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  1. apinknightmare

    Spoiler Discussion Thread: The Final Countdown

    Eh, who cares about Black Canary? There are 100 of them. There’s nothing special about the name, no motivating factor to be one. Anyone who has a modicum of fighting ability and can fit into leather pants can take the name - you don’t even have to be a good person. The Black Canary is superhero clown shoes on this show. 🤡
  2. apinknightmare

    Spoiler Discussion Thread: The Final Countdown

    Oh yeah, I totally get the thought process behind it since they've done it before - too many times IMO. And it's a nice idea, and I'm sure the scenes will be heartwarming because it will mean something to Oliver. My distaste for it is just part and parcel for how this show treats doppelgängers in general, like they're the same person spread throughout multiple universes instead of individuals living on different earths with different experiences that make them different people.
  3. apinknightmare

    Spoiler Discussion Thread: The Final Countdown

    Yes, I understand how it works. I still don't think that any measure of closure or comfort can be gained from saying something you want to say to the doppelgänger of a person you love. You still know it's not really them - you still know you didn't actually get the chance to say what you wanted to say to them. You can give comfort to them, because they wouldn't know the difference, but IMO that doesn't work the other way around. We'll have to agree to disagree.
  4. apinknightmare

    Spoiler Discussion Thread: The Final Countdown

    I'm not sure how Oliver going back in the past would work. MG said that we'll be seeing "not the version of Tommy we know." Would they rewrite canon to show that he was actually involved in some of Malcolm's shady dealings? Are they rewriting canon for him to have a beard? How would Adrian come into play? In the trailer he's talking to someone who's been on an island for years and came back a vigilante - if that is Oliver, then it's 4 years too early. Maybe his first mission is pulling a Barry and sticking his dick in the timeline? Maybe it's another earth where events unfolded similarly? If Oliver isn't time traveling, then I'm gonna take issue with Stephen saying that Oliver reconciles and gets closure with 5 people he thought he wouldn't over the first 3 eps. Other earths' doppelgängers can't give you closure! They aren't the same people and this is the hill I will die on and I will yell about this forever!!!
  5. apinknightmare

    Spoiler Discussion Thread: The Final Countdown

    That's kind of what I was thinking. I can't imagine these people just trailing along with him until they're needed. Although didn't someone involved with the show say that the first three episodes are like stand-alones? So maybe they don't specifically relate to recruitment but doing something else, and then Oliver runs a mobile multiverse job fair after that?
  6. apinknightmare

    Spoiler Discussion Thread: The Final Countdown

    I'll be upset if he isn't! Pls show, give me one shot behind bars.
  7. apinknightmare

    Spoiler Discussion Thread: The Final Countdown

    Wait, what? I thought Rene went off the grid with Dinah, Roy and Felicity?
  8. apinknightmare

    Spoiler Discussion Thread: The Final Countdown

    I don't know if Katie's assessment of the Laurel situation is correct. She talks about E-2 Laurel being just like E-1 Laurel: The Laureling, but then goes on to say she's still got that "edgy sassiness" which was what made E-2 Laurel stand out in the first place. I think she's just going with that because we're going to see E-2 Laurel as a Black Canary - I think she only really cares about getting that name, and thinks that's all E-1 Laurel was, so if they both have the moniker then they're the same person. As a related aside, there's a longer version of one of her table interviews where she mentions her new costume so many times that when one of the journalists asks her what she's going to miss most about Arrow he adds, "Aside from the costume." LOL
  9. apinknightmare

    S04.E08: Years, Continents, Bloodshed

    I agree. IMO Logan and Logan/Veronica's relationship dominates discussion about the show, but it doesn't translate to actual show time for him/them.
  10. apinknightmare

    Spoiler Discussion Thread: The Final Countdown

    I wouldn't be surprised. In the TVLine interview Matt Mitovich asked Katie what Laurel was up to and she said she liked to say that Laurel was on her own island, on her own journey. Matt said "she's a lone wolf," and she said yes. Then Stephen interrupted and told her that she wasn't, that she had a team member in the premiere. She looks to him and starts to say who it is, but then asks him if it's been revealed and he says no, and she says, "Somebody who we can't mention." That made me think it was a guest star they didn't want to reveal, but it could very well be Oliver. Who knows with her.
  11. apinknightmare

    Spoiler Discussion Thread: The Final Countdown

    I think the Chase as Green Arrow thing comes from the trailer since he's surrounded by green light in one scene and wearing what resembles a hooded Green Arrow-esque ensemble. Stephen saying that he gets to defeat Chase finally seems to put a pin in that theory unless some other earth's Green Arrow is a bad guy. The Tommy being Dark Archer or Prometheus theory seems to come from MG (or whoever, I can't remember) saying that Colin was playing the version of Tommy they always intended for him to play or something along those lines.
  12. Agreed! It was so cute at first when it was still brown. The color really washes her out, and accentuates the weird styling.
  13. That color scheme hurts my eyes. And Katie should fire whoever did that to her hair.
  14. apinknightmare

    Spoiler Discussion Thread: The Final Countdown

    There are enough Black Canaries running around I'm surprised they haven't recreated every version of the costume from the comics.
  15. apinknightmare

    S04.E08: Years, Continents, Bloodshed

    It wasn't a shippery comment. Veronica's relationships also involve her family, her friends, the one with Neptune. Everything about Rob's commentary indicates that they're going to be moving on from those to continue with Veronica in new places with new people. Granted, I could be wrong and they could uproot a person or two to carry over, but it just doesn't seem like that's the plan based on what I've read, and I think that's a mistake.
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