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OMG that heart attack was the funniest thing I’ve ever seen. MB clutching his stomach? Did he have a tummy ache? Lol! And when we came back to that scene, it’s like the director said ‘Mo, your heart is in your chest, not your stomach!’ Anyway, I guess we’re going to have another ‘withhold heart medication’ story. 

Damn Carly’s hair looked good after spending a night or two in the hospital. Does GH have hairstylists on staff now?

elizabeth really should mine her own business before she gets caught up in Portia’s legal troubles. And Ric shouldn’t be talking to her at ALL about it.

I really liked the Maxie/Lucas scenes. They’re fun together.

  On 3/26/2025 at 12:03 AM, Pingaponga said:

Wait, what? How did I miss that?

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The implication is that it Vaughn. Not sure I’m buying it.

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  On 3/26/2025 at 12:40 AM, Cheyanne11 said:

Oh, ffs, is Sonny pulling an Edward Q 'give me my pills' with Ava?  I hate this show.

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Looks that way.  But we already know Kristina (who seems to be hearing impaired not to hear the shouting from the living room) is at the house and can swoop in and rescue Sonny from the evil Ava.

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  On 3/25/2025 at 5:53 PM, driver18 said:

No, it shouldn't matter that he lost his home but it does.  The LA fires were a horrific event. That of all the actors on this show, GH would choose to get rid of the guy who lost his home to those fires shows an appalling lack of heart and compassion. Sure, this is a business, but the show has chosen to take an incredibly popular actor and written his character in a vile way, and incredibly OOC from the inception of Drew. This was their choice.

And the optics of potentially choosing to fire the one actor in their cast--when they have so much dead weight--who lost his home in the LA fires will likely get PR. And not of the good kind. And GH most assuredly does not need that right now. Especially with BTG doing as it is.

Because, again, this is a business.

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I agree with you except I don't find him hot.  But yeah, I would not want to see him fired.  Maybe he can be poisoned but survives, and there's a big who failed to poison Drew storyline.  

  On 3/25/2025 at 6:38 PM, Sake614 said:

He won’t suffer if he’s not on GH. He’s got his hallmark movies and a game show, both of which likely pay more than GH.

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He's not on Hallmark anymore though.  He left for that startup competitor, is it GAF?  Great American Family I think.  Not my cup of tea, but anyway, he's not at Hallmark. 

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  On 3/26/2025 at 12:10 AM, Sake614 said:

OMG that heart attack was the funniest thing I’ve ever seen. MB clutching his stomach? Did he have a tummy ache? Lol! And when we came back to that scene, it’s like the director said ‘Mo, your heart is in your chest, not your stomach!’ Anyway, I guess we’re going to have another ‘withhold heart medication’ story. 

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You beat me to it, @Sake614! I could not stop laughing my ass off.

And Frank, Korte and other hacks must think long time viewers who are still watching are stupid or have short memories! The OG Edward and Tracy scenes of her holding back his heart meds is EONS better than the farce that was on my screen yesterday.

And it's still incredibly offensive that Show is suddenly telling us that Ava is flat broke-that she wasn't already wealthy BEFORE she married and divorced Nik. And of course the tone-deafness of the show itself-like only wealthy mothers are allowed to have custody-that there aren't millions of mothers from poverty to middle class, but that's another rant for another time.

  On 3/26/2025 at 12:10 AM, Sake614 said:

The implication is that it Vaughn. Not sure I’m buying it.

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Me either.

And Not!Brennan( just like Cameron's Drew), has ruined the charming Aussie Charles Mesure's original Brennan. Who is this pathetic person? And his constant reference to Valentin as "Old Friend" is beyond grating.

Good Lord. You mean to tell me in Show time, only one DAY has passed since Lucky woke up? And that was like, what? A month ago? It's the Black and White Ball Time Passing all over again!

An NuNuLooLoo can also STFU. The reason she has Charlotte back is BECAUSE Valentin texted Rocco, pretending to be Charlotte! HE brought her back to her whiny ass. And gee, she won't listen to Anna, but Alexis, sure, why not? That guilt over Sam's death is more convincing.

