The Speculation Conjecture

[Sarah 103]

Here is the place to post everything you hope will happen.

[Sarah 103]

I went back to edit because I now had ideas, but I could not edit the post so I am posting a reply.

Things I Would Like to See:

1. Paige inviting Sheldon and Missy to her birthday party. She is friends with both of them so it would make sense. Sheldon loves the idea of being in a room with his intellectual equals and Missy hates the idea of being in a room of Sheldons. Sheldon irritates everyone and has a miserable time, while Missy gets along with most of them, because they are still kids like her.

2. Mary forcing Sheldon to invite Paige to a dance (church function or one of his school dances). 

3. Sheldon and Georgie teaming up, probably to help Missy deal with a mean girl at school, because I have no idea what else could get the two of them to work together. 

4. Missy with her friends. It might be fun to see how Sheldon reacts when she invites a bunch of her friends to a sleepover (obviously with Mary's approval). 

[Beetlepoet]

I'd like to see more scenes between Mary & George, about their relationship and stuff. It seems a bit cliche but the first plot that comes into my mind is that: George forgets Mary's birthday or wedding anniversary and Mary gets upset. Missy notices that and encourages her dad to make the things up with Mary, giving her own advices. We've seen that George and Missy make a great team together, that'll be fun to watch. 

Also I'd like to see Meemaw's other children and Sheldon's point of view about his uncles. Or more about George's family. 

We heard a lot about Missy's friends "Heather B" and "Heather M" and I think we should see them on season 3. 

I think Georgie would be 16 in the next season, so we can see him getting his driver's license. Georgie sneaking out with his mom's or dad's car would make another plot. 

I love Meemaw & Sturgis, but we've seen a lot about their relationship in the past two seasons, so I still insist that we should see more of Mary & George scenes in the season 3. 

Edit: Also a flashback episode with Pop-Pop would be interesting, as we know that he was an important person for Sheldon and we could see his relationship with Meemaw, Mary and the rest of the Coopers.  

Edited May 31, 2019 by Beetlepoet

[Sarah 103]

On 5/29/2019 at 10:59 AM, Beetlepoet said:

I'd like to see more scenes between Mary & George, about their relationship and stuff. It seems a bit cliche but the first plot that comes into my mind is that: George forgets Mary's birthday or wedding anniversary and Mary gets upset. Missy notices that and encourages her dad to make the things up with Mary, giving her own advices. We've seen that George and Missy make a great team together, that'll be fun to watch. 

I love it. Missy keeps giving him great ideas but he ignores them and keeps trying to make things right on his own, and keeps failing. Finally he listens to Missy and Mary forgives him. 

On 5/29/2019 at 10:59 AM, Beetlepoet said:

We heard a lot about Missy's friends "Heather B" and "Heather M" and I think we should see them on season 3. 

Agreed. That's pretty much where my sleepover idea came from. I want to see what Missy is like around her friends. What kind of person is she when she is around other people her age? 

On 5/29/2019 at 10:59 AM, Beetlepoet said:

I think Georgie would be 16 in the next season, so we can see him getting his driver's license. Georgie sneaking out with his mom's or dad's car would make another plot.   

Brilliant. Missy catches him but agrees not to tell thier parents and spends the rest of the episode blackmailing him. Also, when she asks him to drive her to the Hello Kitty Store, she asks if Sheldon wants to go the comic book store (or another store close by that he'd want to go to). Sheldon asks why Georgie is driving them and Missy's response is "Who cares, do you want to go or not," and Sheldon gets in the car. We've seen Missy be nice and offer to help Sheldon when she doesn't have to, so it's possible. 

[John Potts]

Riffing off @Beetlepoet's idea above: George (Sr) is spending more time with Missy, but won't say what they're doing. Mary is increasingly frustrated at the secrecy and elicits Sheldon and George to find out what they're up to. They fail (Sheldon is especially hopeless as a spy, in spite of being convinced he's a genius at subterfuge - Georgie mainly just isn't interested), making Mary increasingly frustrated. Ultimately, she reveals that their anniversary is coming up and while she can't complain about George spending time with his daughter, he wishes he's remember her needs occasionally. But the reveal is that he did remember and that Missy had helped George plan the perfect anniversary evening for them.

[I realise that this would make an episode of Young Sheldon that doesn't have a lot of Sheldon!]

