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I don't know what all constitutes defamation of character and am wondering if the security guard has the grounds for a lawsuit.

No, because he wasn't named.

I'm pretty sure there was a court hearing for the Target arrest scheduled for today, but I didn't read anything, so maybe she got it rescheduled - again!

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I don't know what all constitutes defamation of character and am wondering if the security guard has the grounds for a lawsuit. Does he?

If so Monty needs to shut the F#@* up and quit posting like that or he's going to be juggling court dates with Kim and Chemo.

Monty referred to the security guard as DEFECATION the character of Kim.  Cements the deal with me Monty is full of shit.

 

Since cancer and faking it has been popular lately I must say although lung cancer is a fast spreading cancer I am not sure that Monty's cancer went from easily curable to incurable between January and May.  I smell a rat in his story.  With every x-ray there is generally a radiologist's report and I don't see a radiologist overlooking a tumor. Why would a friend who is am MD have to direct Monty to a hospital?  I do see a hard partying Monty blowing off a follow up until he was really feeling it.  I think there was something up with the hurry up wedding at Hiltons and the fact Rick and Kathy blew off going to Mexico for the second wedding makes me wonder what was up there.  So we are now suppose to believe he went from dying to "beating  it"?  I feel for his daughters and hope he hasn't totally blown through his inheritance.  I am thinking maybe Kim exaggerated her dying ex-husband for a storyline.

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Eh, I don't believe a word that Monty says.

 

If you take a step back to look at the big picture, Kim was doing alright in her sobriety before he came back into close contact (wasn't she?).  I believe we read last fall that her family was concerned about her relapsing under the "stress" that having Monty there brought back into her life.  Maybe it wasn't just "stress" that he brought back with him.  Her family was also concerned when Ken, "gay bull-mastiff" tm Brandi (and I bet "her gays" are still thanking her for bringing them into that nickname), was in her life because they felt he was a bad influence.  I guess it is easier to cut someone out when he is almost a total stranger than when he is part of the family.

 

Monty was there when this whole thing blew up. She was out at dinner with him the night before (thanks for instagramming that Monty) when she was supposedly in 100% pain.  She was shown trying on dresses for him to approve before the Poker Party, shown feeling no pain (another Monty Instagram).  She was using drugs with him/using his drugs when she got in the limo with Lisa.  Kim wondered aloud about where Monty was at the poker party.  He was around when she checked into the hospital for the mysterious 5/7/9 hospital stay. 

 

The show tried to cast a suspicious light on the wine-pairing lunch for Kim's falling off the wagon but it is rather easy for an addict to say no to things when people are looking (especially TV cameras).  It's what you do when nobody's looking that is key.   If only Monty's ex-wife/drug buddy didn't have a job where she was filmed a good deal of the time, they could party in peace.

 

It was very telling to me when Kim didn't know which day she had spoken with Kyle (after some party with a producer-mandated Kyle/Brandi fracas) and Kyle's reaction to it (Kyle got angry with Kim and then cried).  It was a deja vu moment for Kyle; she knew that the old days were here and Kim was back at square one.

 

It's no wonder that Monty tries to excuse everything with Kim.  He's very busy waiving his arms and saying "Don't look over here - look over there!"  He just wants to party in peace.

 

Jerk.

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Eh, I don't believe a word that Monty says.

 

If you take a step back to look at the big picture, Kim was doing alright in her sobriety before he came back into close contact (wasn't she?).  I believe we read last fall that her family was concerned about her relapsing under the "stress" that having Monty there brought back into her life.  Maybe it wasn't just "stress" that he brought back with him.  Her family was also concerned when Ken, "gay bull-mastiff" tm Brandi (and I bet "her gays" are still thanking her for bringing them into that nickname), was in her life because they felt he was a bad influence.  I guess it is easier to cut someone out when he is almost a total stranger than when he is part of the family.

 

Monty was there when this whole thing blew up. She was out at dinner with him the night before (thanks for instagramming that Monty) when she was supposedly in 100% pain.  She was shown trying on dresses for him to approve before the Poker Party, shown feeling no pain (another Monty Instagram).  She was using drugs with him/using his drugs when she got in the limo with Lisa.  Kim wondered aloud about where Monty was at the poker party.  He was around when she checked into the hospital for the mysterious 5/7/9 hospital stay. 

