Season 5 Discussion

[CofCinci]

2 minutes ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

I almost feel like we’re eavesdropping on a private conversation.  I feel kinda weird watching. 

And then the camera filming on the floor of the lingerie shop dressing room while she tried on lingerie. Creepy!

[eggsnbacon]

2 minutes ago, Adeejay said:

I think Nikki's anger should be directed to her husband, instead of David.  Clearly, those two had a conversation to which she wasn't privy. 

Oh I think they have talked in private, she is too direct of a personality to not have talked to him

[Frozendiva]

Evelymn, fun fact. Women wear nice lingerie whether or not they are seeing someone/having sex. They enjoy feeling pretty and sexy. Nice of you to cut your friend/soon to be former friend by reveling in that you will be having sex. So what.

You certainly come across as an entitled womanchild with a stick in her butt.

Both her and her spouse to be need to have a talk about children,  birth control for both of you, etc.

David Poor, go to Kentucky and find a job. You do like to mooch off your friends. They will want to be repaid, with interest.

Nicole, start being a mother to your child and grow up before asking Azan to step up as a father.

[Drogo]

The David and Chris dynamic...?

Seems like David must know where all the bodies are buried. 

[Arwen Evenstar]

Luis REALLY does not like that little girl!!!

[Emmeline]

Maybe if Nicole wasn’t in bed with Mae until 3:00 in the afternoon, the child would sleep 8 hours through the night.  I realize Mae’s all out of wack because of the time change and she’s in a strange place, but why is she waking up screaming multiple times at night at the age of 3?

[Arwen Evenstar]

Molly has 3 kids now.

[Chickabiddy]

Elizabeth's dad looks like a barrel on top of two toothpicks, and he sounds like a petulant bratty barrel at that. "You didn't ask me or follow my tradition of asking my permission to marry my 27 year old adult daughter, so I am not going to help pay for her wedding." Talk about taking your toys and going home. I have to say that Andrei handled the barrel like a boss. Father Elizabeth was expecting some kind of heated confrontation and Andrei resolutely refused to feed the troll.  I just love how he is speeding up the timetable to get married quicker so he can work. Ha. Flip the script on Libby's dad, much? Whisk her out of daddy's orbit even sooner. Her dad also seems to have an over inflated sense of his little girl's value on the marriage market. She is a cute girl, but she is hardly an oil painting. She doesn't appear to have much education or a great career. Hate to break it to you, Father Libby, but Andrei is a fine catch for your youngest issue. Seems like the gene pool was shallowing out by your last spawn. I do like Libby, but Andrei is a fine catch for her. And they are really cute together. Loved how he complimented her after their run. 

I love how Annie said with such confidence that Chris would have to take care of her if David couldn't. Girlfriend, you CAN get a job, too, and support yourself. Nikki has every right to set some ground rules on that score. And wow, Chris is a real prince. "I didn't lie to her, I just didn't tell her everything. " Ugh! Nikki you are far too pretty and together to put up with that bullshit. 

Luis is picking on Kensley like that bratty motherfucker he is. And there is that fucking Molly making excuses to her daughter for Luis' shitty treatment of her. It really makes me sad to think that Luis is going to have a blast needling and bullying those girls. It's sport to him. What a sad sack. 

[puppytoes]

I am shocked to find out that Nicole’s kid, May is 3:  is anyone else shocked to find this out?  She seems to be underdeveloped mentally.  She doesn’t speak in full sentences.  I feel sorry for the poor kid.

[Toodleoo]

On 12/1/2017 at 8:00 PM, CofCinci said:

And Evelyn cannot sing!

Indeed. On the More to Love version of this ep some music "professional" was saying Evelyn had a unique sound...hooker please, she is a 753rd rate Sarah McLachlan.

 

And I like Sarah McLachlan.

[Chickabiddy]

Just now, puppytoes said:

I am shocked to find out that Nicole’s kid, May is 3:  is anyone else shocked to find this out?  She seems to be underdeveloped mentally.  She doesn’t speak in full sentences.  I feel sorry for the poor kid.

