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2 hours ago, TVbitch said:

and he retaliated by casually dabbing his fingers over all of the remaining berries.

I'm pretty sure that was an ad lib on MEK's part because Jane tried hard not to break.   I rewound to watch again, and she got this little smirk like she was going to break and then covered it.  

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Artsda

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Brooklyn is all about attacking Lulu over hurting her child. When she had no intentions of finding, speaking to or knowing the child was in the house. She intended to live forever lying to Dante, her family and her "son" she's all about now.  So much so she's going after Rocco on purpose. Great mother instincts there.

What Brooklyn is doing is malicious and on purpose to possibly hurt a minor opposite of Lulu. 

Good for Lulu to go to Gio. He is the one who deserves the apology. 

Odd conversation for him to overhear with Jason and Carly. If something happens to Drew that may return. 

 

 

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Bringonthedrama

Bringonthedrama

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On 6/16/2025 at 10:43 PM, Artsda said:

Brooklyn is all about attacking Lulu over hurting her child. When she had no intentions of finding, speaking to or knowing the child was in the house. She intended to live forever lying to Dante, her family and her "son" she's all about now. 

Yep. I had a WTH reaction to her snarling at Lulu "You came after my son" like Lulu humiliated Gio on purpose by broadcasting the secret on a screen on the Nurses Ball stage and now he's curled up in the fetal position in a room at the Quartermaines, sobbing for mommy Brook Lynn to fix it. No, Lulu came after your mother in a room with the door closed and they didn't know they'd been heard until Gio had his meltdown on stage. 

Brook Lynn hated Lulu for throwing truth in her face, that Gio has already stated. He sees her, her mother and grandmother as liars who are not to be trusted because they did, in fact, lie to everyone. That is on top of the fact that Brook Lynn gave him away and made her choices to hide the fact that he even existed in the first place. Ouch. He never got the chance to have a dad because of Brook Lynn, Lois, Gloria and Camilla yet the three of them who are alive appear to have no remorse about that. 

Brook Lynn wants to "prove that Lulu isn't half the mother she claims to be" for herself.  It has nothing to do with motherly love of Gio. She thirsts for revenge.  She would make great besties with Kristina. 

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Daisy

Daisy

5 minutes ago, Grinaldi said:

I do not get where this Britt thing is going. Is BLQ going to claim that Rocco is really Britt and Patrick's kid? For what purpose? 

Look I'm all for a good soap feud. But Viki and Dorian or Kathryn and Jill would roll their eyes at this weak sauce nonsense.

LOL Viki barely had time for Dorian's and at least Dorian's nonsense was always fabulous. 

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Cheyanne11

Cheyanne11

7 hours ago, Grinaldi said:

I do not get where this Britt thing is going. Is BLQ going to claim that Rocco is really Britt and Patrick's kid? For what purpose? 

I assume she's going to use it because Rocco doesn't know his birth story/beginnings so Lulu's claim of "I never lie to my kids" isn't true.  

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KittenPokerCheater

KittenPokerCheater

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Lulu did not tell Gio about Brooklyn, nor did she plan to (she stupidly had the shouting match with Lois in a public place).  He overheard, and the only worse way he could have found out is for Lulu to have told him to his face.  It sounds like Brooklyn is purposely out to hurt Rocco because it will hurt Lulu.

That is crossing a line.  For me anyways.

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Cheyanne11

Cheyanne11

37 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

I think that he does, though. 

It would be really low for BLQ to tell Rocco anything about his birth if he doesn't.

Does he?  Then I have no idea what BLQ thinks she's accomplishing (and agreed it would be awful for her to tell Rocco if he doesn't know).  

This seems like a really clunky way to bring Britt back.

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Daisy

Daisy

4 minutes ago, KittenPokerCheater said:

Lulu, however stupidly, did not tell Gio about Brooklyn.  He overheard, and the only worse way he could have found out is for Lulu to have told him to his face.  It sounds like Brooklyn is purposely out to hurt Rocco because it will hurt Lulu.

