The GCEh?C: Canadian Episodes (Spoilers for Non-Canadians)

[msblossom]

Cricket was a lawyer and she was soooo smart Victor made her the lawyer for NE and the family.  I seem to recall she kind of went from Cricket to Christine all grown up dressed in top notch business suits and am I remembering them in the Colonnade Room?  Yes it was gross!

I've watched this soap since I was in Junior High, in the 80's, but have gone months (and sometimes years) at a time without watching -- and this storyline was news to me. I'm glad it never really went anywhere with them. That's as bad as he and Sharon getting together. Thanks for posting it, Foghorn Leghorn.

[Foghorn Leghorn]

Ok so Abby takes a vial of the the "love potion" and next thing she is leaving a "note" on Lily's desk I think then the Phyllis/Kelly room thing happened.  I guess that is how Kelly got her hands on that vial and what part does Abby play in this if any?

[peacheslatour]

 

I'm still very sad about Shoe.  I really wanted a chance to put Sharon with someone outside the Newman circle, and he is so epic looking, they would have made a gorgeous pair.  Still, it is what it is, and I'll take either one.

See this is why they would be so smart to put her with Joe.  Don't they realize how much they would ruin Sharon to have another Newman go-round?  Oh shit what do they care.  JFP doesn't care about the viewers, as long as she can prop up her favorite ceiling joist, then we should just STFU. 

 

/God, I'm in a pissy mood today.

[C76]

Foghorn Leghorn, I forgot to thank you for your take on Cricket and Victor's history. Sorry. I don't always read the board very thoroughly.  

 

It occurred to me that I ought to come in and complain about the Scooby Gang. Every time they appeared I actually said,"I hate them. They are so stupid!!" Those kids got on my last nerve today. How hard is it to understand that the more you lie, the worse it'll be once people find out the truth?

 

But to think that Austin has been found and is a-ok...I wonder what the fallout will be. 

 

A part of me thinks that someone is messing with them.

Edited February 24, 2015 by C76

[miamama]

So in the previews Victor arrives at the ranch all by himself. lol. TGVN, aged 73 or 75 or whatever he is, with a transplanted heart, finds Nicki, Phyllis and Jack in the collapsed building, saves Jack's life, gets twice buried under rubble yet walks home to his rural ranch on his own power (I don't know about the last part; he may have been rescued and given a ride but I doubt it). Jack, who is considerably younger with a healthy heart, gets crushed, his heart stops, is gasping and weak and needs to be carried out on a stretcher.

 

That is some funny shit.

 

I'm not a huge believer in EB dictating story but the physical prowess part I absolutely believe. I think he has it written in stone that he is NeverWeakLikeaWomanOrJaggaabbot. He has now saved Jack from a collapsed building TWO TIMES.

 

Bwahahaha at Kelly overhearing what Jack thinks of her. Freak. Go away now. She was so irritating I thought Ashley was going to punch her today. Or maybe that was me projecting.

[bannana]

Ohhh, so we do care about the dead extras--never before mentioned until we found dead Derek the bartender.   Nick said he didn't deserve to die like this.  Funny, does anyone?

 

I also liked how today for the first time, Nick sort of acknowledged that it was his building that collapsed and he is responsible--really, Nick, I thought it was all going to be Austin's fault?  Oh, and once again, the hard-hatted rescue personnel let hard hatless Nick scramble around in the ruins of the second collapse!  Good thing, cause Hard Hat would never have found Jack a few feet away from dead Derek, if Nick hadn't been there.

 

So Austin isn't dead, two scenarios then:  he wakes up and instead of going into the cozy cabin, he wanders off.  Or, someone finds him, and instead of knocking on the cozy cabin's door, takes him away.  Hmm....

 

So Jack doesn't remember boinking Kelly, and I don't think Hex is going to be the culprit but maybe Kelly scored the stuff Fen used at the cabin?  And used it on Jack?  Either that or we are back to the doppelganger.  Maybe that is why Pricktor didn't let anyone know he was fine, he was checking on his FrankenJack?

 

And, yes, Kelly Crazy Eyes is here to stay!  And Drinki is chugging the vodka in front of the kids!  (Where was the her purse flack, when she needs it most!)

[crosby777]

 I actually laffed out loud at todays show a few times.. Altho I do wish Dullan had been killed off. SB is so bad.. and when Dullan called Nikki MOM it was so bizarre and weird... Nikki taking a big swig was fabulous tho dahlinks..

