Spoilers and Speculation: Clink Boom and Cheese Fondue

[BestestAuntEver]

It depends in who found him. If it's the casting director that found DZ? High hopes.

If it's the brain trust that cast RP? FF city

Plutonium 220 bullet of love because I feel the exact same way.

[Ambrosefolly]

That is a one of problems with FV vs JFP. Yes, JFP often casted her friends, so does FV, but I felt that one of JFP only redeeming qualities as an executive producer is that she would use Mark Teschner more often (or maybe it just felt that way). 

[Tiger]

For Tue my cableguide says "Anna shares a tender moment with Sloane".

I'm sure at least four of you are going to tell me to "REPENT REPENT REPENT REPENT" for this, but I'd rather see Anna willingly hook-up with Faison that share anything with Sloane.

Hell, even though it would be rape, id rather see a brainwashed Anna with Faison. Ron actually laid the groundwork for this last fall and I'd rather watch Patrick, Felicia, and Mac pleading and doing anything to stop Anna from running off with him. That exit would have been better than this shit.

Don't get me wrong, Fin is fucking killing it as 'Anna goes crazy', but there's something truly special about Fin & Anders on-screen together. I think the two of them could have a discussion about the Burger King menu and I'd be totally mesmerized.

ETA: that spoiler about Scotty & Tracy coming together over Dewq's death that didn't make sense, my cableguide has it for Scott & Lucy, which makes a lot more sense.

Edited May 31, 2015 by Tiger

[ulkis]

My problem with the story line is that, for years, DZ has completely sold me on Dante being so completely head over heels in love with Lulu, and only Lulu, that I am going to have a really hard time buying him turning to her cousin.  It's pretty much going to have to be a situation where Lulu cheats first, and I don't think see her still being so into Dillon that she'd ruin her marriage. She had a crush on him as a teen, but that was over and done well before she even met Dante.  

 

another thought on this - I do see DZ selling feelings/likings for Valerie, but the problem is against 6 years of selling it in the acting and a first couple of years of pretty good writing with Dante and Lulu, it just doesn't really hold up. It's the same situation with Patrick in the Sam pairing. JT is doing a good job but it just doesn't wash in comparison to the writing Patrick had when he was in the Robin pairing. Patrick is pretty much a shell. My reaction watching is, "I've seen him when he is in love, and this is not it." 

 

There could easily be a good story about these couples splitting up, I just think Ron has run out of the energy to write it. I could be well wrong though, maybe a half-way decent story will emerge.

Edited June 1, 2015 by ulkis

[jsbt]

I can buy Dante and Lulu drifting towards other people. I can't buy Dante cheating, unless something major happened. Lulu is another story.

 

I think they have all the essential pieces for a good story, and I welcome a good Dillon recast; I also like Valerie a lot. I just don't think there is any commitment to character beyond what the actors bring to the table.

[Aurora2]

another thought on this - I do see DZ selling feelings/likings for Valerie, but the problem is against 6 years of selling it in the acting and a first couple of years of pretty good writing with Dante and Lulu, it just doesn't really hold up. It's the same situation with Patrick in the Sam pairing. JT is doing a good job but it just doesn't wash in comparison to the writing Patrick had when he was in the Robin pairing. Patrick is pretty much a shell. My reaction watching is, "I've seen him when he is in love, and this is not it." 

 

There could easily be a good story about these couples splitting up, I just think Ron has run out of the energy to write it. I could be well wrong though, maybe a half-way decent story will emerge.

 

Early on in the Lante love story, I began to comment on how incredibly well Dom Zamprogna can sell a man being totally and faithfully in love.  Perhaps too well in the soap opera world!!  As early as 2010, I also started to say, again considering the realities of the soap world, that Dante and Lulu were being written and performed with "end game" couple qualities.  Far too young and far too early in the soap world where there is no happy-ending Act Three until characters leave the show or the show itself ends.  This combination of acting with good initial writing has created a dilemma for writers and viewers.  Even the best, long-lasting soap couples have had breakups, lengthy separations and even other relationships in the typical push and pull of soap love stories.  But how do the writers do this considering the way that the Dante and Lulu love story has been written and  portrayed - especially considering how DZ has sold Dante's complete love for Lulu?  

 

 

I can buy Dante and Lulu drifting towards other people. I can't buy Dante cheating, unless something major happened. Lulu is another story.

