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1 minute ago, tessaray said:

One inconsistency was Martin saying he never had a brother in an early season episode (he spins a sob story about his partner instead) and then an unseen brother pops up in the episode where Frasier's cousin is getting married.  But overall it's better than most sitcoms. 

I hated that episode. It was so OOC for the series. Cheap laughs were never their style.

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24 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

I hated that episode. It was so OOC for the series. Cheap laughs were never their style.

Is this the episode with the Greek wedding?  I wondered if it was a backdoor pilot (I think that's what they're called) that never went anywhere.

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4 minutes ago, SusannahM said:

Is this the episode with the Greek wedding?  I wondered if it was a backdoor pilot (I think that's what they're called) that never went anywhere.

It looked that way. I was just so odd.

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Those kind of stories make me so mad, hearing about siblings that won't talk for decades because of some stupid reason.  Obviously the show did it all for plot contrivance, and didn't care that Martin had a brother, but if Martin had a brother, he should have been in his life.  That's so dumb.

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2 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Those kind of stories make me so mad, hearing about siblings that won't talk for decades because of some stupid reason.  Obviously the show did it all for plot contrivance, and didn't care that Martin had a brother, but if Martin had a brother, he should have been in his life.  That's so dumb.

Yeah, that's not like Martin at all. I know he had his old partner that he had a fight with and didn't talk to for a long time, but I just can't see him ignoring his brother forever, especially once Frasier and Niles got so close.

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For about a full week in December I had O Holy Night stuck in my head, and it would inevitably turn into Martin practicing to hit the high note. 

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Just now, jird said:

For about a full week in December I had O Holy Night stuck in my head, and it would inevitably turn into Martin practicing to hit the high note. 

I forgot how good "Perspectives on Christmas" was until I rewatched it this year.  

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17 minutes ago, jird said:

For about a full week in December I had O Holy Night stuck in my head, and it would inevitably turn into Martin practicing to hit the high note. 

I kept thinking about that when I'd hear that song, too :D. I love the scene with Frasier and Niles doing that whole "bending down/standing on tiptoes" thing to try and hit certain notes better, and Martin's just making a face at how goofy they look.

17 minutes ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

I forgot how good "Perspectives on Christmas" was until I rewatched it this year.  

I love that episode, too. I will forever love Martin's rant about Eddie taking the baby Jesus doll and running off stage with it. The way he describes how "half the population of Bethlehem" goes chasing after Eddie to get the doll back just cracks me up :D. 

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I rewatched most of the Christmas episodes last week to try and get in the Christmas season. Except for the first one. Freddy is so cute in Frasier Grinch, I love that Martin was right and got "Frasier" the toy and the batteries for it. 

I always love episodes where people give their own version of things that happened. Poor Roz's mother finding out the hard way about Roz's pregnancy although I'm surprised Roz never mentioned to Frasier she never told her mother about it. I do love Frasier answering the cellphone and telling Mrs. Doyle he thought she might call back. Poor Niles climbing into the elevator shaft which ended up being for no reason. I'm impressed he was able to climb the tree. The whole of Daphne thinking Martin was dying. I liked that from her verison what Martin and Frasier said made her think that but when we see the same scenes from Martin and Frasier's point of view even its really not. And of course the whole of Martin describing what happened with Eddie and Baby Jesus. 

Of course entirety of Merry Christmas, Mrs. Moskowitz. How they came up with that I don't know but I'm so glad they did. Finding a Christmas tree and Jesus in the bathroom? Gold.

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7 minutes ago, andromeda331 said:

The whole of Daphne thinking Martin was dying. I liked that from her verison what Martin and Frasier said made her think that but when we see the same scenes from Martin and Frasier's point of view even its really not.

That was so smart the way they did that.  All the different acting in each scenario was so good.

It reminds me of how Martin and Frasier trick Niles into thinking that Daphne's mother is dying when she's actually engaged to Donny, but that one isn't as fun!

There's another one too, when Roz is pregnant but somehow Niles believes that Frasier knocked up Daphne and is not going to help take care of the baby 😄

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6 minutes ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

That was so smart the way they did that.  All the different acting in each scenario was so good.

It reminds me of how Martin and Frasier trick Niles into thinking that Daphne's mother is dying when she's actually engaged to Donny, but that one isn't as fun!

There's another one too, when Roz is pregnant but somehow Niles believes that Frasier knocked up Daphne and is not going to help take care of the baby 😄

They were very good at doing that.

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I rewatched most of the Christmas episodes last week to try and get in the Christmas season. Except for the first one. Freddy is so cute in Frasier Grinch, I love that Martin was right and got "Frasier" the toy and the batteries for it. 

I thought that little kid did a great job considering he had a tone of lines. I wonder why they replaced him in later episodes?

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Of course entirety of Merry Christmas, Mrs. Moskowitz. How they came up with that I don't know but I'm so glad they did. Finding a Christmas tree and Jesus in the bathroom? Gold.