[Sarah 103]

On 6/7/2019 at 9:33 PM, John Potts said:

Riffing off @Beetlepoet's idea above: George (Sr) is spending more time with Missy, but won't say what they're doing. Mary is increasingly frustrated at the secrecy and elicits Sheldon and George to find out what they're up to. They fail (Sheldon is especially hopeless as a spy, in spite of being convinced he's a genius at subterfuge - Georgie mainly just isn't interested), making Mary increasingly frustrated. Ultimately, she reveals that their anniversary is coming up and while she can't complain about George spending time with his daughter, he wishes he's remember her needs occasionally. But the reveal is that he did remember and that Missy had helped George plan the perfect anniversary evening for them.

[I realise that this would make an episode of Young Sheldon that doesn't have a lot of Sheldon!]

This is great. You gave Sheldon something to do in the episode, so it works for me. Seeing Sheldon trying to spy and failing would be fantastic to watch. 

[SmithW6079]

On 6/7/2019 at 9:33 PM, John Potts said:

[I realise that this would make an episode of Young Sheldon that doesn't have a lot of Sheldon!]

Ain't nothing wrong with that. 😁 I prefer the other family members to Sheldon (with the exception of Meemaw) any time.

[Beetlepoet]

18 hours ago, SmithW6079 said:

Ain't nothing wrong with that. 😁 I prefer the other family members to Sheldon (with the exception of Meemaw) any time.

I’m craving badly for a Mary & George episode 🙂

On 5/31/2019 at 10:43 PM, Sarah 103 said:

 

I think Georgie would be 16 in the next season, so we can see him getting his driver's license. Georgie sneaking out with his mom's or dad's car would make another plot.   

This can be partly true, as I saw Montana riding a car on YS’s set on Instagram. We are going to see him drive a car, I think. 

[Driad]

It would not be surprising if Missy gets a growth spurt in the next year or two, and is taller than Sheldon for a while. They might get some plot mileage out of that. [Raegan Revord (Missy) was born January 3, 2008, and Iain Armitage (Sheldon) July 15, 2008.]

[catlover79]

I know that S5 hasn't debuted yet, but I wonder if they will address the twins' sleeping arrangements. The kids are now teenagers (both Iain and Raegan turned 13 earlier this year), and it will get uncomfortable to watch if Sheldon and Missy are still sharing a room at this point.

My prediction? Georgie converts the garage into his own living quarters, which frees up his old bedroom. Since Sheldon dislikes change, I see Missy claiming it.

Edited September 4, 2021 by catlover79

[anna0852]

2 hours ago, catlover79 said:

I know that S5 hasn't debuted yet, but I wonder if they will address the twins' sleeping arrangements. The kids are now teenagers (both Iain and Raegan turned 13 earlier this year), and it will get uncomfortable to watch if Sheldon and Missy are still sharing a room at this point.

My prediction? Georgie converts the garage into his own living quarters, which frees up his old bedroom. Since Sheldon dislikes change, I see Missy claiming it.

I think it makes sense for Georgie to convert the garage. Sheldon will pitch a fit since that's where his trains are kept.

 

[Driad]

On 9/3/2021 at 11:54 PM, anna0852 said:

I think it makes sense for Georgie to convert the garage. Sheldon will pitch a fit since that's where his trains are kept.

Sheldon will pitch a fit if any change is made, small or large.  By now his family (except maybe Mary) probably figure they may as well endure the fit and make the changes they want.  If Missy gets Georgie's room, Sheldon will have space for his trains in the formerly shared room.

[SusanM]

I have been seeing the commercials for the upcoming season premiere and it certainly looks like George and the neighbour consider an affair but don't act on it because of George's health (possibly a heart attack).  I guess this does mean they are moving forward with the idea that the marriage breaks down and George starts being unfaithful at some point.  I wish they wouldn't. 

Edited October 1, 2021 by kariyaki
Removed spoiler tags - not necessary for speculation

[theredhead77]

On 10/1/2021 at 9:50 AM, SusannahM said:

I have been seeing the commercials for the upcoming season premiere and it certainly looks like George and the neighbour consider an affair but don't act on it because of George's health (possibly a heart attack).  I guess this does mean they are moving forward with the idea that the marriage breaks down and George starts being unfaithful at some point.  I wish they wouldn't. 

It's possible that this "close call" was a wake-up call for George and he doesn't become unfaithful. I don't mind if George and Mary split up and I wouldn't mind if, after that, George begins dating someone else (not Brenda) but I don't want to see George be unfaithful. Sheldon may have an eidetic memory but he has been shown to be an unreliable narrator on more than one occasion. 

