S02.E04: Washing Off Prison

[CoachWristletJen]

On 12/29/2018 at 10:01 PM, annewithaneee said:

Ding ding ding. It's why you really shouldn't mess around with at-home bleaching -- getting it fixed is time-consuming and incredibly expensive vs. just getting it done correctly at the salon in the first place. I really don't think the salon was randomly ripping them off, I think she was getting several services and it was going to take a lot to fix that tragic accidental ombre.

Personally, since I normally like darkening my color and my hair holds onto it well, I just do henna at home, mix together a dark auburn. With long, super thick hair, I always need double the amount of dye and it just gets to be too expensive. Probably haven't gotten to three or four bills, but I've been pretty close. 

I learned about in home bleaching the hard way when I was very young!  Judging by the severity of that two-tone hair, a lot of correction was probably necessary. And, those were no cheap dyes that they used, either. Probably really expensive stuff with silks in it and what have you, which was gentle on those ends of hers which look fried. No doubt she couldn't find proper conditioner for bleached hair in lockup. She probably needed $350 worth of work. They had a real hair emergency on their hands! 

Since I have kids, I'm pretty cautious about how much I spend. There's always the obligatory brow wax. And, I love a pedicure, but if I knew it was already going to be anything close to $200, that's NOT the day to sign on for a mani/pedi and a host of other services.  And, of course you've got to tip well. If I spend $140, I'm going to tip $40 if she's spent two hours with me.

Too bad they couldn't bleach her teeth.

[CoachWristletJen]

On 12/29/2018 at 3:11 PM, Scorpiosunshine said:

Marcelino is the kind of guy who initially makes an impression as a chill dude, but...

If one pays close attention, his "buttons"  bulge against the need for control and his barely-contained rage. 

 

He seems to be the kind of guy who would cut your throat when you break up with him. 

I could see in Brittany eyes that she most likely sees his true colors, but she had no resources to escape him during that dinner.

I truly hope she gets away ASAP. Alarm bells are blaring and screaming-- I truly feel she could be in real danger. 

Brittany is absolutely seeing his true colors. My guess is she's got a wicked sense of street smarts from her time behind bars, and if we could get inside her head, it would be like Arnold in the Terminator with those green computer scans of a person honing in right on his pea sized heart and a huge flashing red warning light. She understands exactly what she's dealing with, and even though she's lonely and she appreciates his kindnesses, she knows he's like a volcano that's going to blow.

I just hope that she can wise up and at least placate him until she finds a way out... I think I threw up a little in my mouth when I said that. But seriously, she needs a safe survival plan/exit strategy.

She might even need to go to a women's shelter, depending on how this turns out.

If you've ever been around a smart person who has spent significant time in prison, they'll tell you stuff about yourself you'd swear that was kept hidden. It's like they cultivate a whole different type of survival/hunting skills so she's probably reading Marcelino like a book... or rather, a primer.

Never underestimate street smarts. Seriously.

[JenE4]

Did the producers bring Clint to the “Rodeo Drive” of wherever they are with $300 underwear and $400 hair salon trips? Poor idiot doesn’t know any better. I loved when told the price of the underwear he says something like “It will last forever” as if the higher the price, the more mileage you’ll get out of it. These are investment panties that we can bequeath to our children. And the sales lady was all, “Yes, the memories will last forever,” knowing one wash too many and the elastic will snap and the lace will rip. Hey, Clint, likewise on that hair coloring—6 weeks tops and you’ll be back again. Get her a $9 box of L’Oréal and be done with it. They sell it at Walgreens an aisle over from the pomegranate body wash and gel deodorant. I don’t think that was spanx sticking out the bottom of her sausage casing dress but rather a leg band holding her mic pack. I mean, if it were Spanx, it wasn’t doing its job very well.

Good for Brittany for getting up from that dinner and walking away from that soon-to-be-seen-on-Discovery-ID creeper Marcelo. I just worry that the poor girl is trapped there with no place to go but back to his room with him. Maybe she can call up one of those other dudes she was corresponding with and then throw those quarters at Marcelo while escaping. Stranger danger! Stranger danger!

What’s the name of the redhead with Matt? I don’t quite think it’s Claire, but I’m going with that for now... Dear lord, as if the forest sex wasn’t bad enough, when “Claire” said Matt filled up her stomach with babies, I gagged a little bit then laughed so hard. Rewound to hear her say “filled myyyYy  stomach with baaaAAAaaabies” one more time, and nearly fell off my couch laughing.

