S07.E02: They Don’t Know

[Gobi]

Jennnifffer has to be in the top three.

[RoxiP]

17 minutes ago, BallisticNikki said:

You're entitled to your opinion, I suppose! (I agree Kirlyam was pretty, tho.)

Everyone will jump on me, I'm sure. But I think Pao is 2nd. No, wait, Miriam from Paris is 2nd and Pao is 3rd. I could be forgetting someone but I doubt it. 

💣💥💫

[ducks, covers head and runs out]

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Who is the best looking guy?

I think Pao is beautiful and all of the other women you mentioned, along with Julietta.  I did think Miriam was extremely lovely.

I think Alexei (Loren's husband) is very attractive, but he looks a lot like my ex so I guess I have a type.  I really can't think of another guy who I found attractive - if they were good looking their actions kind of turned me off.

[blubld43]

I honestly can't think of a single guy on here I find appealing. IMO Jay is appealing physically, his attitude is another matter. 

Most beautiful women: Kirlyam, Juliana, Pao, Olga, Maria, maybe Avery.

ETA: I would LOVE to just hang out with Dean and Tarik!

Edited November 13, 2019 by blubld43

[DaphneCat]

2 hours ago, Bryce Lynch said:

And BALLISTICNIKKI can be his "voice of reason" friend, who he ignores when she warns him the woman only wants to harvest American dollars and get a green card.  

That's it.  Somehow, we have to get someone on this show.  We can all participate.  I call dibs on being the nasty friend who makes accusations about the fiance(e) and threatens to interrupt the wedding.  I promise to dress inappropriately for said wedding and scowl ferociously all through it (though I will not, actually, interrupt it - unless the participant WANTS a scene, then OF COURSE I will😈)

[BallisticNikki]

Can someone plz remind me of who Maria is?

[FrancescaFiore]

I agree that Kirlyam is one of the prettiest women to have been on this show. Also, as much as it pains me and her personality takes away from it, I think Chantel is really pretty. NO idea why she's attracted to Pedro. His family is almost as insufferable as hers.

Pao was so much prettier before she decided to be a model. She's just way overdone now.  And Russ is just the personification of "meh" for me. Avery is really pretty as well, but also has a personality that makes her less attractive. 

Sadly, I haven't found a single one of the dudes attractive. Paul has nice blue eyes and white teeth, but he's SUCH A DRAMA QUEEN, I just find him to be intolerable.

[BallisticNikki]

36 minutes ago, blubld43 said:

I honestly can't think of a single guy on here I find appealing. IMO Jay is appealing physically, his attitude is another matter. 

Most beautiful women: Kirlyam, Juliana, Pao, Olga, Maria, maybe Avery.

ETA: I would LOVE to just hang out with Dean and Tarik!

There was a really cute, frat-boy looking guy (American) from season 1 who married a woman named Evelyn from a South American country. He was there watching soccer, I think. I can't remember his name. He was very nice looking. I though Patrick ("happity ass" met Miriam in Paris) was nice looking, albeit very short and had a stupid hairdo. I like Omar (Avery). And - go easy on the beat down - but I always thought Jesse was good looking. Sasha is handsome, too.

edited to add - Pedro, too.

7 minutes ago, FrancescaFiore said:

I agree that Kirlyam is one of the prettiest women to have been on this show. Also, as much as it pains me and her personality takes away from it, I think Chantel is really pretty. NO idea why she's attracted to Pedro. His family is almost as insufferable as hers.

Pao was so much prettier before she decided to be a model. She's just way overdone now.  And Russ is just the personification of "meh" for me. Avery is really pretty as well, but also has a personality that makes her less attractive. 

Sadly, I haven't found a single one of the dudes attractive. Paul has nice blue eyes and white teeth, but he's SUCH A DRAMA QUEEN, I just find him to be intolerable.

Wow, see, I think Pedro has the looks in that relationship. (I forgot all about him. He's kind of a cutie).

Edited November 13, 2019 by BallisticNikki

[FrancescaFiore]

It seems like the guys on this show all prioritized being attracted to the woman's BODY. All of the foreign women pursued by American men have BANGIN' bodies, but some are definitely "butter faces." (*cough*Karine*cough*)

[Pepper Mostly]

20 minutes ago, BallisticNikki said:

Can someone plz remind me of who Maria is?

Maria is Caesar's true love! From Ukraine!