Despite hating all the HIPAA and client/attorney privilege violations, I'm loving Elizabeth/Lucas and I hope Lucky also joining in, working together to find out what's going on.

I swear, this show is so fucking cheap, they can't bother to even put "almost killed by poison" make up on Laura Wright. Just like Willow with all her make-up during her chemo treatments. At least they did justice with Leslie Charleson/Monica's breast cancer and Nancy/Alexis' (with her losing her hair) when she had lung cancer. Would applying make-up really go over Frank's budget? 

And Cujo might as well have had food poisoning with how fresh she looked. She was already screaming like a banshee/harpy in her scenes with Jason. I just can't help but compare how utterly ILL and SICK Luke looked when he was being poisoned and didn't know it; or how Sean looked when they all went to Ireland because he had the last of the antidote.

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  On 3/26/2025 at 4:06 AM, ciarra said:

But we already know Kristina (who seems to be hearing impaired not to hear the shouting from the living room) is at the house and can swoop in and rescue Sonny from the evil Ava.

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Kristina will no doubt try to have Ava arrested. Ugh, if only Kristina could be launched into the sun. She's SO tiresome.

  On 3/26/2025 at 12:56 PM, GHScorpiosRule said:

And Frank, Korte and other hacks must think long time viewers who are still watching are stupid or have short memories! The OG Edward and Tracy scenes of her holding back his heart meds is EONS better than the farce that was on my screen yesterday.

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No, I'm pretty sure this how they think they're honoring history.

  On 3/26/2025 at 12:56 PM, GHScorpiosRule said:
  On 3/26/2025 at 12:10 AM, Sake614 said:

The implication is that it Vaughn. Not sure I’m buying it.

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Me either.

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Same, but I also wouldn't be shocked if Vaughn were the sekrit kid. It gives Joss a chance to point out how hypocritical Brennan is—"You didn't have to cut ties with your family; why do I?"

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I think Kristina has a place on the canvas, but not as someone with such a deranged single-mindedness to seek vengeance for something that everyone but she believes was a terrible accident. The only reason people like Sonny and Alexis aren't telling her to get a grip and see a therapist (or see a better one, since the early sessions didn't do anything we the viewers can see) is because they're afraid of Kristina's "fragility." What a couple of cowards.

Too bad Kevin is luring gambling addicts to their doom in Maryland, because he might be able to help.

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Do we know what's behind Ava's money troubles? I swear, I retain so little of this show...

Anyway, I wish it was Kristina, calling on her Cassadine heritage, that was responsible. That might be a decent revenge scheme that would have Kristina being competent and not...this. Remember how Stefan quietly maneuvered the hospital into a dire financial situation before coming in to "save" it? Actually, some of y'all might not, that was nearly 30 years ago. That I can retain.

Anyway, something like that.

Can Lucky, Elizabeth, and Lucas go around solving mysteries all the time? Triple L Detective Agency! Not that I want Elizabeth and Lucas to stop being medical professionals, but Dick Van Dyke could handle both!

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  On 3/26/2025 at 4:14 PM, Melgaypet said:

Do we know what's behind Ava's money troubles? I swear, I retain so little of this show...

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Yes. Valentin told Alexis he was the one to reach out to the Cassadine Estate and have them take back the money Ava got in the divorce.

But that still doesn't explain how she's bankrupt and broke. Like I posted upthread, she was wealthy in her own right before she married Nik. No explanation as to how she lost all that money.

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  On 3/26/2025 at 4:27 PM, GHScorpiosRule said:

Yes. Valentin told Alexis he was the one to reach out to the Cassadine Estate and have them take back the money Ava got in the divorce.

But that still doesn't explain how she's bankrupt and broke. Like I posted upthread, she was wealthy in her own right before she married Nik. No explanation as to how she lost all that money.