That is crossing a line.  For me anyways.

my mom has this saying. 
Don't have right in your hand and throw it away. 

I know it's a big. BLQ is wrong/BLQ has a point divide and that's all. but while I can understand and get her anger, if she's going to be all. "Imma gonna getchu" and bring people down to hurt Lulu,  she can just go to bensonhurt with Lois. just like Lulu has to own up to her part, maybe it's time you stop whinging and own up yours.  

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YaddaYadda

YaddaYadda

2 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Does he?  Then I have no idea what BLQ thinks she's accomplishing (and agreed it would be awful for her to tell Rocco if he doesn't know).  

This seems like a really clunky way to bring Britt back.

Clunky is a nice way of putting it. 

I'm not a Lulu fan. I actually hate the character, but it seems like this Gio stuff was written the way it was to bring Britt back.

I think they could have chosen a different route than this one. If Rocco knows okay, if Rocco doesn't know, then what does it achieve? But this show loves OTT anger.

Are they going to take Britt's picture down from the hospital wall now? Maybe don't honor characters whose actor is still around next time. The whole thing looks stupid now.

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Bringonthedrama

Bringonthedrama

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26 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

I think they could have chosen a different route than this one. If Rocco knows okay, if Rocco doesn't know, then what does it achieve? But this show loves OTT anger.

It shows Brook Lynn embracing her true nature, that she really doesn't care about her "friend" and baby daddy Dante at all despite her claims otherwise (because it will hurt him that his innocent teenage son and his marriage to Lulu got targeted), it will further alienate Gio, and if Chase is smart it will make him reconsider wanting to have a family with Brook Lynn. He should think okay, what if we have a kid and the child's feelings get hurt because of a classmate or a classmate's parent's conflict with Brook Lynn and their stupid mouth? This happens in real life. Is Brook Lynn's idea of parenting plotting revenge to destroy the parent's life or the classmate's family? How does that show your own child love?

Brook Lynn needs to accept that her son is not okay with the choices she made and he is not obligated to change his mind and embrace her because she's desperate to be a mother at this time in her life. 

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If Rocco suddenly starts going around begging for 'a relationship' with

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thieving Dr. Misty Nausea when she returns

I swear to God I'll vomit. Britt and her deranged mother literally stole that baby in vitro or whatever, then whined and connived about it! Fuck Britt!

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Daisy

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Lucas: Michael is not a vindictive person.
Me: hahahahahahahahhahahahahhahaa.

Lucas: Michael sees how much you love Wiley and he'd never break that connection

Me: right.. how often have you been in golden spawn's life? that's what I thought
(nice little toss in that Michael does let you see wiley whenever he wants. just off screen and a throw away line we know the truth, show).

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dubbel zout

dubbel zout

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I'm amused that Sonny's idea of hanging-out clothes means no tie. It's in character, but I'd think he'd have a nice sweater or something. I can see him in Loro Piana, for example.

Drew needs to stop making threats and start acting on them. 

Curtis, just because Michael doesn't accept your resignation doesn't mean you have to stay at Aurura. Quit!

Wiley is 9 years old?! The writing for him is all over the place.

Sasha feeling sorry for Willow losing custody was a bit rich considering she thought the kids didn't belong with her in the first place.

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statsgirl

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Dante, the fact that you went straight to Sonny to talk about what the ADA is doing s precisely why she is excluding you from the investigation.

Gio's gratitute of Lulu and anger at Brook Lynn is really over the top, just like Dante's at Gio over Rocco's drinking. It's bad writing, including Rocco having to go all the way back to the Quartermaine's for his glove. You didn't think to bring it to the batting cage? Just borrow another.

Is it 'dump on Brook Lynn' day? Shut up Rocco.  Your dad got a teenager pregnant and never checked on her. Nice 1930s mentality there.

