S07.E11: Unconfuse Your Brain

[druzy]

Amber and Andrew have a disagreement.

Ryan is furious at Maci when she shows up late to trick-or-treat.

Farrah is shocked when she finds out who Deb invited to her wedding.

Catelynn surprises her family with her pregnancy.

[GreatKazu]

Where do I begin? 

Give me a moment. lol 

[FlowerofCarnage]

Didn't Ryan show up several hours late to Trick-or-Treating one year or two?

Edited February 8, 2018 by FlowerofCarnage

[GreatKazu]

7 minutes ago, FlowerofCarnage said:

Didn't Ryan show up several hours late to Trick-or-Treating or year or two?

Ryan is always late. He was likely born past his due date. 

I wonder why Maci changed the time at the last minute (going by the sneak peek)? 

 

1 hour ago, druzy said:

Amber and Andrew have a disagreement.

Ryan is furious at Maci when she shows up late to trick-or-treat.

Farrah is shocked when she finds out who Deb invited to her wedding.

Catelynn surprises her family with her pregnancy.

Andrew speaks his mind which causes Mt. Fuji Amber to explode. 

Ryan is furious at Maci for changing the Halloween plans at the last minute.

Farrah is pissed when Deb invites all of her daughter's enemies to her perverted wedding to David. 

Catelynn surprises her family by telling them they will have another child to raise. 

[FairyDusted]

That's more like it!

[woodscommaelle]

If Amber wanted to go to a haunted house they should have swung by Butch's place. What the fuck was going on there? 

Oh and Amber is disgusting in every sense of the word. 

Edited February 13, 2018 by woodscommaelle

[FairyDusted]

Did I have another stoke or did they sneak in a new Teen Momish show?! Noooooooo

[cereality]

I know it's not all men by any means but watching Ryan it is shocking how quick men can get over their own kids and yet be soooooo concerned about the kid of some women who will be their wife for 2 yrs max. So Maci and Taylor are late for ToT -- so what -- there were years where Ryan just didn't show.  So Ryan and Mac must start RIGHT THEN with "Huddles" bc he MUST go to HIS dad by 6. Take a hint Ryan -- your wife is concerned about HER son being with HIS dad. So why don't you find some concern for YOUR son. Nope. He MUST leave with Mac bc of Huddles so he basically leaves the second Bentley arrives. He literally doesn't even interact with Bentley, say anything about his costume, no conversation nothing. The only reason they have an interaction is bc Maci says to Bentley -- give your Dad a hug . . . . If he cared he could have stayed behind and ToTed with Bentley, Maci and family and his parents and his wife could've left with her son and I'm sure someone would've given Ryan a ride home after.

And a few min prior where he was bitching at his mom about ToT starting late she says -- Bentley needs to see you and you need to see him. And he snaps at her on the phone -- don't start with me about needing to see him. Well son -- if we don't tell you to interact with your 9 yr old, you don't so I thought I'd remind you . . . .  I flipped back from a commercial late and it seemed like Jen was bitching to Larry and saying -- I'm pissed at both of them (presumably Ryan and Mac?) with Larry saying-- don't egg him on . . . . Is it THAT big of a deal that Maci was late? She has 3 kids -- people with multiple young kids tend to run late and it was still bright sunlight when she arrives -- she was probably an hr late max, whereas he was acting like she showed up a 10 pm.

Edited February 13, 2018 by cereality

[Ajb1112]

WTF is Amber's problem? Psycho bitch. I felt bad for Andrew. 

[Lynnlynnlynn586]

Amber did freak out wow!!

[ThatNewGirl]

Amber..............................this is why you should probably know the guy you are having a kid with a little longer than a month or two.

Plus, you're acting like a spoiled brat of a child. 

"I'm stressed so I have to get my way."

GTFO.

[ThatNewGirl]

Poor Butch. :(

[FairyDusted]

Ohhhh Boy…Butch called out his daughter for being a shitty parent. That's incredibly sad. 

[poeticlicensed]

I thought the haunted hayride looked pretty awesome, if you go for that kind of thing. 

