4 hours ago, ljr said:

Gio has absolutely nothing to do

Why is Gio? It's not as if the Bensonhurst contingent needs shoring up. We barely see Lois and Olivia the way it is, and when we do, it's for some unnecessary comment.

[ASpring1900]

On 10/21/2024 at 4:09 PM, mostlylurking said:

Not me over here crying over Violet’s goodbye.  

Her whispered "I'll miss you the most" to BL made me tear up. And I have a heart of stone when it comes to soap sappiness.

 

 

[30 Helens]

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

Why is Gio?

Was he brought in under Mulcahey? I can’t remember. It seems like he’s there as a love interest for Trina, but with the return of Terrible Pacing, it might be next summer before they share a kiss. Not that I really care, as I see no chemistry there. She could do better. (Or, rather, the show should do better by her.)

1 hour ago, ASpring1900 said:

Her whispered "I'll miss you the most" to BL made me tear up. And I have a heart of stone when it comes to soap sappiness.

I have been one of Violet’s staunchest haters, but I have to admit she has done a fantastic job lately with the emotional stuff.  I can’t say I’ll miss her, exactly, but it figures that the show would send her off just when she’s finally getting interesting.

[GHScorpiosRule]

2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

 Even if we didn't know KeMo was leaving, I'd expect Sam to be in her own coma for a bit. Or she'd leave the hospital feeling fine and then collapse at home. There'd be some complication regardless. It's soap law.

Exception was Noah’s surgery where Patrick donated part of his liver.😉

4 minutes ago, 30 Helens said:

Was he brought in under Mulcahey? I can’t remember. It seems like he’s there as a love interest for Trina, but with the return of Terrible Pacing, it might be next summer before they share a kiss.

Don’t remember if he came in under Mulcahey, but media thread has reported a new actor/character hired to play Trina’s boyfriend. 

[jsbt]

18 minutes ago, 30 Helens said:

Was he brought in under Mulcahey? I can’t remember. It seems like he’s there as a love interest for Trina, but with the return of Terrible Pacing,

Yes. But it's obvious whatever they planned there did not happen. I've said before I wonder how GM would've handled the Spencer recast and I still think it's impossible to know since he is basically playing a grinning Disney greeter as poor Gio. I think FV remains deeply uncomfortable pairing Trina with another white dude and that's part of why they won't touch Spencer, hence why

Spoiler

they've finally brought in a Black male for her.

Which I have no problem with except that all characters of color on this show are getting marginal story when they've deserved better, or they stick to C-story for no-hopers like Jordan and Curtis and call that representation.

In other news: Dr. Terry continues to fail to convince me she did not simply study all these medical terms on Duolingo last night. She sounds like she is greeting at Benihana when she rattles off this stuff, or like a sniper has his sights trained at her head. And she's out here with Lucky and Laura like ‘let’s burn your dying daughter in effigy now, why wait?’ Like she wants to throw her in the KFC roaster right now!

They are obviously pinning all these medical mishaps on Carlo Rota a.k.a. Sidwell, the insomniac jewel buffoon who can't play cards, out for revenge. Another deeply threatening jack-of-all-trades villain from the crew that brought you creaky Cyrus "I Ran Over Dad in the Driveway! 😭" Renault, Peter August and of course Valentin. I can't wait to still be seeing more of him blustering his way through boring scenes a year from now while Frank has added Sidwell's son, daughter, ex-wife and presumably Natalia is his first wife or something. Then we'll all get to endure 50 overhyped tweets on the GH hashtag about how much 26 people with too much time on their hands are enjoying the 'Sidwell-Ramirez family.' I am so tired.

Also, I'm sorry, Van Hansis is doing a decent job but his hair looks like a rug.

Edited October 23 by jsbt

[NotMySekrit2Tell]

Hard to remember when the last good NEW villain on GH was (returns for Helena, Faison, Victor, etc don't count). The Balkan? Anthony Zacchara? Manny Ramirez? At least those guys were intimidating/scary, even if the stories were just a gaslight job to make Sonny look like more than the criminal user he is.

[jsbt]

Many of Guza's villains became interchangeable and cartoonish after a point, but most at least had some gravitas plus the longtime writing corps dating back to the '90s backing them up with some menace. Whereas all these randos FV brings on to play mob or superspy are so lame and unconvincing to me. Sure, I liked Carlo Rota on 24 decades ago but he was comic relief and it got old. He is not intimidating on this show and I know we're going to be stuck with a minimum of another 6-12 months of Sidwell follies just like Cyrus, Heather, Peter, etc. because FV and his writers never know how to let anyone they take a shine to go. Ava could put them all to shame when she's on her game, which she once again is not of late because they want to keep her super-viable.