Totally. But then again, that is what constant tablet and fries get you. May needs more mental stimulation, physical activity, and better nutrition. At three, she should not need to be changed at night. Three years olds have occasional accidents, but she should be able to make it through the night. Naturally, I blame Nicole. Parenting is hard. And Jabba the Blond don't have time for that. She has a rigorous sleep schedule to maintain. It's really hard, don't ya know?

[Schadenfreulein]

Libby’s father is almost acting like a jilted suitor the way he’s pouting about not having been asked for permission to marry his daughter or “advice” - whatever that means to him. 

[TonyasBlueEyeshado]

Fun fact, Evil-ya. Women wear bras every day, not just to do the unskinny bop. Part of having... oh, wait, never mind. I understand why you’ve never seen a brassiere before. I loved the gleeful “This stuff is all for sex!” just after panning the racks of footie pajamas, house coats, and lunch lady bras. Sure!

 

I noticed a few weeks ago, and another poster mentioned... As a teacher, I would not be shocked to learn Kensley has some exceptionalities. If she does, that doesn’t make her easy to live with, but does make Luis’ behavior even worse when viewed through that lens.

 

Libby reminds me of one of my sorority sisters who once shit in a tanning bed. She’s a square. 

[jpagan05]

On 11/26/2017 at 11:22 PM, biakbiak said:

That was the saddest strip club ever and even sadder they got the day shift strippers.

 

I think because it was like 8 o'clock at night. Who goes to a club of any kind before 10pm? I think they were the only ones there.

On 11/27/2017 at 1:15 AM, biakbiak said:

In my opinion they are dumb to not to know the difference. Her mother was the one insisting in her talking head that they were "cultured".

David is a dick but I loved when he shot down Evelyn's brother nonsense about moving Evelyn away from the family with "I left my sister in Spain". They shut up and apparently her parents will be cool with avid making all decisions or her once they are married.

I feel like this would have been a good opportunity to go to a larger town nearby and get actual tapas or Spanish food. They are not that far from Boston or Portsmouth, NH or even Portland, ME and they all have a great foodie culture. 

I'm glad that David pointed that out too. Elizabeth also said something like, "I can't leave. I have a life here." Lauren and Alexei were probably the only couple that showed how painful it was to leave your entire life and family and move to another country. 

I agree with whoever said something about the meth vibe with Josh. I thought the same thing. And a white nationalist vibe. Does he have any front teeth? And, sweet mother of Jesus, I loathe his friend. He reminds me of James Spader's character in "Pretty in Pink".

[eggsnbacon]

11 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

Evelymn, fun fact. Women wear nice lingerie whether or not they are seeing someone/having sex. They enjoy feeling pretty and sexy. Nice of you to cut your friend/soon to be former friend by reveling in that you will be having sex. So what.

You certainly come across as an entitled womanchild with a stick in her butt.

Both her and her spouse to be need to have a talk about children,  birth control for both of you, etc.

David Poor, go to Kentucky and find a job. You do like to mooch off your friends. They will want to be repaid, with interest.

Nicole, start being a mother to your child and grow up before asking Azan to step up as a father.

A lot of women if not most probably don't wear "sexy underwear" most days. Started a few years ago (matching sets, lace/frills/color whatever) and it does boost confidence. 

[Emmeline]

8 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

Evelymn, fun fact. Women wear nice lingerie whether or not they are seeing someone/having sex. They enjoy feeling pretty and sexy. Nice of you to cut your friend/soon to be former friend by reveling in that you will be having sex. So what.

I’m with you on this.  I have a good amount of fancy underwear that I wear most days because it makes me feel good.  I wear the more conventional stuff on the weekend when I’m washing the floors, etc.   It’s hard to feel sexy doing that no matter what your wearing!

[ALittleShelfish]

Josh saying he was "fixed."  Really, Josh?  That's the best way you know how to say it?  Do you still call it your "pee pee" too?  Good gravy.

[TonyasBlueEyeshado]

Joe can impregnate Aika for Josh! That’s a real friend! 

[Frozendiva]

3 minutes ago, Emmeline said:

I’m with you on this.  I have a good amount of fancy underwear that I wear most days because it makes me feel good.  I wear the more conventional stuff on the weekend when I’m washing the floors, etc.   It’s hard to feel sexy doing that no matter what your wearing!

I don’t wear the good stuff on cleaning days and such either. Just something decent work days. Definitely not the sexy stuff (which can be itchy and uncomfortable) to work.

