Mayans MC - General Discussion

[Dowel Jones]

I took the ex's comment about Kat to infer that they had a relationship, and she was telling Bishop "We're done forever, don't follow us to Albuquerque, because I'm not coming back, no way, no how."

I must be in the minority because I thought the scene with Emily was cringeworthy funny.  "Oh, EZ, I know I dumped you for a rich guy because I'm shallow, but I really wanted to tell you how much I care for you and.....what?  You actually have the nerve to move on and get a girlfriend?"

I'm not a medical professional (used to be an EMT, though), and the loss of an actual gallon of blood would have likely killed EZ long before the hospital.  The human body holds about 1.2 gallons of blood.  Secondly, that much loss implies much more than a through and through gunshot wound.  Something important got hit, so he would first be in an OR, and then the ICU for awhile, I would think.  I took it as a rhetorical statement, as the other biker would have no idea how much blood a human actually has.

On another note, I'm surprised the hospital let both groups of bikers mix it up in the hallways and the waiting rooms.  I would think they would have half the PD down there to escort them off the property.  Of course, I get that the confrontations were necessary for plot development.

[Cotypubby]

3 hours ago, Dowel Jones said:

On another note, I'm surprised the hospital let both groups of bikers mix it up in the hallways and the waiting rooms.  I would think they would have half the PD down there to escort them off the property.  Of course, I get that the confrontations were necessary for plot development.

Yeah, they were all just waving guns around everywhere. You’d think that would draw someone’s attention.

[CrystalBlue]

How is Coco getting away with spending days and nights at the Methhead Jamboree / Spahn Ranch 2.0?  You'd think he'd have gotten a phone call by now.  Maybe he has his on vibrate (like Alvarez had with Galindo) and is too stoned to feel or hear it?  Somethings gotta give and I want Coco to snap out of it NOW and not get in trouble or get killed.

Emily's rush to check up on EZ was hysterically funny in the cringiest way.  And perfect Gaby is not even jealous or cares what that was all about?  Okay then.

Galindo gets more disgusting every episode.  He's the biggest POS of all.

Not the best episode, but I love this show and can't wait for next week.

9 minutes ago, Cotypubby said:

Yeah, they were all just waving guns around everywhere. You’d think that would draw someone’s attention.

Is the black security guard on the Mayans' payroll?  He didn't seem to fussed by the boys' antics.

[MaggieG]

9 hours ago, Cotypubby said:

Yeah, they were all just waving guns around everywhere. You’d think that would draw someone’s attention.

And Angel smoking like a chimney. I laughed at Gilly and Creeper just running after Angel trying to hold him back.

 

9 hours ago, CrystalBlue said:

Is the black security guard on the Mayans' payroll?  He didn't seem to fussed by the boys' antics.

I think he's a cop. I do think he works with them somewhat but not sure how much he knows.

 

13 hours ago, Dowel Jones said:

I took the ex's comment about Kat to infer that they had a relationship, and she was telling Bishop "We're done forever, don't follow us to Albuquerque, because I'm not coming back, no way, no how."

I think Kat is her girlfriend/wife and they have a child together. We briefly saw Kat in a previous episode when Bishop went to the house and she walked by with a young child.

[tennisgurl]

3 hours ago, MaggieG said:

And Angel smoking like a chimney. I laughed at Gilly and Creeper just running after Angel trying to hold him back.

 

I love how someone told Angel to stop smoking, and then he pulled a gun and stomped off to confront the other bikers, because smoking is off limits but wandering around with a loaded gun is just a typical day at the hospital. I guess the cop they saw is on the payroll, and that's why the guys are allowed to practically get into a brawl? 

I know a lot is going on, but you would think someone would notice that Coco is gone for days at a time while he is hanging at methhead Coachella. In fact, with everything happening, you would think it would be all hands on deck and people would be trying to find him for when shit goes down. Meth Manson is so creepy, every time he's onscreen I desperately want to take a shower. 

Gabby is just so perfect and sweet, I feel like this can only end in sadness. She will probably end up as collateral damage to really drive up the angst factor, she's so perfect she seems like the already dead wife or girlfriend that died in the backstory who the hero is desperate to avenge in some other show. Their whole plot was on the dull side, but I did think their trip through the desert and into the church was very well shot, it felt very cinematic and they used the landscape wonderfully. 