This show knows what it’s doing giving us only 2 minutes of Megan-Michael-Sarah at the end of every episode because this ultimate cliffhanger keeps me hanging on. Sarah has the Queen t-shirt but Megan is his Queen?!?! Ooooooh! Juicy!

[CoachWristletJen]

13 minutes ago, JenE4 said:

Did the producers bring Clint to the “Rodeo Drive” of wherever they are with $300 underwear and $400 hair salon trips? Poor idiot doesn’t know any better. I loved when told the price of the underwear he says something like “It will last forever” as if the higher the price, the more mileage you’ll get out of it. These are investment panties that we can bequeath to our children. And the sales lady was all, “Yes, the memories will last forever,” knowing one wash too many and the elastic will snap and the lace will rip. Hey, Clint, likewise on that hair coloring—6 weeks tops and you’ll be back again. Get her a $9 box of L’Oréal and be done with it. They sell it at Walgreens an aisle over from the pomegranate body wash and gel deodorant. I don’t think that was spanx sticking out the bottom of her sausage casing dress but rather a leg band holding her mic pack. I mean, if it were Spanx, it wasn’t doing its job very well.

Good for Brittany for getting up from that dinner and walking away from that soon-to-be-seen-on-Discovery-ID creeper Marcelo. I just worry that the poor girl is trapped there with no place to go but back to his room with him. Maybe she can call up one of those other dudes she was corresponding with and then throw those quarters at Marcelo while escaping. Stranger danger! Stranger danger!

What’s the name of the redhead with Matt? I don’t quite think it’s Claire, but I’m going with that for now... Dear lord, as if the forest sex wasn’t bad enough, when “Claire” said Matt filled up her stomach with babies, I gagged a little bit then laughed so hard. Rewound to hear her say “filled myyyYy  stomach with baaaAAAaaabies” one more time, and nearly fell off my couch laughing.

This show knows what it’s doing giving us only 2 minutes of Megan-Michael-Sarah at the end of every episode because this ultimate cliffhanger keeps me hanging on. Sarah has the Queen t-shirt but Megan is his Queen?!?! Ooooooh! Juicy!

Clint will probably accompany the $350 investment panties with a $6 bottle of pomegranate something or other.

Makes me wonder how many women getting out of prison fall prey to the Marcelos of this world. Never thought about what an extremely vulnerable position that was to be in. Many of them are probably estranged from their families or have families that it's best to be estranged from. These women need compassionate halfway houses, not dictatorial boyfriends.

And, it goes without saying that someone needs to talk to the red-headed forest fawn and tell her that babies aren't really born from your stomach. It just looks that way to her. It's just sad because when the dude says he needs vacation time, I think he really means, "I need a little meth." Just a little, of course, and then it's right to work!

I know we've only heard Michael talk just a little, but did anyone else get the impression that he's also suffering from a fried brain? Might explain some of his decisions. Being a sociopath is at the root of them, but his poor execution of his decisions... that might be the result of too many dead brain cells. Sad when these guys get started on the drugs so early.

Edited December 31, 2018 by CoachWristletJen

[IvySpice]

Marcellino's performance on the "date" just gets worse the more I think about it. Talking over her constantly and then accusing HER of interrupting. Asking her "Are you going to listen?" and when she said, "Yes, I will," snapping, "You're not, cause you're talking." You asked her a question, asshole! And this is how he acts on a first date with cameras rolling? He wants a silent sex doll. I hope he buys one.

[Spike]

1 hour ago, JenE4 said:

Did the producers bring Clint to the “Rodeo Drive” of wherever they are with $300 underwear and $400 hair salon trips? Poor idiot doesn’t know any better. I loved when told the price of the underwear he says something like “It will last forever” as if the higher the price, the more mileage you’ll get out of it. These are investment panties that we can bequeath to our children. And the sales lady was all, “Yes, the memories will last forever,” knowing one wash too many and the elastic will snap and the lace will rip. Hey, Clint, likewise on that hair coloring—6 weeks tops and you’ll be back again. Get her a $9 box of L’Oréal and be done with it. They sell it at Walgreens an aisle over from the pomegranate body wash and gel deodorant. I don’t think that was spanx sticking out the bottom of her sausage casing dress but rather a leg band holding her mic pack. I mean, if it were Spanx, it wasn’t doing its job very well.

