Spoilers and Speculation: Clink Boom and Cheese Fondue

[WendyCR72]

Okay, there's an article in one of the magazines where MB is talking about if Sonny and Laura hooked up the only woman Sonny has had that is like Laura is Lily, and he and Genie work well together and it could be an interesting pairing. Good Lord! They wouldn't actually try that, would they??  

 

OMG, hell no. But it would be another nail in the coffin for GH.

[mybabyaidan]

I don't want a Sam/Liz cat-fight. We've kinda bypassed cat-fight territory at this point

 

You know what would be fun? If Sam didn't do anything.  Just said Liz isn't worth her time, and walk away. 

 

THEN she could head to Wyndemere and throw NIKOLAS off the parapet.

[Tiger]

You know what would be fun? If Sam didn't do anything.  Just said Liz isn't worth her time, and walk away. 

 

THEN she could head to Wyndemere and throw NIKOLAS off the parapet.

Can Monica rip that dead animal off Nik's head, throw it off the parapet, and then let Sam do the same to Nik?

[WendyCR72]

You know what would be fun? If Sam didn't do anything.  Just said Liz isn't worth her time, and walk away. 

 

THEN she could head to Wyndemere and throw NIKOLAS off the parapet.

 

Okay, Sam can leave Liz alone, but SOMEONE has to make her life hell. No more skating for Lizzie. I nominate Monica. Let her make Liz cry at the hospital on an hourly basis.

[ulkis]

She did in fact used to do that, for less, so it should be an easy transition back!

Edited August 18, 2015 by ulkis

[Kitty Redstone]

Well Sonny is now your star without AG around.  I can totally see the writers giving MB what he wants. 

 

If they do, then I will actively (though sadly) root for cancellation.  I resent that GH has been written around this character for years and wish MB would retire, or at least have the decency to see that his character as a frontburner is horrible for the show and agree to move into the background. 

[LeftPhalange]

You know what would be fun? If Sam didn't do anything.  Just said Liz isn't worth her time, and walk away. 

 

THEN she could head to Wyndemere and throw NIKOLAS off the parapet.

 

But someone has to beat Liez's ass. She can't just not get her ass beat. That's unacceptable.

[BunnyFooFoo]

If they do, then I will actively (though sadly) root for cancellation.  I resent that GH has been written around this character for years and wish MB would retire, or at least have the decency to see that his character as a frontburner is horrible for the show and agree to move into the background.

I doubt his ego would allow him to do that. He's probably as happy as a pig in shit now that TG left.

[ulkis]

I'm sure Benard would love to retire if he could. He's got 4 kids however, he's probably trying to get as much tuition money as he can.

[BunnyFooFoo]

But someone has to beat Liez's ass. She can't just not get her ass beat. That's unacceptable.

I don't know how the new HWs will handle it, but under Ron the viewers were trained that no one pays a price for their behavior. Even Luke was whitewashed in the end over killing baby Jake.

This is a major problem with the show, imo. Almost everyone is bad or crazy or stupid and no one suffers for it. It doesn't reflect RL at all. If I moved to a city like PC and saw these people and the inept PCPD I'd pack my family up and move right back out. Some people think this makes for compelling tv. I don't. I guess that's why I don't have any favorites, for me there's no one to root for.

Eta: typo

Edited August 18, 2015 by BunnyFooFoo

[BunnyFooFoo]

I'm sure Benard would love to retire if he could. He's got 4 kids however, he's probably trying to get as much tuition money as he can.

I'm not sure he has to worry about tuition if these are true:

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/actors/maurice-benard-net-worth/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/27/soap-star-maurice-benards_n_854076.html

I sent 2 kids to college and I don't live in a $2 million house.

[SlovakPrincess]

I think they do have a serious problem on their hands. Fans are tired of there being no consequences. But they will also be pissed if characters who were recently written out of character to do crazy things (Liz, Nik, Anna) are the ones who get punished when Sonny, Franco and Dr. O skated on the flimsiest of excuses.

Who knows what the new writers are planning to do, but some serious retconning might be in order.

[ulkis]

oh, I don't think he has to worry about it. But still, it must be nice to save as much as he can, especially since his youngest is still pretty young.

I think they do have a serious problem on their hands. Fans are tired of there being no consequences. But they will also be pissed if characters who were recently written out of character to do crazy things (Liz, Nik, Anna) are the ones who get punished when Sonny, Franco and Dr. O skated on the flimsiest of excuses.