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She may have been heavily invested in her gallery, now that it has two locations. Given her talk with her business manager about her spending, it sounds like she lived the high life and hasn't adjusted since the C estate took back the divorce settlement. She seems to also be in hock to the IRS to the tune of 2(?) million dollars due to unpaid property taxes or something similar

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  On 3/26/2025 at 5:05 PM, DanaK said:

She may have been heavily invested in her gallery, now that it has two locations. Given her talk with her business manager about her spending, it sounds like she lived the high life and hasn't adjusted since the C estate took back the divorce settlement. She seems to also be in hock to the IRS to the tune of 2(?) million dollars due to unpaid property taxes or something similar

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That's what is so stupid, especially the bolded part. Unless her accountant has been embezzling from her, he is responsible for filing her taxes, as I doubt she's been filing them herself. What? Did he forget to file? He's acting like she's suddenly coming to him with this problem.

It's all plot contrivance.

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Will Team Up-A (Nina and Portia) or Team-Up B (Tracy and Curtis) be the one to take down Drew?

The Quartermaine crypt is only partly on public land. Drew thinks that he can raze thole whole building without repercussions? Yeah, right.

Stella is wearing my earrings. I approve. I also like her shirt and the plain pants. Too bad Lois can't take note.

PSA from Stella about kidney disease.

Why does Gannon submit to being Sonny's personal on-call physician?

Oh Kristina, get help. Fast. Before you end up in the psychiatric hospital.

This poverty story of Ava's is getting more ridiculous. Did Nik have no money of his own at all? If the estate took back Wyndermere, Ava should be taking it to court to get some of Nik's personal money.

Sonny lied to Laura saying that he was being cordial to Ava when in reality he was blackmailing her.

Cody to Lulu: "I don't know why Dante didn't come clean to you back then."    Me:  I do.  Because they hadn't retconned the story yet.

It's sad that the best part of the show was Gio and Emma trying to save the crypt to save Tracy.

  On 3/26/2025 at 12:35 AM, absnow54 said:

It was made clear that Brennan will never know what it’s like to have a child and he responded with a very meaningful silence. 

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What is it with all these Sekrit Children on this show? Dex is dead and Gio is now accounted for. If it's not Vaughan (who cares?) then there is yet another new character I doubt I will care abouton the overstuffed canvas

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Tracy should be a little smarter than inviting Drew to see that she and Curtis (and Stella) are teaming up, especially since she and Curtis don't really know each other and haven't talked about any sort of strategy.

Poor Isaiah, being at Sonny's beck and call because Sonny is too paranoid and stupid to go to GH.

  On 3/26/2025 at 7:10 PM, statsgirl said:

Cody to Lulu: "I don't know why Dante didn't come clean to you back then."    Me:  I do.  Because they hadn't retconned the story yet.

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Yeah, this is one of the big problems I have with the story. Dante would have told Lulu about his summer dalliance with BL, especially after the gross story when Carly tried to break up Dante and Lulu.

  On 3/26/2025 at 7:10 PM, statsgirl said:

What is it with all these Sekrit Children on this show? Dex is dead and Gio is now accounted for. If it's not Vaughan (who cares?) then there is yet another new character I doubt I will care about.

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Don't forget about

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It's funny that so many of the older actors are orange and then Gio and Emma are so pink.

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  On 3/26/2025 at 4:13 PM, dubbel zout said:

I think Kristina has a place on the canvas, but not as someone with such a deranged single-mindedness to seek vengeance for something that everyone but she believes was a terrible accident.

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She's become very one-note.  She was very passionate about opening her LGBTQ center, then she was determined to be a surrogate, then onto the next thing, managing Charlie's.  While having another baby doesn't replace the one that was lost, why doesn't she consider trying again?   It would be better than her daily announcement about how she has suffered due to Ava.

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I'm running out of people to root for on this show.  No one seems to be operating with a fully functioning brain, the bad guys are unrepentant and the good guys are best at morally compromising themselves in service to the bad guys.  I know his character has been described as slimy, but today it was Ezra (DC) who made the most sense in calling Laura out for being too cozy with a mobster, and in confronting Drew for trying to use his political connections to satisfy a personal grievance.  