Good for Brittany for getting up from that dinner and walking away from that soon-to-be-seen-on-Discovery-ID creeper Marcelo. I just worry that the poor girl is trapped there with no place to go but back to his room with him. Maybe she can call up one of those other dudes she was corresponding with and then throw those quarters at Marcelo while escaping. Stranger danger! Stranger danger!

What’s the name of the redhead with Matt? I don’t quite think it’s Claire, but I’m going with that for now... Dear lord, as if the forest sex wasn’t bad enough, when “Claire” said Matt filled up her stomach with babies, I gagged a little bit then laughed so hard. Rewound to hear her say “filled myyyYy  stomach with baaaAAAaaabies” one more time, and nearly fell off my couch laughing.

This show knows what it’s doing giving us only 2 minutes of Megan-Michael-Sarah at the end of every episode because this ultimate cliffhanger keeps me hanging on. Sarah has the Queen t-shirt but Megan is his Queen?!?! Ooooooh! Juicy!

I couldn’t figure out if she meant she swallowed or she is one of those folks who thinks babies are carried in the stomach.

[Drogo]

9 minutes ago, Spike said:

I couldn’t figure out if she meant she swallowed or she is one of those folks who thinks babies are carried in the stomach.

[Kangatush]

I'm annoyed that this episode made me like Lizzie.  She got out and binged on junk food and lottery tickets.  And she spoke with pride about her daughter shopping at Good Will for her.  

Tracie got out and had a laundry list of demands of things that only really benefit her.  And hon, maybe you're "bad at parole" because you reach for alcohol within hours of getting out of prison.  

Matt and Tracie will both go back to prison.  Brittney has a good chance to stay out, especially if she gets away from Marcellino.  Lizzie has a chance, if she stays clean.

[sempervivum]

1 hour ago, Spike said:

I couldn’t figure out if she meant she swallowed or she is one of those folks who thinks babies are carried in the stomach.

Eh, I can't imagine saying 'you filled my UTERUS with babies'- kills the romance, you know?

Does anyone know how to start or request a new forum? I'm amazed there isn't anything available for 'Extreme Love'!

Edited December 31, 2018 by sempervivum

[CoachWristletJen]

2 hours ago, sempervivum said:

Eh, I can't imagine saying 'you filled my UTERUS with babies'- kills the romance, you know?

Does anyone know how to start or request a new forum? I'm amazed there isn't anything available for 'Extreme Love'!

In these shows the happy couple usually makes a deal out of shooing the camera crew out of the room, and there's some shtick that goes with that as they make sure all the microphones are off their soon to be naked bodies, etc. 

However, in this case, there was no room to shoo them out of, and had there been, it wouldn't have occurred to either one of these ding-dongs to do so.

Can you imagine the camera crew? Like, what the hell do they do? They're not in the business of making pornos, and, even if they were, they wouldn't want to make a special needs porno. We felt traumatized watching it, but THEY WERE THERE! They had to see it and hear it... smell it. No wonder the lens was wandering around desperately like, "Oh look, a bee. A flower. Dear God, let me disappear into this flower, please."

Afterwards the two crazy kids pulled their clothes back on and the the crew grabbed the camera guy who was rocking back and forth and babbling about bees and flowers.  It was time to hit the road and find the cabin. She had babies in her belly and they had a poofy thing. The world was theirs.

[Spike]

31 minutes ago, CoachWristletJen said:

In these shows the happy couple usually makes a deal out of shooing the camera crew out of the room, and there's some shtick that goes with that as they make sure all the microphones are off their soon to be naked bodies, etc. 

However, in this case, there was no room to shoo them out of, and had there been, it wouldn't have occurred to either one of these ding-dongs to do so.

Can you imagine the camera crew? Like, what the hell do they do? They're not in the business of making pornos, and, even if they were, they wouldn't want to make a special needs porno. We felt traumatized watching it, but THEY WERE THERE! They had to see it and hear it... smell it. No wonder the lens was wandering around desperately like, "Oh look, a bee. A flower. Dear God, let me disappear into this flower, please."

Afterwards the two crazy kids pulled their clothes back on and the the crew grabbed the camera guy who was rocking back and forth and babbling about bees and flowers.  It was time to hit the road and find the cabin. She had babies in her belly and they had a poofy thing. The world was theirs.