Did we know this about Bishop and his son dying? He isn't really thinking straight right now, and he keeps pissing people off and burning bridges, but he isn't wrong about everything. Alvarez left the Mayan's, he cant just show up and tell Bishop how to run things, and they do need to do something about these attacks. 

Angel was already on edge after everything with Adelita, so his brother getting shot is really pushing him over the edge. Its impressive the other guys kept him from just kicking the crap out of the other guys right there, he spent the whole episode about three seconds from snapping. He's very emotional on even a good day, and this has not been a good day. 

The Emily scene was so awkward, oh Emily that was just embarrassing to witness. She could have done something to decrease the awkwardness, but instead she doubled down because she was apparently so shocked that EZ has moved on from her. 

[MaggieG]

I'm loving all the names for the meth camp. Methhead Jamboree/Spahn Ranch 2.0/methhead Coachella 😂

Kudos to all of you!

[CrystalBlue]

3 hours ago, MaggieG said:

I'm loving all the names for the meth camp. Methhead Jamboree/Spahn Ranch 2.0/methhead Coachella 😂

Kudos to all of you!

I was going to say the same thing!  (So I have.)  Also:  Meth Manson.  These should be TM (trademarked).

[magdalene]

Coco used to be actually one of my faves.  Being an addict must have made him stupid on top of everything else.  He has always been a ruthless guy - why doesn't he kill Meth Manson? He can take that asshole.

Let's face it, if Angel somehow survives to fifty - doubtful - he will be one of those people who gets his nicotine fix through a hole in his throat.

I am sure the show is setting Gaby up to be a cautionary tale - (nice girls shouldn't get involved with criminal bikers) but I certainly don't want EZ back with Emily.  She and slime ball hubby deserve each other.

[Dowel Jones]

After the incident on Coco's first visit to the camp, he probably realizes, even in his drug addled state, that killing MethManson would result in his own quick (or not) death at everyone else's hands.

[MCMLXXVII]

On 4/14/2021 at 11:52 PM, CrystalBlue said:

Is the black security guard on the Mayans' payroll?  He didn't seem to fussed by the boys' antics.

I think it’s the same guy who had been friends with EZ in high school and had become a cop. He had a few scenes in past seasons.

[isalicat]

Okay, just focus in on the scenes with Coco in this episode. I thought they were really well shot (tight focus on his face) and evocative of the excruciating tension between his desire to have a loving relationship with the girl that is supplying him with not only "anesthetic" but also sex vs. his girl's recitation of her past with her mother and her inquiries as to Coco's relationship with *his* mother.

I thought the actors were amazingly good, and the acting subtle and sublime - of the highest quality in the midst of the depiction of such suffering and squalor.

[TomandJerry]

Hello everyone, 

Here what I think what happened in the last 2 episode. When the Santo Padre Mayans delivered the drug into U.S.A, particularly delivered to the Mayans charter of Arizona.  Remember Bishop and his crew believed they delivered 250 keys of drug to Arizona charter. Other Mayans from Charming and Nevada stop at Arizona charter leader Ibarra . Which then I believed they count at 249 keys. (Remember Coco stole one for Meth Mountain). Word travel than so fast to all Mayans and Galindo that one key is missing.  This is where the other Mayans tried to kills EZ. It likely a civil Mayans war has started.  Also we know now why Marcus Alvarez had an argue with Bishop over the situation.  I don't want to spoils to everyone  in the next several episodes that everyone will figure it out that Coco stole it and Coco will pay the consequences. Most likely he will be killed of at the end of the season, but the wars and other conflict will rage on.....

If this already been discussed, than I am sorry that I posted now. 

Have a good evening everyone and enjoy the next episode of the Mayans.  

[mostlylurking]

Who is Hope and what was her previous relationship with Coco?  It seems obvious that they knew each other but do we know from where?  I’m drawing a blank. 

I think EZ will end up leaving Gabi for her safety, hence the story he told her of the saints. Gabi, you in danger girl. I know he’s cute and all (I’m more of an Angel fan myself) but no one is THAT cute. 

Edited April 20, 2021 by mostlylurking

[TrininisaScorp]

16 hours ago, mostlylurking said:

I think EZ will end up leaving Gabi for her safety, hence the story he told her of the saints. Gabi, you in danger girl. I know he’s cute and all (I’m more of an Angel fan myself) but no one is THAT cute. 

LOL. Where is the lie?!  I too am more of an Angel fan, but neither dude is worth the trouble they clearly bring.  Even if they are hot as ghost peppers and fire.  Whew.  I'm telling you Clayton Cardenas doesn't catch bad angles ever. 

