Nashville June 10, 2020 Share June 10, 2020 I’ve heard a certain fraudulent couple’s name floating around the SMosphere. I won’t say their names out loud, though; the Universe might hear me. If they end up on the roster, though, trust me - I am SO outta here. 🤬🤬🤬 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6175859
peachmangosteen June 10, 2020 Share June 10, 2020 13 hours ago, HighQueenEB said: Well, how about casting previous cast members who WEREN'T joining in the racist behavior of some of the awful cast members? It's not hard to figure out which "All-Stars" were the racist assholes and which ones weren't. I think that's probably the #1 reason they're looking to do returning players, that way they already know whether they've shown their ass yet or not lol. It's always been so hard for them to do thorough background checks on newbies for some reason. 57 minutes ago, Nashville said: I’ve heard a certain fraudulent couple’s name floating around the SMosphere. I won’t say their names out loud, though; the Universe might hear me. If they end up on the roster, though, trust me - I am SO outta here. 🤬🤬🤬 Oh, they're so gonna be on there. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6175944
peachmangosteen June 10, 2020 Share June 10, 2020 So, I'm perusing Dick's twitter because I hate myself and these are the people he's brought up as hearing they are being considered for the cast: Nicole (ew), Swaggy and Bayleigh (no), BB16 Brittany (I don't hate it), Haleigh (I had hoped she was better than this now lol), Josh (I have had to put up with him on back-to-back Challenge seasons, I can't deal with him again!), Paul (WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY), Derrick (OK obviously they are trying to hurt me for some reason), Frankie (lol). He said Tyler was asked but he didn't know anything beyond that. Personally, just say no to Tyler and bring back Angela instead. Not both though. Ew. He also said he's only hearing people post BB16 (lol the worst seasons!) and that they're trying to be 'diverse,' which is funny when you see the names he listed as in contention. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6176001
Lady Calypso June 10, 2020 Share June 10, 2020 Honestly, I can't look at Dick's twitter because he's a gross man, and we don't know if he knows anything. Also: 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6176087
Callaphera June 10, 2020 Share June 10, 2020 2 hours ago, peachmangosteen said: So, I'm perusing Dick's twitter because I hate myself and these are the people he's brought up as hearing they are being considered for the cast: Nicole (ew), Swaggy and Bayleigh (no), BB16 Brittany (I don't hate it), Haleigh (I had hoped she was better than this now lol), Josh (I have had to put up with him on back-to-back Challenge seasons, I can't deal with him again!), Paul (WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY), Derrick (OK obviously they are trying to hurt me for some reason), Frankie (lol). I... THEY'RE THE SAME PERSON. I'm not sure my ears could take that level of nasal. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6176192
ByaNose June 10, 2020 Share June 10, 2020 I can’t with Swaggy & Bay. I knows they did the Challenge which I don’t watch. I hope they aren’t asked back. First off, can’t they find real jobs? Secondly, I don’t want them on my BB screen this summer. It’s been a rough winter for everyone but I want nice people on this season. Why can’t I have nice things? 2 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6176200
himela June 10, 2020 Share June 10, 2020 I don't believe for a second bb22 will be All Stars. They just want us to speculate and get excited and then either there will be no season this summer or there will be a short version with new players. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6176242
Nashville June 10, 2020 Share June 10, 2020 5 hours ago, peachmangosteen said: Oh, they're so gonna be on there. No fucking thanks; if I want to watch criminals on tv, I already have C-SPAN. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6176473
IndyMischa June 10, 2020 Share June 10, 2020 7 hours ago, Nashville said: I’ve heard a certain fraudulent couple’s name floating around the SMosphere. I won’t say their names out loud, though; the Universe might hear me. If they end up on the roster, though, trust me - I am SO outta here. 🤬🤬🤬 Clarifying that the green react I used on this post, was for vomit and not surprise... 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6176498
Alice Mudgarden June 10, 2020 Share June 10, 2020 6 hours ago, peachmangosteen said: So, I'm perusing Dick's twitter because I hate myself and these are the people he's brought up as hearing they are being considered for the cast: Nicole (ew), Swaggy and Bayleigh (no), BB16 Brittany (I don't hate it), Haleigh (I had hoped she was better than this now lol), Josh (I have had to put up with him on back-to-back Challenge seasons, I can't deal with him again!), Paul (WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY), Derrick (OK obviously they are trying to hurt me for some reason), Frankie (lol). He said Tyler was asked but he didn't know anything beyond that. Personally, just say no to Tyler and bring back Angela instead. Not both though. Ew. He also said he's only hearing people post BB16 (lol the worst seasons!) and that they're trying to be 'diverse,' which is funny when you see the names he listed as in contention. The majority of this sounds like my own personal hell. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6176594