I have a feeling Matt was a two pump chump.

[Marsupial]

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If you've ever been around a smart person who has spent significant time in prison, they'll tell you stuff about yourself you'd swear that was kept hidden. It's like they cultivate a whole different type of survival/hunting skills so she's probably reading Marcelino like a book... or rather, a primer.

Never underestimate street smarts. Seriously.

 

This is spot on. It's actually why people who have been in prison and set their minds to improving their lot in life can be extremely successful. The problem is that we don't have much of a support system for people transitioning from jail/prison back to society. They have a hard time getting jobs, places to live and all the rest. But with the right family support, they can really make it work.

In Brittany's case, I am guessing that at some point she has to check in with a p.o. and report on her progress in those areas. She has to check in with somebody, I am thinking. I don't recall what they said about her immediate family but perhaps that's another resource for her. Also, what about a halfway house? I know they don't have the best reputation but surely it would be better than THIS.

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We felt traumatized watching it, but THEY WERE THERE! They had to see it and hear it... smell it. No wonder the lens was wandering around desperately like, "Oh look, a bee. A flower. Dear God, let me disappear into this flower, please."

At least if they were shooting porn, they would be paid better, not to mention contributing much more to society.

Edited December 31, 2018 by Marsupial
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[Pepper Mostly]

On 12/28/2018 at 10:55 PM, Spike said:

He’s 40 and has decided he wants to settle down pronto.  Maybe someone his own age would share that interest, not a bisexual wild child in her 20s.

A woman his own age? Who might have a career, family, resources, and opinions of her own? Hahahahahaha. Marcelino fancies himself a modern day Henry Higgins. But Brittany is no Eliza Doolittle. And I mean that in the nicest possible way. I like her. She seems thoughtful and intelligent. I hope she can find another way.

On 12/29/2018 at 10:01 PM, annewithaneee said:

Personally, since I normally like darkening my color and my hair holds onto it well, I just do henna at home, mix together a dark auburn. With long, super thick hair, I always need double the amount of dye and it just gets to be too expensive. Probably haven't gotten to three or four bills, but I've been pretty close. 

I've colored my hair with henna for over 40 years. Avigal auburn mixed with a combination of coffee and water gives me a vibrant natural looking deep auburn. For about $10 every six weeks or so. 

8 hours ago, JenE4 said:

This show knows what it’s doing giving us only 2 minutes of Megan-Michael-Sarah at the end of every episode because this ultimate cliffhanger keeps me hanging on. Sarah has the Queen t-shirt but Megan is his Queen?!?! Ooooooh! Juicy!

I have to confess I did not see that coming, and I am here for it. Poor Sarah, who seems sweet, if somewhat naive. Megan is an idiot. Pass the popcorn. 

[Kangatush]

4 hours ago, CoachWristletJen said:

They had to see it and hear it... smell it. No wonder the lens was wandering around desperately like, "Oh look, a bee. A flower. Dear God, let me disappear into this flower, please."

Look! A goat!

[Reality police]

8 hours ago, Kangatush said:

I'm annoyed that this episode made me like Lizzie.  She got out and binged on junk food and lottery tickets.  And she spoke with pride about her daughter shopping at Good Will for her.  

Tracie got out and had a laundry list of demands of things that only really benefit her.  And hon, maybe you're "bad at parole" because you reach for alcohol within hours of getting out of prison.  

Matt and Tracie will both go back to prison.  Brittney has a good chance to stay out, especially if she gets away from Marcellino.  Lizzie has a chance, if she stays clean.

Lizzie only demanded a four br house with a pool. That she has final approval over. Very reasonable. 

[Pepper Mostly]

Lizzie will be back in jail before you can say "$30 scratcher" 

[CoachWristletJen]

1 hour ago, Kangatush said:

Look! A goat!

LOL! 

[KnoxForPres]

4 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said:

A woman his own age? Who might have a career, family, resources, and opinions of her own? Hahahahahaha. Marcelino fancies himself a modern day Henry Higgins. But Brittany is no Eliza Doolittle. And I mean that in the nicest possible way. I like her. She seems thoughtful and intelligent. I hope she can find another way.

I've colored my hair with henna for over 40 years. Avigal auburn mixed with a combination of coffee and water gives me a vibrant natural looking deep auburn. For about $10 every six weeks or so. 