[PatsyandEddie]

So in the previews Victor arrives at the ranch all by himself. lol. TGVN, aged 73 or 75 or whatever he is, with a transplanted heart, finds Nicki, Phyllis and Jack in the collapsed building, saves Jack's life, gets twice buried under rubble yet walks home to his rural ranch on his own power (I don't know about the last part; he may have been rescued and given a ride but I doubt it). Jack, who is considerably younger with a healthy heart, gets crushed, his heart stops, is gasping and weak and needs to be carried out on a stretcher..........

 

........ I think he has it written in stone that he is NeverWeakLikeaWomanOrJaggaabbot. He has now saved Jack from a collapsed building TWO TIMES.

 

 

It's as incredible as Phyllis Phrankenstomping her way home to Wisconsin from Georgia after being in a coma for a year. I'm not a fan of the writers beating me over the head like this to make me believe that certain characters are so strong that they can perform these  Pheats because they are so superior to the others. GMAFB!

Edited February 24, 2015 by PatsyandEddie

[klopek]

And Drinki is chugging the vodka in front of the kids!

 

Ugh... and you just know those boring spoil-sports are gonna nag her incessantly to stop drinking.  Party-poopers.

[miamama]

So Jack doesn't remember boinking Kelly, and I don't think Hex is going to be the culprit but maybe Kelly scored the stuff Fen used at the cabin?  And used it on Jack?  Either that or we are back to the doppelganger.  Maybe that is why Pricktor didn't let anyone know he was fine, he was checking on his FrankenJack?

 

Well, bannana, I've gone from thinking he's Hex-ed, to Doppelgänger to DID. The Doppelgänger would have had to be perfectly timed (Victor didn't necessarily know Jack was leaving the club) and wearing the same colour suit as Jack (and he was), plus if he went to that trouble (i.e. same suit), why not wear the tie?

 

And Victor didn't seem concerned that this was FrankenJack under the rubble (if he had brought in a double, how would he know the guy under the rubble wasn't FrankenJack)? An almost dead FrankenJack could have outed Victor in his dying breaths in front of Phyllis and Nikki.

 

I think Jackie's lost it (and who can blame him?) and splintered off to bring us old-school cold-hearted, horny Jack. I love Jack but I would LOVE to see them play a guy nuts -- especially when it appeared we were going the old route of two women fight for man, one or both goes completely bonkers (though I still think Kelly is bonkers). Interesting today when after Jack called Kelly "disturbed" and Phyllis said "is she crazy like me?" Jack admitted we throw that word around too much. Sounds like the writers might be aware of how offensive (and sexist) their depiction of mental illness has been.

 

Not with respect to Sharon of course. She is crazy enough to do stupid things but not crazy enough to be absolved of responsibility. <eye roll>

[NinjaPenguins]

Mariah is my new hero, you guys. Of course Summer is a narcissist; that particular personality disorder comes pre-baked in the Newman bloodline. Victoria needs two men fawning over her princess posterior 24/7, Nick believes his rod should always have friendly waters to fish in, and Victor's ego miraculously keeps expanding despite being large enough to form its own black hole that swallows all the light and joy in the universe.

Why wouldn't Noah want grandpa's advice? If anyone knows how to dish out destructive, self-serving lies without batting an eyelash, it's Victor. Way to embrace your inner Newman douche, Noah.

Poor Ashley. Fending off Kelly is like fending off a hungry bear with a rubber chicken. Also NuBilly's acting was so damn lackluster that she had zilch to work with. Newsflash, Kelly! Demeaning yourself with a man in a puddle of murky mop water does NOT give you a golden ticket to every aspect of his life. Please let Jack have a doppelganger; I cannot endure the thought of Real Jack rutting with Kelly like a demented yak.

I have nothing snarky to say about Chelsea and Adam. I hate them. I'd rather watch grass grow.

When Austin shows up, I hope he's changed into his I'm With Stupid t-shirt. Whether he's being interrogated by Chief NumbNuts or reuniting with his delicate flower, it's a fashion choice that can't go wrong.

Edited February 24, 2015 by NinjaPenguins

[C76]

So Jack doesn't remember boinking Kelly, and I don't think Hex is going to be the culprit but maybe Kelly scored the stuff Fen used at the cabin?  And used it on Jack?  Either that or we are back to the doppelganger.  Maybe that is why Pricktor didn't let anyone know he was fine, he was checking on his FrankenJack?