peachmangosteen June 10, 2020 Share June 10, 2020 4 hours ago, ByaNose said: First off, can’t they find real jobs? How dare you, Swaggy works at the stock market! 4 hours ago, himela said: They just want us to speculate and get excited and then either there will be no season this summer or there will be a short version with new players. I think there just won't be a season this summer. I just don't see how they can really do it. I'm sure they want to but yea I just don't think it's feasible. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6176633
peachmangosteen June 10, 2020 Share June 10, 2020 Andy revealed who he supposedly knows has gotten a call: Derrick, Frankie, Tyler, Dan, Angela, and Kaycee. If this season does end up happening I am 100% gonna hate the entire cast lol. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6176722
peachmangosteen June 10, 2020 Share June 10, 2020 I should add that he gave this list out to people who DMed a receipt of a BLM donation and $27,000 was raised as a result. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6176738
IndyMischa June 10, 2020 Share June 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said: Andy revealed who he supposedly knows has gotten a call: Derrick, Frankie, Tyler, Dan, Angela, and Kaycee. If this season does end up happening I am 100% gonna hate the entire cast lol. Eh, GOD NO, woooo!, woooo!, yay (mostly for Tyler's sake), and woooo! In that order. So, largely good. Which means it won't happen. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6176747
Callaphera June 10, 2020 Share June 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said: Andy revealed who he supposedly knows has gotten a call: Derrick, Frankie, Tyler, Dan, Angela, and Kaycee. Burn it to the fucking ground. Skip this season. Cancel it. I don't care. I will not do another Frankie finding his camera angles season. I barely survived the Zankie bullshit last time. And do we not remember his rape comments about Victoria? I would rather live through a third Paul season. No. No means no, CBS. GTFO with that shit. 2 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6176766
ByaNose June 11, 2020 Share June 11, 2020 2 hours ago, peachmangosteen said: How dare you, Swaggy works at the stock market! I think there just won't be a season this summer. I just don't see how they can really do it. I'm sure they want to but yea I just don't think it's feasible. So Swaggy is a stock broker and/or trader? Who knew? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6176874
peachmangosteen June 11, 2020 Share June 11, 2020 14 hours ago, Callaphera said: I would rather live through a third Paul season [than deal with Frankie again]. I feel like that's where I'm at too and that is really alarming. 13 hours ago, ByaNose said: So Swaggy is a stock broker and/or trader? Who knew? According to him he is lol. That was what his occupation was listed as when he was on BB. That and babysitter, I believe. I don't think he babysits anymore though. 15 hours ago, peachmangosteen said: Andy revealed who he supposedly knows has gotten a call: Derrick, Frankie, Tyler, Dan, Angela, and Kaycee. Quoting myself, but anyway. I just remembered that the first article about this said that most of the people that were called declined so maybe there's still hope lol. I personally don't think there's a chance in hell Dan would do it again. They'd have to give him a ton of money and they don't have any lol. I don't understand why Derrick would want to do it again, but he seems to be someone all the people posting rumors are saying so I don't know. The rest I can see doing it though. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6177441
Callaphera June 11, 2020 Share June 11, 2020 15 hours ago, ByaNose said: So Swaggy is a stock broker and/or trader? Who knew? I think he said in his season intro that he was a day trader/babysitter and a bunch of us cracked jokes that he couldn't be a very good day trader if he was supplementing his income with child care services. I totally missed my opportunity here to crack a "No, Swaggy works stocking shelves at the supermarket!" joke. 2 hours ago, peachmangosteen said: I don't understand why Derrick would want to do it again, but he seems to be someone all the people posting rumors are saying so I don't know. Derrick has always said that he'll never come back to play again - which is sad because I'd love to see what would happen if he played with a competent, semi-intelligent group (c'mon, half of BB16 could barely tie their shoes without adult supervision) and couldn't use the "FOOD. FROM MY DAUGHTER'S MOUTH." accusation whenever someone did something he wasn't fond of. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6177646
threebluestars June 11, 2020 Share June 11, 2020 I want a season of Donny, Nicole and Kevin. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6177799
lasu June 11, 2020 Share June 11, 2020 Honestly, I think if they were going to do an all star cast, they might be rethinking it since all the lights are getting turned on. They'd be hard pressed to assemble a cast who doesn't have some questionable shit in their pasts, either on their seasons or their social media. As much as I love this show, it really is remarkable in its ability to find truly awful people, and no one is in the mood for that right now (or hopefully ever again). Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6177859
RandomWatcher June 11, 2020 Share June 11, 2020 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6178013
Alice Mudgarden June 11, 2020 Share June 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, RandomWatcher said: WAT. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6178021