DHP or Eric Stoltz? You decide.

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Frasier is so annoying in "Room Full of Heroes".  The episode where he tells everyone to dress in costume as their hero.

He craps on everyone's costume choices (except Martin's):  First Daphne (Elton John), then Roz (Wonder Woman), then Niles (Martin Crane).  THEY FOLLOWED YOUR STUPID PARTY DIRECTIONS.  He's not happy with ANY of their choices.  God, what a party pooper!  About his own party!  And then he has the nerve to be surprised that people cancelled on him (Kenny, Gil).  As if he would be happy with whoever they chose for their costumes!  Doubtful!

Also, I put on some random Season 9 episode that I never watch - 923 - The Guilt Trippers, and I couldn't believe it -- Roz and Frasier slept together.  WHaaaaaaaaaaaaat?  I totally forgot that that happened.  Ick!  And then he goes to visit Roz's family and it's so bizarre.  He meets Roz's sister, who he's definitely met before, and he pretends to be Roger the whole time.  The continuity is so bad.   There was an early episode where Frasier's date cancelled and Roz's sister pretended to be his date for him!  And she was even played by the exact same actor.  Obviously, she would remember who Frasier is from that date.

Obviously Roz's family, especially her mother, would know who Frasier is and what he looks like.  How would they not know, because his face is all over the ads and that's Roz's boss!!  But I don't think her mother even appeared in this episode, which also makes no sense (I don't know, I was half asleep).  All in all, just sooooooooooo bizarre.

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12 minutes ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Roz and Frasier slept together.  WHaaaaaaaaaaaaat?  I totally forgot that that happened.  Ick! 

Of all the things later season Frasier did that I dislike this tops the list.  In my world This Never Happened.

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22 minutes ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

He meets Roz's sister, who he's definitely met before, and he pretends to be Roger the whole time.  The continuity is so bad.   There was an early episode where Frasier's date cancelled and Roz's sister pretended to be his date for him!

No, that happened later. In the last season at the SeaBee Awards.

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Yep - season 11 is a return to form. They brought back Christopher Lloyd and Joe Keenan, who were the showrunners for the best seasons and had left after season 7.

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Seasons 8-10:

There are so many obstacles to Daphne and Niles simply having a happy marriage together.  When they finally get over the Mel and Donny bumps, the writers enter Gertrude Moon into the picture over and over again.  The Moon family just keeps visiting and being terrible to everyone.  It's awful.

I don't understand the insistence on focusing on some of these outside characters.  Kenny?  Kirby?  John Hannah? I have to admit I laughed at a couple of Kirby jokes lol.  But Kenny's life is soooooooo not interesting.

Okay I just saw Fraternal Schwinns - that was a good episode.

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I hated Daphne's family. Kenny was boring but I liked Kirby's episodes. The Teen Scene episode is classic. And John Hannah is always welcome on my screen. 

Long-lived shows always have a challenge keeping things fresh. Frasier had its share of hits and misses.

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20 minutes ago, shlbycindyk said:

I wasn't a big fan of the Kirby episodes but the Teen Scene episode is one of my favorites.  

That redeemed Kirby a thousand times over in my eyes.

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Kenny on the Couch:

The show always pushes forward that Frasier and Niles (and Martin) care so much about their ethics.

But Frasier takes Kenny - HIS BOSS - on as a psychiatric patient.  He treats him twice a week, and doesn't even charge him.  Isn't this just a bad conflict of interest?  Isn't it bad for being a psychiatrist, and isn't it just bad to have your own boss as a patient?  This could have gone wrong in so many ways!

Also, I totally forgot Alan Cumming was on the show.  I'm a big fan of his.  It's cute to hear him doing an American accent.

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Wow, speaking of Kenny, the actor who played him just unexpectedly popped up in the new show "American Auto", episode 3.

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So, I have been thinking of the quote, "You said you couldn't handle it, and by God, you were right," but I cannot remember where it's from. Is it a Frasier episode? I feel like it is, but I can't place it.

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33 minutes ago, jird said:

So, I have been thinking of the quote, "You said you couldn't handle it, and by God, you were right," but I cannot remember where it's from. Is it a Frasier episode? I feel like it is, but I can't place it.

I googled it, it’s from the episode ‘Adventures in Paradise, Part 2’

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Madeline: You know what might be better? If I tell you how I've got it worked out. The minute you saw Lilith, you wanted to leave, but I wouldn't let you. You said you couldn't handle it, and by God, you were right. You panicked, and your panic took a bad turn. A spectacularly bad turn. Anyway, that's how I've got it worked out in my head, and it's fragile, so let's not mess with it. So, why don't you mix up a pitcher of Mai-Tai's and give me a kiss? I'll let you guess which I want first.

 

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23 minutes ago, kariyaki said:

I googled it, it’s from the episode ‘Adventures in Paradise, Part 2’

 

Thank you! I Googled it and came up with nothing, so I appreciate your help!