Emma's curly hair softens her a bit.  Still wondering why her scenes are almost exclusively with Gio, and why there have been under a handful with Anna.  Just seems strange to me that they bothered to give Anna an on-screen family member and then completely forgot about it.  

Wonder what brought on that renal disease screening PSA.  World Renal Day was March 13, but that was then, and this is now.

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Isaiah needs to tell Sonny that with the way things are going, if Sonny doesn't have the heart surgery very soon, he won't last the couple of weeks he thinks he can wait. Though I'm sure what will happen is Sonny will drop at Noted Bigot Natalia's feet and she'll have to call an ambulance for him to have emergency surgery at GH. So all of Sonny's dumb attempts at secrecy will be for naught. And then Super Agent Joss will somehow have to deal with the mob fallout from the power vacuum without anyone realizing what she's doing. Jason will figure it out, naturally, and glower at Brennan for luring Joss into the lonely spy life.

I'm surprised Kristina hasn't scratched out Irene's name on the headstone and changed it to Adela.

  On 3/26/2025 at 7:44 PM, JMO said:

Wonder what brought on that renal disease screening PSA. 

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That was quite the PSA. I bet someone on the cast/crew/writing staff is affected.

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  On 3/26/2025 at 12:40 AM, Cheyanne11 said:

Oh, ffs, is Sonny pulling an Edward Q 'give me my pills' with Ava?  I hate this show.

Also, shut up, Lulu, with your "BL is making me keep a secret" narrative.  YOU'RE the one who went snooping around--this is on you.

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My first thought was, "Hey, someone remembered Tracy and Edward from back in the day!" Only Ava has no pills to give Sonny. Of course, this will set Kristina's hatred into concrete, even though Sonny won't die, for sure.

Lulu seems to think she has no culpability in this. If she hadn't snooped around, she wouldn't know about Dante & baby, and would be able to go about her life without "lying" about someone else's personal business. I wonder if she would have a problem about keeping quiet about any other secrets, like affairs, etc. or if she's like the Town Cryer.

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Who was Kristina talking to at the grave, mydaughter or Sam? Either way, it sucks that neither can escape her Ava ranting. Get a life, Kristina.

Sonny telling Laura how he had his heart burn situation after wanting to take Avery from Ava was almost a self-aware moment, but he was mumbling so I did not get much of what he was saying. Hey, Sonny. Maybe it's the God you pray to who is tired of your hypocritical ass.

I'm sure that now that Laura knows that Sonny has a health situation, she's going to soften even more toward her. Because she's an idiot.

Drew wanting to destroy the crypt is something. And it hasn't been months. It's between at best 3 weeks. At worst 4 weeks. 

Also, die Drew.

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  On 3/26/2025 at 7:58 PM, dubbel zout said:

I'm surprised Kristina hasn't scratched out Irene's name on the headstone and changed it to Adela.

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I really thought someone, probably Stella because she spoke of her sister Irene to Tracy in the same episode, was going to overhear part of Kristina's monologue while approaching the grave and say to her, "Hasn't the child already suffered enough?"

I'm glad to see Elizabeth and Lucky in the preview for tomorrow.

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  On 3/26/2025 at 8:30 PM, YaddaYadda said:

Who was Kristina talking to at the grave, mydaughter or Sam? Either way, it sucks that neither can escape her Ava ranting. Get a life, Kristina.

Sonny telling Laura how he had his heart burn situation after wanting to take Avery from Ava was almost a self-aware moment, but he was mumbling so I did not get much of what he was saying. Hey, Sonny. Maybe it's the God you pray to who is tired of your hypocritical ass.

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It would be great if one of them haunted Kristina to tell her that if the only reason she comes by is to whine, she should go somewhere else. 

(My emphasis on second paragraph) Maybe God is ready to call him home (and hopefully give him a nice long time out in the hotter regions).

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Since when does a Congressman have the authority to order a disputed property to be torn down immediately? Don't these kinds of things have to go through court? I can see Drew turning (?) into one of those clowns in Congress. I still don't want him to be killed - being a gadfly is more entertaining.

Also, why is Tracy appointing herself the person who needs to know everything about everyone's life? 