 

I think they have all the essential pieces for a good story, and I welcome a good Dillon recast; I also like Valerie a lot. I just don't think there is any commitment to character beyond what the actors bring to the table.

 

Like both of you, I do think there could be good story here, but I share ulkis' concern that RC is not up to writing such a story.   Has Ron indeed run of energy?  Can he recapture the quality of these scenes his team wrote for Dante and Lulu in August, 2012?  Watching these scenes again, I can believe this "good story" could be written - if this same quality could be captured again.  

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9SFohu3OPw

 

IF ...

 

In the meantime, we  introduce the unknown of a new Dillon, and I remain convinced that he will be a bigger problem in the Lante marriage than Valerie.  In good part because, unlike Valerie, the character has a well-established history both with Lulu and on the GH canvas in general.   By failing to develop Valerie's potential, IMO, the writers have weakened their own story.  (And, as an aside, they have failed to give a promising new character a chance to become better established). 

Edited June 1, 2015 by Aurora2

[SiouxB]

FV just tweeted at 1:37 EST the following:  Hey @GeneralHospital fans: BIG casting news coming later this afternoon..............stay tuned ! #GH

 

I wonder what that's all about? For me, the best casting news would be that Sean Kanan is leaving B&B and returning to GH.....

Edited June 1, 2015 by SiouxB

[ulkis]

I would be surprised if SK and Cartini ever had anything to do with each other again.

[Oracle42]

Did they already tweet about GF coming back? Maybe it's that

[TeeVee329]

Did they already tweet about GF coming back? Maybe it's that

 

Yeah, they tweeted about that a while back. 

 

It's probably someone else connected to the Luke exit, Jonathan Jackson maybe.

[magnolia11]

Did they already tweet about GF coming back? Maybe it's that

 

No, that was already done a few weeks back.  I'm guessing it will be someone else Luke-related, though.  It would be great if it was Tristan Rogers -- Robert really should be back for Luke's exit.

[Artsda]

Nathan Parsons and JJ were rumored to return for a fairwell to Luke, may be they agreed. Might be harder for Nathan though since he's on The CW where as JJ is on ABC.

[Oracle42]

I'm perfectly willing to forget Nathan's existence - unless they retcon his parentage to Robert/Holly, reveal that Paloma has been masquerading as Holly for years, and send Nathan off to look for his sister Robin - and when he disappears Holly/Anna will team up to rescue them

Shenanigans ensue

Edited June 1, 2015 by Oracle42

[dubbel zout]

Ugh, I don't want Robert albatrossed with Teethan. Let him be the product of Holly having a drunken ONS with someone she'll never remember. Teethan had a very happy childhood with his adoptive parents. Who cares who his birth parents are?

[TeeVee329]

It's Holly:

 

Frank Valentini ‏@valentinifrank  16m16 minutes ago
.@EmmaSamms1 is coming back to @GeneralHospital !! Very excited!! #GH

[HeatLifer]

Eh, I wish I cared, but I don't. I'm just counting down the days until Luke is gone.

[BestestAuntEver]

For me, they destroyed what little affection I had for Holly's character with the Monkey Virus storyline. Her lack of concern for Robin irritated the shit out of me.

Luke can disappear without any returns, fanfare or explanations and I'd been good with it.

[RealityCowgirl]

Another vet they can trash when they're not neglecting her. Groovy.

[dubbel zout]

Yawn. Holly was deadtome the instant she foisted Teethan on us. I know it's not her fault, but still. 

[Oracle42]

Ugh. Luke and Holly were never even a tenth as significant as Robert/Holly. The idea that she'd have an affair with Luke during that time period is gross and it's kind of ridiculous that she's part of his exit.

Edited June 1, 2015 by Oracle42

[UYI]

It would only make sense if Robert came back with her and they said goodbye to him together (don't hurt me, fellow R&A fans! I'm still on your side! *ducks*).

[Tiger]

Can Uncle Frank please pay Leslie a day's wage so Monica can call Lewq out on being a drunken kiddie killer?

[TeeVee329]

New promo with Laura and Holly:

 

http://abc.go.com/shows/general-hospital/video/latest-gh-videos/VDKA0_bm68byw9

[Harmony233]

Laura and Holly look great poor scotty though lol being beat up by Sonny.

[ulkis]

I wish someone would tell Sonny to maybe think about maybe doing some yoga or taking something to ease his murderous hairtrigger temper.