If Gio was only living in the same house as Brook Lynn for the last few months, who was he living with for the last 10 years?

When Sasha was "that's not my baby", I thought, that's a good twist, Sasha with an Oliver Sacks-type neurological disorder where she cannot recognize her child. But I should have known that anyone association with the Corinthii would not have a problem that exists for more than a day.

Is Britt in the nursery switching babies?

Once again, filing is not an RA's job.

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JMO

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That was an abrupt about-face from Curtis. One minute he's resigning from Aurora because he doesn't want his blackmail situation to tarnish its reputation when he's forced to publish pro-Drew material. The next he's agreeing to a pro-Drew/Willow editorial.  I realize Michael was in on it, but Aurora's reputation will be tarnished nonetheless.  Unless they can salvage it via a tell-all exclusive if and when Drew falls.

Maybe they're just taking their time getting into the Dalton/Joss/Emma/Anna/Brennan/Jason story, but for something that has the potential to pull still more characters into it, it feels like there's not really much direction yet.  Feels like Pikeman.

I thought the conversation between Lulu and Gio was a good one.  Actually going through it with the person most affected seemed to bring some enlightenment and empathy to Lulu, and tamped down her righteousness.  As to Gio---he's understandably angry and resentful, maybe a little more so than someone more mature would be. To my eye, that part of him is just like his mother, and I hope he recovers his wisdom faster than BLQ seems to be able to recover hers. 

It was also good to see the reciprocal exchange between Rocco and Brook Lynn, but I fear that Rocco's defending his father will be taken by BLQ as an insult to her.  Rather than make her rethink her plan for retribution, it may have motivated her.  I wasn't watching for the Britt/Rocco storyline, had no idea about her surrogacy, and I wonder what she plans to do with the information Marco gathers.  

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Daisy

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36 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Wiley is 9 years old?! The writing for him is all over the place.

 

 

he's nine? and he isn't like "wait so why wasn't Mommy fat when she had a new baby, Daddy you have some 'splainin' to do." 

7 minutes ago, PatsyandEddie said:

I think Daisy’s momentary disappearance was simply a feint to show the family that there is a person or organization out to get either Sonny himself or Michael. 

man. this kid's name is going to bug me for the rest of her existance. lol. I legit was like "i didn't go anywhere, Patty"

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KittenPokerCheater

KittenPokerCheater

45 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Is Britt in the nursery switching babies?

That crossed my mind too, but I think the theory of Willow going to see Daisy might be closer to the truth.  I foresee a trip to Shadybrook for her.

Liked the conversation between Lulu and Gio.  It was high time she apologized to him.  

Brooklyn now has another reason to go after Rocco now, after their conversation.

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TVbitch

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If they are bringing Brit back, I hope it's not just to make her a villain after all that time they spent redeeming her. And why get rid of Brad right before she comes back? Are they maybe bringing her back for Jason, seeing as nothing else they've done with him has worked? Oh well, at least she has a sense of humor, which is sorely lacking in most of the characters on this show. And bonus: it will irritate Carly! 

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Winston Wolfe

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5 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

Are they going to take Britt's picture down from the hospital wall now? Maybe don't honor characters whose actor is still around next time. The whole thing looks stupid now.

Do we know for a fact that KT is coming back?  I'm really not keeping up these days, LOL. It took me a while to like her, but once I did, I fell hard.

If she does come back, guess it's inevitable that she'll run right into the arms of Jasus. Ugh.

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Sake614

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The whole  mistaken baby thing was ludicrous. I known this is PC but every baby and mother has a bracelet that gets scanned to ensure they match. The hospital would leave itself open to a MAJOR lawsuit.

enjoyed Lulu and Gio s talk and how she handled herself in the face of his questions about BL. Rather than pile on, she tried to explain as best she could that BL was just a teenager and was scared. That it was Gloria and Lois who orchestrated the whole ruse just to keep him close. That, as she said, they never thought it would come out and were doing what they thought was best for him, however misguided.