 

And, yes, Kelly Crazy Eyes is here to stay!  And Drinki is chugging the vodka in front of the kids!  (Where was the her purse flack, when she needs it most!)

 

I was trying to describe the look on Kelly's face to someone yesterday. It was as though you could see a set of springs popping in her head. She's gone off the rails for sure. I can't wait for today's show!

Edited February 24, 2015 by C76

[movinon]

 

Victor's ego miraculously keeps expanding despite being large enough to form its own black hole that swallows all the light and joy in the universe..........If anyone knows how to dish out destructive, self-serving lies without batting an eyelash, it's Victor.

Ninja, I love it when you bash Victor - it never gets old.  The rest of the post is great, too.

Edited February 25, 2015 by movinon

[Capricasix]

Jesus H. Christ. Paul is the worst cop ever. "Oh, we found Austin!" DERP

And suddenly both Chelsea and Nikki have had a chance to change their clothes? Where would Chelsea get clean clothes? I can't imagine that they would be letting people back into the apartment building...

[bannana]

Jesus H. Christ. Paul is the worst cop ever. "Oh, we found Austin!" DERP

And suddenly both Chelsea and Nikki have had a chance to change their clothes? Where would Chelsea get clean clothes? I can't imagine that they would be letting people back into the apartment building...

Yes, how mean of Chief Williams!  So Austin is probably truly really in fact dead.  Kyle is alive, but was found in the wilderness, cause I guess he couldn't fine the Abbott cabin or his car broke down?  I only caught bits and pieces today.

 

I really wanted Drinki to tell Victoria to fuck off, and tell her she is going to drink from now on and they need to just get used to it!  Instead she was pathetic and grovelling.

 

Kelly is really messed up at Jack not remembering fucking her, so I guess he wasn't drugged by her, and maybe he does have DID as miamama speculates.

 

I cannot believe I am saying this but I find Adam boring.  This makes me sad.

 

Gotta love those hijinks with Jack and Pricktor in the same hospital room!

[politichick]

Please, Dear God, NO DID!!!! Let's just hope it was Victor who drugged him. He has a plan, remember? If they introduce that to this soap I am done.

[Slowpokey]

Mariah is my new hero, you guys. Of course Summer is a narcissist; that particular personality disorder comes pre-baked in the Newman bloodline. Victoria needs two men fawning over her princess posterior 24/7, Nick believes his rod should always have friendly waters to fish in, and Victor's ego miraculously keeps expanding despite being large enough to form its own black hole that swallows all the light and joy in the universe.

Why wouldn't Noah want grandpa's advice? If anyone knows how to dish out destructive, self-serving lies without batting an eyelash, it's Victor. Way to embrace your inner Newman douche, Noah.

Poor Ashley. Fending off Kelly is like fending off a hungry bear with a rubber chicken. Also NuBilly's acting was so damn lackluster that she had zilch to work with. Newsflash, Kelly! Demeaning yourself with a man in a puddle of murky mop water does NOT give you a golden ticket to every aspect of his life. Please let Jack have a doppelganger; I cannot endure the thought of Real Jack rutting with Kelly like a demented yak.

I have nothing snarky to say about Chelsea and Adam. I hate them. I'd rather watch grass grow.

When Austin shows up, I hope he's changed into his I'm With Stupid t-shirt. Whether he's being interrogated by Chief NumbNuts or reuniting with his delicate flower, it's a fashion choice that can't go wrong.

LMAO here! Freaking Hilarious!!!

[Slowpokey]

movinon and ParadoxLost, thanks for the recap of the romance that never was. I shudder at the thought of Victor being connected to every woman in town.

 

Today we had another hot ending--Nikki was drinking, and unashamed. Long live Drinki!!

 

And as Nikki's children looked on in horror, a disheveled Victor appeared at the house and asked her to pour one for him. 

 

But the killer happened shortly before that. I've got to hand it to the woman who plays Kelly. She can make CrazyFace like no other!!  

 

I won't even get into why she went over the edge. Forget Hex--I'm convinced that she drugged Jack.