I too think she is very pretty. I think Pao has a face like a smacked ass, but a nice body. Kirlyam, Aleksandra, and whats her name, the South African girl who married the Mormon boy Danny, she was pretty too. I think Olga wins for me. She had a nice, open, pretty face.

[BallisticNikki]

4 minutes ago, FrancescaFiore said:

It seems like the guys on this show all prioritized being attracted to the woman's BODY. All of the foreign women pursued by American men have BANGIN' bodies, but some are definitely "butter faces." (*cough*Karine*cough*)

Poor Jenny is the only exception. Leida is teetering really close. But both still outbang their fiancees by a mile! 

1 minute ago, Pepper Mostly said:

Maria is Caesar's true love! From Ukraine!

I too think she is very pretty. I think Pao has a face like a smacked ass, but a nice body. Kirlyam, Aleksandra, and whats her name, the South African girl who married the Mormon boy Danny, she was pretty too. I think Olga wins for me. She had a nice, open, pretty face.

Dohhhhh! Yes, she was beautiful, too!

[Kath94]

28 minutes ago, DaphneCat said:

That's it.  Somehow, we have to get someone on this show.  We can all participate.  I call dibs on being the nasty friend who makes accusations about the fiance(e) and threatens to interrupt the wedding.  I promise to dress inappropriately for said wedding and scowl ferociously all through it (though I will not, actually, interrupt it - unless the participant WANTS a scene, then OF COURSE I will😈)

...but will you ride a scooter? :)

27 minutes ago, FrancescaFiore said:

I agree that Kirlyam is one of the prettiest women to have been on this show. Also, as much as it pains me and her personality takes away from it, I think Chantel is really pretty. NO idea why she's attracted to Pedro. His family is almost as insufferable as hers.

Pao was so much prettier before she decided to be a model. She's just way overdone now.  And Russ is just the personification of "meh" for me. Avery is really pretty as well, but also has a personality that makes her less attractive. 

Sadly, I haven't found a single one of the dudes attractive. Paul has nice blue eyes and white teeth, but he's SUCH A DRAMA QUEEN, I just find him to be intolerable.

This is SO funny.  Men definitely are visual creatures.  Men will rate a woman's appearance strictly on appearance, but women take personality into account.

[magemaud]

1 hour ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

He once had a PARKING TICKET he forgot to pay!!!  HORRORS!!!

and then there's that VHS tape he rented and didn't rewind! AND he removed that tag from his mattress! 

Edited November 13, 2019 by magemaud

[Adeejay]

Alexei seems like a great guy, so that adds to his appeal. I find the two Jamaicans, Devar and Jay and also Sasha easy on the eyes. However, their actions leave a lot to be desired.

I can’t believe Robert is taking Anny clothes shopping at Goodwill. I’ve noticed that a lot of the K-1 sponsors don’t appear to have a pot to piss in. I am having a difficult time understanding how they qualified to sponsor someone for a K-1 visa. What is the minimum wage cut-off?

Edited November 13, 2019 by Adeejay

[Azubah]

2 minutes ago, Adeejay said:

What is the minimum wage cut-off?

In one episode, an immigration lawyer told Pole that it's $26K annually. So that's about $13 per hour. 

In Denver, if you are 15 years old and can pass the class, you can make $13 an hour as a lifeguard. You don't even have to pass a drug test.

Edited November 13, 2019 by Azubah

[DaphneCat]

32 minutes ago, Kath94 said:

...but will you ride a scooter? 🙂

Will absolutely ride the scooter.  Will ride off in a huff if required.

[Mrs. Hanson]

Who was that couple from Kentucky (he was from there) and she was from Ukraine with a son named Max?  She was very pretty and I liked her as she was so forthright about things.  He had a weird BFF who was overly involved in his love life.  

1 hour ago, Kath94 said:

Men definitely are visual creatures.  Men will rate a woman's appearance strictly on appearance, but women take personality into account.

Yeppers!!  Men are truly visual creatures who then get annoyed when said vision of beauty actually talks.  I like a good looking man, I mean hello - but you gotta have the goods in terms of brains and ability to talk or else we are a no go.

[Hangin Out]

22 hours ago, RealReality said:

I'm not a man but I think for some it probably seems less seedy than trolling the mall for young girls to date or being that grandpa in the club that most young women laugh at.  