Today was a bloody mess.  I will say I was cackling at the quiet of random bikers going about their day in and out of no where come our Santo Padre Mayans with bats to tear shit up.  It was a little Monty Python-esque/the Spanish Inquisition, even if brutal, and I appreciated the humor (not sure it was intentional, but it worked for me).  I figured the cop would end up selling out to the Mayans, so I wasn't worried about that piece, but the brutality of the Ramos kill was rough.  All the fighting was crazy.  Good lord...so much.  There was a great little beat where you see the guys run into Ramos's guys and Gilly yells something like "oh HELL yeah" before charging thru.  Go back and take a look...each of our Mayans gives something a little different and it was hilarious.  Angel's "oh ffs, of course" face was my favorite. 

So at this point, who do the Santo Padre Mayans have?  No Sons, no Stockton, no Northern Cali.  Again, this feels super short sighted.  Nice to get a little history about Bish.

As usual, I find my highlights in the quiet moments between action. I like Angel being silly with EZ after his big night.  "Say it ain't so, the draught is over?!"  "I believe in fratricide" "I don't even know what that means".  I liked EZ and Gabi on the phone like teenagers (even if that will end badly).  I like EZ and poor, fucked up Steve having a lovely chat. "Jung."  "Jeezy?"  Adelita with Minnie and her subsequent takedown of Pablo...man.  

Enjoyed the relationship juxtaposition of Ez with Angel talking about being all in since they are at war vs. EZ with Gaby and her family feeling a bit out of place or not worthy.  Gaby is way too perfect, but I'll take her over Emily any day.

Not having Galindo or Emily this episode was genuinely a delight.  They weren't there to drag the episode down.  Unfortunate, Galindo is def in the "next time" bumper.

Loved seeing Letty again because I really like her, but hated what Coco continues to put her through.  For a young girl, she has been through it all with Celia and now with Coco.  Of course, he ODs on their couch for this poor child to find him.  Cabral always does good work, but I like Coco interacting with Letty the most.

[SHD]

First time I’ve ever heard a Squeeze song used to soundtrack an execution style murder. Was not expecting THAT.

Adelita’s story holds no interest for me when it doesn’t involve Angel.

 

[CrazyDog]

11 hours ago, TrininisaScorp said:

 

Today was a bloody mess.  I will say I was cackling at the quiet of random bikers going about their day in and out of no where come our Santo Padre Mayans with bats to tear shit up.  It was a little Monty Python-esque/the Spanish Inquisition, even if brutal, and I appreciated the humor (not sure it was intentional, but it worked for me).  I figured the cop would end up selling out to the Mayans, so I wasn't worried about that piece, but the brutality of the Ramos kill was rough.  All the fighting was crazy.  Good lord...so much.  There was a great little beat where you see the guys run into Ramos's guys and Gilly yells something like "oh HELL yeah" before charging thru.  Go back and take a look...each of our Mayans gives something a little different and it was hilarious.  Angel's "oh ffs, of course" face was my favorite. 

That scene, well after all the violence had started, was pretty hilarious. He punched his chest, and just dove in, lol. I think Angel put his beer down too, but I might be imagining that. 

I'm glad Steve is OK. If anyone needs to get the hell out of Santo Padre, and get a nice job and family somewhere, it's him. 

Coco...I'm going to hope he isn't actually dead, but his odds of escaping this season are slim. Poor Letty, though that scene with her and Coco was so well-done. Imagine your (potentially) last words to your dad being telling him to OD, and then he goes and does it. She does not need that additional trauma.

Angel and EZ interacting are always a delight.

Adelita's story is kind of losing me. It's so separate now from the rest of the show, and I just find the whole story complex, but disturbing. I'm not even sure how to comment on it, so I'll just wait and see how her and her child army play out over the rest of the season.

Did not miss Galindo or Emily at all. I do kind of feel for Emily but her story pales compared to all that's going on around Santo Padre.

[toodywoody]

I knew Coco was going to OD. I felt sorry for him this season. I understand pain since I live with back pain daily because my back is 50 shades of messed up.  I guess having Coco OD is better than the club killing him. 

I don't give two shits about Adelita and her story. Just drop it already. 

Sure EZ is pretty, Angel is hot but I like Hank for some reason. But then again I loved Chibs the most on SOA. I'm always odd with who I like.