Who knows what the new writers are planning to do, but some serious retconning might be in order.

 

I can't speak for other people, but it depends on how the "good" characters are punished for me. Like, I'll call bullshit if BH were fired and Liz sent to prison off screen while Sonny wanders around, but I want my favorites to pay for their sins. I have higher standards for them than Sonny, O., Franco. I know I want everyone to hate Dante lol and ask him what made him go insane every time they pass him by.

[Lillybee]

From TR's twitter.

 

Lets try again. A big thanx for everyone engaged in bringing Scorpio back. I appreciate the work and love you for it. Thank you.

 

I hope that this means that we will get RFS back.

[Kitty Redstone]

I'm not a heartless person, but I don't much care if MB is working to save tuition money for his kids.  He's earned more in the last 20+ years of messing up my soap than most people on the planet will earn in a lifetime of working.  If he and his producer wife haven't saved enough already, then his kids will have to do what so many others do, and earn scholarships and take out student loans.  I'm not saying this angrily (tone is so difficult to convey here!), but wearily.  It was a breath of fresh air when Sonny was not the focus for about half a minute, and the prospect of him, Carly, and Jason eating this show again makes me sad and frustrated.  I just don't understand what TIIC are thinking.

[BunnyFooFoo]

From TR's twitter.

Lets try again. A big thanx for everyone engaged in bringing Scorpio back. I appreciate the work and love you for it. Thank you.

I hope that this means that we will get RFS back.

I hope so too. Even if he isn't paired with FH and they're just friends I want him back on contract. Although if Sloane getting killed off is true then maybe they will be a couple because I'm not sure who Anna could be with at this point.

I read an interview of TR where he spoke about how he and TG were given a basic outline of what needed to be conveyed in their dialogue (under Monty I believe) but they ad-libbed the rest. According to rumors RC had all the lines written including what expressions and actions the actors should use. That must be stifling to someone like TR and probably explains why I enjoyed the show so much more back then.

Edited August 18, 2015 by BunnyFooFoo

[SlovakPrincess]

I both want and fear a Robert return ... I still don't trust the writers not to keep destroying characters ...

Letting the actors ad lib or be flexible with lines can be good. But it can also get you into trouble - for instance, TG and ES and the Holly-didn't-know-Bill-Eckert debacle.

[ulkis]

I'm not a heartless person, but I don't much care if MB is working to save tuition money for his kids.  He's earned more in the last 20+ years of messing up my soap than most people on the planet will earn in a lifetime of working.  If he and his producer wife haven't saved enough already, then his kids will have to do what so many others do, and earn scholarships and take out student loans.  I'm not saying this angrily (tone is so difficult to convey here!), but wearily.  It was a breath of fresh air when Sonny was not the focus for about half a minute, and the prospect of him, Carly, and Jason eating this show again makes me sad and frustrated.  I just don't understand what TIIC are thinking.

 

No, I don't blame you at all. I don't particularly care either. I don't care about any of the actors, to be honest. I'm always heartlessly saying 20 of these people need to be fired. But I'm just saying, I get why MB (or any of the other actors) don't just bow out for the sake of the show overall.

Edited August 18, 2015 by ulkis

[Tiger]

From TR's twitter.

 

Lets try again. A big thanx for everyone engaged in bringing Scorpio back. I appreciate the work and love you for it. Thank you.

 

I hope that this means that we will get RFS back.

I wish I could 'like' this post 10,000 times!!!

[HeatLifer]

No, I don't blame you at all. I don't particular care either. I don't care about any of the actors, to be honest. I'm always heartlessly saying 20 of these people need to be fired. But I'm just saying, I get why MB (or any of the other actors) don't just bow out for the sake of the show overall.

Right!? I don't get why anyone should feel bad about wanting a character gone. Yes, the actor loses their job, but so what? If we went by that standard, the 3rd Carly would still be on this show.

[WendyCR72]

Right!? I don't get why anyone should feel bad about wanting a character gone. Yes, the actor loses their job, but so what? If we went by that standard, the 3rd Carly would still be on this show.

 

Hell, I was rooting for JT to go after KMc left. I admit I love(d) Scrubs, but I knew once Robin was gone that Patrick staying would lead to nothing good for the character.

 

And I was right.

 

Maybe it is wrong to have wished him gone, but considering what has happened since, and knowing other pairings have had an actor exit after or with the other half, I don't think it was such a mean request. Oh well, moot now.