[TeeVee329]

Seriously, putting his hands on the DA?  I hope Scotty has his mobster, confessed murderer ass arrested.

[mybabyaidan]

Apparently in the new SID, it says Jake gets a job for ELQ...Michael hires him as security.  And Sabrina hires Sam to investigate Rosalie,  which is apparently how Jake and Sam end up back in each others orbit.  I don't have a direct link, I got it from twitter.

[tvgoddess]

 

But where are these summer previews, out of curiosity? Can we read them somewhere?

 

http://s1252.photobucket.com/user/Fraryislove/media/image.jpg2_zpsdnt2p5nr.jpg.html

 

http://s1252.photobucket.com/user/Fraryislove/media/image.jpg3_zpse5ntftab.jpg.html

[Ambrosefolly]

Seriously, putting his hands on the DA?  I hope Scotty has his mobster, confessed murderer ass arrested.

He will probably get off with everyone blaming Scotty. Karen needs to come back from the dead to kick  Sonny's ass. 

[TeeVee329]

Oh Ron.  "Grudgingly accept"?  Kiki, Morgan et. al were nodding their fool heads off in agreement from moment one of Delia's story.

 

I'd be more interested in Jake(son) working at ELQ if it wasn't all about Michael and Sam.

Edited June 3, 2015 by TeeVee329

[tvgoddess]

Who the hell does Ron think he's trying to fool, that the only one who knows it's Ava is Sonny? Yeah, because Sonny is oh so smart.

[jsbt]

Apparently in the new SID, it says Jake gets a job for ELQ...Michael hires him as security.  And Sabrina hires Sam to investigate Rosalie,  which is apparently how Jake and Sam end up back in each others orbit.  I don't have a direct link, I got it from twitter.

 

Finally! This is something I actually wanted. I also think the Sam/Sabrina vs. Rosalie thing works, frankly.

 

And thanks for the link, tvg.

Edited June 3, 2015 by jsbt

[TeeVee329]

Also, I still think it's silly that all this drama hinges on Nikolas wanting ELQ for...reasons.

[HeatLifer]

http://s1252.photobucket.com/user/Fraryislove/media/image.jpg2_zpsdnt2p5nr.jpg.html

http://s1252.photobucket.com/user/Fraryislove/media/image.jpg3_zpse5ntftab.jpg.html

Thanks for the links!

How is it possible that Sam/Jase/Liz/Nik all have a story/POV in this hellish love [insert an appropriate shape here], but Patrick is a freaking non-entity? What the hell.

Edited June 3, 2015 by HeatLifer

[jsbt]

Also, I still think it's silly that all this drama hinges on Nikolas wanting ELQ for...reasons.

 

I could go for the Cassadines making a real play for ELQ, but as it is it's an incredibly muted storyline, or has been, with nonsensical motivations for Nikolas. I suspect they are going to dig into that with Laura back, but there's little that could make me buy it. They have started hinting in scripts that this is totally OOC for Nik, so there's got to be something. When the entire thing is being anchored by Nikolas acting like he's fighting an Ambien hangover and surrounded by dayplayers (the annoying fake mayor, annoying Rosalie, annoying Hayden, annoying Sloane), the stakes aren't there.

[WendyCR72]

Thanks for the links!

How is it possible that Sam/Jase/Liz/Nik all have a story/POV in this hellish love [insert an appropriate shape here], but Patrick is a freaking non-entity? What the hell.

 

At this stage, I'm grateful. Maybe he and Emma can leave town for a while. Not like anyone would notice. They can come back if and when this show gets some halfway decent writing. In that case, I hope JT is saving his pennies...

[Harmony233]

He will probably get off with everyone blaming Scotty. Karen needs to come back from the dead to kick  Sonny's ass. 

Of course is there any doubt that sonny will be the victim?

[GHScorpiosRule]

New promo with Laura and Holly:

 

http://abc.go.com/shows/general-hospital/video/latest-gh-videos/VDKA0_bm68byw9

 

It may not be a machine gun, but Woohoo! Go Laura!

 

What?

[LeftPhalange]

New promo with Laura and Holly:

 

http://abc.go.com/shows/general-hospital/video/latest-gh-videos/VDKA0_bm68byw9

 

STFU Liez.

 

Apparently in the new SID, it says Jake gets a job for ELQ...Michael hires him as security.  And Sabrina hires Sam to investigate Rosalie,  which is apparently how Jake and Sam end up back in each others orbit.  I don't have a direct link, I got it from twitter.

