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Let me preface this by saying that I'm no fan of Bridge, but Bill is the love of Brooke's life?? Did she actually say that? They were together for like 4 months before the ill-fated wedding that wasn't, and I honestly can't remember exactly what happened after that (I think she did "Dancing with the Stars" abroad, but didn't Brooke release Bill so he could be with Katie & Will?). There is no man in the world that will ever be the love of Brooke's life except for Ridge, and their 20+-year-history proves it. Not Eric, not Deacon, not Nick, all of whom she was more in love with/serious about than she was $Bill. Again, I'm no Bridge fan, and I'd actually argue that she wasn't the love of his life, but without a doubt, he was most definitely the love of hers. *snaps fingers* Just like that. I am looking forward to Katie going off on them. At least they didn't drag it out for months this time.

Ugh, I promise, promise, promise to quit bitching about all of the fantasy sequences if we can just make the final Brill conversation from today a fantasy sequence. I also want a unicorn, a size-2 butt that's unaffected by my peanut butter addiction, and to go back in time to last Wednesday, while retaining the full knowledge of the correct Powerball numbers.

Almost worse than the off-screen separation of DeaQuinn, when she was talking to Wyatt, Quinn specifically mentioned (paraphrased): "Deacon wasn't a Spencer man, and it seems like they're the only ones who really capture my heart". How long before she's boning Liam, especially since she was with him during his collapse? She actually didn't look like she was rushing to save him, but I'm sure she will. I give it one month, if Steam stay broken up that long. Gag, I wish Wyatt would get on Sasha or something, just so he could get away from Liam's leftovers and actually be with someone his brother hadn't discarded.Of those two, I'd pick Wyatt any day...until I met Quinn.

The good news? It was just a fantaasy sequence. The bad news? It was $Bill's instead of Brooke's. Now they're both having fantasies about groping each other before lunch on her first day at Spencer Publications. This is going to be a looooooong storyline.

My personal favorite part of this whole whackadoo LA-Australia-LA flight story is that Liam leaves during LA-daylight, lands in Australia in the LA-darkness, as evidenced by Steffy sitting in the dark when Wyatt shows up (which is plausible, but then it gets fishy), then lands back in LA in LA-darkness, let's call it 14-ish hours later. He's so late that Steffy and Wyatt are sacked-out cold in the dark, which I would assume would make the time later in the evening/early-morning. Yet, Maya, Rick, Zenda, Nicole & Sasha are all happily working away at Forrester Creations, & presumably have been since before the first flight across the ocean, completely unaware of the time! **I watch this while eating lunch, so some of my time table may not be 100% accurate, but mine is way better than TPTB's time table!

Can someone refresh my mind about Reggie cheating on Kim? I'm sure it was reported in the media, but I honestly can't remember it. I actually thought Kim was the cheater on Reggie with Kanye. I remember Amber Rose (I think, maybe it was the Kanye-girl before her) saying that Kim was texting naked selfies to Kanye while she was with Reggie and Kanye was with said-girl. Even at her bachelorette party to Kanye, Kim mentioned that when she first met Kanye, he called her that night, or really soon afterwards, and they talked all night. When the conversation ended, he asked her what they were going to do about their "connection" (TM "Bachelor"), and she said "nothing, I have a boyfriend", which I assumed was Reggie, because of the time frame, plus she'd have dumped Hump or anyone else in a nanosecond for someone of Kanye's stature. On a different note, I found it funny that last week when that unknown dude rushed the stage during "The Talk's" People's Choice Awards' win, and Sharon Osborne literally kicked his ass off the stage, he was lambasted in the media. However, last year at the Grammy's, when Kanye made his presence known and almost interrupted the winner of the biggest award of the night (I know he didn't actually reach the stage, but he started up the stairs before returning to his seat, making the biggest moment of Beck's career all.about.Kanye), the media was all "Oh, that Kanye, he must be heard!". Gag, I wish he'd never be invited to an awards show ever again.

I think I actually might have mistyped or not been clear. I totally agree that this is the life Kim has chosen for herself, and for right now, she probably is perfectly happy with "stuff". To me, the sad thing is that she will never truly be happy with all of the stuff that Kanye buys her, because, ultimately, she'll never really have love with him, becasue that "stuff" doesn't truly make you happy & they have nothing in the way of substance in their relationship (it looks like that to me, anyway). She has a warped view of life, but I think at the end of the day she probably does want that one person to love (Reggie to her). She's just devoid of emotion these days, except for mean-spiritdness when making fun of someone. Even when she talks about North, it's never with any affectation or emotion. She might as well be talking about a donut hole. It's just sad. Not that I'm throwing her a pity-party, I just think she had so much more, and she could've had so much more of life, but she let it go and settled for this arrangement with Kanye.