[HeatLifer]

I think JT was the victim of having a super pairing from the get-go. Some actors can get through it and develop the same kind of response with their other pairings and some are doomed. Rebecca Budig had the same problem on AMC, IMO.

[ulkis]

I think JT was the victim of having a super pairing from the get-go. Some actors can get through it and develop the same kind of response with their other pairings and some are doomed. Rebecca Budig had the same problem on AMC, IMO.

 

gonne respond in the relationships thread.

[ulkis]

Jesus, take the wheel

8/24: Scotty accuses Ava

8/25: Morgan surprised by what he learns; Franco makes a big move that might not pay off

8/26: Morgan's actions could affect his relationship with Kiki

8/27: Franco confesses something

8/28: Kiki reacts to a big reveal; Ric/Madeline scheme

[cmahorror]

Ooh - more spoilers involving characters I don't care about doing things I don't care about. Yeah!

[Oracle42]

FOR FUCKS SAKE!!

What kind of moron looks at the ratings and thinks these spoilers are even worth releasing?

Edited August 19, 2015 by Oracle42

[HeatLifer]

FOR FUCKS SAKE!!

What kind of moron looks at the ratings and thinks these spoilers are even worth releasing?

EXACTLY.

[tvgoddess]

It's not like the other options are so great. Would you rather they release these?

 

-Liz feels guilty over her lies (yet again)

-Nik leers at Hayden

-Valerie starts getting nauseous

-Sonny and Carly move into hard core wedding prep

-Olivia convinces herself she made the right decision

-Lulu and Dillon have a close moment on the Haunted Star

 

The sad fact is that the entire show is just horrible. This is why it should be cancelled.

Edited August 19, 2015 by tvgoddess

[ulkis]

It's not like the other options are so great. Would you rather they release these?

 

-Liz feels guilty over her lies (yet again)

-Nik leers at Hayden

-Valerie starts getting nauseous

-Sonny and Carly move into hard core wedding prep

-Olivia convinces herself she made the right decision

-Lulu and Dillon have a close moment on the Haunted Star

 

The sad fact is that the entire show is just horrible. This is why it should be cancelled.

 

Honestly, these are slightly better than the others, imo, by grace of not including Franco and Nina.

 

But the Liz feel guilty one is pretty atrocious. Like every time I see that "spoiler" I want to plant my face against a wall.

Edited August 19, 2015 by ulkis

[tvgoddess]

 

But the Liz feel guilty one is pretty atrocious.

 

They could recycle that one until the cows come home.

 

Since Ava's being outed soon, at least there's going to be some actual movement on that front. Jakeson, try again next year.

[HeatLifer]

Granted, the only spoilers I'm looking forward to are:

-Sonny accidentally shoots himself and Morgan in a game of Russian Roulette

-Patrick falls down an elevator shaft

-Jason remembers all and wants to know where Robin is

-Liz decides to join Tinder

-Franco and Nina go back to Llanview and Genoa City

[tvgoddess]

 

-Patrick falls down an elevator shaft

 

Ah, Dr. Drake Ramoray.

[WendyCR72]

Jesus, take the wheel

8/24: Scotty accuses Ava

8/25: Morgan surprised by what he learns; Franco makes a big move that might not pay off

8/26: Morgan's actions could affect his relationship with Kiki

8/27: Franco confesses something

8/28: Kiki reacts to a big reveal; Ric/Madeline scheme

 

If only this shit could be bottled. Insomniacs by the dozen would be cured in seconds flat. Because this is all its good for. Well, the bored half. The other half that just CANNOT with Franco and Kiki could just black out from rage. Win win, as they'd miss seeing this trash. I think GH is just doomed now. Put it out of its misery.

[Francie]

Jesus, take the wheel

8/24: Scotty accuses Ava

8/25: Morgan surprised by what he learns; Franco makes a big move that might not pay off

8/26: Morgan's actions could affect his relationship with Kiki

8/27: Franco confesses something

8/28: Kiki reacts to a big reveal; Ric/Madeline scheme

Who are these people?

~GH viewer from 2012

OK fine, James Franco's Franco was on then but still. Talk about doubling down on all the hateful, loser characters.

I predict a 380,000 demo rating for that week.