[mostlylurking]

I am so confused....I thought Gabi had crossed the border illegally and that’s how she ended up in that shithole Santo Padre and she was going to nursing school with Letty. Now we find out she has a mom and her whole family lives in Lodi. Did I dream all that other shit up?

I feel horrible for Coco but even more so for Letty. I hope she is able to somehow finish school and get the hell out of that dead end town. 

[Sir RaiderDuck OMS]

When those Oakland dudes were smoking their meth and saying "Oh, yeah. We're just waiting for word on Ramos, man." it was obvious they were about to double-cross Bishop.

The fight scenes were shot horribly. It was almost impossible to figure out who was attacking who or what was going on.

What was that Squeeze song playing right before Ramos took the dirt nap?

Amount I missed Galindo or Emily in this episode: Zero.

The Adelita sequences are almost from a different show now, and not one I'd care to watch. I'm here to watch a trashy biker melodrama, not ruminate on the inner angst of a female Che Guevara wannabe.

Why is no one in the club questioning why EVERYONE including Prospect Steve (who finally got a little character-building this ep) is at Defcon 1, but Coco has apparently fallen off the face of the Earth? He could legitimately be kicked out of the MC for this. And I gotta wonder if the smack his Methson Family girlfriend brought by was either poisoned or ultra-pure (meaning he could easily OD).

Edited April 22, 2021 by Sir RaiderDuck OMS

[SHD]

7 hours ago, Sir RaiderDuck OMS said:

The fight scenes were shot horribly. It was almost impossible to figure out who was attacking who or what was going on.

What was that Squeeze song playing right before Ramos took the dirt nap?

The Adelita sequences are almost from a different show now, and not one I'd care to watch. I'm here to watch a trashy biker melodrama, not ruminate on the inner angst of a female Che Guevara wannabe.

All of this! Once you take Adelita away from Angel, I couldn’t care less about her and her child army.

The Squeeze song was “Pulling Mussels (from the Shell). Such an odd choice to soundtrack that scene!

[MaggieG]

Ok, it's official, I'm in love with Angel. He won the episode for me! From the way he pulled off his sunglasses when he and EZ were having the draught talk, to the way he yelled at the meth Mayans "that's my brother!", his "it's like Duck Dynasty on ice" line, his face when the brawling started and Gilly screamed, it was definitely a "not this again" face, to the end when he was screaming EZ's name and trying to get to him while fighting.

Coco, what are you doing! I do wonder why none of the guys are asking where he is.

[tennisgurl]

I am almost positive that Coco will be fine, but that was still a tough ending, especially for poor Letty. Telling her dad she hopes he ODs and then him doin just that right after is a horrible thing to have to live with, hopefully its not the last conversation the two of them have. I am glad that Coco took a break from Methhead Mountain, hopefully this means he might get clean soon. Also, if the club is one such high alert, shouldn't they be wondering where the hell Coco is? 

EZ really breaking out the college talk this week, existential biker speeches all over the place. The season is taking a really violent turn as the guys keep killing and fighting more and more people and burning more bridges, but I appreciate them adding in some bits of comic relief, especially the banter between Angel and EZ, which has been in top form. "The dry is is over?"  

Adelita is great, but I really hope they connect her to the main plot again soon. Or at least back with Angel. At least we got a break from Emily and Galindo, who I do often enjoy but, again, often seems disconnected to the main story for now. 

Poor Gabby just has "tragic end" stamped all over her perfect angelic forehead. 

[TrininisaScorp]

What tough episode all around!  

I love Hank.  He's the sweetest, and he's going to get his little heart totally stomped over.  His conversation with Nail in the bathroom and with his mom were so sweet. This feels like a realistic love triangle that doesn't make me roll my eyes. 

That said, Nails and Angel are going to be a disaster b/c he's a disaster rn.  His little outburst at brunch was really projection and out of line.  "Everything comes to this town to die" with Gaby and EZ turns into "baby!? hugs" with Nails.  Clayton continues to nicely sell Angel's pain b/c he is in so much pain.  

That brunch was everything.  What was EZ thinking?  He knows the Reyes men are nothing like Gaby's sweet family.  Angel being late, drunk, and a dick are no surprise.  She was probably a little hurt that Pops was gruff in his embarrassment too. Gaby, girl...that bloody nose should let you know to go to nursing school in Lodi.  EZ hot, but not worth this bullshit. Bridge or no bridge. 

