Spoiler Discussion Thread: The Sequel

[bijoux]

Where is this second sneak peek? I'm missing it. 

[Guest]

Just now, bijoux said:

Where is this second sneak peek? I'm missing it. 

Here:

[bijoux]

Thanks. I hope Felicity at least goes to wherever she lives now buzzed and messes with the n00bs' credit scores into eternity. No new boxing bags for you, Rene 

Or better yet, uses her invention to predict when the three dolts will mess up again. Then be completely chill about it when they find out and act offended. I would apologize if only I had liked living seperate from my husband and step-son, with all of us in constant danger a tiny bit more. Alas. 

[KenyaJ]

12 minutes ago, Angel12d said:

That 2nd sneak peek...Felicity and Diggle just happily drinking with NTA turns my stomach. They're really just pretending S6 didn't happen. I cannot! I cannot erase my memory and my hatred. What the hell.

I really hate this. It's making me loathe the noobs even more than I already did.

[way2interested]

All I thought of from the clip, tbh

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, KenyaJ said:

I really hate this. It's making me loathe the noobs even more than I already did.

Same. It's so frustrating. 

[insomniadreams88]

That second clip.

1. Let Felicity drink as much as she wants/do whatever she wants.

2. Diggle says ARGUS is watching Felicity until Diaz off the board. Did he forget he had 24/7 ARGUS surveillance on Felicity and William in 701? 

3. Ugh, I'm so annoyed Felicity has to even be in the same room as NTA. 

4. Happy to see Felicity inventing stuff. 

[tennisgurl]

I don’t care how much the show wants is to forget about all the crap that NTA pulled last season, I still remember, and I’m still pissed. 

[statsgirl]

3 hours ago, apinknightmare said:

Do you happen to know which episode she mentioned being a high school dropout in? I looked back at a few scenes I thought it might've been mentioned in and it wasn't. I don't remember this coming up, but this is the third time I've seen it so I'm sure I missed something.

I can't exactly remember the scene but I think it was in s5 when she first appeared and was all sob story to everyone but Felicity who wasn't fooled.  Good times

Edited October 22, 2018 by statsgirl

[BunsenBurner]

The shirt Curtis is wearing in the second clip reminds me of pillows my parents used to have on their outdoor furniture. Ugly then and ugly now. 

Edited October 22, 2018 by BunsenBurner

[insomniadreams88]

Also, I'm now 100% convinced Watson's showing up in tonight's episode and Felicity goes to her:

[Chaser]

The next episode looks boring. 

[way2interested]

SA shot for only a little bit and then went to Hawaii while the rest of the cast filmed throughout the whole week and they only show Oliver's small part as promotion? Sounds like CW promo to me.

[BkWurm1]

I'm thinking we get more on Felicity working with Watson too. 

[way2interested]

In thinking about it, if they actually did jump on this "where are Olicity?" mystery train, I would wonder if (after subsequent episodes revealing that this was more semi-recent than 702 implies obviously since we still see William in at least 704 and they possibly have another kid in Star City) in 707, SA isn't older Oliver in person, but if they'll try to do more parallels and have Oliver make videos just like Robert did for him and Thea to add to the mystery and reveal "older Oliver" then. They could even do a cheesy parallel where that's how they reveal Maya's their kid and voice over it to the Emiko reveal at the end of the episode.  

Edited October 23, 2018 by way2interested

[way2interested]

Ha, "may have"

[Guest]

Thanks for letting us know they didn't abandon him, CH. Haha.

[KenyaJ]

LOL. That actually made me happy, because he clearly knows that Oliver and Felicity didn't abandon William. And now I'm even more curious to know what was the precipitating event for William thinking that Oliver and Felicity left him. 

I can certainly understand why he might have abandonment issues. He's lost his mom, his dad voluntarily went to prison, and his stepmom sent him off to boarding school. Even though Oliver and Felicity's actions were meant to protect him, who could blame him for being afraid that the people close to him are going to eventually leave him. It reminds me a lot of Felicity dealing with losing her father, Cooper, and (at times) Oliver.

So even though I expect him to be  reunited with his parents post-prison, and I can only imagine Oliver and Felicity being loving, caring parents, it's not hard for me to believe William might grow up expecting to eventually end up alone. But he's also smart, so I'm confused why once the hozen started signaling him, he wouldn't immediately think that Felicity and Oliver were in trouble. I have so many questions!

[Guest]

William probably has abandonment issues rooted in the fact that he grew up without his dad. It might not make sense because we know Oliver didn't abandon him at all but a little kid doesn't know the difference. And then of course his dad went to prison and Felicity sends him to boarding school. That all adds up. 

I definitely think they've only been gone a few months, at most. At least I hope so. I know Arrow is never gonna be sunshine and rainbows but I hope we don't have more set-in-stone misery porn 20 years in the future. 

[Featherhat]

I assumed that William would be reunited with Olicity at some point because apart from every other reason, they won't want to miss the theoretical drama of Will coming out to his famous playboy dad and *sigh* having Curtis involved as well. Not that Oliver would react badly.