[KerleyQ]

8/24: Scotty accuses Ava

8/25: Morgan surprised by what he learns; Franco makes a big move that might not pay off

8/26: Morgan's actions could affect his relationship with Kiki

8/27: Franco confesses something

8/28: Kiki reacts to a big reveal; Ric/Madeline scheme

 

 

"Morgan's surprised by what he learns" -  "Over, under, around, and through..."  No more velcro for him! 

[magnolia11]

If this is the crap they've got on deck, they really should be scrambling to make sure that NO advance information gets out.  That way, they might get lucky enough that people would actually tune in by accident.

[thewhiteowl]

I'm not a heartless person, but I don't much care if MB is working to save tuition money for his kids.  He's earned more in the last 20+ years of messing up my soap than most people on the planet will earn in a lifetime of working.  If he and his producer wife haven't saved enough already, then his kids will have to do what so many others do, and earn scholarships and take out student loans.  I'm not saying this angrily (tone is so difficult to convey here!), but wearily.  It was a breath of fresh air when Sonny was not the focus for about half a minute, and the prospect of him, Carly, and Jason eating this show again makes me sad and frustrated.  I just don't understand what TIIC are thinking.

 

 I have enjoyed the lack of Sonny/Carly being the center of the show but I don't think the ratings reflect that. They are low and TIIC must think that putting Sonny back front and center will fix that. I can see why they'd think that but they will lose this viewer.

[Francie]

I tend to skim, so here's what I read:

 

Here's what I read:

 

8/24: Scotty accuses Ava
8/25: Morgan surprised by what he learns; Franco makes a big move that might not pay off
8/26: Morgan's actions could affect his relationship with Kiki
8/27: Franco confesses something
8/28: Kiki reacts to a big reveal; Ric/Madeline scheme

 

Just imagine, it could have been:

 

 8/24: Scotty accuses Anna
8/25: Morgan surprised by what he learns; Nikolas makes a big move that might not pay off
8/26: Patrick's actions could affect his relationship with Sam
8/27: Elizabeth confesses something
8/28: Dante reacts to a big reveal; Michael/Tracy scheme

 

 

 

[ulkis]

Do Morgan and Kiki even have what could be called a "relationship"? I mean, really.

[HeatLifer]

Even if "Patrick's actions could affect his relationship with Sam" was actually a spoiler, I would just assume it had to do with Patrick picking blue curtains instead of the brown ones Sam wanted. Of course, she'd forgive him 2 seconds later, call him her adventure buddy and then say something about Jason.

Edited August 19, 2015 by HeatLifer

[tvgoddess]

 

 

ust imagine, it could have been:

QUOTE

8/24: Scotty accuses Anna

8/25: Morgan surprised by what he learns; Nikolas makes a big move that might not pay off

8/26: Patrick's actions could affect his relationship with Sam

8/27: Elizabeth confesses something

8/28: Dante reacts to a big reveal; Michael/Tracy scheme

 

And all of that would still bore me to tears. It's like 6 in one basket, half dozen in the other for me. So really, no one is winning. Cancel the show and put it (and us) out of its misery.

[LeftPhalange]

Valerie starts getting nauseous

 

I'm nauseous. 

[Oracle42]

I don't want the show cancelled. I just want the last two years to be undone

[yowsah1]

FOR FUCKS SAKE!!

What kind of moron looks at the ratings and thinks these spoilers are even worth releasing?

I shall continue to cling to my forlorn hope that the writers are doing this as a way to bring these stories to a conclusion before writing off the characters.

[dubbel zout]

Morgan surprised by what he learns

 

The possibilities are endless.

[LeftPhalange]

I don't want the show cancelled. I just want the last two years to be undone

 

*Three.

[Tiger]

And all of that would still bore me to tears. It's like 6 in one basket, half dozen in the other for me. So really, no one is winning. Cancel the show and put it (and us) out of its misery.

[small voice]I really like @Francie's "version", especially Michael & Tracy scheming together. [/small voice]

[ulkis]

from ye old Happy New Years (a gossip person of dubious reputation, who used to have a really good information but the last couple of years not so much)

 

Heard a rumor today JP/SA may be only interim head writers.

[Tiger]

from ye old Happy New Years (a gossip person of dubious reputation, who used to have a really good information but the last couple of years not so much)

 

Heard a rumor today JP/SA may be only interim head writers.

Don't tease me like that . . . I still think it'd take either Sri Rao, The Labines, or Harris & ValJean to really save the show; maybe Broderick.

[ulkis]

haha, you know if it's true it's gonna be someone horrid.

 

I think I can deal with anyone but McTavish or this Dena Higley person