Love it! That's the fine upstanding Newman family that caused Dickweed  to snatch his daughter out of her mother's arms. He wants these dysfunctional idiots to help him raise his little daughter. She will be so much safer and better looked after with them than with her own broken hearted mother. Add in Auntie Abby shagging her niece's hubby behind her back and acting all holier than thou while bashing the hell out of Sharon calling her trashy names for things she did in the middle of a mental breakdown! What a filthy bunch of shit faced hypocrites! Such wonderful role models for little Faith.

[pearlite]

Mmmm...hard to know what to say about today's CDN. Every other episode kinda stinks.

 

Repentance is so wrong, where Nikki's concerned, and while I'm at it, who cares about Gadam and Sage?

 

The Odd Couple--duly noted. Then maybe at the end, an homage to a Tarantino trunk-shot in the making? Could someone have given Summer a bit of a shove? Or if we're lucky, the opening of Goodfellas, only who here "always wanted to be a gangster"? Wrong show--that would be the other one playing on the eternal loop in hell--thanks, Ninja Penguins.

[C76]

All I'm waiting for is Kelly's next move. And I want an explanation concerning Jack's time in the broom closet (or wherever it was) with Kelly. I love this thread to pieces, but I'm even getting tired of my own speculation.

 

For all we know he could have a plan to get Blondie to reveal herself. 

 

Man. There I go again.

 

Your move, show. I want an answer. Preferably by the end of the week.

[miamama]

Please, Dear God, NO DID!!!! Let's just hope it was Victor who drugged him. He has a plan, remember? If they introduce that to this soap I am done.

It's looking more and more likely to me. Jack commented wistfully today how Fairview has been so horrible for Sharon and Patty and Ashley....hmmm. Poor Crazy People.

 

Kelly is really messed up at Jack not remembering fucking her, so I guess he wasn't drugged by her, and maybe he does have DID as miamama speculates.

 

Yup. She clearly wasn't in on it if he was drugged or Hexed. 

 

I'm no fan of it either but it's better than a doppelgänger. And it isn't the tried and true misogynistic route of making it Kelly who has it. Though I agree with Ninja that I'd prefer Jack not have had that gross sex with skeevy Kelly.

 

I thought Adam was a bit cute today. Funny and light. I'm a bit of a sucker for that cutie pie JH though. ;)

 

nuKyle was a bit blah. But then he had a scene with Summer. So not much to go with there. 

Edited February 25, 2015 by miamama

[bannana]

I love JH too!  I think he is a great recast, so it's the people around him who must be dragging him down.

[NinjaPenguins]

Nick can stop joking about his bartender-killing, constructed-out-of-toothpicks deathtrap anytime now. He should be lining up some damn good lawyers (not Avery), not launching a one man panty raid on Sage. His carefree flirtations in the face of his own lethal incompetence and negligence were awful, even for him.

Yes, Adam, Victor Newman is immortal, preserved forever by the embalming fluid-like malice coursing through his veins. Attempts to mount him on a plaque like one of those singing fish have resulted in a number of casualities, the bodies of the would-be taxidermists reeking of sulphur and 666 burned into their backsides. I will say this, Victor does come alive around his beloved Jagabbott.

I am confused by this concept of "making love" about which Kelly will not stop talking. It is, apparently, akin to what a person might see in a particularly prurient back alley canine porno? Or is it more graceful, like Nick ravishing a tangerine with his feet? My cursory readings of terrible romance novels as a teen never featured a scene of the heroine being used as a squealing beer sponge.

Watching Chelsea and Gabe is like being whipped with a wet noodle, only far less erotic. What a thrilling cycle; Billy, in his typical uncouth manner, wisely points out what a creeper Bingo is, and Chelsea, a deeply disturbed woman who is enchanted by rape victims and stalkers, defends the smarmy smirker. Meanwhile Gabriel blathers to anyone and everyone about his fake marriage inheritance scam, because it will be so romantic when he invites Chelsea to eat park hot dogs in his cardboard condo after he loses all that cash. Smart.

Please let Neil's silver briefcase containing Creamy Nude and a blonde wig be in Kyle's trunk. Best prop cameo evah!

[klopek]

Please let Neil's silver briefcase containing Creamy Nude and a blonde wig be in Kyle's trunk.

 

I'm pinning my hope on them find better scripts in the trunk.

[Capricasix]

Bit early in the game, admittedly, but I did think nunuKyle bore more of a resemblance to Jack than FrankenKyle did.