I think for others it's a control issue.  Financial control, control of the green card.  A hot young American twenty something can probably find some douchey finance bro, doctor or software engineer her own age or only slightly older.  

For others, I think they feel it looks more classy if they have a young, exotic "model/student" instead of an American girl.  

True.  I never thought of it that way. 

[Scarlett45]

17 hours ago, magemaud said:

All she said was the boys' father "hadn't been in their lives for a couple of years." Since the boys are reportedly "full brothers" and their ages are 15, 14 and 6, there might be a story about the 8 year gap between Gino and Leo. 

A “fix it” baby maybe? Or hating each other’s guts/living separate lives not focusing on contraception, and a random sexual encounter equaled Leo. 

2 hours ago, FrancescaFiore said:

Sadly, I haven't found a single one of the dudes attractive. Paul has nice blue eyes and white teeth, but he's SUCH A DRAMA QUEEN, I just find him to be intolerable.

I think Pedro is cute, but in a very normal way. Aladdin is HOT, Michael is ADORABLE, Jay is attractive but looks like you’ll catch something fooling with him, and I agree about Paul. He’s got good genes but he’s so damn weird you get distracted. 

[libgirl2]

12 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

A “fix it” baby maybe? Or hating each other’s guts/living separate lives not focusing on contraception, and a random sexual encounter equaled Leo. 

I think Pedro is cute, but in a very normal way. Aladdin is HOT, Michael is ADORABLE, and I agree about Paul. He’s got good genes but he’s so damn weird you get distracted. 

Aladin and Omar are really good looking and so far seem quite nice. Paul could be such a cutie if he wasn't so weird. 

As for the women, I think Avery is the prettiest. I do think Chantal would look much better if she just toned "it" down. 

Edited November 13, 2019 by libgirl2

[Scarlett45]

6 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

Aladin and Omar are really good looking and so far seem quite nice. Paul could be such a cutie if he wasn't so weird. 

As for the women, I think Avery is the prettiest. 

Yes I think Omar is handsome too. Avery is cute and that baby face will serve her well. 
 

I think Chantal, Anny, Julianna and the young woman who is on pillow talk right now, the USC married to Alexi- she is pretty as well. Rebecca (from The Other Way) is quite a nice looking woman but she’s desperate. 

[FrancescaFiore]

16 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

 Paul could be such a cutie if he wasn't so weird. 

21 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

I agree about Paul. He’s got good genes but he’s so damn weird you get distracted.

Paul being weird and neurotic are the least of his dealbreaker red flags.  What's so off-putting about Paul is that he can go from calm to crazy-emotional in 3 seconds without verbalizing what's going on in his head. He seems to be all about the big, dramatic exit. When he told Karine about his criminal past, he didn't even wait for her to react before storming away into a freaking Amazon jungle to pout, leaving her to have to follow after him. THEN he was all threatening to jump in the water (was he even going to stop and  protect his urethra with a well-fastened condom??) when she tried to coax him out. 

Weird, I can work with. I've got plenty of my own weird. The dramatic exits to go and pout are the big IXNAY for me. I dated someone like that and getting away from him made me feel like the black cat Pepe LePew won't leave alone. He liked dramatic exits too, but like Paul, he just kept coming back.

Edited November 13, 2019 by FrancescaFiore

[libgirl2]

11 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

Yes I think Omar is handsome too. Avery is cute and that baby face will serve her well. 
 

I think Chantal, Anny, Julianna and the young woman who is on pillow talk right now, the USC married to Alexi- she is pretty as well. Rebecca (from The Other Way) is quite a nice looking woman but she’s desperate. 

Loren! Yes I think she is pretty too. 

[magemaud]

59 minutes ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Who was that couple from Kentucky (he was from there) and she was from Ukraine with a son named Max?  She was very pretty and I liked her as she was so forthright about things.  He had a weird BFF who was overly involved in his love life.  

That was Matt and Alla, apparently "fourth time's the charm" in this case

MATT AND ALLA (SEASON 4)

Status: Married
This couple met via an online dating service, but lost contact when Matt married for the third time. They reconnected after that divorce and eventually marry, despite concerns from family members.

Edited November 13, 2019 by magemaud

[FrancescaFiore]

HAHAHAHA! I just got to the part in trashcAngela's first season when Michael says she's fat - and Angela has the audacity to get mad and deny it!

She is one hulking, loud, classless mountain of nope. 