[cereality]

Um geniuses -- Bentley's siblings at Maci's house are his half siblings because they all have the same mom. The sibling at your house "-- Huddles" is merely a step sibling that he's known for what 3 months? 6 months max? Give it a rest . . . .

And no Ryan this isn't killing Bentley. He is fine bc he has a really stable home with Maci and Taylor and his brother and sister and I think both sets of grandparents to some extent. He doesn't give you too many passing thoughts -- mostly bc he likely gets excited about seeing you and then when he does -- you either ignore him (Halloween) or you mock him (his birthday/Christmas sweater).

And WTF is up with Tyler's sister? Is she a disaster like the rest of the family - as Tyler goes over there and the power has been disconnected probably bc the bill hasn't been paid and then later Butch is crying about her kids have nothing to eat and he's worrying they'll starve without him. WTH does she do that she can't afford food and utilities? I know money is no object due to a decade of Teen Mom money but damn I would not spend 48k for Butch's rehab. The man has been in and out of prison and rehab his whole life and continues to be a user -- what does this 48k program offer that the others didn't? Send him somewhere cheap and free and save your money so maybe you can send your daughter away to college and get her out of the cycle of dysfunction/poverty/drugs in your family.

[ClassyCourtHeels]

Who the hell trick or treats at 5pm????

 

People are still getting off work and getting dinner.

 

No all our jobs are sitting on our ass doing nothing productive all day Ryan and Mac.

[ThatNewGirl]

1 minute ago, ClassyCourtHeels said:

Who the hell trick or treats at 5pm????

 

People are still getting off work and getting dinner.

 

No all our jobs are sitting on our ass doing nothing productive all day Ryan and Mac.

Unfortunately there are places that have a curfew for treat or treating. Where I live, it starts at 4:30 and is supposed to end and sundown! How stupid!

[ClassyCourtHeels]

16 minutes ago, Ajb1112 said:

WTF is Amber's problem? Psycho bitch. I felt bad for Andrew. 

I don’t 

 

He saw her and how she acted at marriage boot camp. Judging by the previews she’s even more crazy on that show 

[TexasGal]

I know it’s expecting too much to want Amber to just say she wanted to know if it was a boy or girl and have a normal conversation about it.  But this bs about gender neutral is some crazy hippie thing - like, what!?  Really?  Wow.

[lgprimes]

So much to snark on!

First of all, hell is now icy because I actually agreed with Farrah. Deb is just delusional.

Tyler’s sister looked like every heroin addict I’ve ever seen in photographs. Wow. There’s the person who should be going to rehab. Those poor kids. I wanted to call CPS and tell them to turn on MTV.

And in the last piece of “I can’t believe I’m thinking this”, I actually felt very sorry for Andrew. As much as I know he clearly is a famewhore jumping on the TeenMom gravy train, he clearly is too smart and normal to enjoy spending time with Amber. There is no way he will make enough money from this to compensate for the misery he had to endure. Gawd she’s a she-devil.

[GreatKazu]

4 minutes ago, lgprimes said:

So much to snark on!

First of all, hell is now icy because I actually agreed with Farrah. Deb is just delusional.

Tyler’s sister looked like every heroin addict I’ve ever seen in photographs. Wow. There’s the person who should be going to rehab. Those poor kids. I wanted to call CPS and tell them to turn on MTV.

And in the last piece of “I can’t believe I’m thinking this”, I actually felt very sorry for Andrew. As much as I know he clearly is a famewhore jumping on the TeenMom gravy train, he clearly is too smart and normal to enjoy spending time with Amber. There is no way he will make enough money from this to compensate for the misery he had to endure. Gawd she’s a she-devil.

Too smart? He watched Amber go all Hulk on Marriage Boot Camp against Matt and still he went after her. He deserves everything he gets from wanting to mooch off of Amber Alert, and I don't mean film equipment. 

Edited February 13, 2018 by GreatKazu

[FlowerofCarnage]

Anyone care to speculate what Tyler's sister drug of choice is? Boy, did she look rough! So she is neglecting her kids, leaving Butch to help take care of them? 