[PatsyandEddie]

IA Caprica. I was quite surprised at the resemblance. Now if he only can act.....

[EngradyPind]

Is Jack playing Kelly to drive her crazy like he thinks she has been doing to Phyllis? 

 

Except for Kelly's junior high age hairdo, I prefer her to Phyllis for Jack.  I am finding post-coma Phyllis just too ludicrous to invest in. She and that emotional twit of a daughter need a major timeout with some psycho therapy thrown in.

[Slowpokey]

I love JH too!  I think he is a great recast, so it's the people around him who must be dragging him down.

Yes JH is totally awesome to me and acting his heart out. One thing they need to do is get him away from Sage! UGH! She is just sucking the life out of him. Team her with Dickweed! We can then fast forward all of their boring scenes! Get him away from Chelsea and Billy too. Gabadam is really doing a great job but the people he has to interact with are pulling him down. He was way more interesting the few moments he was talking to Sharon than months of hanging with all the other characters.I like him with Jack and Victor but the others are just fail!

[Slowpokey]

Is Jack playing Kelly to drive her crazy like he thinks she has been doing to Phyllis? 

 

Except for Kelly's junior high age hairdo, I prefer her to Phyllis for Jack.  I am finding post-coma Phyllis just too ludicrous to invest in. She and that emotional twit of a daughter need a major timeout with some psycho therapy thrown in.

I wish she could get a different hair style but hair seems to be a problem with this soap.lol

[politichick]

I wish she could get a different hair style but hair seems to be a problem with this soap.lol

What exactly is the deal with Kelly's hair, anyway? It looks like a wig and is horrible. When she was Dixie on AMC she had for a while a really chic pixie cut. This mess on her head looks flammable!

[valleycliffe]

I think when she got the pixie cut it was because she appeared on broadway in les miserable.

I think she played fantine the character who cut her hair off.

Edited February 25, 2015 by valleycliffe

[dbklmt]

I think when she got the pixie cut it was because she appeared on broadway in les miserable.

I think she played fantine the character who cut her hair off.

Is this a joke that I'm missing the punchline?  Cady McClain has NEVER been in "Les Miserables".

[valleycliffe]

Is this a joke that I'm missing the punchline?  Cady McClain has NEVER been in "Les Miserables".

she was in les miserable on BROADWAY.

 

she has a fantastic singing voice.

 

if you don't believe me, google it.

[C76]

Well today, I got my wish. Jack basically admitted that he slept with Kelly. Victor confronted him about it in their hospital room and he shot back something about how what he does in his private life is his business. 

 

At this point, all I need is confirmation of why he did it. Has Jack known all along that Kelly's unstable? 

 

Meanwhile, something is definitely up on Victor's end. First, he suggested that he and Jack become frenemies. Then, he went to visit a friend in a priest's booth* at a church. I think he said something about his "plan" working.

 

The dialogue these days continues to improve. Neil burned Hilary a few times today while Devon was at her side, but ultimately, she got him. Remember her old revenge plot from a year or so ago? Apparently, seducing someone's son is the ultimate way to screw him over. 

 

I liked this twist. I didn't see it coming at all.

 

(For what it's worth, Devon overheard her revealing the truth.) 

 

Other happenings?

 

Lily continued to be angry at Cane for lying, but Jill talked some sense into her. Thankfully, though, he grew a pair and decided that Lily can keep her whiny nonsense to herself. He had a mini-rant while he was at the club talking to Colin. It was glorious.

 

As annoyed as I am at some of the characters, I like the fact that TPTB are starting to be unafraid of surprising their viewers. 

 

*Sorry. I'm not Catholic. I'm sure I could Google the proper term, but that's the first thing that came to my head.

Edited February 25, 2015 by C76

[peacheslatour]

^ I'm not Catholic either, but I think it's called a Confessional.

[bannana]

Well today, I got my wish. Jack basically admitted that he slept with Kelly. Victor confronted him about it in their hospital room and he shot back something about how what he does in his private life is his business. 

 

Meanwhile, something is definitely up on Victor's end. First, he suggested that he and Jack become frenemies. Then, he went to visit a friend in a priest's booth* at a church. I think he said something about his "plan" working.

 

The dialogue these days continues to improve. Neil burned Hilary a few times today while Devon was at her side, but ultimately, she got him. Remember her old revenge plot from a year or so ago? Apparently, seducing someone's son is the ultimate way to screw him over. 