[apinknightmare]

56 minutes ago, KenyaJ said:

LOL. That actually made me happy, because he clearly knows that Oliver and Felicity didn't abandon William. And now I'm even more curious to know what was the precipitating event for William thinking that Oliver and Felicity left him. 

After watching it again, I wonder if William's just talking about Oliver leaving him by going to jail, and Felicity leaving him by sending him off to boarding school. Especially since William said "you're leaving me" in the ARGUS room when Felicity said goodbye. Maybe he was just filling Roy in on what happened to him after he and Thea left town, and he's using it as a basis for his abandonment issues (and to let us think they never go back to get him at boarding school or leave him at some point in the future). 

[scarynikki12]

Beth said the flash forward is a fixed timeline right? And twenty years from now is right in the middle of ARGUS being a Big Bad so I’m guessing that they’re behind whatever is going on and the present story will see some of that unfold in conjunction with the flash forward reveals. To what end I don’t know (maybe next year’s crossover takes the characters to the future to take them down?) but that’s what I’m guessing. 

[KenyaJ]

Bless Paige for digging up these quotes.

[calliope1975]

I was contemplating skipping the next ep, but Felicity looks good in her FBI attire. You got me, Show.

[bijoux]

If only she didn't take Rene and Dinah along for the ride. :/ You're harshing my buzz, nimrods!

[insomniadreams88]

I almost wish BS was with them, if only for an FBI agent to go, "Hey, I studied law, and I was reading about this case and wondering..." and BS to just stare at the person blankly. 

I am surprised to see Felicity's still bruised. I honestly expected them to have her completely heal off-screen between episodes. I'm glad they're not acting like she just got a paper cut. 

Also, how can anyone look at her, see she's still bruised, and expect her to just sit back and do nothing? 

[Featherhat]

2 hours ago, scarynikki12 said:

Beth said the flash forward is a fixed timeline right? And twenty years from now is right in the middle of ARGUS being a Big Bad so I’m guessing that they’re behind whatever is going on and the present story will see some of that unfold in conjunction with the flash forward reveals. To what end I don’t know (maybe next year’s crossover takes the characters to the future to take them down?) but that’s what I’m guessing. 

It might depend on if LOT keeps the ARGUS big bad storyline fixed or change it like they did Amaya's fate. It would be interesting to see ARGUS become overtly nastier and how/if Lyla and or John figure into that. Be angst as he'll. Though that is what Arrow likes. 

[Guest]

I love Felicity teaming up with Watson and finally getting the FBI to do their damn job. Bummed that Rene and Dinah are along for the ride though. GO AWAY. 

Edited October 23, 2018 by Guest

[BkWurm1]

Doesn't Dinah have a day job to keep her busy??  I wonder who really is running the SCPD.  

[SmallScreenDiva]

6 hours ago, scarynikki12 said:

Beth said the flash forward is a fixed timeline right? And twenty years from now is right in the middle of ARGUS being a Big Bad so I’m guessing that they’re behind whatever is going on and the present story will see some of that unfold in conjunction with the flash forward reveals. To what end I don’t know (maybe next year’s crossover takes the characters to the future to take them down?) but that’s what I’m guessing. 

But Beth also said (in an interview I can't find right now) that this is the Arrow timeline unaffected by any flashforwards/time travel that have happened on the other shows. So the whole ARGUS becomes the Big Bad is most likely not happening in this timeline. 

[Primal Slayer]

Oliver was able to be The Mayor and skip out on majority of his work, its just another day in Star City for high up officials to ignore the day2day.

It should feel like a step back using the FBI to track down Diaz and friends instead of Argus who should be more technically advanced and better equipped to do the job, the FBI seems to be the only competent ones around still.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Primal Slayer said:

It should feel like a step back using the FBI to track down Diaz and friends instead of Argus who should be more technically advanced and better equipped to do the job, the FBI seems to be the only competent ones around still.

This is why it feels very forced for Felicity and Diggle to be working apart. 

[BkWurm1]

2 hours ago, Primal Slayer said:

 

It should feel like a step back using the FBI to track down Diaz and friends instead of Argus who should be more technically advanced and better equipped to do the job, the FBI seems to be the only competent ones around still.

 

It's also why it feels like Argus could take Diaz off the board if only they actually put a little more effort into it. (And Argus likely wouldn't have had to worry about the super battery falling into the wrong hands and blowing up a city if they'd taken Diaz down before he ever plotted his new plot)  Instead it kind of feels like Argus just isn't that interested in doing more than the basics.  Which doesn't make sense.  Which I think is why I'm more frustrated about Diggle's trust Argus approach.  It feels like not bagging Diaz is a choice they are making.  

[way2interested]

This sums up my response, because it works on s many levels: 

[Morrigan2575]

If there isn't a Big Bad, there was no need to make KA a Series Regular and lock him in for the season.  

[Mellowyellow]

Stanley is the Little Bad and SA is being sneaky?

[way2interested]

10 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

If there isn't a Big Bad, there was no need to make KA a Series Regular and lock him in for the season.  