[SusanM]

I just read the description for this week's new episode and I am noticing a trend that I am not happy with - is it just me or does it seem like everytime lately that Missy gets a storyline it involves her love life?  She's 12 for godssake surely they could come up with other things for her character to be dealing with other than boys, boys, boys.

[Tom Holmberg]

On 11/3/2021 at 1:55 PM, SusannahM said:

I just read the description for this week's new episode and I am noticing a trend that I am not happy with - is it just me or does it seem like everytime lately that Missy gets a storyline it involves her love life?  She's 12 for godssake surely they could come up with other things for her character to be dealing with other than boys, boys, boys.

I'm just happy they have time to give Missy a line or two.  But the explanation can be given in two words: Chuck Lorre.

[SusanM]

On 11/10/2021 at 2:54 PM, Tom Holmberg said:

  But the explanation can be given in two words: Chuck Lorre.

I'd noticed what I think of as the "Chuck Lorre effect" in earlier seasons but this year it's gotten to the point where I'm just not in to this show anymore.  We all knew that if they stuck to the BBT canon things were going to take a dark turn for the Coopers but I, for one, wasn't expecting things to happen they way they have so far this season.  If things continue on the path they're going George's potential issues are only one of the things that I am having problems with.  I don't know about anyone else but I'm not sure I will be watching much longer.

[Yeah No]

On 11/3/2021 at 2:55 PM, SusannahM said:

I just read the description for this week's new episode and I am noticing a trend that I am not happy with - is it just me or does it seem like everytime lately that Missy gets a storyline it involves her love life?  She's 12 for godssake surely they could come up with other things for her character to be dealing with other than boys, boys, boys.

And yet I loved the storyline with her playing softball.  It kind of countered the typical Chuck Lorre stuff.  At least they did that.

Not to defend Chuck, but all I thought about at that age was boys, boys, boys, so there is that....

[SusanM]

On 11/16/2021 at 11:19 AM, SusannahM said:

I don't know about anyone else but I'm not sure I will be watching much longer.

Quoting myself to say that I don't even remember to PVR this show anymore.  I missed last night's and probably won't bother trying to watch it.   So my speculation here is that the show has finally reached the point for me where I just don't want to see what happens next for the Cooper family.  There may be a few funny scenes along the way but mostly it just seems to be getting darker and unhappier with each new episode.

Edited March 4, 2022 by SusannahM

[shapeshifter]

Also posted without spoiler tags on the TBBT vs Young Sheldon: Nitpicks, Anomalies, and Historical Facts In An Evolving Universe, presented by Sheldon L. Cooper page:

Since almost none of the memories of adult Sheldon about George listed here seem to be coming true on Young Sheldon:
https://bigbangtheory.fandom.com/wiki/George_Cooper_Sr.

--I am hoping on YS

Spoiler

that it will turn out George left town but did not actually die.
If Sheldon was studying abroad when he got news that his father had "died," that doesn't seem entirely impossible.
Or maybe George staged his death so Mary could collect Social Security checks for him. 

[Guest]

I don't know how reliable a place like Screen Rant is but they are talking about an upcoming episode of YS where George secretly has a vasectomy because Mary wants another baby and speculating that this procedure is what leads to George's death. They do make a good point that while we have always known George's fate we've never explicitly been told how he died. 

I assumed heart issues (which seemed borne out by an episode from the first season) but it wouldn't be a total surprise if they keep the retcon going where they've made George a better person by throwing Mary under the bus.  But would they have his death be the result of him doing something drastic because he felt pressured by Mary?  Nothing like adding a layer of guilt onto Mary when George dies.

[Tom Holmberg]

4 minutes ago, Mona Lisa said:

I don't know how reliable a place like Screen Rant is but they are talking about an upcoming episode of YS where George secretly has a vasectomy because Mary wants another baby and speculating that this procedure is what leads to George's death. They do make a good point that while we have always known George's fate we've never explicitly been told how he died. 

I assumed heart issues (which seemed borne out by an episode from the first season) but it wouldn't be a total surprise if they keep the retcon going where they've made George a better person by throwing Mary under the bus.  But would they have his death be the result of him doing something drastic because he felt pressured by Mary?  Nothing like adding a layer of guilt onto Mary when George dies.