 

I liked this twist. I didn't see it coming at all.

 

Lily continued to be angry at Cane for lying. Thankfully, he grew a pair and decided that she can keep her whiny self. He had a mini-rant while he was at the club talking to Colin. 

 

As annoyed as I am at some of the characters, I like the fact that TPTB are starting to be unafraid of surprising their viewers. 

 

*Sorry. I'm not Catholic. I'm sure I could Google the proper term, but that's the first thing that came to my head.

I liked this twist and frankly have been hoping that Lily was right all along.  Having said that, I have a bad feeling this is Hilary being a martyr so that Devon will dump her and he can reconcile with Neil.  It's not terribly logical, if that were the case, she should have just not continued the affair.  But one thing about this does make sense, that she married Neil when Devon was already hot for her.

 

OTOH, this would have made more sense if she married the billionaire, and took him for his money.  Sigh.

 

I too think that Jack knows he slept with Kelly and as someone has suggested, that he is gaslighting her!

 

Abby and Kyle are related, right?  Why was she being such a bitch toward him?

 

Yes, after Pricktor told Jack they should essentially call a truce (right?!), Pricktor went to the chapel confessional (must be a Catholic hospital) to talk to his co-conspirator.  Kelly?  Kyle?

[peacheslatour]

she was in les miserable on BROADWAY.

 

she has a fantastic singing voice.

 

if you don't believe me, google it.

O.k I googled it.  Nowhere on her wiki page or any where else I looked mentions her ever having done Les Miz.  She has done quite a bit of theatre, but not Les Miz.

[C76]

^ I'm not Catholic either, but I think it's called a Confessional.

Thank you!

 

After I posted, I thought,"You are such a lazy moron." As I Googled, I asked myself,"Was that really so hard?" When something's on the tip of your tongue but won't come out right, a search engine can save you from humiliation! 

 

bannana, a part of me hopes you're wrong about Hilary. I like her return to The Land of Villainy.

Edited February 25, 2015 by C76

[Diane M]

Well today, I got my wish. Jack basically admitted that he slept with Kelly. Victor confronted him about it in their hospital room and he shot back something about how what he does in his private life is his business.

 

I don't consider that a confession.  I really think that Victor gave that sex potion to Kelly to spray on herself, and it had a very intense affect on Jack.  Probably a bit dangerous to put on the market.

[miamama]

Well today, I got my wish. Jack basically admitted that he slept with Kelly. Victor confronted him about it in their hospital room and he shot back something about how what he does in his private life is his business.

At this point, all I need is confirmation of why he did it. Has Jack known all along that Kelly's unstable?

Meanwhile, something is definitely up on Victor's end. First, he suggested that he and Jack become frenemies. Then, he went to visit a friend in a priest's booth* at a church. I think he said something about his "plan" working.

 

I didn't see that at all. Jack confessed nothing. He just didn't feel like discussing his sex life with Victor. Fair enough for me. If he's lying and was able to convincingly lie to his sister, his fiancée and crazy Kelly herself, he could easily lie to Victor. I think they are throwing in moments like this to keep us guessing as to what's up with Jack.

 

Victor's meeting (and interest in Jack's sex life) plus this "frenemies" thing is far more telling. I think he was talking to a doppelgänger. I know I know I was saying DID, but him saying "Our plan is working. Jack doesn't suspect a thing" makes it clear Victor is pulling strings. Hex or Doppelgänger. 

 

Oh I would weep with joy if Hilary really really is the mean bitch and played that little cue ball Darvon. I hope she isn't being noble or some such shit. Good twist, show!!

[C76]

I see what you're saying Diane M and miamama.

 

One of my reasons for my theory about Jack is his demeanour. His tone when he responded to Victor reminded me of the way he spoke to Ashley when she caught him in the hallway. There was no denying that what he did actually happened. Yet his attitude was odd.

 

At this point I think either a) something is genuinely wrong with Jack, or b) he has a plan to ruin Kelly.  

 

Or, he was drugged and too ashamed to admit it...And as you suggested, miamama, doesn't want to admit anything to Victor. After all, he was being awfully nosy and annoying.

[NinjaPenguins]

Like miamama, I didn't get the impression that Jack was confessing to anything, especially a bar bonk with Kelly.