 

The show tried to cast a suspicious light on the wine-pairing lunch for Kim's falling off the wagon but it is rather easy for an addict to say no to things when people are looking (especially TV cameras).  It's what you do when nobody's looking that is key.   If only Monty's ex-wife/drug buddy didn't have a job where she was filmed a good deal of the time, they could party in peace.

 

It was very telling to me when Kim didn't know which day she had spoken with Kyle (after some party with a producer-mandated Kyle/Brandi fracas) and Kyle's reaction to it (Kyle got angry with Kim and then cried).  It was a deja vu moment for Kyle; she knew that the old days were here and Kim was back at square one.

 

It's no wonder that Monty tries to excuse everything with Kim.  He's very busy waiving his arms and saying "Don't look over here - look over there!"  He just wants to party in peace.

 

Jerk.

I don't think Kim has been sober for longer than a few months at best. There were reports that she was high/drunk in PR 2 seasons ago and before that, she was high in Paris just months after getting out of rehab. There were also reports of her acting "out of it" aka/high/drunk at a party for 1 of Kathy's kids before filming began the season of the Paris trip. I think Monty is just another excuse Kim and her family/supporters are using as her excuse for relapsing this time around. There will always be an excuse, be it she took the wrong medication for days on end, the stress of a dying ex husband, her daughter getting married, her sons break down, her dog biting people, her dog getting taken from her, moving yet again, she's no longer a "Star", the stress of being a "Star", being broke, having money or whatever else she can come up with, the list/possibilities are endless.

 

I do agree that Monty is fearful that someone will say that he is not only enabling her but also getting high/drunk with her.

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Monty referred to the security guard as DEFECATION the character of Kim.  Cements the deal with me Monty is full of shit.

 

Since cancer and faking it has been popular lately I must say although lung cancer is a fast spreading cancer I am not sure that Monty's cancer went from easily curable to incurable between January and May.  I smell a rat in his story.  With every x-ray there is generally a radiologist's report and I don't see a radiologist overlooking a tumor. Why would a friend who is am MD have to direct Monty to a hospital?  I do see a hard partying Monty blowing off a follow up until he was really feeling it.  I think there was something up with the hurry up wedding at Hiltons and the fact Rick and Kathy blew off going to Mexico for the second wedding makes me wonder what was up there.  So we are now suppose to believe he went from dying to "beating  it"?  I feel for his daughters and hope he hasn't totally blown through his inheritance.  I am thinking maybe Kim exaggerated her dying ex-husband for a storyline.

I agree, something is way off about Monty's cancer story. I am not saying he does not have cancer but I do think they exaggerated how sick he was or how advanced the cancer was/is was for Kim to have a sympathetic storyline this season. Too bad she blew it by forgetting her high/drunk behavior is easily recognized by the viewers because we have all seen it before from her.

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The arguments given for Monty being "off" are good ones, I think, and pretty much believable, so I don't want to argue back again, but I do have questions.  For instance Brooke.  What does she know?   What has she told her new husband about Monty?  Does she go along with the story that he's dying of cancer, or does she not know the truth?

 

How does a person go from supposedly having brain and lung cancer to becoming completely well?  How do you tell people some plausible story to explain it?

 

How do you explain his going from thin to "skin and bones"?  Look at his shirt collar in the Christmas photo and how much wider his neck used to be.

 

Isn't it possible for a guy to get an attack of bravado and go on and on about getting back at a security guard, then realize later that he sounded foolish?  That he didn't necessarily have to be drunk or drugged to do so?

 

These are just a few of the questions that float through my mind.  Isn't it possible that both sides might have a few holes in them?

 

 

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The arguments given for Monty being "off" are good ones, I think, and pretty much believable, so I don't want to argue back again, but I do have questions.  For instance Brooke.  What does she know?   What has she told her new husband about Monty?  Does she go along with the story that he's dying of cancer, or does she not know the truth?