Growsonwalls June 11, 2020 Share June 11, 2020 Holy shit that is nuts. I'm glad Will contacted the police. I had wondered why he made his instagram just professional, now I get why. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6178026
Callaphera June 11, 2020 Share June 11, 2020 ...sooooo, Boogie for BBUS AS2 confirmed? I'd say he went 'round the bend but I think he had already turned that corner a long time ago. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6178079
peachmangosteen June 11, 2020 Share June 11, 2020 Damn. I have no words. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6178080
Alice Mudgarden June 11, 2020 Share June 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, Callaphera said: ...sooooo, Boogie for BBUS AS2 confirmed? I'd say he went 'round the bend but I think he had already turned that corner a long time ago. This long distance dedication goes out to Mike Malin. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6178101
IndyMischa June 11, 2020 Share June 11, 2020 I was just coming here to post this. You've got to read that whole Twitter chain - there are a bunch of screencap from the court filing, detailing Boogie's threats. It is bonkers, and he legit needs psychiatric help. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6178115
peachmangosteen June 11, 2020 Share June 11, 2020 Yea, at first I was like lol but then I read the whole thread and it is terrifying. He clearly needs professional help. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6178120
Lady Calypso June 11, 2020 Share June 11, 2020 Holy crap. Those are disturbing. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6178166
HartofDixie June 12, 2020 Share June 12, 2020 On 6/10/2020 at 1:37 PM, ByaNose said: I can’t with Swaggy & Bay. I knows they did the Challenge which I don’t watch. I hope they aren’t asked back. First off, can’t they find real jobs? Secondly, I don’t want them on my BB screen this summer. It’s been a rough winter for everyone but I want nice people on this season. Why can’t I have nice things? Swaggy has a job he’s a rich day trader and if you want to trade sign up for his course. 🙄 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6178249
TimWil June 12, 2020 Share June 12, 2020 (edited) I hope, if they manage to pull this off, it’s revealed that America votes for the evicted HG this time. I think this would be the perfect season to do that. Gotta get people motivated to vote, hint, hint. Edited June 12, 2020 by TimWil 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6178384
RandomWatcher June 12, 2020 Share June 12, 2020 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6178488
Callaphera June 12, 2020 Share June 12, 2020 Hot take, hot take over here. Uh... it didn't work, Jackhole. Go eat some more chips in the shower and fade back into obscurity. kthxbai 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6178539
Lady Calypso June 12, 2020 Share June 12, 2020 Convenient that he's posting this now, during a possible All Stars.... And also hilarious that he keeps nodding and shaking his head, as if he can't decide if he's for BLM or not. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6178558
Callaphera June 12, 2020 Share June 12, 2020 What's next, Jackhole #2 boasting about how much he loves Asian people while eating a bowl of rice pudding? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6178615
HartofDixie June 12, 2020 Share June 12, 2020 ED saying Josh, Swaggy, Bayleigh are on. I think Jackson might be on hence that video - hope they order enough watermelon! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6178676
BK1978 June 12, 2020 Share June 12, 2020 You know who I would love to see back, but they would never ask back? BB5 Marvin. That guy was awesome, plus his final question to Cowboy was hilarious. "Are you a lying racist, or a racist lair?" To which Cowboy replied, I am paraphrasing here, "That's not true, I've got cousins that are Chinese." 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6178736
Nashville June 12, 2020 Share June 12, 2020 5 hours ago, RandomWatcher said: Strange, but I seem to remember his head as being slightly more... ginormous.... Go back in your Jackson hole, Watermelon Man. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6178824
peachmangosteen June 12, 2020 Share June 12, 2020 6 hours ago, Nashville said: Strange, but I seem to remember his head as being slightly more... ginormous.... It's gotta be the angle because yea, his head is way bigger than it appears there lol. I want some news from CBS or Julie about this soon because I need to know whether or not this is happening, dammit! 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6179043
RandomWatcher June 12, 2020 Share June 12, 2020 He's gotta be trolling everyone right? 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6179337
Lady Calypso June 12, 2020 Share June 12, 2020 2 hours ago, RandomWatcher said: He's gotta be trolling everyone right? Absolutely. I don't think he knows shit, and is only posting these for attention. All he needs to do is throw out a few well known names, either popular or hated, and wait for the feuds to start. And it's working way too well for my liking. I'd need to hear from another alumni for me to buy it. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6179565
threebluestars June 12, 2020 Share June 12, 2020 My dreams for BB: - A cast of all people voted out first or second. I always feel bad for them. - A cast of all minorities. - A cast all over the age of 30. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6179607