[EarlGreyTea]

I'm a runner, and Andrei has the oddest form I've ever seen, kind of like a colt (although I'm not one to talk about good form). Having said that, it was nice seeing them run together and just generally enjoy each other's company. Azan must be pea green with envy. It was pretty refreshing seeing a fiance concerned about not being able to work and budgeting. I get the sense that Andrei hates not working and hates not being the main breadwinner, as the man in the relationship.

What does Chris do, besides bankroll David? We never hear a damn word from him. I bet much of the sponsor drama is producer-driven, but it's still pretty legit. If Chris really left Nikki in the dark, that's shitty. Does David have a pee tape of Chris?

I fast forward Azan and Nicole. It is no longer entertaining. It is just plain repulsive to watch their story.

[Gigglepuff]

Aika is wrong. Getting, "fixed," is probably the smartest thing he's ever done. 

[Adeejay]

Aika is 36 years old. She has made it perfectly clear that having a family is important to her.  Unless she was in a convent, I wonder why she hasn't found anyone until now. 

[puppytoes]

9 minutes ago, Chickabiddy said:

Totally. But then again, that is what constant tablet and fries get you. May needs more mental stimulation, physical activity, and better nutrition. At three, she should not need to be changed at night. Three years olds have occasional accidents, but she should be able to make it through the night. Naturally, I blame Nicole. Parenting is hard. And Jabba the Blond don't have time for that. She has a rigorous sleep schedule to maintain. It's really hard, don't ya know?

I wonder if jabba’s Mother watches her while Jabba works at Starbucks.  The kid needs to be in a structured daycare interacting with other children.  She needs to be read to nightly.  She is too young for a tablet.  You are correct that this kid isn’t being fed healthy food.  Look at Jabba.  She is a big , sloppy mess.

[jpagan05]

On 12/1/2017 at 1:05 AM, mamadrama said:

This is going to sound crazy but my younger self did something VERY similar-TWICE! Met a guy on vacation when I was 18. Had a 2-night fling, fell head over heels, and then flew all the way to Boston 3 months later to "surprise" him. He so didn't care. A few years later, was backpacking Eastern Europe and met a guy from England. Spent several days traveling together. Decided to meet in Ireland a year later. I showed up, all the way from the US, he didn't. Gave me an excuse about the plane tickets from England being too expensive. (I know, I know.) Three months later, I flew to England to surprise him. Guess what? He didn't care. In both of these instances, I was head over heels in love with the guys-almost to the point of making myself sick. 

Ugh. So embarrassing. No wonder I kept going back and dating my childhood friend. 

I could totally see Nicole inviting herself and Azan just not knowing what to do about it. 

Love this! I had a long distance relationship with a guy from the UK for a year. This was way before cell phones and Skype and shit- so much wasted time, energy and money! I did learn a lot about myself though. Have you seen "Before Sunrise"?

[Neurochick]

Even in Kentucky, David and Annie are staying in a place Chris owns.

Interesting how Annie thought that everyplace in America was like New York.

Poor Annie.

[TonyasBlueEyeshado]

12 minutes ago, EarlGreyTea said:

I'm a runner, and Andrei has the oddest form I've ever seen, kind of like a colt (although I'm not one to talk about good form). Having said that, it was nice seeing them run together and just generally enjoy each other's company. Azan must be pea green with envy. It was pretty refreshing seeing a fiance concerned about not being able to work and budgeting. I get the sense that Andrei hates not working and hates not being the main breadwinner, as the man in the relationship.

 

I was a runner, and track coach... it looked to me as Andrei ran, that he had one leg significantly longer than the other. That is the best explanation for his gait that I can come up with.

[Mercolleen]

When was Chris last at the firehouse that he left the door open? I'm surprised there are no squatters.

[Bnwcat]

I do really like Elizabeth's wedding venue and dress. Very pretty.

Poor Annie. She is in for a life of disappointment if she sticks with David.

[Neurochick]

Elizabeth’s sisters don’t act very loving towards Elizabeth.  

[tincansailor981]

44 minutes ago, Kairay said:

Wow. I have no words for Luis. No you are not ready to get married. 