Oh, Reggie Bush...if you pooled the attractiveness of every other man who's ever graced the show, they'd collectively fall short of the hotness that is Reggie Bush. He is just one fine specimen. Not only that, but Kim was so pretty when she was with him - she wore color and smiled! She hadn't completely altered her face yet, so she was still stunningly beautiful. I firmly believe that Reggie is the love of her life, and I'd bet that somewhere down the line, if he's ever available again, they'll get back together, after Kanye comes out & marries his bf, of course. She genuinely looked happy & in love when she was with Reggie & even when she spoke about him, not the vacant look that she has with Kanye. I actually think she looked happy when she was with Hump, too, because, again, the smiling and color in her clothes, but it wasn't like Reggie. At this point, I've probably put more thought into this than Kim, but to me, the setup that she has with Kanye (I'll just never believe it's a "real" relationship), has left her in a total depression, where she's devoid of personality of any kind, including in her clothing. Ugh, now I actually feel bad for Kim in a way.

Like most of you, I loved the episode! It was just the perfect way for the two of them to have sex for the first time ever (individually and together). It wasn't mushy, but it wasn't like Sheldon was only doing it because Amy wanted to. It was his idea. It really was perfect. The funniest part of the episode for me was kind of unintentional, I think. When Amy said "let's go get me waxed!", all I could think is that Sheldon is very unfamiliar with female genitalia, and his knowledge is probably limited to National Geographic pictures and things like that, so I highly doubt that he'd notice if she was waxed or not. Totally not a nitpick, it was just funny that they all thought she should be prepared, as if Sheldon hooks up with women all the time.

That's funny that you specifically mentioned the actress who plays Nicole's acting abilities. I agree that she's not good, either, but in their scene today, I was thinking 'wow, (the actress who plays) Nicole looks like Meryl Streep next to Cher-flipper'.

"Sasha" might actually be the worst actress to ever grace this show of ours. She is absolutely beautiful, but she is no actress. Oh, and Nicole, remember that little thing about Wyatt "dating" you to get info, getting that "secret" info, and then immediately telling his media mogul father, who then outed Maya as transgender to the whole world? How Nicole could stand there and say that he and Liam were "such nice guys" just blows my mind. Her preggo hormones have made her crazy.

Any time I can stop what I'm doing and think about JR Ewing for a minute is just a highlight of my day, so thank you, Bannana! Here's the thing, though, JR lost. He lost often, and he lost big. Victor never, ever, ever loses. He never pays for his myriad of crimes, but when a crime is committed against him, the committer always pays. Plus, for all of his many faults, JR truly loved his family. I know he & Bobby fought, but JR always loved him. Not as much as he loved Jock or John Ross, but he did love him. Victor "loves" his family when they do exactly what he wants, and he punishes them if they don't. He has no clue what love is. Honestly, if they'd trace that back to his being raised as an orphan (I'm not sure what portion of his life he spent in an orphanage, but I know some), and show how he's genuinely learning to love people for who they are in his twilight years, because he never had the benefit of learning that in youth like most people do, that'd actually be a great story. I'll still never like him, but it'd be a good start. The biggest difference, though, to me at least, JR Ewing had more charm in his pinky hangnail than Victor has ever had in his decrepit body. No matter how horrible JR was, he could charm everyone out of being mad, men, women, kids, he just had it. Victor is literally no charm, all cash. I'd love a character based on JR Ewing to come in and wipe out Victor, but you'd be hard-pressed to find any actor who possesses the Larry Hagman charm, it was one-of-a-kind. Sigh, I still miss him.

I watched a block of this week's shows last night, and either I might be a little dumber than I thought, or Michael is way smarter than I thought, or maybe, I'm just a bad Mommy. I'm currently pregnant with my 2nd, and I actually did get pregnant in July, not May, like Sabrina may or may not have. I'm 22 weeks today, so just about the same time as Sabrina is claiming she conceived. I've given birth to one child, and had multiple ultrasounds for this 2nd one, and when I have an ultrasound, I can barely make out the arms and legs (granted, my ultrasounds are more for the medical information than for the 3D pix like their recent one was, but I've had several). Last week, I genuinely thought my son's butt was his head. Either I'm a really bad Mommy, or Michael Q is really smart and gifted at ultrasound images, because there's no way I'd know that my son was measuring big or small (he's fine, by the way) just from an ultrasound image. Let me say that I have to see a neonatologist for several factors, so the ultrasounds I receive may just be more for tracking the organs and measuring growth than for the 3D images like they had, but I always have to ask about his growth and what we're looking at. The ultrasound tech actually said to me at the last ultrasound "there's his junk", because, I didn't have a clue what I was looking at. Also, hadn't Sabrina & Michael already had the sexy times by May? I'm thinking Michael gave Avery back to Sonny in the spring-ish, and they were either sleeping together right before, or right after, so my guess is that this kiddo turns out to be Michael's anyway. Ironically, I was also pregnant last time Sabrina was, when she was pregnant with Gabriel, and I had to stop watching until that storyline was over. I know she gets a lot of hate for her Pollyana ways, rightfully so, but kudos to her for playing that whole Gabriel storyline out while being pregnant in real life, because I couldn't even watch it.