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58 minutes ago, jird said:

Thank you! I Googled it and came up with nothing, so I appreciate your help!

If you put quotation marks around it, it comes up.

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2 hours ago, kariyaki said:

I googled it, it’s from the episode ‘Adventures in Paradise, Part 2’

 

The writing for this show was beyond anything any other show was doing or probably ever will do.

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One of my favorite episodes is airing on Cozi Wednesday, 2/2 - Murder Most Maris with Niles losing it at Nervosa.

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I was watching some British show on BritBox the other night and one of the actors was Derek Jacobi.  He played Jackson Hedley on the episode "The Show Must Go On" which is one of my favorites.  He, of course was excellent in the British show but all I could think about was how he'd take those long, noisy, gasping breaths before saying his lines as Jackson Hedley.  He really was a wonderful actor to be able to play that part so well on Frasier. 

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Edward Gibbert (Gil) has a pretty big role in "The Paper" , a 1994 movie I really like.

I don't remember how big his role is in "The Prestige" but I love that movie too.

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36 minutes ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Edward Gibbert (Gil) has a pretty big role in "The Paper" , a 1994 movie I really like.

That is one of my favorite movies.  Ron Howard directed it.  Everyone in that cast was perfect in their roles.

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I was watching Jeopardy and they mentioned the sculptor Balzac and that got me thinking about Niles line about Maris(or was it a friend of hers?) that developed a facial tic whenever she had to say the name Balzac....

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Speaking of shows and things connected to "Frasier", the most recent episode of the U.S. version of "Ghosts" gave that show a shoutout - the owners of the house were trying to help a couple of the ghosts get some therapy (long story), and one of the ghosts, Thor, said he learned a lot about therapy by watching "Frasier" :D. He also talked about how funny Niles was, being so fussy with his coffee and everything. 

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The show "Single Parents" was a cute sitcom that only lasted 2 seasons I think, but the Millennial characters talked about how they relaxed or fell asleep to watching "Frasier".  That was one of the most validating things I have ever seen on a show.

 

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There apparently is a community out there - I want to say it's a subreddit on the Reddit forums, too, but I'm not sure - of people who talk about falling asleep to "Frasier" :D. I totally get where it'd be easy to do that. "Frasier" is a very relaxing, soothing show. 

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1 minute ago, Annber03 said:

There apparently is a community out there - I want to say it's a subreddit on the Reddit forums, too, but I'm not sure - of people who talk about falling asleep to "Frasier" :D. I totally get where it'd be easy to do that. "Frasier" is a very relaxing, soothing show. 

I always say this.  I always make the same joke, that those taupe/brown/beige/khaki tones immediately send me to sleep.  😄😄. It's a show about a man and his brother just constantly going for coffee and discussing their day.  It's sooooo relaxing. 

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Exactly. There's not really much in the way of high stakes drama, Frasier's voice when talking to his callers is (generally) very soothing, it's full of light, breezy humor. Even the opening theme with the animated images is light and simple. And depending on how often you've seen the episodes, you pretty much know how they'll play out and what happens next, so you don't have to worry about paying close attention in case you miss something in the storylines or whatever. It's just a good, comforting background thing to have on :). 

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I fell asleep to the Two Mrs. Cranes earlier this week.  I was so disappointed in myself.  I hate falling asleep to some of the best episodes.

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28 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

Exactly. There's not really much in the way of high stakes drama, Frasier's voice when talking to his callers is (generally) very soothing, it's full of light, breezy humor. Even the opening theme with the animated images is light and simple. And depending on how often you've seen the episodes, you pretty much know how they'll play out and what happens next, so you don't have to worry about paying close attention in case you miss something in the storylines or whatever. It's just a good, comforting background thing to have on :). 

That's so true.  Everyone's voice on the show is very soothing - except for Daphne's. 😄 And the jazzy tone that opens the show is going to immediately give us a relaxing response.  

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14 hours ago, Annber03 said:

Speaking of shows and things connected to "Frasier", the most recent episode of the U.S. version of "Ghosts" gave that show a shoutout - the owners of the house were trying to help a couple of the ghosts get some therapy (long story), and one of the ghosts, Thor, said he learned a lot about therapy by watching "Frasier" :D. He also talked about how funny Niles was, being so fussy with his coffee and everything. 

I was already completely in love with Thor and this episode really cinched it. 

I highly recommend Ghosts if you're not already watching it.

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We probably talked about this already but do they show Frasier on HBO Max?  They have all the episodes on Canada's equivalent, "Crave", which makes things incredibly convenient.

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8 minutes ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

We probably talked about this already but do they show Frasier on HBO Max?  They have all the episodes on Canada's equivalent, "Crave", which makes things incredibly convenient.

It's not on HBO Max, but it is on Hulu, Peacock, and Paramount+.

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It's on Amazon Prime in the US.

Looks like I'll be signing up for HBO Max because I want to see the Julia Child bio. David Hyde Pierce is playing Julia's husband Paul.

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