I say this as a child of an addict:

No way am I going to fork over 50 grand for someone who constantly relapses. 

 

I'd feel bad for Ryan if I knew that he actually gave a damn about Bentley. How many times has Ryan showed up late or not at all?  All that huffing and puffing was him caring more about "his ride" than spending  time as a blended family.

 

Well, Slumber, maybe you should get to know a guy 's views on childbirth and child-rearing before you get pregnant by him! 

[Linny]

The editors were brilliantly cruel to play Michael's quote about "brushing her hair out but it still looks like a frigging rag" while the camera focused on Sophia. Obviously Michael was talking about the pony, but I still laughed. Deb and her wedding guest list of tertiary TM nobodies is so pathetic. I don't know why Deb resorts to these desperate bids for attention but it makes me uncomfortable and sad for her. And once again, Farrah should disengage and let her mom carry on in her own way, yelling at her accomplishes nothing.

$48000 spent on a 90 day rehab facility for a lifelong habitual addict, wow, just wow. I can't imagine making that kind of sacrifice for someone like Butch who has squandered all previous help with his addiction, but I guess Tyler can't give up hope that he can help his dad. What is wrong with Tyler's sister? She seems especially scattered, and it must be bad if Butch feels like he needs to shoulder some of her responsibilities to help his grandkids.

I'm so bored by Maci and Ryan constantly bitching about each other. It's way past time for Maci to cut out Jen as the intermediary and talk to Ryan herself. I don't care if Maci thinks it will be difficult to communicate with Ryan, she's a grown woman with a husband and three kids, she needs to buckle up and figure out how to make it work. Hudson is adorable but I definitely think Mackenzie was playing up the siblings angle, I doubt Hudson sees Bentley enough to be overly attached to him.

So Andrew and Amber disagree on multiple aspects of her pregnancy, and they resolve those disagreements by Amber harshly haranguing him until he quiets out of submission. Yep, these people are certainly ready for the stress of a new baby on top of the pressure of settling into a new relationship, I'm sure everything will be smooth sailing from here on out!!! For real, though, heaven help this child for coming into the world with volatile Amber as its mother, life's not going to be easy navigating her mood swings.

[MissMel]

Damn.  Butch and Tyler made me sad.  I'm hardcore on Tyler because I can't stand his little prick ass but damn if he isn't stuck in between a rock and a hard space.  No wonder he's starting to crack.  His cracked out sister is living rent free, I'm sure, in his house with her kids and their dad, and then poor-me-ing about the lights being cut off.  Then his dad is feeling guilty because the kids might starve?  and Tyler is willing to pay $48,000 for his rehab?!  I'd be losing it too with my wife claiming to be pregnant and remodeling another house.  Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind having the money to pay for all these problems but I wouldn't want the problems to begin with. 

Tough spot for the kid and it was sad to see.  Damn.

[TeeMo]

I can almost always find something to snark on this show but the scenes tonight with Tyler, Butch and Tyler's sister and her kids really just hit me hard. The sister clearly has something pretty terrible going on herself, likely addiction. The house is a disaster. The kids were desperate to see and hug Tyler probably because he is one of the few functioning people in their lives. Butch starts having second thoughts about rehab because he is worried about the grandkids going hungry. And Tyler looked like he was just trying to distance himself from all of it the whole time to protect himself. I know he is a giant ass these days and has been for a while, but man do I find it hard not to feel sorry for him when I think about the horror show of his childhood and the difficulty of dealing with an addict as a parent as an adult. You could sense how physically uncomfortable Tyler was walking into that house to get Butch. It's as if he keeps buying "dream house" after dream house in an attempt to escape the horrors of his childhood but then he lets his effed up family members stay in the dream houses he abandons and going back there just reminds him that all the MTV money and "fame" in the world is not going to change his past. It breaks my heart. Butch is a disaster too and I often find it hard to feel badly for him but every now and again you can see him grapple with how his addiction has affected the lives of the people around him and it is very, very sad. Tonight was one of those nights. 