 

How does a person go from supposedly having brain and lung cancer to becoming completely well?  How do you tell people some plausible story to explain it?

 

How do you explain his going from thin to "skin and bones"?  Look at his shirt collar in the Christmas photo and how much wider his neck used to be.

 

Isn't it possible for a guy to get an attack of bravado and go on and on about getting back at a security guard, then realize later that he sounded foolish?  That he didn't necessarily have to be drunk or drugged to do so?

 

These are just a few of the questions that float through my mind.  Isn't it possible that both sides might have a few holes in them?

The story that Kim, or Kyle, gave was that his lung cancer had spread to his brain by the time they were filmed dress shopping but no one ever mentioned it again after that. It is possible, very possible, that Brooke went along with the story Kim used to please both her mother and father. I don't doubt that Monty would not have issues with the story because IMO, he would do what ever Kim asked. I am not sure that Kyle or Kathy knew the truth until after the first wedding at Kathy's house or after filming was finished, which would explain Kathy not going to the second ceremony in Mexico.

 

As for his weight loss, it would not take much weight loss for Monty to get as thin as he now is and I do believe he has lung cancer. IMO, it is the brain cancer that is in doubt because he has never mentioned it on his IG account that I have seen/read, just the initial diagnosis of lung cancer.

 

In the post following his since deleted rant about the Target SG, he mentioned that he took the post down for his "daughter" and that she would go over what he posted later and make changes if needed. In other words, Brooke or 1 of his other daughters asked him to remove that post and that she would talk to him later about it. I think his daughters are trying to monitor what he posts as much as possible but he still manages to post some questionable ones before anyone catches him.

 

Brooke's new husband and his family have known the Richards clan for a long time so I am sure they are well aware of the problems Kim/Monty have and I am sure they don't blame Brooke or her siblings for what Kim/Monty say/do.

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How does a person go from supposedly having brain and lung cancer to becoming completely well?  How do you tell people some plausible story to explain it?

 

I don't think Monty is completely well. I think that because his post about "beating cancer" is so rambling and  confusing, that people are thinking that he is in remission. But, I read it as, "I was supposed to die 4 years ago and I am still here, so therefore I won and I beat Cancer by continuing to live my life with love and never allowing the negative to get me down." There was nothing in that post to suggest that his cancer has been cured, only that even though he has it and was told he would die within a matter of months, he is still here and refuses to let the cancer win. I had to read it a few times, but I am pretty sure that is what he was trying to get across.

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I feel for Brooke, both parents seem to be a little off their rockers.  Not a great thing to have on both sides of the gene pool.  I will say a year later Brooke still travels twice a month so married life has been good to her. 

 

Kim's kids are probably relieved their mother's kookiness is now public, I can only imagine what they struggled with privately.

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Here is a link to his IG account and a photo of himself that Monty posted a week ago. Although he is a bit scruffy, his color is good, and he is not as thin as a few months ago.  https://instagram.com/p/7JaG5kwfHP/?taken-by=montybrinson

 

Also, in his last post, to Camille of all people, he speaks once again of his "lung cancer", no mention of it spreading let alone to his brain, and says that he started a very new treatment for "LUNG cancer" and that it seems to be working.

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WireWrap, you deserve a medal!  I swear, you and Columbo should have been partners!  If you ever have the urge to join me in robbing a bank, please let me know!  :)  I think you'd have every point covered before we even started!!!

 

I also didn't see a gown shopping or hear Kyle make that statement.  I wonder whether we were on vacation when that episode was on.  I would have readily agreed with you if I'd known that Monty had brain cancer too.  I thought it was only in the lungs.  Now that I feel like I know the full picture, I see exactly what you and others have been talking about.  Sorry for all the confusion, but many thanks for filling me in.  #WireWrap  #RHOBH  #no confusion  #LOVE

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Doesn't having lung cancer that spreads to the brain mean, you have lung cancer that spread to the brain, not that you have lung cancer and brain cancer? My mother had kindney cancer that spread to the lungs and possiblly the brain.  Her diagnosis was still kidney cancer. They never said that she had kidney cancer and lung cancer.  The family  never said that she had lung cancer, despite it having spead there. 