On another note, I am echoing others but it is absolutely wild Sam and Jason got no real farewell scene - him tagged onto her scene with Drew re: parental logistics, their standing feet apart while she and Drew embraced. I detested Jasam but that's crazy.

Oh: And I do think they are potentially going there with Cody and Tracy, finally; another thing I suspect Mulcahey was setting up in spring-summer. But while I was all for it then I don't trust this team to do it right at all.

[dubbel zout]

1 hour ago, jsbt said:

And she's out here with Lucky and Laura like ‘let’s burn your dying daughter in effigy now, why wait?’ Like she wants to throw her in the KFC roaster right now!

LOL. Can you blame Terri? Lulu has been in a coma for years, and her family insists on putting her through a surgery that is iffy at best (as far as they know, of course). 

1 hour ago, jsbt said:

a year from now while Frank has added Sidwell's son, daughter, ex-wife and presumably Natalia is his first wife or something.

I'm sure the casting department is already looking around. 

49 minutes ago, NotMySekrit2Tell said:

Hard to remember when the last good NEW villain on GH was (returns for Helena, Faison, Victor, etc don't count). The Balkan? Anthony Zacchara? Manny Ramirez?

The Balkan was a total bore for me, though it was pretty awesome that Adrienne Barbeau killed him in cold blood. Papa Z had his amazing finger puppets, but was kind of a run-of-the-mill loon otherwise, and I didn't appreciate the abuse angle with Johnny and Claudia. I found Manny legit terrifying—Robert LaSardo was fantastic—but of course the show punted and had LaSardo return as Manny's twin priest brother. Way to undercut things. I think the show realized it, as it sent Marco out of town and we've heard nothing about him since.

That's the problem the show has with villains. They are used so badly. We know if they're up against Sonny, he will win. If Frank falls in love with the actor, we get Heather's current story. Heavy sigh.

[jsbt]

6 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

The Balkan was a total bore for me, though it was pretty awesome that Adrienne Barbeau killed him in cold blood. Papa Z had his amazing finger puppets, but was kind of a run-of-the-mill loon otherwise, and I didn't appreciate the abuse angle with Johnny and Claudia. I found Manny legit terrifying—Robert LaSardo was fantastic—but of course the show punted and had LaSardo return as Manny's twin priest brother. Way to undercut things. I think the show realized it, as it sent Marco out of town and we've heard nothing about him since.

Oh, there were plenty of issues with the Balkan and Manny a.k.a. the Latino Jason Voorhees (I still have no idea what happened to him or his priest twin!). But they had very compelling, fearsome actors in the roles - Daniel Benzali was touted as a big get from his Murder One days - and the larger storylines never felt quite so rinky-dink to me. There were clearly plans in place with the Balkan, even when it got OTT, stupid and went on way too long. And Manny's storylines were idiotic but LoSardo was scary. The gothic incest shenanigans with the Zaccharas made Anthony and Claudia a real threat IMO, at least at first before Anthony became a total joke.

Whereas almost all FV, CVE, etc.'s mob stories feel like kids trying to write serious crime storylines except they hire these goofy people who aren't convincing and they all have these very strange or weird afterschool TV motives. Cyrus is supposed to be a badass but spends his days whining about Laura, weeping about whether or not he ran over Dad in the driveway with the family Buick, looking like he's two steps from the rest home and then playing evangelist. Sidwell is just a guy who likes fast women, pretty jewels and losing at cards. Who cares?

Edited October 23 by jsbt

[Asp Burger]

3 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I found Manny legit terrifying—Robert LaSardo was fantastic—but of course the show punted and had LaSardo return as Manny's twin priest brother. Way to undercut things. I think the show realized it, as it sent Marco out of town and we've heard nothing about him since.

LOL. If there's one thing lamer than a soap twin reveal, it's a soap twin reveal quickly followed by, "Eh, never mind." B&B did that in the '90s with a short-term villain played by the late Anthony Addabbo. And GH did it again with Carlos. Ater he was dead, his twin brother (Joe?) showed up for a while to no apparent purpose. Maybe Frank liked that actor and knew that he had his eye on a new set of Venetian blinds?

[jsbt]

Just now, Asp Burger said:

And GH did it again with Carlos. Ater he was dead, his twin brother (Joe?) showed up for a while to no apparent purpose. Maybe Frank liked that actor and knew that he had his eye on a new set of Venetian blinds?

Oh God, I forgot that stupid shit.

[GHScorpiosRule]

11 minutes ago, Asp Burger said:

And GH did it again with Carlos.

Hey! It’s Carrrrrrlossss!

[statsgirl]

This whole discussion of Lucas doing the transplant surgery is so insulting to me as a viewer. There is No Way that the medical association would let him do it unless there was no other doctor available. And we know that there is.