[Spike]

1 hour ago, FrancescaFiore said:

HAHAHAHA! I just got to the part in trashcAngela's first season when Michael says she's fat - and Angela has the audacity to get mad and deny it!

She is one hulking, loud, classless mountain of nope. 

You wonder where she would draw the line for fat.

[FrancescaFiore]

53 minutes ago, Spike said:

You wonder where she would draw the line for fat.

And for what, exactly constitutes a lie! She can't get mad at Michael for both lying AND telling the truth! And yet, here we are...

[SemiCharmedLife]

I also think Kirlyam and Amy are beautiful, as well as this season's Juliana.  Actually there are many beautiful ladies in this franchise.

As for the guys, Omar wins hands down.  I just love his smile (no, it is not a smirk- he is shy.)

[Columbusfoodie]

On 11/10/2019 at 8:39 PM, RealReality said:

LOL, maybe.  All I could see is that they were white and none of them were poking out and so they seemed amazing for this franchise.

Dentistry in Brazil is beyond excellent and in American dollars, relatively cheap. The same could be said for cosmetic surgery. The city I visited in Brazil, the thing that surprised me was the huge income disparity. The poor lived in shacks on the hillsides, while the rich lived in in fenced high rises that had bulletproof windows, or in nice gated houses. My hotel had bulletproof shades that closed at night. And I was in the nice part of the city. Things there get very very dangerous after dark. The city Julianna lives in is very similar in size, so it is entirely possible to be poor and live in a big city.

[HunterHunted]

23 hours ago, Auntie Anxiety said:

Michael should have just bought an Olympics pin and called it a day.

11 hours ago, magemaud said:

or one of those pendants you give a grandmother with all her grandchildren's birthstones. 

Red, white, and blue. Yellow and green. There's got to be some sort of necklace with a rainbow pendant that fulfills this confused tacky brief.

https://thisisthelast.com/collections/shop

12 hours ago, BallisticNikki said:

Yeah, very few models jet set around the world for their work. Only the top tier land international print/runway/fit work like that consistently. And I think Michael even said he was bringing her here to help her launch her career. So she can't be both an international supermodel and poor, starving aspiring model.

One of the things models used to do and probably still do is move to a new market for a couple of months or years, especially if their local agent thinks the model might get more work elsewhere. Some move to London; others move to Paris, Milan, Tokyo, or Seoul. Sometimes they'll move to a secondary market like LA, Miami, Chicago, Taipei, Munich, Barcelona, or Australia. Maybe Juliana used the paid travel from the yacht party to get to Europe and just bought a cheap ticket to move to a different modeling market.

[RealReality]

Re: the guys - my pick hands down is aladin and it's not even close. 

He could ride my magic carpet that's for damn sure!

[RoadFullOfPromise]

17 hours ago, RealReality said:

18 hours ago, Azubah said:

I seriously don't care if Juliana is a sex worker. I mean, if she was trafficked when she was younger, that's horrible, obviously. But I don't think there's any moral issue with a woman in her early 20s working the party circuit. What difference does it make? Is this a purity-culture thing? I had a few stamps on my passport by age 22. Nobody paid for them, but that's irrelevant. So far, she seems like a nice person. She has a really sweet smile.

And if Michael didn't put a clear limit on her spending, that's on him. He's trying to party with the Jeffrey Epstein crowd, the guys who have literally hundreds of millions of dollars (even billions), and he's in the tens of millions category so a few extra car purchases here and there are noticeable to him. If I were his ex-wife, I'd be keeping an eye on the kids' college funds.

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I don't think michael has as much money as he wants me to think he has.   I would be surprised to learn he is in the tens of millions category

I agree with you 100%.  I was born and raised a few towns away from Greenwich and knew plenty of people with legit money (and old money at that) and... he ain’t it.

[Anduril]

On 11/11/2019 at 12:08 AM, Barbara Please said:

Tania and Syngina are going to be extra thirsty couple of this season. Strong player vibes from him. He's like Jesse. He wants to be a STAR. He tosses his hair around like Fabio in a wind tunnel. He's going to get bored of bossy bitch, and her obnoxious nervous laugh. I don't get her fan club friends who snapped to attention with the flower petals, the champagne and the stupid poster. Didn't seem healthy that they were in the hotel room waiting to be excused. It looked like they wanted to stay and watch. 