Catelynn and Tyler are never going to escape the patterns and dysfunction of their upbringings as long as they keep living where they are. As terrible as it is to say they really should have taken their MTV money at 17 and 18 and left all of these people behind and started new lives for themselves somewhere else far away. Ugh. 

Edited February 13, 2018 by TeeMo

[Emmierose]

Were my eyes playing tricks or was one of Tyler’s sister’s kids walking around on the counter in the kitchen of the “lights out crack house”?  

Also fuck Amber’s stank bitch face while tearing NuMatt a new asshole over him having the NERVE to give any input on finding out the sex of THEIR baby and making suggestions on maybe keeping things gender neutral.  Oh no, Mother Of The Year needs to prepare for the new baby.  Ya know, like she prepared for Leah by throwing a crib mattress into a crib without sheets.  Yeah, like that.  

And for the love of all that is holy, ENOUGH with that hamburger patty bun on the top of Amber’s two tone head.   

Edited February 13, 2018 by Emmierose

[TeeMo]

8 minutes ago, Emmierose said:

Were my eyes playing tricks or was one of Tyler’s sister’s kids walking around on the counter in the kitchen of the “lights out crack house”?  

No, I saw that too and wondered if I was just seeing something wrong because it was a crazy scene in there in general. 

[MissMel]

Your eyes didn't lie.  That happened.

[Emkat]

Can anyone summarize the previews for the next episode? My DVR always cuts off! Thanks!!

[poeticlicensed]

Geez it's like maci, Ryan and Mac are just looking for reasons to be pissed. Hudson is Mack's son, not Bentleys brother. Why couldnt Mack take Hudson to his dad and Ryan could stay with Bentley? What am I missing? 

Amber wants bread, butter and pasta. She's gonna need another mommy makeover. 

[GreatKazu]

2 minutes ago, Emkat said:

Can anyone summarize the previews for the next episode? My DVR always cuts off! Thanks!!

Does your DVR allow you to add a minute or two to the episode while recording? I always add a minute to the recording time so I can catch the previews. 

2 minutes ago, poeticlicensed said:

Geez it's like maci, Ryan and Mac are just looking for reasons to be pissed. Hudson is Mack's son, not Bentleys brother. Why couldnt Mack take Hudson to his dad and Ryan could stay with Bentley? What am I missing? 

 

Maci has to work hard for those fake storylines. 

[FairyDusted]

I hate clowns. Fuck those clowns!

[CofCinci]

Maybe if Tyler paid for college for his sister instead of breast implants, her life would be different. 

[WhosThatGirl]

1 hour ago, ThatNewGirl said:

Unfortunately there are places that have a curfew for treat or treating. Where I live, it starts at 4:30 and is supposed to end and sundown! How stupid!

Yeah trick or treating in my area begins at 4:30 and ends at 7. When I was a kid and trick or treating there was no curfew. On one hand I get it, The world is different but on the other hand, it really is a limited time when you think about it.

[Maire]

The look on Andrew's face as the truth of his future with Amber dawned on him was priceless. Hope it's worth it to drive the Range Rover and be a short order cook for Amber.

[LotusFlower]

53 minutes ago, Emkat said:

Can anyone summarize the previews for the next episode? My DVR always cuts off! Thanks!!

The best part?  Ryan’s drunk at his wedding!  They show a quick clip of Ryan and Mackenzie walking down the aisle, Mackenzie says: you’re drunk, and Ryan says: mmhmm (nodding yes).  

So - high at their first wedding, and drunk at their second!  (or was he stoned, and Mackenzie just said “drunk” to avoid talk of heroin?). That Ryan - what a catch!