Dante, if your father is the most important thing in your life, maybe you should quit the PCPD. It’s always been a conflict of interest but now you’re going to actively undercut any investigation by tipping off Sonny if you hear anything. Why not just go to work for him already ?

22 minutes ago, Winston Wolfe said:

Do we know for a fact that KT is coming back?

Yes

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KittenPokerCheater

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I hope they don't bring Britt back as a villian either.

I'm okay if Britt and Jason hook up again, because I feel like Jason (the actor) actually put some effort into it instead of phoning things in back when they were together.  And I thought they had chemistry.

But I fear they are going to go the Jason/Sasha route.

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dubbel zout

dubbel zout

13 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

enjoyed Lulu and Gio s talk and how she handled herself in the face of his questions about BL. Rather than pile on, she tried to explain as best she could that BL was just a teenager and was scared. That it was Gloria and Lois who orchestrated the whole ruse just to keep him close. That, as she said, they never thought it would come out and were doing what they thought was best for him, however misguided.

It would be nice if Lulu started to show BL a similar consideration.

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KittyQ

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55 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

enjoyed Lulu and Gio s talk and how she handled herself in the face of his questions about BL. Rather than pile on, she tried to explain as best she could that BL was just a teenager and was scared. That it was Gloria and Lois who orchestrated the whole ruse just to keep him close. That, as she said, they never thought it would come out and were doing what they thought was best for him, however misguided.

So Lulu suddenly understands why BL did what she did? Glad she shared with Gio, but maybe the next thing should be to call BL and tell her that she now understands and is sorry for her part in the big mess. Of course, that is what a normal person might do, so no chance it will happen. 

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Desperado

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I really wish the show would give Lulu something else to do, outside of Brooklyn’s orbit because even calmer and showing some empathy with Gio, I couldn’t take her. And the convo lasted an entire episode to boot.

I hate that they’re using the name Vaughn for the WSB guy because I remember Alias’ spy handler Vaughn, and dude is really no match. I was also afraid he would hit his knees swimming in the 2-ft deep pool, but good job avoiding that pitfall.

I couldn’t watch the Drew scenes with Nina and Portia because these women have no brains, on top of having no spine. Poor Willow has no one to have her back, no wonder she morphs into whatever some guy wants her to be at the drop of a hat.

I’m also particularly disappointed in Nina and wish the show would make her fun again.

Lastly, I saw a comment online that said that Dante had more grey hairs than his father and I giggled for a good long time at that one. 🤣

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Perkie

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4 hours ago, statsgirl said:

If Gio was only living in the same house as Brook Lynn for the last few months, who was he living with for the last 10 years?

Gio's been living with Lois/her parents since Carmella died.  When Lois moved to PC/Q mansion last year, she brought 'cousin' Gio with her, and they were living in the mansion with Brook Lynn.  Then when Sam died, Dante and Rocco moved in to be closer to Danny, so at that point Gio was living with both his parents as well as both his grandmothers, as well as his great grandmother without knowing it.  

4 hours ago, statsgirl said:

But I should have known that anyone association with the Corinthii would not have a problem that exists for more than a day.

That was the fastest resolution to a "crisis" that we've ever seen.  One commercial break and that's it.  I also expected there to be something wrong with Sasha that she didn't recognize her own baby, or Nina and Drew would walk in on Willow with the baby, possibly trying to nurse her, in some weird mental break.   But nope, Michael reassures her it will all work out and then Lucas shows up with her and that it's.  Anticlimactic much.  

3 hours ago, Daisy said:

Wiley is 9 years old?!

He was born Aug 2018, so he should be 6 about to turn 7, but when the new actor started, they aged in up a couple of years, to match the actor, who's currently 9.  Though he acts much younger than a 9 year old to me.  

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Cheyanne11

Cheyanne11

4 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Is it 'dump on Brook Lynn' day? Shut up Rocco.  Your dad got a teenager pregnant and never checked on her. Nice 1930s mentality there.