Lorre seems to have a thing about vasectomies, they come up in all his shows.

[TheLastKidPicked]

3 hours ago, Mona Lisa said:

But would they have his death be the result of him doing something drastic because he felt pressured by Mary?  Nothing like adding a layer of guilt onto Mary when George dies.

I see where you are going and they might take it a step farther.

Meemaw has often been harsh towards George.  Imagine she insists on George helping her do something such as push her car home when she runs out of gas.  This physical labor causes George's heart attack.

 

 

[Dimity]

I am wondering if the finale, or the episodes leading to the finale will mention Paige.  I really really really (yes really) hope that the powers that be give us a happy ever after voice over, at the very least, for her!

[StaceyNotStacie]

8 hours ago, Dimity said:

I am wondering if the finale, or the episodes leading to the finale will mention Paige.  I really really really (yes really) hope that the powers that be give us a happy ever after voice over, at the very least, for her!

I agree. Even if she doesn’t become as successful as Sheldon, I hope that she keeps in touch with Missy as the two girls got older. 

[Dimity]

Further ponderings on the finale - I read somewhere that Sheldon and Amy will be in it and it would be interesting if instead of a voiceover they had the present day Coopers gather for some reason or another - perhaps a memorial for George? - and show that they have come full circle and mended the fences that seemed to be broken through most of the run of BBT,

[HyeChaps]

Hoping to hear Mary sing Soft Kitty. 

[anna0852]

I just said this on a different thread, but I think it also belongs here. Up until they announced the spin off, my theory was always that it would turn out that Cece was not Georgie‘s child. Simply to explain the complete lack of any mention of her on Big Bang theory, particularly once Young Sheldon got started. Not even a throwaway line about why Sheldon‘s niece is missing his wedding? Or when Georgie is ranting about having to support the family, he didn’t include any mention that he was also raising a daughter at the same time? Or of all the ways Sheldon has disparaged his family, he never brought up his teenage parenthood? That doesn’t seem like something Sheldon would fail to mention when he’s trying to emphasize that he’s the family success. 

[Dimity]

8 minutes ago, anna0852 said:

Or when Georgie is ranting about having to support the family, he didn’t include any mention that he was also raising a daughter at the same time?

Or in an earlier episode when Sheldon says that his mother has always wanted a grandchild?  I know they are handwaving a lot of what Sheldon said on BBT as Sheldon being an unreliable narrator but even later when Missy is having her first child it is made clear that this is the first baby in the family. 

I totally understood how they softened George's character for Young Sheldon but I will never understand why they had to throw in a teen pregnancy storyline (Georgie being the teen of course) and now so they can have a spin off they are backtracking on what Georgie himself claimed on BBT  - that he was the one who propped up Mary and Missy after George died. 

[BitterApple]

Looking at the synopsis for ep. 11, do you guys think the secret vasectomy will play a role in George's death? I know it's a low risk procedure, but maybe he gets a blood clot or something that causes his heart attack? It's kind of an odd plot point at this stage of the game, especially where Mary and George have been getting along so well. 

[karenc3]

Throughout the show, especially with older Sheldon narrating, I knew that Young Sheldon was either older Sheldon telling someone his story, or writing about himself.   I'm beginning to wonder, though,  if older Sheldon is leaving out some of the negative things like how BBT Sheldon described George.  Maybe what older Sheldon chose to focus on was the more positive aspects of George.    Or older Sheldon is writing a story based on his life but not exactly.  That would explain some of the discrepancies.  This would mean that the "real" version of Sheldon was BBT Sheldon and older Sheldon, and Young Sheldon was a fictionalized version that older Sheldon wrote.  This might be an interesting twist.

[anna0852]

This sneak peek actually indicates there might be a reason that the childhood bedroom we see for Sheldon on Big Bang doesn’t match what we see on this show. Remember that episode where Sheldon and Howard stopped by to surprise Mary after Howard gave a talk at NASA? Well, if George takes this job that explains why the bedrooms don’t match and how Mary is now driving distance from NASA.
 

 

[curbcrusher]

On 5/7/2024 at 11:35 PM, karenc3 said:

Throughout the show, especially with older Sheldon narrating, I knew that Young Sheldon was either older Sheldon telling someone his story, or writing about himself.   I'm beginning to wonder, though,  if older Sheldon is leaving out some of the negative things like how BBT Sheldon described George.  Maybe what older Sheldon chose to focus on was the more positive aspects of George.    Or older Sheldon is writing a story based on his life but not exactly.  That would explain some of the discrepancies.  This would mean that the "real" version of Sheldon was BBT Sheldon and older Sheldon, and Young Sheldon was a fictionalized version that older Sheldon wrote.  This might be an interesting twist.