As a South Asian woman who has been called "exotic" and "pretty" (you hear the quotes...trust me) by white men and women, I felt Gaby's words about what that means.  I also hear it for the underlined putdown that it kind of is. 

Oh, Letty.  This poor thing has been through it.  The actress has such a baby face, so my heart just breaks.  Glad Coco is alive.  I am concerned with no one helping him.  Letty is a child.  Where are his damn "brothers" to support him?!  WTF, Gilly!

So, Tazo was in love and in a relationship with David, and when Palo found out he killed him?  OMG.  I didn't expect that.  I thought the scene with Tazo and Laura was handled really well by both actors.  I'll always be mad at Tazo for killing Riz, but damn, I get the motivation against Palo now.  

Palo and El Banquero seem really dangerous. I'm interested to see how this brutality plays out because once again Miguelito is too busy fucking around to handle his business.  That sex scene was uncomfortable; I guess Emily likes it rough b/c that didn't look fun to me.  Which...whatever floats your boat, and we don't kink shame.  They are just not a healthy couple and he doesn't trust her one bit. Nestor's decision gives me heartache bc it puts Alvarez and the Mayans directly on a collision. 

I didn't miss Adelita one bit.  I feel like her storyline is at an end b/c she's rebuilding the rebels, but how does that dovetail into the main action?

Edited April 28, 2021 by TrininisaScorp

[Dowel Jones]

Looks like EZ might be missing the next Temple.  Kind of hard to talk your way out of that one.

Who was the first guy that the Banquero had killed?  Just some rando to prove a point to the Mayan guy?

I wonder why Gabi would stay in Santo Palo in the first place when she had family in Lodi. In any case, if she has a brain she'll be on the next Dog out of town.

What the fuck, Steve?

So Bishop finally noticed that Coco wasn't around.  The club is getting smaller.

[CrystalBlue]

YAY!  Coco is alive!!!  I know he was probably going to make it through, but it was such a relief to see him vomiting.  (It's been a rough week for me contemplating the alternative.)

Yay!  Hope is gone!  I hope we never see her or Meth Manson again.

Now Coco can withdraw from heroin and heal.  It won't be easy but Leticia has her Dad's back.  Coco will be at the next Temple, while EZ probably will not.

Gaby, now that you know what's what is Santo Padre, get thee to Lodi ASAP.  Angel ruining brunch was the best thing that happened because he spoke the truth.  I never loved Angel more than in this episode.

While I've been predicting Emily will turn on Miguel, I guess it's going to be the other way around, eventually.  I really thought he was going to strangle her for reals because he knows Emily has been in touch with EZ and involved in Dita's death.

Do we really need another bambino?  Nails and Hank and Angel love triangle.  Is Angel going to end up with two baby mamas?  I take it he still thinks the baby with Adelita is dead.

Speaking of which, I didn't miss her at all.

Taza and David's storyline was a surprise.

[MrsRafaelBarba]

This season has been an endless series of Picard Facepalms.

 Gabi and her bloody nose better take her ass to Lodi and go to Nursing

 School.  

 Mama Galindo's FU from the grave to Emily, totally in character.

 That sex scene was disturbing, thought Miguel was going to kill her.

  Meth Mountain looks like B-Roll from a Wrong Turn sequel.

   Hope Coco stays away, I fear Pappy Argent/Isaac will rape him..

    Am I the only one, who thought Miguel was going to kill the Maid?

    Nails looks like Princess from The Walking Dead.

    Hope will probably OD, immediately after returning to Mt. Meth.

 

[toodywoody]

Nestor with his braids out and his little belly. I though was cute as hell.

And Nails getting back with Angel, I feel so bad for my boy Hank. 

Dita and her pot stirring shit when she's the one that was evil. 

 

[Dowel Jones]

32 minutes ago, MrsRafaelBarba said:

  Am I the only one, who thought Miguel was going to kill the Maid?

No, I'm pretty sure she thought the same thing too, from her facial expressions.

[CrystalBlue]

3 hours ago, MrsRafaelBarba said:

This season has been an endless series of Picard Facepalms.

 Gabi and her bloody nose better take her ass to Lodi and go to Nursing

 School.  

 Mama Galindo's FU from the grave to Emily, totally in character.

 That sex scene was disturbing, thought Miguel was going to kill her.

  Meth Mountain looks like B-Roll from a Wrong Turn sequel.

   Hope Coco stays away, I fear Pappy Argent/Isaac will rape him..