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  On 3/26/2025 at 7:58 PM, dubbel zout said:

I'm surprised Kristina hasn't scratched out Irene's name on the headstone and changed it to Adela.

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I'm SHOCKED she does not show up for visits with her own grave marker that she places over Irene's that says:

Baby Adela

MY daughter

Killed by Ava, 2024 

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  On 3/26/2025 at 4:27 PM, GHScorpiosRule said:

But that still doesn't explain how she's bankrupt and broke. Like I posted upthread, she was wealthy in her own right before she married Nik. No explanation as to how she lost all that money.

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She apparently bought a new gallery on the assumption that she'd have the luxury of waiting to sell the old one because of her fortune. So her money is apparently all tied up in business....But of course, fortunes are very fluid on GH. 

I don't mind a "who killed Drew" storyline if it turns out the real Drew is being held prisoner somewhere. Then we can retain the actor, and some semblance of the good guy he was when played by Bill Miller and early CM.

Also -- I'm sure you guys have already pointed this out, but why can't the Qs just formally buy the part of the property the crypts are on? I realize it's hard to buy public land, but even IRL it is very bad PR to dig up bodies, so I doubt it would be a tough sell to the residents.

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  On 3/27/2025 at 1:47 AM, Artsda said:

Ava wants Sonny dead so she can take her daughters inheritance to pay her taxes and bills.  Kristina can kill her anytime. 

Drew wants to destroy the crypt with his father, siblings and grandparents? Disgusting. 

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Ava would have been fine with a dead Sonny even when her bank accounts were full. 

  On 3/23/2025 at 7:15 PM, Bringonthedrama said:

Maybe I missed something - when were Sam and Maxie best friends? I remember them bonding over their dislike/jealousy of Elizabeth back when young Maxie wanted GV's Lucky to leave Elizabeth for her and Sam resented the long-time friendship/attraction between Elizabeth and Jason. They've also had a bond through their relationships with Spinelli and Jason and I remember Sam showed up for support once after Nathan was killed, but I don't recall them having a consistent friendship separate from the men in their lives.

I don't think this (adult version) of Maxie would bring up Georgie. Her sister has been deceased for a long time now and she got married as a teenager because she was ill, expecting to die.  That's not really comparable to adult relationships/marriages with children 

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It started out as mutual dislike of Liz but it became more than that. Sam was in the middle of the tmk trying to find the killer with Maxie. She was helping Sam with Jason, when he proposed, got the ring, giving Sam advice. Their friendship had nothing to do with her friendship nor her unfortunately relationship with the hermit. She helped with both of Sam's baby showers, wedding to Jason not caring about Jason dying, Sam was there for her relationship with Nathan/After, tried to talk sense into her about Bootleg, She apologized to her, defended Drew, she was there for her when she was in her depression state, needing a place to live asking reaching out to Dante for her to live in Lante old place. Even if they were not best friends that is no way to treat your friend who is risking her life to help bring your friend back to life at all. That's no way to treat someone who you love and have been bf with over 18+ years. If Lumax friendship is that strong there is no reason to trash and spit on what Sam and Maxie have especially before she could even stand Lulu. It's not only disrespect to Sam but also Dante cause it takes away his agency, his ability to stand on his own away from Lulu, Lante & to love someone deeply besides Lulu.

It might not bother you but I'm a MaxieFF and I don't want my favorite looking fake two faced disloyal. This show doesn't treat her like the legacy she is and unfortunately too often this show rewrites her history to prop whatever pet, agenda or plot point they want to push. It's been going since she 1st got with Spinsuck. I'm also hypersensitive cause unlike Robin, Young Laura, Teen, Early 20s Liz and Georgie? Maxie has been plagued by terrible writing. I just want Maxie to tell Lulu about Brooklyn saving her daughter risking her life helping Maxie so she can stfu about Brooklyn and lose the smug smirk.