I tend to disagree, we are not seeing Older Sheldon tell the story of Young Sheldon. I think they started off the show that way, but it deviated fairly quickly in the first season. There are too many scenes that occur that are not from Sheldon's point of view, and that he would not have been aware of.  I would also say that as a viewer I think there have been many episodes that don't even include a narration, of if they have narration it's been so inconsequential to my viewing of the story that I don't remember it.

I think we are seeing the Young Sheldon story as an observer, with occasional narration by Older Sheldon when he is either involved, or has some opinion about what happened. I think this is what explains the discrepancies.

[chitowngirl]

I’d like to see the 3 adult children with Mary and Meemaw in the finale, maybe visiting George’s grave.

[mammaM]

2 hours ago, chitowngirl said:

I’d like to see the 3 adult children with Mary and Meemaw in the finale, maybe visiting George’s grave.

Sheldon can show George his Nobel😎

[Driad]

Has anyone imagined a crossover of "Young Sheldon" and "King of the Hill"?

[Dimity]

On 5/8/2024 at 10:56 AM, anna0852 said:

This sneak peek actually indicates there might be a reason that the childhood bedroom we see for Sheldon on Big Bang doesn’t match what we see on this show.

Your speculation was both right and wrong!  The finale does acknowledge that the house we later see Sheldon visiting is not the house he grew up in but it's because Mary eventually sold the house.  I admit my own speculation was that Meemaw would move in with Mary but if that happens we're not shown that in the last episode.  I do think that this is still a possibility.

[anna0852]

3 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Your speculation was both right and wrong!  The finale does acknowledge that the house we later see Sheldon visiting is not the house he grew up in but it's because Mary eventually sold the house.  I admit my own speculation was that Meemaw would move in with Mary but if that happens we're not shown that in the last episode.  I do think that this is still a possibility.

With Georgie moved out and Sheldon in California, I think Missy would be significantly happier having Meemaw in the house rather than just her and Mary on their own.

[kwnyc]

It did hit me that Sheldon is legally too young to live on his own, unless I handwave that Caltech has a house or dorm for underage students.

[Dimity]

On 5/17/2024 at 7:24 PM, kwnyc said:

It did hit me that Sheldon is legally too young to live on his own, unless I handwave that Caltech has a house or dorm for underage students.

I felt like this whole season they completely ignored the reality that Sheldon was only 14. Once he and Mary came back from Germany, where she did seem to still see him as too young to be travelling about on his own, that seemed to end. He was getting to and from university on his own, Mary and George seemed fine with him staying overnight in the dorm and I don't recall any conversation on what his living arrangements would be whether at MIT, Caltech or any of the other universities that were vying for him.  It seemed odd to me that they would mention transportation to and from campus but not mention where he'd be transporting from!  

[SoMuchTV]

I was kind of wondering why young Leonard didn’t have a nickname to avoid confusion and distinguish him from “uncle” Leonard, but now the internet is speculating that original Leonard is no longer with us. Thoughts?

[Dimity]

2 hours ago, SoMuchTV said:

I was kind of wondering why young Leonard didn’t have a nickname to avoid confusion and distinguish him from “uncle” Leonard, but now the internet is speculating that original Leonard is no longer with us. Thoughts?

Wow.   People are speculating that older Leonard is dead????Just because little Leonard was  called Leonard by his parents?  

Edited May 21 by Dimity

[gentlespirit512]

I thought some of us had too much time on our hands. I haven’t seen any of that, and I’ve been reading as much as I could find. Clearly I need to widen my horizons. Wow.

[emma675]

4 hours ago, SoMuchTV said:

I was kind of wondering why young Leonard didn’t have a nickname to avoid confusion and distinguish him from “uncle” Leonard, but now the internet is speculating that original Leonard is no longer with us. Thoughts?

I saw an article online that speculated Leonard was dead because he wasn't mentioned as being in Sheldon's kids' lives specifically like Penny was, he had a myriad of "health problems" (the article's wording), and the actor wasn't a guest star. I thought it was a ridiculous argument (especially since none of the other TBBT actors guest starred), but I kind of do hope the producers clear the air on it at some point.