So Victor went to church and it wasn't for an exorcism, eh? I suppose that would be some Vatican level demon purging anyways.

*polite golf clap* Well played, Hillary, well played indeed. Well, except for the part where you endured sleeping with Neil and Devon; that's just masochism.

[peacheslatour]

 

So Victor went to church and it wasn't for an exorcism, eh? I suppose that would be some Vatican level demon purging anyways.

I'm surprised he could even enter the Chapel, what with all the crosses.

[klopek]

I'm surprised he could even enter the Chapel, what with all the crosses.

 

You know his creeping oozing miasmic mist form is impervious to crosses.  Silly wabbit peaches

[peacheslatour]

You know his creeping oozing miasmic mist form is impervious to crosses.  Silly wabbit peaches

Of course!

 

*hops away in shame*

[miamama]

One of my reasons for my theory about Jack is his demeanour. His tone when he responded to Victor reminded me of the way he spoke to Ashley when she caught him in the hallway. There was no denying that what he did actually happened. Yet his attitude was odd.

 

Victor was playing with Jack's head. He told him he was mumbling Kelly's name in his sleep. I could see Jack being a bit defensive and thrown by that (although initially he didn't buy it.) Victor's totally up to something with Kelly. At the end, Jack deleted Kelly's contact from his phone, which tells me he's just done with her. He was always willing to be decent to her but if he thinks she's making this sex thing up he would be totally finished with her. Whatever is going on (and I really don't know), Jack isn't lying IMO. Victor wanting to be nice with Jack is weird too. I can see Jack kind of going for it. Victor saved his life and was all sweet with him in the collapse. Jack will have his guard down.

 

Victor's working something big. I'll give it to Pratt. The show is surprising me. The Jack and Victor thing has a new energy to it. I'm sure the actors appreciate it. And I'm enjoying it.

 

Hilary is awesome. Just awesome. Interesting that Mishael Morgan has talked about much preferring to play a character with edge. I hope the show's giving her that back. 

 

The cabin kids are stupid but mostly because of Summer. I like Mariah very much and Kevin does excellent faces. NuKyle is a cutie. He is hiding his Australian accent very well. Looks very much like he could be Jack's kid. 

 

Lily, Cane and their marital angst are FF material. 

[klopek]

Co-signing your post in it's entirety miamama.  Today's epi was a goodun'.

 

Hilary is awesome. Just awesome. Interesting that Mishael Morgan has talked about much preferring to play a character with edge. I hope the show's giving her that back.

 

She was good!  Yes, please show, do allow Hilary to come full circle to the diabolical livewire she was initially.  It doesn't bode well seeing cue ball Darvon earwigging at the door though  -  I don't want to see Neil and uncle Fester join forces to bring her down.  Hopefully, over their next bender Nikki will remind Neil that Hilary may have rigged the game and dealt the bent cards -  but Darvon double downed of his own volition.

[UsernameFatigue]

I got a totally different read on Hillary's conversation with Neil. I think she really did end up caring for both Neil and Devon. I think that when Devon was talking about leaving town with her and that Lilly would not likely allow him to ever see the twins again, or Neil let him see Moses she realized that Devon would be giving up his entire family for her. And that the only way the family would reconcile would be for her to leave. If destroying the family was her intent all along she would have married Devon, not Neil and accomplished the same thing since Devon was panting after her before she married Neil. The 'old' Hillary would never marry ordinary Neil if she could marry zillionaire Devon. I may be giving Hillary too much credit, but the way the storyline has played out it does not ring true to me that Hillary has done all of this as payback. In either case though, it is the writers' convenient way of getting rid of her and bringing the Winters clan together once again.

 

Do hospital chapels normally have confessionals? Even Catholic hospitals (which I have never thought GC Memorial was)?

Edited February 26, 2015 by UsernameFatigue

[PatsyandEddie]

To answer your question UsernameFatigue, no. I worked in one for 15 years and ours was quite small without a confessional. Priests will sit to hear one anywhere and the formal confessional is still used but in the church setting. MMV but that was a RMFE scene for me.

[ByTor]

Meanwhile, something is definitely up on Victor's end. First, he suggested that he and Jack become frenemies. Then, he went to visit a friend in a priest's booth* at a church. I think he said something about his "plan" working.

I AM Catholic, I thought "booth" was funny...and it DOES describe what it looks like :)