As far as Georgie and Dillons marriage goes a marriage is a marriage it doesn't matter why they got married, it doesn't matter that they were teenagers it doesn't absolve Lulu destroying it, making Georgie out to be a whore cause she wanted her step brother & her rapist sperms donors attention. GQ marriage isn't any less real cause of the circumstances that brought them there. What they shared isn't any less than adult relationships it's even better than a lot of them including Lulu's and all of Maxie's besides Nathan. It doesn't make Lulu's actions any less heinous cause of it or her age.

As far as adult Maxie not bringing up what happened as teenager because she is an adult? Nope she would she was just bitching about Liz twice in the last couple months really don't even know why besides to prop Waffles about what she did as a teenager & Liz lying about Jake's paternity and supposedly blaming her and Lucky the affair, addiction enabling as to why she lied and Liz looking down on her. Liz's looks down on her cause she fucked her husband. Don't know wtf she was talking about 

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OMG that heart attack was the funniest thing I’ve ever seen. MB clutching his stomach? Did he have a tummy ache? Lol! And when we came back to that scene, it’s like the director said ‘Mo, your heart is in your chest, not your stomach!’ Anyway, I guess we’re going to have another ‘withhold heart medication’ story. 

Damn Carly’s hair looked good after spending a night or two in the hospital. Does GH have hairstylists on staff now?

elizabeth really should mine her own business before she gets caught up in Portia’s legal troubles. And Ric shouldn’t be talking to her at ALL about it.

I really liked the Maxie/Lucas scenes. They’re fun together.

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I did have to laugh because it’s like he was confused. He was clutching his stomach and then tried moving to his heart but got confused. Of course, reading the cue cards before dropping to the ground confused him too. Hysterical!

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  On 3/27/2025 at 1:06 AM, Auntie Velvet said:

I don't mind a "who killed Drew" storyline if it turns out the real Drew is being held prisoner somewhere. Then we can retain the actor, and some semblance of the good guy he was when played by Bill Miller and early CM.

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I think that ship sailed and I cannot watch CM put his hands over his heart because he's saying something that's sincere or trying to convince someone that he is wise.

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  On 3/27/2025 at 11:10 AM, YaddaYadda said:

I think that ship sailed and I cannot watch CM put his hands over his heart because he's saying something that's sincere or trying to convince someone that he is wise.

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I think evil Drew is here to stay, which I don't really mind except the reason for his heel turn seems to be that his childhood wasn't good. Zzzz. For a guy who's desperate to be part of a family, he's doing an excellent job of making sure he never will be. Trying to uproot the family crypt is never going to endear you to the rest of the clan.

And I still don't understand why the Qs aren't telling every media outlet in town about this. You want to crush Drew? Bad press is the way to do it. FFS. At least pay lip service to why that's not happening.

This fakakta show. I can accept a lot of lunacy—it's a soap, they have 200+ episodes to write every year—but the GH writers consistently ignore what's right in front of their faces. Most of the time a couple of lines is all that's needed, and they can't be bothered to do even that. I honestly don't get it.

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  On 3/27/2025 at 12:06 PM, dubbel zout said:

And I still don't understand why the Qs aren't telling every media outlet in town about this. You want to crush Drew? Bad press is the way to do it. FFS. At least pay lip service to why that's not happening.

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The only people who seem to be trying to do something are Gio and Emma. Why hasn't Emma posted her recording online? 

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  On 3/27/2025 at 12:06 PM, dubbel zout said:

And I still don't understand why the Qs aren't telling every media outlet in town about this. You want to crush Drew? Bad press is the way to do it. FFS. At least pay lip service to why that's not happening.

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I've been wondering what happened to the recording Emma did when Drew showed up with the surveyor and crew?

  On 3/27/2025 at 1:41 PM, YaddaYadda said:

The only people who seem to be trying to do something are Gio and Emma. Why hasn't Emma posted her recording online? 

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JINX! I was wondering the same thing! It's like she never recorded it!

And my eyes couldn't roll hard enough when Mooby was telling Laura how all of a sudden, he's filled with rage that he can't control.

Please. He's always been a petulant raging monster.

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  On 3/27/2025 at 1:47 AM, Artsda said:

Ava wants Sonny dead so she can take her daughters inheritance to pay her taxes and bills.  Kristina can kill her anytime. 