Edited February 13, 2018 by LotusFlower

[Marisagf]

2 hours ago, cereality said:

I know it's not all men by any means but watching Ryan it is shocking how quick men can get over their own kids and yet be soooooo concerned about the kid of some women who will be their wife for 2 yrs max. So Maci and Taylor are late for ToT -- so what -- there were years where Ryan just didn't show.  So Ryan and Mac must start RIGHT THEN with "Huddles" bc he MUST go to HIS dad by 6. Take a hint Ryan -- your wife is concerned about HER son being with HIS dad. So why don't you find some concern for YOUR son. Nope. He MUST leave with Mac bc of Huddles so he basically leaves the second Bentley arrives. He literally doesn't even interact with Bentley, say anything about his costume, no conversation nothing. The only reason they have an interaction is bc Maci says to Bentley -- give your Dad a hug . . . . If he cared he could have stayed behind and ToTed with Bentley, Maci and family and his parents and his wife could've left with her son and I'm sure someone would've given Ryan a ride home after.

And a few min prior where he was bitching at his mom about ToT starting late she says -- Bentley needs to see you and you need to see him. And he snaps at her on the phone -- don't start with me about needing to see him. Well son -- if we don't tell you to interact with your 9 yr old, you don't so I thought I'd remind you . . . .  I flipped back from a commercial late and it seemed like Jen was bitching to Larry and saying -- I'm pissed at both of them (presumably Ryan and Mac?) with Larry saying-- don't egg him on . . . . Is it THAT big of a deal that Maci was late? She has 3 kids -- people with multiple young kids tend to run late and it was still bright sunlight when she arrives -- she was probably an hr late max, whereas he was acting like she showed up a 10 pm.

 

And Larry said something like, "....he doesn't know any better..." before Jen continued her griping about Ryan.  

Gee...I wonder why he sucks at being an adult?

2 hours ago, woodscommaelle said:

If Amber wanted to go to a haunted house they should have swung by Butch's place. What the fuck was going on there? 

 

 

My thought exactly about Casa Butch and Amber Baltierra!  What a house of horrors that place was!

Edited February 13, 2018 by Marisagf

[Marisagf]

1 hour ago, TexasGal said:

I know it’s expecting too much to want Amber to just say she wanted to know if it was a boy or girl and have a normal conversation about it.  But this bs about gender neutral is some crazy hippie thing - like, what!?  Really?  Wow.

Not to mention that for many, many years, mothers carried babies and were never able to find out the gender because the techology didn't exist.  And they seemed to plan for their babies just fine.

[FrankieTankie]

For someone who says she doesn’t care about what her mom does Farrah sure exhausts a lot of energy into whatever her mom does. Farrah is a worthless human being .... I swear she made up 4 or 5 new words on her FaceTime rant with crazy deb .... I also loved her humble brag about how she’s changed more than any person she’s ever known... there’s nothing more cringe worthy than watching a dumb person trying to sound smart .... sorry Farrah you are trash and you’re as dumb as a box of rock oh and your daughter still looks like an unkempt muskrat 

 

The No Chin bandit sure hit the lottery marrying good ol dead eyes .... he looks like he’s auditioning for Weekend at Bernie’s 3 ... 

 

these middle aged women should be kept from reproducing.... everyone knows they’re just having kids to keep the MTV welfare check rolling in... 

 

Is it me or does it always look like Matt 2.0 smelled a fart .... dude is a full on Chubacca stunt double 

[GreatKazu]

Amber always has something to criticize people about. She slams Gary for living in "the ghetto" and being a landlord. She slammed him when they were a couple left and right. Tonight, she goes in on Baby Huey with all this hippie jibber jabber. I really have no fucks to give about what she says to Baby Huey, it is just my observation of Amber and how she is so sarcastic and takes these jabs at people. 

During that flashback, did I hear Jenelle say "paraphernalia" with a hard P sound instead of an F sound? 

@FairyDusted take note. Another one. 

Edited February 13, 2018 by GreatKazu

[FairyDusted]

Shit! Now I have to re watch with sound! @GreatKazu! Cuz ya know I can't let that go! *hold this*

 

She mangled it. It should be a word in her limited vocabulary. 

Edited February 13, 2018 by FairyDusted
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[druzy]

Was Butch walking through the house with a Candelabra? I'm a fan of flashlights- but to each his own. 

[StatisticalOutlier]

2 hours ago, Emmierose said:

Oh no, Mother Of The Year needs to prepare for the new baby.  Ya know, like she prepared for Leah by throwing a crib mattress into a crib without sheets.  Yeah, like that. 