Yeah, that was bratty of him.  Especially because Gio IS blaming her, so his assessment of the situation was wrong.  

I have no idea who the Mad Baby Swapper is, but I'm sure it'll be something stupid.  

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Perkie

Perkie

2 hours ago, ljr said:

That wsb guy joss is talking to is cute. Why isn’t she dating him?

Dex died less than 6 months ago.  I'm surprised she was ok with Vaughn kissing he even if it was just to put off Emma.  

1 hour ago, KittyQ said:

So Lulu suddenly understands why BL did what she did? Glad she shared with Gio,

Ten bucks says it's just a thing she said to Gio to make him feel better and the next time we see her talking about it, to BLQ, or tracy, or Dante or Maxie, she'll be back to not understanding why a teenager would want to give up her baby.  

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sashabear21

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Ugh, do we really have to revisit the Britt stole the embryo story? That was such a horrible time on the show with the Sabrina makeover, the elementary school love triangle, Felix calling her the Britch every 5 seconds like it was a joke that would never possibly get stale. But who am I kidding, in hindsight that was probably Shakespeare compared to the show now. And it's not like they can do a lot in the way of flashbacks unless they just completely redo them since Jason Thompson is on another show, Lulu's been recast and poor Tyler Christopher is no longer with us.  Also Dante's sheer delight in finding out that he had a son in Ben/Rocco, and barely being mad at Britt about it will be a pretty glaring comparison with the current Gio story.  

Whatever they're doing with Drew, whether it's a brain tumor, an imposter, he got mapped with Shiloh's memories, etc. they need to come to some sort of resolution because at the moment he's just an asshole that I'm bored with watching.  

Of course Sonny wears a suit to the batting cages.  

Lulu is correct that her delivery needs work. In fact she should probably just stop talking for awhile.  

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Artsda

Artsda

Michael was great refusing to take Curtis resignation.  Rory is doing such a good job 

Sasha's fake concerns over Willow is a joke. She helped take the kids on multiple occasions. She attacked and hypocritically went after Willow multiple times. Refused to tells the Q's about the baby and hated on them too, now wants to live there? 

Lulu explaining and answering all of Gio's questions was great. Nice conversation they seem more mother and son, nice scenes. Lulu gave Brooklyn more grace to Gio than she deserved. 

So sad he didn't know his own birthday, but glad Lulu told him. 

Team Rocco telling Brooklyn she's the one Gio should be mad at. She's going to blame Lulu and take no responsibility for anything. While Gio appreciates Lulu truth because it's real. 

What is Brooklyn trying to give Lulu a taste of medicine?  Britt and the embryo story is well known all over town it's no secret. Brooklyn proving the type of person she is and I don't think this will make Gio warm up to her. Hurting his brother to get revenge on the one person who he thinks of telling him the truth. 

Did Willow not get the psych evaluation? They're letting her go?  She suddenly claims she has no home without the kids?  She couldn't choose kids over Drew on the stand, but now has no home without them? 

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Suicidy 2.0

Suicidy 2.0

On 6/11/2025 at 3:59 AM, CeChase said:

 I hate what they're doing to Cody.  The actor is hot and has some charisma.  I like him with Molly and was looking forward to that.  It's so annoyng.

This Lucky goodbye tour is such a waste of screentime for me.  I guess his fans want it, but I couldn't care less and it's a huge waste of time. 

True.  Cody is a fun, likable guy.  One of the few male characters on the show I would actually enjoy hanging out with.

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statsgirl

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1 hour ago, Perkie said:

Gio's been living with Lois/her parents since Carmella died.  When Lois moved to PC/Q mansion last year, she brought 'cousin' Gio with her, and they were living in the mansion with Brook Lynn. 