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Isn't Monty's situation similar to Valerie Harper's though? She was on a kind of a goodbye tour over a year ago. She had lung cancer at some point, beat it, was diagnosed with brain cancer with 4 months to live, improved and she's still here. Unfortunately, I'm not sure she's still thriving, but, aren't their stories similar?

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Doesn't hHaving lung cancer that spreads to the brain means you have lung cancer that spread to the brain, not that you have lung cancer and brain cancer? My mother had kindney cancer that spread to the lungs and possiblly the brain but her diagnosis was still kidney cancer. They never said that she had kindney cancer and lung cancer.  The family  never said that she had lung cancer, despite it having spead there. 

Yes, it is still lung cancer that has metathesized/spread but Monty has made no mention of the cancer spreading, anywhere. That is why there are questions IMO. 

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Yes, it is still lung cancer that has metathesized/spread but Monty has made no mention of the cancer spreading, anywhere. That is why there are questions IMO. 

So help me out,  because this was a while ago. Monty has not claimed to have cancer that has spread to the brain, nor has he claimed brain cancer, right? Kim said he had brain cancer on the episode with the wedding dress fitting?

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Isn't Monty's situation similar to Valerie Harper's though? She was on a kind of a goodbye tour over a year ago. She had lung cancer at some point, beat it, was diagnosed with brain cancer with 4 months to live, improved and she's still here. Unfortunately, I'm not sure she's still thriving, but, aren't their stories similar?

I am not sure how long there was between her beating lung cancer and her diagnosis of brain cancer. Monty got sick in Jan. 2014, went to the Dr. at about stage 1 or 2 but was not diagnosed until he went to a different Dr. in May when he was already at stage 4. His cancer seems to be a very fast growing cancer, especially in light of them saying it had spread to his brain in a very short time and he stopped responding to the treatment/chemo in December 2014. If his cancer was as bad as Kim claimed, I am not sure he would still be around now or be able to travel like he did. There are different forms of lung cancer and each acts differently, some are slower growing/spreading and other are fast and spread like wildfire. I think Kim made his sound like the latter form for her storyline this season and that is 1 of the reasons questions are being asked now. They moved up Brooke's wedding because they did not think he would live to see her marry in Mexico.

So help me out,  because this was a while ago. Monty has not claimed to have cancer that has spread to the brain, nor has he claimed brain cancer, right? Kim said he had brain cancer on the episode with the wedding dress fitting?

Yes, Monty has never mentioned his cancer spreading, anywhere and it was either Kim or Kyle that made that claim dress shopping. That was why they moved the wedding up, they did not think Monty would be alive to see her marry in Mexico this past Feb, which was the original wedding plan.

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One thing is certain:  Monty is not doing half so well as he would make us think he is.  I've wondered frequently whether Monty subscribes to the theory that an upbeat attitude plays a big part in healing.  If so, I'm all for it.  If the mind can truly influence the body to produce healing properties, it seems like a worthwhile endeavor.  Just a thought.

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One thing is certain:  Monty is not doing half so well as he would make us think he is.  I've wondered frequently whether Monty subscribes to the theory that an upbeat attitude plays a big part in healing.  If so, I'm all for it.  If the mind can truly influence the body to produce healing properties, it seems like a worthwhile endeavor.  Just a thought.

There is much to be said about mind over matter. Yes, how a person deals with illness/stress can and often does have an impact on how they respond to treatment and/or how they fight a disease/illness. I don't think anyone begrudges Monty having an upbeat outlook on his cancer battle and his life.

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This is the blog Kim wrote after the wedding dress episode.  She says he has lung cancer that spread to his brain and spine.

 

Brooke and Thayer originally were to get married early next year-- a destination wedding on the beach. Brooke's dad/my best friend Monty wasn't feeling so good. He went in for a check up. He said it would be a few hours, but as I dropped him off and drove away, I got a horrible feeling. I turned the car around and headed back the doctor. He called me just a few minutes later and told me he had lung cancer. I said I knew that something wasn't right and that I was already there! The words you never want to hear! And the thought of telling our daughter! Over that week we decided to have a wedding with just our immediate family, so that we could be sure that Monty would be able to walk Brooke down the aisle. It is something every little girl and every father dreams of! I was going to make sure that happened!