I guess she needs to know whether the sheets she doesn't use should be pink or blue.

 

2 hours ago, lgprimes said:

Tyler’s sister looked like every heroin addict I’ve ever seen in photographs.

I thought I'd accidentally switched to an episode of Intervention.  What is it with female addicts and hoods?

 

Just now, druzy said:

Was Butch walking through the house with a Candelabra? I'm a fan of flashlights- but to each his own. 

But weren't there lights on in the kitchen?  Or were they using battery-operated lights down there?  The whole things was crazy, but I did enjoy the image of Butch carrying what looked to be a fancy plastic candelabra.

 

Also, I noticed that Farrah is driving a Maserati.  She's come a long way from being scammed over a Focus, I believe it was. 

[FairyDusted]

Damn it! I've got to quit taking smoke breaks!

[LotusFlower]

44 minutes ago, druzy said:

Was Butch walking through the house with a Candelabra? I'm a fan of flashlights- but to each his own. 

I had just watched “Victoria” on PBS, and they were doing the same thing at Buckingham Palace and at a castle in Scotland.  In Victorian England in the 1800’s!  Butch with a candelabra in a crack den in Michigan with no electricity because they couldn’t pay the ConEd bill was the strangest thing I’ve ever seen.  

[TodayBot]

Damn, that segment of Tyler at his old house that's now apparently on it's way to being made into a trap house was hard to watch.  I didn't realize it was so bad with his family.  

[LotusFlower]

37 minutes ago, TodayBot said:

Damn, that segment of Tyler at his old house that's now apparently on it's way to being made into a trap house was hard to watch.  I didn't realize it was so bad with his family.  

And notice how they juxtaposed that scene with talk of the expensive rehab.  So many in the cast of both shows have been to rehab, and they’ve never talked about the cost.  But they made sure to tell Tyler to bring up whose paying for it when Butch was talking about going, and then they had him film a scene getting all the price quotes.  I thought that was gross.  MTV uses and exploits them as kids, then pays them an extraordinary amount of money year after year and treats them like stars, then watches as their money creates family conflicts.

[LoveMyVike]

My GOD! Ryan and Mack HATE their life together and they only thing they have to direct that at is Maci. She's "playing the damn victim"? Ok Ryan.... And Mack should really concentrate on matching that clip on hair better. 

Gary is spitting some TRUTH this episode!!! He's so happy to be on the outside, looking in. Poor Leah had to comfort her mom at the haunted house. Amber needed to make it all about her, as usual. New Matt is so hard on the eyes, not to mention, awkward as hell. 

[druzy]

NuMatt can talk about his raw food diet all the livelong day-he's broke and he's a joke.  He puts on airs. He knew exactly what Amber was referring to when she said poor food. He doesn't own any real estate in Malibu. His parents may have owned a home in Malibu but he never did. He is not a "Trust Fund Kid" with a tab at Vineyard Vines. He doesn't have a job. He's a fraud.

I needed to get that off my chest. 

[Calm81]

My husband catches me watching this shit show live for the very first time (I usually watch on my phone while in the laundry room folding - I don’t want people knowing I watch this) by walking into the living room to look for his company laptop and looks at the screen during Ambers “hippy bullshit” rant and he goes....”gawd daammmmmnnnn (in his Negan voice TWD) that is one annoying ugly bitch!!! What’s her fucking problem?”

I said “they’re expecting a new baby and the boyfriend is excited to shop for gender neutral clothes hoping to keep the gender a surprise but the pregnant chic thinks they need to know the gender to plan better”

He said “that dudes life is over” I then explained to him that some of the men she dates are with her because of a huge television check she gets ...he just cut me off and said “she could have Oprah money and I wouldn’t deal with her stupid ass and her dog poop hairstyle.” He left the room NEVER asking the name of the show so I can still keep this show a secret. ???

ETA: My hubby doesn’t like to swear much, but something about Amber brought it out of him. She brings out the best in people. ?

Edited February 13, 2018 by Calm81