The Bee lady and the Turkish Mr. Bean seem very simple. A very awkward coupling. She uses his name constantly,  because it is the only thing he understands besides 'good' 'hello' 'kiss' and 'bees.' Anna's Mother is a horror. Another 90 Day stereotypical American saying stupid things like, "Don't stone my daughter."  And why bring her son into an adult conversation, and worse yet, have him act as google translator.  smdh. 

I'd be booking myself into the nearest hotel, and taking a bubble bath, and make arrangements to go back to the DR if I had to endure Bryson whiny, yelling, and bouncing around on a bed that you are expected to share with him, and clueless 8 hour fiancé after having a long  flight. No bueno. 

If Juliana was denied twice for a visa that doesn't bode well for them. I don't buy Michael's story that she's a model. She's an escort, and was probably passed around since she was 13, or 14.  I have a great deal of sympathy for her, and any other young women who are sex trafficked for rich older men. He gives me the major Jeffrey Epstein creeps. 

Corny 2.0 is a big dummy if she thinks the Russian meathead is going to stay with her. She's a stepping stone for him to get to the USA. 

Model and prostitute are basically the same thing.

[Anduril]

On 11/11/2019 at 8:02 AM, Bryce Lynch said:

Juliana is very pretty, but she is as flat as the plains between Chicago and Nebraska.

I can't fathom why men find women like that attractive.  Gives me pedo vibes when a man is attracted to a woman with the body of a teenage boy.

[Mrs. Hanson]

20 hours ago, gonecrackers said:

I think, from the responses I've seen online boards thus far, Anna may do better than her counterparts. Despite her choices many people want to support bees because they are good for the environment, & the natural honey related products are very marketable.

That said she'll probably be forgotten eventually as well unless she really works to keep herself out there for her business.

One thing I do appreciate about these two is they met because of a specific, shared interest; she didn't go for the younger hottie just to get some D. They can do this business together so they might just make it.

However, I do hope she protects her interests just in case they don't work out.

I agree with everything, especially the last part.  Anna, get a prenup to keep your house in YOUR NAME no matter what and no, he can't have half of it.  Keep your money separate and treat paying bills as it should be,: a business transaction.  I want Anna and Mursel to go far, I do, but the language barrier, his parents being lied to about her kids and now her mom thinking she is going to be beheaded....I am just not sure.

[RealReality]

23 minutes ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

I agree with everything, especially the last part.  Anna, get a prenup to keep your house in YOUR NAME no matter what and no, he can't have half of it.  Keep your money separate and treat paying bills as it should be,: a business transaction.  I want Anna and Mursel to go far, I do, but the language barrier, his parents being lied to about her kids and now her mom thinking she is going to be beheaded....I am just not sure.

To be fair, her mom only thinks she is going to get stoned.  And she asked nicely that it not be done 😉

I'm interested in murcels financial background.  Did he make a living off bees in turkey?  Did he have a job?  

He doesn't know enough English right now to be considered even remotely literate, so i hope her business can afford another employee.  

[Spike]

31 minutes ago, RealReality said:

To be fair, her mom only thinks she is going to get stoned.  And she asked nicely that it not be done 😉

I'm interested in murcels financial background.  Did he make a living off bees in turkey?  Did he have a job?  

He doesn't know enough English right now to be considered even remotely literate, so i hope her business can afford another employee.  

I suppose he could wash dishes at that restaurant with the giant nachos.

[Anduril]

On 11/11/2019 at 11:54 PM, Callaphera said:

I dunno, there are some sex workers who not only enjoy their work but want to be in the industry. If I were young and hot enough and my knees didn't double for the Rice Krispie commercial sound effects and I found out that a couple of blowies or handies could get me free yacht trips, all you can drink booze, and the chance to snag a rich husband? Pass the lotion and the mouthwash, I'd be considering a career change. Sure would've beat some of those customer service jobs I suffered through. 

Are you serious?

[Mrs. Hanson]

53 minutes ago, RealReality said:

To be fair, her mom only thinks she is going to get stoned.  And she asked nicely that it not be done 😉

MamaAnna has been talking to Sumit on how to give a beat down:  "If you could please not behead my daughter.....that would be great.  And no stoning her for having a cocktail.  Thanks much!!!"

[RealReality]

44 minutes ago, Spike said:

I suppose he could wash dishes at that restaurant with the giant nachos.

You and I both know that the patrons of the keno casino restaurant lick their plates clean and that the dishes are not washed between uses.   Come on now. 