    Am I the only one, who thought Miguel was going to kill the Maid?

    Nails looks like Princess from The Walking Dead.

    Hope will probably OD, immediately after returning to Mt. Meth.

 

Agree with you although I don't know the other roles references.  Dita called Emily the White Devil and she really didn't approve of her, so I think you're right that Dita fed the fired maid info before she died.

If we never see Hope or Gaby again, I will be a happy camper.

Coco needs to stay away from Meth Mtn. period.

[MaggieG]

Poor Hank!! I just want that lovable lug to be happy. We all knew Nails was going to run back to Angel the second he called. 

I cracked up at Angel walking into brunch "oh no, this isn't an intervention is it?" Also Angel, stop watching infomercials and get some Netflix

I'm so glad Coco is alive. I do feel bad for Letty that she has to now pick up the pieces and take care of him after going through the same thing with Coco's mom. I love that she didn't budge an inch to let Hope out of the room.

Can we talk about Nestor's glorious hair?!

Gaby. Girl. Run

Edited April 29, 2021 by MaggieG

[toodywoody]

Ok, I love Hank and seeing him get basically the same treatment as Last American Virgin just really made me sad. He is a good guy, still looks after his mom and while Angel is sexy as hell, we all know what's her name (who I have never given 2 shits about) will return. 

I just want Hank, Coco and all of them to be happy but come on it's a Sutter show.

[tennisgurl]

Oh EZ, you got way into the fantasy happy family world, which is especially unfortunate as Angel is being even more drunk and disorderly than usual. Hopefully that elbow to the face and the worlds most uncomfortable brunch is enough to have Gabby heading off to nursing school ASAP. Yeah EZ is cute but is he worth this kind of drama? 

Thank goodness Coco is alright, and is hopefully going to finally leave Meth Manson and Spawn Ranch 2.0 behind for good. Poor Letty, her actress is so good, she has such an expressive face. 

That's Dita for you, stirring shit up even from beyond the grave. She never liked Emily, I totally think she fed that to the maid so that Galindo would blame Emily for her death, she sure was something. 

Poor Hank, he's such a sweet guy and he likes Nails so much. But of course she goes to Angel to tell him about the baby, which is understandable, but is also apparently getting with him, even if he is way too much of a mess for any kind of relationship. He never saw her as more than a friend with benefits which she seems to have real feelings for him, so this is just going to end in heartbreak. 

[SuzieQ]

On 4/28/2021 at 4:07 PM, CrystalBlue said:

While I've been predicting Emily will turn on Miguel, I guess it's going to be the other way around, eventually.  I really thought he was going to strangle her for reals because he knows Emily has been in touch with EZ and involved in Dita's death.

 

Emily had no clue how close she came to dying!!  When she crawled all over him afterwards talking about how effing hot that was, I literally LOL'd!

[SuzieQ]

On 4/27/2021 at 11:06 PM, TrininisaScorp said:

  As a South Asian woman who has been called "exotic" and "pretty" (you hear the quotes...trust me) by white men and women, I felt Gaby's words about what that means.  I also hear it for the underlined putdown that it kind of is. 

 

Really?  That is interesting and sad.  I have no idea what your experience is, but I thought that was a weird comment by her.  I would have thought Emily meant it sincerely.  Blue eyed blondes are a dime a dozen, so that would have never occurred to me that it was accurate.  Thanks for another perspective.

[Ottis]

Still catching up, on ep 6, but this season seems both more professionally done and more conventional and predictable. Totally saw EZ being attacked, though I expected a car from the side.

At first glance I liked the new opening, but after watching it I don’t get it. Are we saying all these fuck ups and poor decision makers and criminals are the result of institutionalized discriminaton? No. Just no. 
 
I don’t mind Gaby. It’s like watching a new Gemma in training. 

I still can’t stand Emily.

Late add: Also? It appears “I got you” is the new “I get that.” Kind of ironic that the clueless characters are constantly noting they “get” things.

Edited May 3, 2021 by Ottis

[ShortyMac]

Holy fuck, this episode was insane!!!!!!!!! Miguel drugs Emily, drowns her, and brings her back!

What the fuck, Steve?? RIP!

[TrininisaScorp]

Seriously.  Right back to the darkness of the first episode of the season. 