I have to confess I did not see that coming, and I am here for it. Poor Sarah, who seems sweet, if somewhat naive. Megan is an idiot. Pass the popcorn. 

Here’s hoping (and agreeing) Eliza Dolittle she is not. 

She has an almost zen like quality about her. I hope she finds someone who will let her take leisurely showers before looking at mermaid gift shops and oral sex.

Im grateful Marcel(Idon’t care spelling) showed his true colors early. She was accepting and appreciated everything. Even the green dress she was funny yet thoughtful about. All he had to be was kind. And he was a controlling, food stealing  dick instead which she handled perfectly.

So ole Clint’s girl was a “bombshell” big boobed blonde in pics and comes out out a two tone haired candy corn teeth woman. 

The audience gasps “shit!  He was catfished!”   

Clint says “she’s so much more beautiful in person”.

And then proceeds to drop money on her. I found the salon online and women’s cuts start at 85+ and I feel they did 350 plus on her hair. They did a good job. 

Is the ginger named Caitlyn with Matt?  They are just a train wreck. As said above when he realized she’s the best he can get so he not it broke my heart. She’s neurotic to be sure but cute enough to steal some guys heart-though realize this bar is very low. 

The player just bores the hell out of me. It’s like if you watch A Million Little Things. I knows there’s a twist- and I don’t give a shit. 

[Hannah94]

I finally realized who Matt kinda reminds me of - as far as facial expressions and speech. Bubba from Forrest Gump; he has the opposite of an overbite, whatever that is called. Watch the scene when Caitlyn is driving him through the woods and he is saying how he needs to do "it" right now. The lower half of his mouth protrudes and you can barely understand a word he says, thus they need to caption it at the bottom of the screen. Bubba has nicer teeth, of course. And is overall just better-looking than Matt.
 

[CoachWristletJen]

The entire cast needs this product.

[IvySpice]

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he has the opposite of an overbite, whatever that is called

As you might expect, it's an underbite.

[Kangatush]

I know "smart" isn't a word applied to any of these people, but you couldn't pay me enough to have unprotected sexual contact with someone fresh out of prison.  And I love how the former inmates all say, "It's been x amount of time since I've had sex with a (whatever the opposite gender to theirs is)".  At least the ladies are honest about some same sex relationships.  

[Lusterleaf]

Tracie's zebra dress... OMG. Also Clint is really gullible. $350 for a dye job that looks like it could have been done with a box of Clairol. And $150 for a bra and $75 for panties. That saleswoman's day must have been  made with that commission she got.

Caitlyn and Matt banging in the woods, nasty!

Marcelino comes off as creepy and controlling. He was talking to Brittany like she was a child.

[Spike]

2 hours ago, IvySpice said:

As you might expect, it's an underbite.

I have heard protruding jaw as well.

[zenme]

43 minutes ago, Lusterleaf said:

Tracie's zebra dress... OMG. Also Clint is really gullible. $350 for a dye job that looks like it could have been done with a box of Clairol. And $150 for a bra and $75 for panties. That saleswoman's day must have been  made with that commission she got.

Was there no Walmart around? A Ross? 

[BravoAddict72]

I thought I couldn't hate Michael any more for playing those 2 girls. Then he opened his mouth. He stole a car with a gun and couldn't understand why he was in jail? Then tried to blame society for being another black teenager they wanted off the street? How about you put yourself in there with armed robbery! He seems like the type that will never take responsibility for his own actions.

[Neurochick]

Brittany looks like a young Peta Wilson to me.

[Neurochick]

6 hours ago, BravoAddict72 said:

I thought I couldn't hate Michael any more for playing those 2 girls. Then he opened his mouth. He stole a car with a gun and couldn't understand why he was in jail? Then tried to blame society for being another black teenager they wanted off the street? How about you put yourself in there with armed robbery! He seems like the type that will never take responsibility for his own actions.

The thing is, not everyone who does the same crime does the same time.  A fifteen year old middle class suburban kid does the same thing, his family gets him a lawyer to say, “he’s just going through a phase,” and boom, kid does probation.

[Drogo]

13 hours ago, Neurochick said:

A fifteen year old middle class suburban kid does the same thing, his family gets him a lawyer to say, “he’s just going through a phase,” and boom, kid does probation.

Doubtful.  If it was bad enough for him to be tried as an adult at 15, it was bad.