Growsonwalls June 12, 2020 Share June 12, 2020 Two early boots I'd like to see play the game again: I'd actually like to see Dominic (BB13) play the game again. In BB13 he didn't know much about the game, was completely love-sick over Daniele (for good reason -- they got married shortly after the show was over), and was booted because BB13's partners twist sucked. I'm sort of curious how he'd play the game again. His wife Daniele could give him pointers. The other early boot I'd like to see play again was Brittany in BB16. Nice girl, decent sense of game, but Derrick decided she wasn't a part of the Bomb Squad and that was that. Others I wouldn't mind seeing play again: Winston -- pretty nice guy, just happened to be low man on the Level 6 totem pole. Kemi from last season -- again, targeted because the house was racist. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6179726
Lady Calypso June 12, 2020 Share June 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Growsonwalls said: Two early boots I'd like to see play the game again: I'd actually like to see Dominic (BB13) play the game again. In BB13 he didn't know much about the game, was completely love-sick over Daniele (for good reason -- they got married shortly after the show was over), and was booted because BB13's partners twist sucked. I'm sort of curious how he'd play the game again. His wife Daniele could give him pointers. The other early boot I'd like to see play again was Brittany in BB16. Nice girl, decent sense of game, but Derrick decided she wasn't a part of the Bomb Squad and that was that. Others I wouldn't mind seeing play again: Winston -- pretty nice guy, just happened to be low man on the Level 6 totem pole. Kemi from last season -- again, targeted because the house was racist. Agreed. To add to this: BB21 David - I feel like he got unlucky, rather than doing anything wrong. He had the best insights pre-jury and think he would do well. BB15 Nick - Ok, I get why they'll never likely bring a BB15 player back, but Nick is one in....four that I would not mind see again (the others being Candice, Elissa and maybe Andy). He got out before the worst of the problems started and I thought he could have been a decent player besides his cockiness with his failed alliance lol. BB16 Amber - Who I thought was completely screwed the moment Creepmode Stalkboy.....I mean Beastmode Cowboy set his sights on her. I think she had some decent insights and she just was never able to play because she had to spend her time refuting Creepmode's advances. BB19 Cameron - Just because I was half intrigued and half annoyed with him so I wonder how I'd feel about him on another season. He got very lucky with getting booted early. Also, this isn't an early boot but another top player I want to see again: BB12 Matt - If I haven't expressed that this guy was my first favourite player, I'll say it again. Seeing as BB12 was my first season, I enjoyed Matt from the start and think he played a solid game. I'd love to see him return. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6179758
Callaphera June 12, 2020 Share June 12, 2020 (edited) I mean, I wouldn't hate it. (Unfortunately, further up in her feed, she says she's probably not going to tweet about Big Brother when it's on because the fans are just too toxic because BB fans ruin everything so her showing up on AS2 is unlikely.) (Most of us here are okay.) (And then there's me.) Edited June 12, 2020 by Callaphera 5 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6179759
Alice Mudgarden June 12, 2020 Share June 12, 2020 All this BB All-Stars 2 talk is just the kind of mess worthy of anything Big Brother. 1 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6179778
Callaphera June 12, 2020 Share June 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Alice Mudgarden said: All this BB All-Stars 2 talk is just the kind of mess worthy of anything Big Brother. Honestly, all I needed was a whiff of a season and a couple of tweets and I'm already in full BB Nancy Drew mode. What, you're not supposed to check Big Brother related hashtags on Twitter every twenty minutes to make sure you don't miss any developments? ...this is totally healthy, right? 4 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6179782
Lady Calypso June 12, 2020 Share June 12, 2020 On the plus side, this is the perfect 10th anniversary for me! An All Stars/Mostly All Stars season during the 10th year I've been watching this show. So now I gotta figure out how to celebrate! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6179799
peachmangosteen June 12, 2020 Share June 12, 2020 2 hours ago, threebluestars said: A cast of all people voted out first or second. I always feel bad for them. I feel super bad for all the ones that were booted before they even had a full day in there lol. 16 minutes ago, Alice Mudgarden said: All this BB All-Stars 2 talk is just the kind of mess worthy of anything Big Brother. Right! Like I said, it's very comforting. 12 minutes ago, Callaphera said: Honestly, all I needed was a whiff of a season and a couple of tweets and I'm already in full BB Nancy Drew mode. What, you're not supposed to check Big Brother related hashtags on Twitter every twenty minutes to make sure you don't miss any developments? ...this is totally healthy, right? I've gone off the deep end. I mean, I check Dick's twitter daily. I've even checked reddit for fuck's sake! I hate myself but also I'm having a ball. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6179809
peachmangosteen June 12, 2020 Share June 12, 2020 This seems like he's probably talking about Derrick and Dan. $40K, that's it lol? And some US Weekly writer said this: Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6797-bb-in-the-media-outside-the-fishbowl/page/64/#findComment-6179817
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