Coco is out (has anyone even checked on their "brother"?!).  Steve is in, but then can't take it and kills himself (wow).  EZ is saying he's out (but he isn't). Adelita seems to be on a suicide mission. Miguel almost takes out Emily (that was shocking).  Alvarez is a a damn spot b/c of Nestor.  

I'm concerned that we may be at the end of Coco's road.  I hope not, but Torture Coco tv doesn't sound good to me at all.

Angel and Nails are engaged with the ring that he proposed to Adelita not a week before.  Certainly, this is going to end badly.  Poor, sweet Hank.

Palo at Laura's house was worrying.  Nothing good can come of this. 

Edited May 5, 2021 by TrininisaScorp

[nasir jones]

It’s crazy to say this, but the Steve suicide scene was as well-shot as anything I’ve seen on this show or it’s predecessor.

So now I have to root for the guy who killed John Denver just because Galindo is a 9,000% piece of garbage? Or maybe not because Adelita is going to finish that job…

Vaya con DIOS Chucky!

[Dowel Jones]

The ex-governor, RIP, could have used a lot better security.  Glazed eyed kids wandering through the meeting room?  How did they even get in?  And they didn't secure the bathroom before her speech, either.  This is after open threats against her. 

Adelita deserves a horrible death for brainwashing those kids.

16 hours ago, ShortyMac said:

Miguel drugs Emily, drowns her, and brings her back!

I had to laugh at those strategically place rose petals when he pulled her out of the tub.

I'm kind of surprised that Bishop would call an ambulance for Steve.  Brotherhood and all, but a point blank gunshot to the head is a done deal, and the ambulance would call for the cops, and now you've got cops swarming all over the clubhouse.  A lot can go wrong there.  In real life, the patch ceremony may have been quite accurate.  I read a book by an undercover cop who infiltrated a SoCal chapter of the Mongols.  He started out as a prospect, of course, but details in the book how they had a big party and the President of the Mongols showed up and gave him his patches.  He also details his conflicted response as he was obviously ecstatic to become a full member of the club, but he's still a cop trying to bust them.

To paraphrase Goose from a long time ago, "Coco, you died because you were stupid."  Plan?  What's a plan?  I don't need no stinking plan.  Letty stands a way better chance on her own.

Well, Hank, it looks like just two plates for dinner next Thursday.

So, what's El Banquero's role in all this?  Is he looking to become the boss of all bosses in the heroin trade?

[tennisgurl]

Seriously, what the fuck Steve? 

Too soon? Holy shit that was a whirlwind of an episode, shit going down left and right. Coco is out of the club (has anyone given him a call?) Steve is in, but then Steve cant handle that he killed someone and killed himself, Angel and Nails are engaged using the ring he proposed to Adelita with, Gabby understandably heads for the hills but EZ wants to go with him, Adelita's creepy child army kills the governor, and, oh yeah, Miguel tries to murder Emily but changes his mind at the last minute and brings her back. No wonder this episode was so long. 

Poor Steve, this was really not the life for him. And poor Hank, he is about the nicest outlaw biker in the world, and he really likes Nails so much. I feel bad for her too, she really seems to be into Angel but she is just his rebound/baby mamma who he just saw as a friend with benefits and Adelita placeholder. 

Edited May 5, 2021 by tennisgurl

[Dowel Jones]

1 hour ago, tennisgurl said:

Gabby understandably heads for the hills but EZ wants to go with him,

I know what you meant, but....Lodi?  The hills?  Disclaimer:   I live in the San Joaquin Valley.

[toodywoody]

Hey Miguel, instead of just taking one person's word about your wife killing your precious mother and then assuming it was EZ (which it was), those tracks could have been there before your precious mother was there.  You and Nestor are not detectives and instead of trying to kill your wife in a 24 hour time span,  why don't you do a little more digging.

Damn Steve. I knew he was going to pull the gun and shoot himself. 

Coco, here I thought they were going to set him on fire.

I'm sorry but Nails is not attractive to me. I know she was a rebound and I know it isn't going to give Angel the happy little family he thinks it will.

Hank, I love you. You can come cuddle with me anytime. I'll love you long time.

I was wishing that Gaby had already left. EZ you made your choice last season. You knew what the club was about and you still went all in even after you weren't an informant any longer. 

[CrystalBlue]

2 hours ago, Dowel Jones said:

I know what you meant, but....Lodi?  The hills?  Disclaimer:   I live in the San Joaquin Valley.

I think tennisgurl meant Gaby heads for the Valley and EZ wants to go with her.  But I knew what she meant too.