[BravoAddict72]

14 hours ago, Neurochick said:

The thing is, not everyone who does the same crime does the same time.  A fifteen year old middle class suburban kid does the same thing, his family gets him a lawyer to say, “he’s just going through a phase,” and boom, kid does probation.

Everyone should have to pay their time, regardless of race. However, he said he had been running the streets, selling drugs, stealing, etc leading up to this so I don't think it was his first brush with the law. If he was charged as an adult for armed robbery it must have been pretty bad.

[Pepper Mostly]

22 hours ago, zenme said:

Was there no Walmart around? A Ross? 

I am willing to bet that Walmart and Ross are more plentiful than fancy lingerie shops. And every mall has a Victoria's Secret1 What was he doing in a boutique lingerie shop? How did he find it?

[Mrs. Hanson]

49 minutes ago, BravoAddict72 said:

Everyone should have to pay their time, regardless of race. However, he said he had been running the streets, selling drugs, stealing, etc leading up to this so I don't think it was his first brush with the law. If he was charged as an adult for armed robbery it must have been pretty bad.

I was kinda surprised that he only got five years for an armed carjacking.  You need to support your mom and sister?  Your mom can get a job, you can stay in school and try to better yourself.  Has the bar dropped so low that we are grateful for an convicted felon who has two women at the same time?  And he does not exactly ooze charm and warmth, either.

[Drogo]

52 minutes ago, BravoAddict72 said:

However, he said he had been running the streets, selling drugs, stealing, etc leading up to this so I don't think it was his first brush with the law. If he was charged as an adult for armed robbery it must have been pretty bad.

But he was doing it "for his family"...!

[Mrs. Hanson]

1 hour ago, Drogo said:

But he was doing it "for his family"...!

Well then that makes it all right!!!  (not)

For  guy who wants to be seen as tough and "street cred wise" he came off as victim-y.  "They wanted another black kid off the streets."   No, YOU took yourself off the streets by carjacking with a gun.  And I would throw the book at a white kid, too.  

[Spike]

25 minutes ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Well then that makes it all right!!!  (not)

For  guy who wants to be seen as tough and "street cred wise" he came off as victim-y.  "They wanted another black kid off the streets."   No, YOU took yourself off the streets by carjacking with a gun.  And I would throw the book at a white kid, too.  

Also when you give the judge attitude at sentencing (which something tells me he did), they throw the book at you.

[Neurochick]

I'm not saying that he didn't deserve the sentence, I'm just saying that not everybody gets the same sentence for the same crime.  I believe it has been proven that black people get harsher sentences than white people.  Just saying.

[Spike]

1 hour ago, Neurochick said:

I'm not saying that he didn't deserve the sentence, I'm just saying that not everybody gets the same sentence for the same crime.  I believe it has been proven that black people get harsher sentences than white people.  Just saying.

I agree with you.  Just look at the disparity between the treatment of crack possession and powder cocaine possession.  I would hope that a judge would not give a white kid who committed an armed carjacking probation, but I’m sure similar things have happened.  It may have more to do with having the money to hire good lawyers (see OJ) than just race.

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

On 12/31/2018 at 12:47 PM, CoachWristletJen said:

 We felt traumatized watching it, but THEY WERE THERE! They had to see it and hear it... smell it. No wonder the lens was wandering around desperately like, "Oh look, a bee. A flower. Dear God, let me disappear into this flower, please."

Afterwards the two crazy kids pulled their clothes back on and the the crew grabbed the camera guy who was rocking back and forth and babbling about bees and flowers.  It was time to hit the road and find the cabin. She had babies in her belly and they had a poofy thing. The world was theirs.

[Drogo]

2 hours ago, Neurochick said:

I'm not saying that he didn't deserve the sentence, I'm just saying that not everybody gets the same sentence for the same crime.  I believe it has been proven that black people get harsher sentences than white people.  Just saying.

Truth. But in Michael's case (if it was in fact an armed carjacking) I think he may have gotten off easy, particularly tried as an adult. 

Some sociopathic tendencies there, too.

[Mrs. Hanson]

2 hours ago, Drogo said:

Truth. But in Michael's case (if it was in fact an armed carjacking) I think he may have gotten off easy, particularly tried as an adult. 

Some sociopathic tendencies there, too.