I genuinely mean this, thank you so much for posting. I've often thought someone in my own life was an undiagnosed narcissist, and this has proven me correct. This is the most valuable piece of information that I have ever gained from anything Kardashian-related. Bible!

Full confession: I'm a total psychology nerd, but did anyone else notice that Nicole & Rick were wearing somewhat matching checkered blue & red/pink shirts? Hmmmm, wonder if that was forewarning about who the "team" is? I continue to love Julius and his brand of honesty. Brooke, however, annoys me. I'm sure if the situation was reversed, and Raya asked Hope to give up her first born to them, she'd have a completely different outlook on the entire thing.

I actually forgot that there was an accident at the end of the show until I read this! Bible (TM Kardashians)! I'm totally not hating Carly's reaction to Jake/Jason. I figured she'd go all howler-monkey and lick him clean from the Liz cooties, but I'm so relieved to be wrong in this instance. It's a nice change of pace. Now, when she finds out Liz knew, it's on, as it should be.

Truer words have never been typed or read! I wish someone had told me that! Actually, Nicole, not even after you give birth, it also occurs during pregnancy for some, who shall remain nameless. At first, I thought Nicole & Rick would end up bonding and fall in love, but I think if she does go through with it, and she does get pregnant with the Raya kid & not Zende's, there will be some complication and this will be the only child she'll ever be able to carry. That'd actually make for a great story, because everyone would be affected, and Papa Avant could strut like a peacock, inappropriate or not. I have to say, I watch two other soaps, & B&B by far keeps their stories under wraps/spoiler-free better than the other two I watch. For example, no one that I read expected Maya to be transgender, but I knew last week that Carly on GH was going to be the first one to have proof that Jake/Jason are the same dude.

On Wednesday night, we were watching the debate and the World Series, so we didn't watch "Nashville" until last night. Unfortunately, yesterday afternoon, I saw on US Weekly's website that "a major character was killed off on last night's Nashville". I went into it knowing that, and thinking that it was Jeff, but I thought there were some anvils that it might be Luke, too. The longer the show went on, though, I knew it was Jeff, because they went out of their way to show that he really did care for Layla, and he got his dream job, plus he saved Juliette with the beatdown. Right at the end, when Colt randomly went out to the roof, I thought they might swerve and make it him, because that really would affect more people (Luke, Maddie, Rayna, Deacon, Daphne, Juliette, etc.) whereas Jeff dying really doesn't have that much punch. I also echo everyone else's statements that HP really should get an Emmy nomination this year. She's knocking this out of the park, which I can't imagine having to deal with while going through PPD. Finally, they had the perfect amount of baby Cadence. I hate when they show too much of a baby, but a cute smile and showing her asleep was the perfect amount.

This might be the strangest post in this whole forum, but I laughed when I saw this and I had to share it with some people who would get it. Hubs & I are 16 weeks pregnant with Baby #2. I get a weekly email telling me current info about the baby, which also compares the baby's size to a fruit or vegetable. This week, Baby #2 is the size of an avocado! I immediately started calling him/her "avocado head", which hubs doesn't understand, because he wasn't Dylan-obsessed as I was, so his experience with our gang is limited to the few minutes he caught of the recent BTS movie, Tori Spelling's trainwreck marriage-in-crisis shows, Luke Perry being Lane Frost and the one time that I forced him to watch the scene when Kelly breaks up with Mark and has the very best breakup line in the history of breakups (paraphrased): "You're so into money, I have a little tip for you. Every time the phone rings, bet someone that it's not me. You'll be right every time." He actually has changed-it-up and used that line in different situations. Anyway, my child is an avocado head and I remember way too much about my teenage shows.

I'm not sure if this is the correct forum for this or not, so apologies if not...is anyone watching the current "Survivor"? There is a returning contestant on there, and he looks like a taller, blonder, younger version of Liam Spencer. The resemblance is uncanny, although, sometimes I see resemblances that other people don't necessarily see. The kicker, the contestant's name is Spencer! Every time they show him, I half-expect to see Hope or Steffy hosting a reward challenge.