That's what confused me.  Someone today (Lulu? Gio?) said that Gio and Brook Lynn had been living in the same house for months (i.e. since Lois foisted him on the Quartermaines). But if Gio has been living with Lois for the past 10 years, where was Brook Lynn living all those times when she wasn't in Port Charles?  I assumed that she was living with Lois but then she would have been sharing a house with Gio for years.

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Suicidy 2.0

Suicidy 2.0

On 6/14/2025 at 10:32 AM, Bringonthedrama said:

It's interesting to see others' interpretations. I thought Brook Lynn and Lulu were both being insufferable and that Maxie should have either a) kicked them both out of her home or b) locked them in a room together.

I distinctly remember that Brook Lynn said she went on tour with her mother and gave birth. When she went back to school that fall, it was like nothing ever happened between them. Dante was dating someone and she did the same. 

She said she had already made up her mind to give the baby up without telling anyone, including him. What her and her nitwit mother needed to not ignore is that any adoption would not be legal unless the biological father gave up his legal rights to the child. To avoid telling Dante the truth, no father was named and Gio's birth certificate was forged. 

When Brook Lynn was giving her reason "didn't want Dante to live with the pain too" it sounded like that's what she told herself to avoid having to deal with blowback from him or consequences like him trying to find out what happened to the baby when she felt neither of them had the right to know once she made the decision for both of them. She knew he wouldn't respect that she had lied to him and betrayed their friendship. 

Cody explained himself, that he was a stupid kid dealing with a very scared Brook Lynn who begged him to keep the secret.  It's understandable that at the time he didn't want to upset Brook Lynn more. 

Chase needs to believe this was a terrible heavy emotional burden for his wife.  Otherwise, what does it say about her that in addition to other ugly scheming she's done including trying to rape Dante for money, all the while claiming to be his friend, she had his baby and gave the baby up then continued to lie to him for 22 years? In their not distant past, Brook Lynn lied to and stood in the way of Chase going back to the police career he loves because she wanted them focused on a music career together. Considering she did this to Dante, a good guy she's known her whole life, it's entirely possible she could betray Chase in a bigger way if she doesn't get what she wants. It baffles me that when he talks about how great Brook Lynn was with Bailey Lou, he totally glazes over the part that the Bailey Lou protection scheme started out with Brook Lynn wanting to use a baby to manipulate Valentin so she could fix her mistakes.

The last reason Brook Lynn gave isn't valid to me because as an adult she has to know that the way she and her mother went about handling things, is not a valid, legal adoption.

I think we all know by now that the writers for this show just make up whatever they want about the law.  Like taking Drew’s name away.  And he didn’t even receive judicial notice from the court.  Tracy called her lawyers and ‘POOF’ no more Drew Quartermaine.  Same thing with taking Ava’s year’s old divorce settlement.  Or that bullshit where Martin was set to jail over something related to his divorce settlements that had nothing to do with it.

the writers are lazy, stupid, untalented, and uninterested in getting anything that is technical correct.

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So what are they going to do?  This they brought Sasha the wrong baby thing made me think that maybe Obrecht grabbed the wrong petri dish (or Britt switched it?), and Rocco isn't Lulu and Dante's.  And then we have another long, big secrit where BL finds out and agonizes over telling Lulu and Dante, and hides it from Chase and nearly ruins her marriage.  And BL screams it backstage at the Nurses' Ball 2026, and Rocco overhears...

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nilyank

nilyank

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14 minutes ago, ciarra said:

So what are they going to do?  This they brought Sasha the wrong baby thing made me think that maybe Obrecht grabbed the wrong petri dish (or Britt switched it?), and Rocco isn't Lulu and Dante's.  And then we have another long, big secrit where BL finds out and agonizes over telling Lulu and Dante, and hides it from Chase and nearly ruins her marriage.  And BL screams it backstage at the Nurses' Ball 2026, and Rocco overhears...

But both Dante and Rocco are allergic to latex. I really doubt they would take away the grandchild of Sonny and Laura.

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