I agree that black youth are treated more harshly than white youth, and it is a fact that there are more young men of color than in college - at least that stat was true about ten years ago, I believe it is still true today.  I do agree with @Drogo that five years was a little light, imo.  Carjacking is one thing, armed carjacking is quite another.  Either way, the dude is a douche.  And may I get in the shallow end for a minute?  It bugs me when people (usually guys) recline the passenger seat (or drivers seat) to look like they are literally in the back seat.  SIT UP!!!  Gonna go shoo kids off my lawn now, thanks.

Edited January 4, 2019 by Mrs. Hanson

[Hannah94]

6 hours ago, Spike said:

I agree with you.  Just look at the disparity between the treatment of crack possession and powder cocaine possession.  I would hope that a judge would not give a white kid who committed an armed carjacking probation, but I’m sure similar things have happened.  It may have more to do with having the money to hire good lawyers (see OJ) than just race.

It definitely has to do with money, not race. Regardless of your race, if your family has money, you are going to get a good lawyer and a lighter sentence. "Kids" from poor families, whether black, white, etc., don't stand much of a chance in court with just a public defender.

[Hannah94]

On 12/31/2018 at 10:07 AM, Spike said:

I couldn’t figure out if she meant she swallowed or she is one of those folks who thinks babies are carried in the stomach.

I had to watch this episode a couple times, to make sure I wasn't hallucinating. She said (in the morning, in bed) "my tummy is still full". He said "why" (or something similar). She said "because you filled me up". I am assuming she meant she swallowed the "babies" they then spoke of. Because no tummy is going to get "full" from having a shit ton of sex. If I remember correctly, a night full of sex typically eventually leads to hunger. Gross. Just gross. Both of them. Good Lord, their families are watching this.

[sconstant]

I know there are a lot of valid things to notice in this episode, but - Tracie, Brittany called and said that before you get expensive makeup and your hair done, take a shower first.  Seriously, $350 for you to look good from the neck up would be great, but you're changing your booty into the $300 panties without washing?  I think they made "washing off prison" the title of this ep so they could highlight the icky fact that not all of them did.

[Spike]

1 hour ago, Hannah94 said:

I had to watch this episode a couple times, to make sure I wasn't hallucinating. She said (in the morning, in bed) "my tummy is still full". He said "why" (or something similar). She said "because you filled me up". I am assuming she meant she swallowed the "babies" they then spoke of. Because no tummy is going to get "full" from having a shit ton of sex. If I remember correctly, a night full of sex typically eventually leads to hunger. Gross. Just gross. Both of them. Good Lord, their families are watching this.

Based on the quality of food inmates are provided, it most likely was not delicious.  

[Hannah94]

3 minutes ago, sconstant said:

I know there are a lot of valid things to notice in this episode, but - Tracie, Brittany called and said that before you get expensive makeup and your hair done, take a shower first.  Seriously, $350 for you to look good from the neck up would be great, but you're changing your booty into the $300 panties without washing?  I think they made "washing off prison" the title of this ep so they could highlight the icky fact that not all of them did.

I lmao at this....quite loudly. So sincerely honest, yet so very funny too! 

[LDHW]

On 1/2/2019 at 3:29 PM, BravoAddict72 said:

I thought I couldn't hate Michael any more for playing those 2 girls. Then he opened his mouth. He stole a car with a gun and couldn't understand why he was in jail? Then tried to blame society for being another black teenager they wanted off the street? How about you put yourself in there with armed robbery! He seems like the type that will never take responsibility for his own actions.

WORD × INFINITY !!

[PityFree]

8 hours ago, Spike said:

Based on the quality of food inmates are provided, it most likely was not delicious.  

 Ugh. You are killing me. I am dry heaving at this thought. 

[CoachWristletJen]

On 1/3/2019 at 6:01 PM, Mahamid Frauded Me said:

ROFLOL! OMG! I'm laughing so hard I can barely breathe....

[Spike]

1 hour ago, PityFree said:

 Ugh. You are killing me. I am dry heaving at this thought. 

More pineapple please.

[HaaCHOO]

6 hours ago, LDHW said:

Then he opened his mouth. He stole a car with a gun and couldn't understand why he was in jail?

Well...he did have a point (probably made here a couple of times).  He was 15 and sent to adult prison--do not pass GO, do not collect  $200.  He even whined (I'm paraphrasing), "I ain't even had a chance to be in juvie yet."