[OrchidThief]

On 11/10/2019 at 12:05 AM, Kareem said:

Surprising that Michael gave Juliana credit cards so that among other things, she would always have food, and she used one to buy a CAR.  His too tight shirts must be affecting the natural flow to his brains. 

Or to his head.

[BallisticNikki]

17 hours ago, FrancescaFiore said:

I'm stealing this.

3 hours ago, Anduril said:

Model and prostitute are basically the same thing.

As a former model, I can assure, they're not.

Edited November 14, 2019 by BallisticNikki

[OrchidThief]

On 11/10/2019 at 6:25 AM, blubld43 said:

Also, "babies right away"? Here we go with Tiffany and Ronald again, a couple with no home or sufficient income having a child immediately.

I bet he can find off-the-books cash work (catering bartender, construction, etc). Guy seems pretty entrepreneurial.

[magemaud]

16 minutes ago, BallisticNikki said:

3 hours ago, Anduril said:

Model and prostitute are basically the same thing.

As a former model, I can assure, they're not.

As a former prostit...never mind 

[OrchidThief]

On 11/11/2019 at 5:03 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

Bee Keeper lady is more concerned with getting laid than anything else

There actually seems there's a fetishist culture out there regarding beekeepers. https://www.wussymag.com/all/2019/5/22/7-other-professions-to-fetishize-instead-of-cops

[magemaud]

On 11/14/2019 at 10:42 AM, OrchidThief said:

I bet he can find off-the-books cash work (catering bartender, construction, etc). Guy seems pretty entrepreneurial

In the previews, doesn’t he have a long list of what he wants to do including being a model, and something about Hollywood and Oprah? 

Correction: just saw the commercial again and he says he could be a bartender or a fireman OR go to Hollywood auditions or go on Oprah. Nothing about modeling ...YET! 

Oprah, if by any chance you’re reading this, I will lose all respect for you if you give this clown any airtime. 

edited again to add: This reminds me of when you ask a child what they want to be when they grow up and they say something like, "A football player, an astronaut, a doctor or a superhero..." 

Edited November 16, 2019 by magemaud

[OrchidThief]

20 hours ago, BallisticNikki said:

Can someone plz remind me of who Maria is?

The fake Ukranian who stood up jug-eared Cesar in Mexico.

[KateHearts]

I'm rather fascinated about the talk here regarding prostitution vs modeling vs sex-industry workers as just another part of the workforce. Some are saying "hey, there are women in the sex industry who want to do it;" which I am sure is the case in some situations... but when we are talking about women from impoverished countries who are selling sex for money because they need to make a living to survive? I'm hard-pressed to consider that they are willing participants in the sex industry. And I'd even venture to guess that even those who say that they are doing it by choice are still allowing their bodies to be taken advantage of for the exchange of money. It's never an equal transaction, in my book, for a man to be wielding financial control over a woman for sexual acts. 

As for the "modeling" label, we've seen that title very loosely used on this show numerous times. Again, when one has a pretty face or a hot body and lives in a country where education and jobs are few and far between, then becoming a "model" is a possibility as a means to escape abject poverty- and even to help support the family as well. Aspiring to be a model- by shooting some attractive photos - doesn't *make* one a model, although it seems to be interchangeable on 90DF. Michael mentions that Juliana is a model, yet he then says that he will bring her here to "help grow her modeling business." That doesn't seem to give the impression that she has an established career as a model.

Just now, OrchidThief said:

The fake Ukranian who stood up jug-eared Cesar in Mexico.

Except she wasn't fake. She just took the game a little too far.

[OrchidThief]

2 hours ago, RealReality said:

To be fair, her mom only thinks she is going to get stoned. 

And pot's not even legal in Nebraska!

2 minutes ago, KateHearts said:

Except she wasn't fake. She just took the game a little too far.

Pretty sure TLC just hired a random Ukrainian for the tell-all

[OrchidThief]

On 11/11/2019 at 10:35 PM, OldButHappy said:

On 11/11/2019 at 6:22 PM, moonbunnychan said:

"Whore" is a really ugly word.

Agree wholeheartedly.  And there's no equivalent word for the men.

Lots of gay men use it too, but generally in a joking sense.

[Spike]

1 minute ago, OrchidThief said:

Lots of gay men use it too, but generally in a joking sense.

I prefer slut because I don’t charge.