The day Brooke was trying on dresses we found out that the cancer was also in his brain and spine! Brooke wanted to continue with looking for a dress. It was the best thing for us to do. One of the most important things I needed to remember was yes, Monty was sick, but our girl was getting married! And if Montys going to get well, we must be positive! We were and are very positive and hopeful that Monty will be here a long time. Sometimes yes, it is scary and hard, but we are very supportive of Monty and each other through this time!

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Notnowimbusy, thanks for posting this.  Was this from Kim's blog at Bravo?  The reason I ask is because I couldn't find the blogs from this season anywhere.  I finally decided that Bravo must have done away with them.  One day, some time later, I went back to Bravo just for the heck of it, and lo and behold, there they were in plain sight.  Whether it was me or Bravo, I don't know, but I always liked reading them and never saw this one.  This all ties in with posts about Kim or Monty along the way here on this board that I didn't understand.  No wonder I've been lost!

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Here is a link to his IG account and a photo of himself that Monty posted a week ago. Although he is a bit scruffy, his color is good, and he is not as thin as a few months ago.  https://instagram.com/p/7JaG5kwfHP/?taken-by=montybrinson

 

Also, in his last post, to Camille of all people, he speaks once again of his "lung cancer", no mention of it spreading let alone to his brain, and says that he started a very new treatment for "LUNG cancer" and that it seems to be working.

So is Monty wearing a wig or hairpiece?  Sometimes I can be quite shallow. 

Notnowimbusy, thanks for posting this.  Was this from Kim's blog at Bravo?  The reason I ask is because I couldn't find the blogs from this season anywhere.  I finally decided that Bravo must have done away with them.  One day, some time later, I went back to Bravo just for the heck of it, and lo and behold, there they were in plain sight.  Whether it was me or Bravo, I don't know, but I always liked reading them and never saw this one.  This all ties in with posts about Kim or Monty along the way here on this board that I didn't understand.  No wonder I've been lost!

Yes it's from the Bravo site.  It was Dec. 2014.  I think she did one blog after that then stopped.

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I dont want to sound ugly but Kim's death is coming.

Her children. Her sisters. Losing her high paying job. Going to several rehabs and even 5150 hasn't made her to wake up to reality that her life needs to change. She will never nor care to be sober at this stage of her addiction.

It's unfortunate but I won't be shocked in reading that she lost her life to addiction sometime this year or early next year.

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This is the date that I remember as Kim's court date, but it could have been changed without my noticing. 

 

That picture of Kim was pathetic.  Out at night, going from store to store, looking for Xanax.  I would think that she would become so sick and tired of her life being the way it is that she'd almost gladly get off the pills rather than live another day like that.  Where is she getting the money for her indulgences? 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  

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Kim in court today.  She will do Community LABOR, not Community Service.  Which means we could spot Kim picking up garbage along the highway or cleaning up graffiti.  Judge didn't buy her sore foot excuse.  

http://www.tmz.com/2015/09/14/kim-richards-community-service-labor-plea-bargain-beverly-hills-hotel/

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They need to take her to a mortuary so she can let them know what type of coffin she wants, what she wants to be buried in it will make it easier for the family in the long run.

She should also be told that if they don't find her body for a few days she will be decomposing and be green, bloated, maggot infested with skin slippage so more than likely it will be a closed coffin.

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So I finally read the House of Hilton and I am now convinced Monty and Kim are grifters together. I think they had a plan for her to hook up and leave him for Gregg Davis(she had dated his brother prior to Monty). Monty was just too "okay" with it all. Plus she had a baby at home and was off gallivanting? I get that new moms need a break but damn she was out dating and it sounds like he was too. The way the Hilton's doted on him after just reeks of scam. This is all conspiracy and connecting dots on my part but it was all just too easy.

Also the whole god damn house was paid for by the sale of big Kathy's old bev hills god damn house that was paid for by one of the girls ex middle eastern boyfriend. If the timelines are to be believed, it was probably Kyle's ex. She then moved her new husband into the palm springs gd house, talked her husband into selling his house using all of the money to renovate and leaving him out of her will, giving the gd house to all three girls. Classy woman. In the book kimberleys dad says that Kim is just like big Kathy but worse. Yikes.