I guess unless they are dragging out catching him and making him more of like a Macguffin than big bad. With the big hyped 707 fight scene, I just wonder what his purpose is for being in about 6+ more episodes after that. Maybe someone new comes and rescues him after the prison fight and it becomes a massive team up by the end like s6 was hinting but never did, idk.

Unless they actually are doing Argus for the enemy, which would be cool 

8 minutes ago, Mellowyellow said:

Stanley is the Little Bad and SA is being sneaky?

I definitely think it's SA partially being "don't think about this so we can surprise you later"

Edited October 24, 2018 by way2interested

[Primal Slayer]

9 hours ago, BkWurm1 said:

It's also why it feels like Argus could take Diaz off the board if only they actually put a little more effort into it. (And Argus likely wouldn't have had to worry about the super battery falling into the wrong hands and blowing up a city if they'd taken Diaz down before he ever plotted his new plot)  Instead it kind of feels like Argus just isn't that interested in doing more than the basics.  Which doesn't make sense.  Which I think is why I'm more frustrated about Diggle's trust Argus approach.  It feels like not bagging Diaz is a choice they are making.  

They really should've introduced a bigger threat for Argus to deal with off screen leaving Diggle with a much smaller team and resources to work with or have something happen to Argus that leaves them smaller resources. 

Or of course start the corruption of Argus.

[tv echo]

703 promo pics...
http://www.greenarrowtv.com/arrow-crossing-lines-official-preview-images/
https://www.spoilertv.com/2018/10/arrow-episode-703-crossing-lines-press.html
https://tvline.com/gallery/arrow-season-7-photos/ 

 

Edited October 24, 2018 by tv echo

[KenyaJ]

There was so much great stuff in this interview, but I think the thing that excited me most was hearing her say she has more action/fight scenes coming up. Yes gawd!

Also, I'm already curled into the fetal position anticipating how scars figure into her and Oliver's first reunion kiss. I already know my emotions won't be able to handle it.

[Trisha]

Love this: "I think her original mindset is a little broken because it’s been sort of jaded and deconstructed, if not completely destroyed. And I think the danger is, has it been or is it repairable? That is pretty much her arc for the season where now she believes justice and her morals lie and whether or not she can accomplish that by being the person she was or does she have to accomplish it now by being the person that she has made herself into? "

Edited October 24, 2018 by Trisha

[insomniadreams88]

It was a really good interview and EBR was adorable.

And as soon as she said she hadn't filmed with or met KM, my first thought was, "because she's in the flash-forwards and those are filmed on a different day/at a different location and we're not going to see future Felicity yet." 

[way2interested]

6 minutes ago, insomniadreams88 said:

And as soon as she said she hadn't filmed with or met KM, my first thought was, "because she's in the flash-forwards and those are filmed on a different day/at a different location and we're not going to see future Felicity yet." 

Mine was BECAUSE SHE'S YOUR KID. But you're a lot more controlled than me.

Love how she like CH practically slammed the idea that Olicity actually abandoned William. Also, I guess there's going to be a dream sequence of the Olicity reunion before they actually do. And I am here for more action scenes.  

[insomniadreams88]

2 minutes ago, way2interested said:

I guess there's going to be a dream sequence of the Olicity reunion before they actually do.

Yeah, I'm not surprised. I'm guessing maybe when Oliver's in solitary? Isn't that supposed to happen in one of the next couple episodes? 

[apinknightmare]

4 minutes ago, way2interested said:

Also, I guess there's going to be a dream sequence of the Olicity reunion before they actually do. And I am here for more action scenes.  

When did she mention that? I didn't get a chance to watch the whole thing.

[way2interested]

2 minutes ago, insomniadreams88 said:

Yeah, I'm not surprised. I'm guessing maybe when Oliver's in solitary? Isn't that supposed to happen in one of the next couple episodes? 

I thought it was 703 but the promo makes it look like not. Might be in 704 instead I guess, which is when he goes to Level Two aka "worse than a death sentence."

2 minutes ago, apinknightmare said:

When did she mention that? I didn't get a chance to watch the whole thing.

[tv echo]

FYI, from EBR's ET interview today, I've posted transcriptions of the spoilery stuff in the Spoilers thread and transcriptions of almost the entire interview in the Starling City Times thread (also posted transcriptions of the crossover stuff in the DCTV Crossover thread in the LoT forum).

Edited October 24, 2018 by tv echo

[KenyaJ]

I hope the secret Felicity learns about Oliver is that he owns a shell corporation that purchased Queen Manor before the Queens lost their money. (Sorry, I just really want Queen Manor back.) But I suspect that she actually learns he has a half sibling.

[apinknightmare]

How many times is Diggle going to ask Curtis to go undercover for ARGUS? Jeez. 

[way2interested]

3 minutes ago, KenyaJ said:

I hope the secret Felicity learns about Oliver is that he owns a shell corporation that purchased Queen Manor before the Queens lost their money. (Sorry, I just really want Queen Manor back.) But I suspect that she actually learns he has a half sibling.

Yeah, I almost wish it was something else since we kind of can figure that out already XD. At leaast it's consistent since Felicity found out about Thea back in s2. The real question I guess is why she's looking into it, unless maybe they get some DNA/evidence from 704 where they go after the GA again.