Thanks for the congrats, Petunia13 & grisgris! I guess in some ways, I'm fortunate, because unlike Caroline, I can carry a pregnancy longer than 19 hours before my body gives it away! ;-) On topic, my hormones are in overdrive, but I can't imagine Nicole giving up her own flesh & blood child, never having had one of her own, to keep, and being way too young to make a huge, life-changing decision like that. Hopefully Mama Avant can knock some sense into her. On the other hand, we had our own fertility struggles, although, with me not being transgendered, it was always a possibility unlike Maya, but I was actually momentarily happy for her when Nicole agreed to surrogate, which again, hormones. There is nothing in the world like thinking you can't have a child, and then getting exactly what you want (no way is Nicole going to actually get pregnant with, carry and deliver a healthy baby, without some drama, likely involving either Rick falling in love with her, or Maya believing that he is, either way, this baby will either never come to fruition, or if it does, not withouth major drama). Then, I remembered what a horrible person Maya is, and I was back on Team Adopt-If-You-Want-A-Kid. I do, however, fully believe that Caroline will have her healthy baby, probably in a collapsed building or something, because there is way more future drama to be mined from that child & the questionable DNA, which I believe will ultimately turn out to be Ridge's.

This Caroline/Ridge baby announcement has me furious! Ugh, speaking as someone who had our first pregnancy outed by a loose-lipped family member, who blabbed to someone else, who then congratulated us on Facebook, seriously, (although, with #2, we'll be 16 weeks this coming Friday and the only people who know, to the best of our knowledge, are the ones we personally told because we knew they could keep a secret - yay us!), it absolutely infuriates me when someone, even a fictional tv character, outs someone else's pregnancy! Get your own life, Blabbermouth! I know it's a soap, but I wanted to crawl through the screen and throttle both Pam & Liam today. Seriously, Liam? Telling Ridge's daughter immediately after you badgered the information out of the expectant mother, Ridge's wife? Maybe her father might want to tell his daughter himself! Then, idiot Steffi, "some women want to keep it a secret until they're at a safe point." You think, girl who miscarried a few years ago? Most women want to keep it under wraps until they are comfortable sharing it. OK, rant for the day over.

I thought that was funny, too! I think I read that he was Jasmine Guy's real-life boyfriend through much of the series. Didn't he also play a guy that her mother was trying to set her up with the year before he was Julian. I'm thinking his mom played tennis with Marion, or something.

I am fascinated by all of your assessments, even though I disagree with some of them. The writers on this board usually think more about the game than some of the actual participants, in my opinion. I've thought a lot about sexism in the game. I'll be upfront that although I'm a female, I'm far from a feminist, but I really don't see that much sexism in the show this season. If Vanessa had been in the final 2 with Steve, she'd have won hands-down. I did not like her at all...at all...but I agree that she played the best game of the season, and she deserved to win. However, ultimately, Steve lucked-out and won that final HOH & was smart enough to not take the season's best player, because he knew he'd lose to her. I also did not like Liz at all...at all...but I think the difference in her and Steve, to me at least, was that she was in a showmance with the biggest brute in the house, plus her twin was in the house, so she had two built-in strong alliances (I know she & Austin didn't know each other pre-game, but he was a puppy at her feet and she knew that). Steve navigated on his own, and had to trust people that he couldn't be 100% sure of, whereas Liz didn't have that obstacle. I also think Austin was a shield for Liz (& Julia), so she wasn't so much a good player as she was in a good, strong, unpenetratable (I make up words sometimes) alliance. In my opinion, though, if Steve had been in the finals against Shelly, he'd have lost handidly, just like he would've against Vanessa. I don't think the gender of his opponent was the issue, I think it was the way they played the game, in my opinion. Where I do think sexism came into play was with Vanessa's jury vote. I have no doubt that if Vanessa had won & booted Steve, she'd have definitely received his jury vote, whereas Vanessa's girl-power vote for Liz just reeked of sexism and maybe a bit of sour grapes.

I'll reiterate everyone else's thanks to the amazing recappers. You were often-times more entertaining than the actual show. My thoughts on the show tonight are that the one thing I'm looking forward to is Austin seeing Liz sitting in the chairs with Steve/Vanessa, and his eyes turning to dollar-signs, only to have her lose because she hid behind him the entire time he was in the house. That, and seeing his face when he's not even in the top 3 for America's Favorite. My prediction for America's Favorite Player: 3rd, Steve, 2nd, James, Winner, Johnny Mac. Thanks again to all of my fellow posters for a great summer!