Ditto all this handwringing about Heather being released. And now they're trying to make it a race thing. (Absolutely there are racial issues in America today but this shouldn't be one of them. It cheapens the actual issues.)  In real life, the prosecution would have appealed and brought in all sort of psychiatric witnesses and evaluations. At the least she would be monitored.

Can I hate Portia, Curtis and TJ any more?  GH writers: Hold my beer.

Nice scene between Robert and Anna. But please, don't make Sasha Robert's daughter for reals.

Joss and Dex have moved from getting aroused by talking about Sonny to getting aroused by talking about Heather. Danger is their aphrodisiac.

[YaddaYadda]

48 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I found Manny legit terrifying—Robert LaSardo was fantastic—but of course the show punted and had LaSardo return as Manny's twin priest brother.

That was one of the best villain runs the show had. Robert LaSardo was chef's kiss.

[Bringonthedrama]

13 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Can I hate Portia, Curtis and TJ any more? 

They are awful and I'm also confused about the TJ/nuLucas conversation - or did I miss something? Lucas and Molly used to be stepsiblings and Michael and Molly are cousins. In fact, RC's Lucas asked Molly's mother to be his attorney when he divorced Brad after the baby switch was revealed. Everyone connected to Lucas or Michael knows that Lucas gave up baby Wiley to Michael. So how is it that when nuLucas expresses empathy regarding the loss of the baby and says he went through "something similar", it seemed like brand new information to Molly's partner? It's recently been pointed out that they've been together for 10 years, so they were definitely a couple during the baby switch storyline.

Also, now Molly says her "marriage" is hanging on by a thread? Have the writers also forgotten that the whole reason Molly agreed on a "domestic partnership" is because she refused to be a wife/get married?  

Molly, the strain between you and TJ is because you both have shitty relationship skills and communications skills - that's not Ava's fault. I did, however, enjoy her kicking Rick out of their apartment.

[YaddaYadda]

It's always nice to have a sex interlude scene with Joss and Dex that doesn't fit anywhere in the episode. I'm starting to think that the writers just want to see the actress in her underwear because those sex scenes serve zero purpose and the couple is as bland as recycled printing paper.

Holly is . . . sigh. I remember how excited I was when she came back after so many years. Now I wish they'd just stop doing that. But the supposed dig that she isn't Sonny's type was all kinds of laughable. We know Sonny, you bigots and women who have no respect for your daughter or her relationship. I guess a con artist is a step too far for this nincompoop.

I really hate Diane and her smugness.

Edited October 23 by YaddaYadda

[perkie1968]

53 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

and TJ any more

I don't know who's directing Tahj but they need to tell him to tone down the absolute disgust and hatred TJ is exhibiting towards Molly.  She's talking to Ric and you can feel the pain in her voice that their "marriage" seems to be circling the drain.  He's talking to Lucas and there's spittle flying from his mouth and rage in his voice when he talks about her. 

Excellent scenes between Rick and Kristen.  They play very well off each other as father/daughter and give off the vibe that they've been working together for years (like Kirsten and Kristina yesterday when Maxie pulled Felicia in for a hug) 

[dubbel zout]

17 minutes ago, jsbt said:

18 minutes ago, Asp Burger said:

And GH did it again with Carlos. Ater he was dead, his twin brother (Joe?) showed up for a while to no apparent purpose. Maybe Frank liked that actor and knew that he had his eye on a new set of Venetian blinds?

Oh God, I forgot that stupid shit.

NGL, I loved Jeffrey Vincent Parise's telenovela acting as Carlos, but Joe was ridiculous even by GH standards. (At least JVP went on to teach the world to sing with Don Draper.)

@statsgirl, I wish I could give your post more than one like. There is so much wrong with the stories right now. Stupid is as stupid does, but so much of it is completely tone-deaf. The blithe way the show is treating Lucas operating on Sam is ridiculous. It's not an emergency situation, which at least would give him more of a reason to get involved.

LOL at Sonny's "I don't even know what this transaction is." But him sneering at Holly that she's not his type? She doesn't want to sleep with him. What a tool.

I wish Ric hadn't been so meek while Curtis et al were yelling at him about Heather. Ric doesn't even know the extended Ashford clan, so why is he letting them push him around? So disappointing.

A judge letting someone go who killed five people is the bigger problem than the lawyer presenting the case, but whatever, Show. You have a plot point to make.

4 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

the couple is as bland as recycled printing paper.

They are SO boring.

[perkie1968]

What was the stuff Holly dumped out of her purse supposed to be?  Gems?  diamonds?  Because they looked like chunks of cement that some intern found in the vacant lot across from the studio.