 

I'm glad Sam will be getting to put her PI skills to use, but Rosalie? Really? She can't investigate someone more important than that worthless cabbage? 

 

I could go for the Cassadines making a real play for ELQ, but as it is it's an incredibly muted storyline, or has been, with nonsensical motivations for Nikolas. I suspect they are going to dig into that with Laura back, but there's little that could make me buy it. They have started hinting in scripts that this is totally OOC for Nik, so there's got to be something. When the entire thing is being anchored by Nikolas acting like he's fighting an Ambien hangover and surrounded by dayplayers (the annoying fake mayor, annoying Rosalie, annoying Hayden, annoying Sloane), the stakes aren't there.

 

How dare you lump Greenlee Rebecca Budig in with worthless fake mayor, Rosalie, and Sloane. 

[BestestAuntEver]

I find it amusing that MoRon thinks his languishing, never ending, sometimes dropped storylines are simply "perculating".

[ch1]

So Laura is coming back and the promo has her with a gun?

 

Yeah, that sounds about right with this show.  Let's give everyone a gun and they can all stand around giving soliloquies.

[TeeVee329]

In Laura's case, I'll allow it.  The show spent too many years portraying her as a weak, delicate flower. 

 

And if she flips that gun around and pistol whips Holly for subjecting us to Ethan, well, that'd be fine just fine.

[GHScorpiosRule]

So Laura is coming back and the promo has her with a gun?

 

Yeah, that sounds about right with this show.  Let's give everyone a gun and they can all stand around giving soliloquies.

 

It looked like Holly had a gun and was pointing it, so Laura pointed one back? And it looked like Luke was standing next to Laura. But it went by so quick, all I saw was Laura with the gun, and at least she wasn't a weeping, crying, mess. 

 

I'm so easy to please sometimes.

[mybabyaidan]

IDC, Genie looks fucking fabulous.  I am excited to have her back.

 

I am still holding out hope that Nikolas is brainwashed.  It's the only thing that makes sense.   If losing Emily didn't make him go dark, I don't buy stupid Britt being the reason he becomes a murderer.  Pffft.  And pffft.

 

Someone else said on twitter that Ron was quoted as saying we are approaching the last chapter, or in the home stretch of Jake finally learning the damn truth.  So.....reveal in November of 2016?

[TeeVee329]

I am still holding out hope that Nikolas is brainwashed. 

 

I'm not.  I don't want him to have an out.

[dubbel zout]

I wish someone would tell Sonny to maybe think about maybe doing some yoga or taking something to ease his murderous hairtrigger temper.

 

Somebody needs to slip Ativan into his bipolar meds.

 

If losing Emily didn't make him go dark, I don't buy stupid Britt being the reason he becomes a murderer.

 

It's a bit late in the game for Emily's death to be the reason he's gone dark. And yeah, his dalliance with Britt was nothing. It was a rebound from Liz, FFS. 

 

I am still holding out hope that Nikolas is brainwashed.

I'm not.  I don't want him to have an out.

 

Same here. I'm tired of brainwashing/DID/babies being the reasons people do terrible things. You're doing a bad thing because you're a POS. 

Edited June 3, 2015 by dubbel zout

[ulkis]

The only thing that could make this Nikolas mess worth it is if Stefan came back, and Nikolas told him everything and Stefan just stared and Nikolas would start to squirm. But obviously that is not likely to happen. :sadface:

[mybabyaidan]

I'm not.  I don't want him to have an out.

 

I don't necessarily want him to have an out, I just think his 180 makes absolutely NO damn sense.  

 

It's a bit late in the game for Emily's death to be the reason he's gone dark. And yeah, his dalliance with Britt was nothing. It was a rebound from Liz, FFS. 

 

 

I wasn't saying Emily's death has anything to do with his 180, I was saying since he didn't go dark WAY back then, I don't buy Britt being the reason he is now.

[TeeVee329]

I wasn't saying Emily's death has anything to do with his 180, I was saying since he didn't go dark WAY back then, I don't buy Britt being the reason he is now.

 

He very briefly blamed all the women - Emily for dying and Liz and Britt for his crappy love life - because nothing is his own fault for thinking with his royal scepter.

[dubbel zout]

I wasn't saying Emily's death has anything to do with his 180, I was saying since he didn't go dark WAY back then, I don't buy Britt being the reason he is now.

I am agreeing with you.