In regards to Kim's deal, how does that work with the target arrest? I assume if she is found guilty it will affect her probation but what about a plea there as well?

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In regards to Kim's deal, how does that work with the target arrest? I assume if she is found guilty it will affect her probation but what about a plea there as well?

That's a good question. It's her second offense, so I would think that would make it harder for her to skate. Plus, we never found out if she was high when arrested, which might also affect her punishment or sentence. There was supposed to be a hearing last Friday, but there was no news.

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In thinking about what few details we have about Kim's sentence, I'm wondering what part of the sentence bothers her the most.  I would think that the community service of labor would rile her, but there's another aspect that I think would hurt her to the core.  Being ordered to stay at least 100 yards away from the BH Hotel would sting.  That place is like a second home to Kim and has all sorts of sentimental connections to her mother.  Many of her former party times and evenings with her mother are tied up in her memories like boxes of old love letters wrapped in ribbons, and now she's banned from setting foot on their property.  This is by no means a "poor Kim" post, but rather one dealing with the psychological side of things (which I love delving into)! 

 

And just think:  This is only one of several court cases Kim will have to answer to.  Her head must be spinning.  Where's the Xanax???

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In thinking about what few details we have about Kim's sentence, I'm wondering what part of the sentence bothers her the most.  I would think that the community service of labor would rile her, but there's another aspect that I think would hurt her to the core.  Being ordered to stay at least 100 yards away from the BH Hotel would sting.  That place is like a second home to Kim and has all sorts of sentimental connections to her mother.  Many of her former party times and evenings with her mother are tied up in her memories like boxes of old love letters wrapped in ribbons, and now she's banned from setting foot on their property.  This is by no means a "poor Kim" post, but rather one dealing with the psychological side of things (which I love delving into)! 

 

And just think:  This is only one of several court cases Kim will have to answer to.  Her head must be spinning.  Where's the Xanax???

Imo, Kim is going to be doing a tailspin into a place she will never be able to escape from.

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I can see Kim and Monty in on the long con to take from Gregg Davis. She's clearly a narcissist, but I think she must be a psychopath too. To see what she, or she and her mother and sisters once had, and to see where she is now- it must make her head spin. It wasn't supposed to be like this! What happened to the money and the houses? Who can she blame, because it can't be her fault.

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They need to take her to a mortuary so she can let them know what type of coffin she wants, what she wants to be buried in it will make it easier for the family in the long run.She should also be told that if they don't find her body for a few days she will be decomposing and be green, bloated, maggot infested with skin slippage so more than likely it will be a closed coffin.

Well, unless a person passes outside, there is no maggot infestation. After a day or two, inside, there is a bit of bloat and discoloration. Some foaming fluids, too. There can still be an open casket. Even after an autopsy, they can work magic with makeup. Or just get cremated.

I've said this many times, and some disagree but, I think Kim is living in her mind of what she thinks is real. It's not actual reality but her version of it. A person with no addicted brain can see the options. The addicted brain doesn't see anything that needs to be changed. It's her normal and she can't understand why anyone would tell her to change. In her mind, she's doing just fine and it's ridiculous to suggest otherwise.

It's really sad to see, IMO.

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Monty's got too much hair, and is bragging about it, to have been undergoing regular chemo treatments. In my own personal experience with people I know who have had lung cancer. But he sure has a steady supply of pain killers, doesn't he? Until Kim has to go wandering the streets looking for Xanax. You need a prescription for that, Kim, you cannot buy it over the counter at CVS.

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Monty's got too much hair, and is bragging about it, to have been undergoing regular chemo treatments. In my own personal experience with people I know who have had lung cancer.

 

This sounds like something Briana or Meghan on RHoOC would say.  Not everyone on chemo loses their hair.  This trend of questioning cancer patients' treatments, and even their disease, is quite disturbing, and frankly, offensive, to me personally.

 

Think I'll stick to snarking on his hashtags.

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