[CrystalBlue]

Mayans finally has a wild ride!  No boring filler here.  So much to unpack.

Bish already told Gillly that if Coco wasn't at the next Templo he was out.  Why Gillly wasn't calling and checking on him in the meantime I don't know.  I don't like or want Coco torture porn either.  Now I am so sad for Coco's future, and his very life.

I thought Miguel was going to throw a plugged-in electronic device (radio, hairdryer) in the bathtub but instead he drugged Emily's wine.  Then I was expecting her to make a miraculous awakening and gasp for air.  Very good scene with surprise twists all around.  I was just getting used to Emily being dead and me being wrong about the show not getting rid of her!  Miguel never said anything about what he knows before he was going to kill his wife.  Does this mean Miguel really does love Emily?

I did not see Steve's suicide coming.  He just got fast tracked into the club but his demons got the best of him.  RIP Steve.

Poor Hank and his broken heart.  I don't see Nails and Angel lasting, and maybe not even the pregnancy.

Adelita can go off to hell now.  Hopefully the baby will resurface someday and Angel will find out he's not dead and he can get him.

[tennisgurl]

3 hours ago, Dowel Jones said:

I know what you meant, but....Lodi?  The hills?  Disclaimer:   I live in the San Joaquin Valley.

Yeah I meant it more in the figure out speech way, as in when something bad is happening people leave the danger as soon as possible, like Gabby leaving town and EZ now that things are getting violent. I wasn't referencing any hills in particular! I sadly do not know the geography of that area very well so I cant say if she is near any hills or valleys! I do kind of wonder about Gabby saying how she wants to avoid violence and crime though. She knows who EZ is and what his club does, the violence in his life cannot be that much of a shocker. EZ is generally pretty chill for an outlaw biker, but he IS still an outlaw biker. 

I really question the detective abilities and life choices of Miguel, he was just going to kill his wife based on the word of one or two guys? He never even brought up the whole mom murder thing to her before he tried to poison and drown her? Between this show and SoA there is a real theme of "mother in laws lower your life expectancy" going on. 

Edited May 6, 2021 by tennisgurl

[Dowel Jones]

1 hour ago, tennisgurl said:

Yeah I meant it more in the figure out speech way,

That's why I put the SJV note in there.  I live about 100 miles south of Lodi, and it's in the middle of the valley too.  It's just that I laughed at the figure of speech. 

[toodywoody]

And if Meth Head Mnt dude doesn't stfu he is going to turn into Negan for me. Talking all this shit, just get to the point already mf.

And Nestor despite being Miguel's little snitch was looking good with his braids again. 

[CrystalBlue]

3 hours ago, toodywoody said:

And if Meth Head Mnt dude doesn't stfu he is going to turn into Negan for me. Talking all this shit, just get to the point already mf.

And Nestor despite being Miguel's little snitch was looking good with his braids again. 

Yeah, Senior Methhead talks in nursery rhymes and that other dude at El Banquero's said he didn't come down for Sesame Street stories!  Ha!

[toodywoody]

Ok if Manson Family Negan doesn't stfu I'm going to fast forward through his scenes. Does he just keep all his people high all the time then send them out like the Manson girls to get new people to get the drugs or what? Am I missing something here? Like I get it but does he pimp out the girls to get the guys to come with the drugs? I guess ai just don't get it.

Then Adelita, just hurry up and either die or go crawling back to Angel to fuck up his perfect family because your revenge didn't work out and leaving her cult of kids is fucked up. Her and Manson Family Negan need to get together since they like to fuck up people's lives. I don't understand how she thinks she is better when she kills and makes kids do her killing for her and then leaves them. At least Manson Family Negan sticks around for his people.

[MaggieG]

On 5/6/2021 at 10:16 AM, toodywoody said:

Ok if Manson Family Negan doesn't stfu I'm going to fast forward through his scenes. Does he just keep all his people high all the time then send them out like the Manson girls to get new people to get the drugs or what? Am I missing something here? Like I get it but does he pimp out the girls to get the guys to come with the drugs? I guess ai just don't get it.

He is pretty annoying. I'm hoping someone can kill his ass. Maybe Letty goes to the club for help and they can go there to bust Coco out. My heart broke for poor Letty when she was begging Coco not to choose Hope over her.

Poor Hank! I just wanted to give him a hug.

I had a feeling Steve was going to do something like that.

I LOLed at EZ telling Angel to stop knocking people up.