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Just think if Kristina were aware of Sonny saying he was going to kill Ava as soon as she gave birth.  He can take a seat about not wanting to have a child with Ava, yet was willing to have cryptsex with her. 

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  On 3/27/2025 at 5:42 PM, ciarra said:

Just think if Kristina were aware of Sonny saying he was going to kill Ava as soon as she gave birth. 

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These days, she'd ask him why he didn't.

I hate the general attitude on this show that the men just can't help themselves to sex but the women bear the brunt of the scorn if they get pregnant.

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This episode REALLY hit me in the LnL2 feels!!  No dark secrets between them, just loving looks. Loved the use of flashbacks to their teenage selves during the NYC trip!  Lucky's surprise as a lead-up to his invitation was the kind of thoughtful, sweet gesture Elizabeth deserves. 

Kristina, Avery is not 2. She does not need to be escorted to her nanny in the playroom just so you can get your claws out again in private.

Looks like Ava is unhappy with the idea of Ric and Alexis making peace.

Jason gives not a thought to his sons or Sasha as he and Sonny take off with their guns and leave U.S. soil to confront a fire bomber. Of course. And Sasha not realizing she needs to think about the birth certificate is typical of this character too. 

Brick looks ridiculous in a lavender suit and the character is as loathsome as Sonny is, but I enjoyed his scowl at seeing that Jordan is happily dating someone half his age.

ETA: I really hope the nuLulu and Lucky scene in the preview is not her discouraging Lucky because she's projecting hurt and anger about the "secret" Dante/BLQ past onto Elizabeth and Lucky.

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Lucas is upset that Brad blackmailed Portia to get close to him. Not that Portia did something so bad that she needs a lawyer to get her out of it.

Also Lucas, who now is a renal specialist as well as a trauma and ER surgeon, thinks that people should do their own medical research. Do real doctors agree?

Whatever Becky Herbst is doing to keep looking 30 years younger, I want some.

The Esplanade/Pier discussion makes no sense.  The original reason for rejecting the pier is because it has no infrastructure and it would cost too much to put it in. So why is everyone suddenly saying it's a good idea?

Sonny, you do realize that you can't take a gun to Toronto, right?  Canada has laws against that.(Americans are always surprised when border officials take their guns away.) Also Jason, I'm pretty sure that the cardiologists in Toronto can handle anything that may happen to Sonny.

The way Sasha keeps going to Jason about the baby, I expect him to be pretty fed up with her by now.

  On 3/27/2025 at 2:54 AM, norahs99 said:

Ava would have been fine with a dead Sonny even when her bank accounts were full. 

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The number of times Sonny has told her that if it weren't for Avery she would be dead, Ava has reason.

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  On 3/27/2025 at 7:15 PM, Bringonthedrama said:

This episode REALLY hit me in the LnL2 feels!!  No dark secrets between them, just loving looks. Loved the use of flashbacks to their teenage selves during the NYC trip!  Lucky's surprise as a lead-up to his invitation was the kind of thoughtful, sweet gesture Elizabeth deserves. 

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Happy Jonah Hill GIF

  On 3/27/2025 at 7:15 PM, Bringonthedrama said:

ETA: I really hope the nuLulu and Lucky scene in the preview is not her discouraging Lucky because she's projecting hurt and anger about the "secret" Dante/BLQ past onto Elizabeth and Lucky.

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Aw HELLS NAW! What does any of this have anything to do with Lucky and Elizabeth?! Please take several seats.

I'm not sure why but I like Lucas and Elizabeth being thick as thieves. It reminds me a bit of Brad and Britt (BFF). And two thumbs up for the LL2 flashbacks. 

I feel like they are setting up a 'Kristina tries to take out Ava' story. Kristina going to the dark side seems inevitable, since nothing else has worked for the character so as long as she misses I'm okay with it. 

Did anyone else get weird vibes from the Morgan/Michael photo at the end. Was that DG and would they really bring him back? (I looked away for a minute and only caught a glimpse of the picture.)

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