He is such an immature asshole

[DropTheSoap]

Just now, Bnwcat said:

Poor Annie. She is in for a life of disappointment if she sticks with David.

But it may be only David's lifetime. Not kind, I know, but he does not look well. 48 going on 68.

[mamadrama]

I'm a Kentuckian so obviously I am biased here, but I'd take our state over LA any day... (Except maybe not Louisville. But then, I am a UK fan so...)

Andrei and Libby have probably the best relationship on the show. She is playing up for the camera, however, and I don't think she let Andrei in on the secret. He probably has no idea that she is following a script she's created in her head. 

I totally respect Molly's choice to go international and adopt an older child. It's cool that she brought one home that's probably been waiting for awhile. Now she just needs to find herself a husband. 

Edited December 4, 2017 by mamadrama

[Neurochick]

1 minute ago, tincansailor981 said:

He is such an immature asshole

Yes, but then again Molly picked him, so there is that.

[Arwen Evenstar]

That place in Kentucky is really quite a step down from the LA digs, but the price is right.  The bed was unmade, so who was there before the Bahtlesses?

David Poor has officially begun his penance for angering The Goddess.  Nikki is stunning and she bounced back pretty quickly after delivering that adorable love bundle.

[tincansailor981]

"It's a thong, Evelyn"  Gawd, she's either dense as hell naturally or chooses to be dense as hell.

[ALittleShelfish]

1 minute ago, mamadrama said:

I totally respect Molly's choice. It's hard for those older children to get adopted so it's cool that she brought one home that's probably been waiting for awhile. Now she just needs to find herself a husband. 

And for only $19/month, she IS supporting a poor Dominican child.  I think I hear Sarah McLaughlan screaming off set "DAMMIT MOLLY, THAT'S NOT HOW THIS WORKS, THAT'S NOT HOW ANY OF THIS WORKS." 

(how many commercials could I mash up in one thought?  as many as i could, thank you)

[Awfarmington]

Libby is pitting her family and Andrei against each other.

Libby to Sisters- " Andrei is really controlling of me, and I have to submit" 

Libby to Andrei- "My family hates you, and my sisters are planning on getting me wasted and taking my phone away so you can't ruin our fun" 

Then she whines about not having to choose one over the other?

How about telling your family he is great guy who 100% wants to support you. Then not mentioning to Andrei that your sisters are talking stupid?!

[CoachWristletJen]

45 minutes ago, eggsnbacon said:

Oh I think they have talked in private, she is too direct of a personality to not have talked to him

Either way, it was time for David Indigent to leave. Even though he was more than happy to have vacation time for two on Chris's dime, he needed to get his broke butt to Kentucky and start looking for a job.

Moving to that firehouse was certainly a rude awakening for Annie! To go from that large comfortable house to a dingy lonely abandoned firehouse? And David was talking brightly about making the best of it? No neighbors, no other people, nothing. No television. Seemed like a cold, crude existence.

She's certainly hitched her wagon to a star.

I sure hope Chris quits giving them handouts.

[sainte-chapelle]

The lingerie segment was ridiculous, in my early teens I liked trying on and buying lingerie. I was not sexually active but it was my way of exploring and I know many of my friends did the same. Of course Screetchy face knows what a thong is.

Edited December 4, 2017 by sainte-chapelle
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[CoachWristletJen]

1 minute ago, Awfarmington said:

Libby is pitting her family and Andrei against each other.

Libby to Sisters- " Andrei is really controlling of me, and I have to submit" 

Libby to Andrei- "My family hates you, and my sisters are planning on getting me wasted and taking my phone away so you can't ruin our fun" 

Then she whines about not having to choose one over the other?

How about telling your family he is great guy who 100% wants to support you. Then not mentioning to Andrei that your sisters are talking stupid?!

Libby is a troublemaker to be sure.

She's creating drama.

And it's getting old.

She needs to shut her mouth and quit playing around.

[mamadrama]

Okay, I totally believe that David Spain is a virgin. That pearl-clutching scene cinched it for me. Dude will probably make her stay covered the whole time and ask her to pray afterwards. 

[Mercolleen]

Wow, David Spain has got some issues!!! I bet he thinks masturbation is a sin.

[CoachWristletJen]

David has some sexual dysfunction. He can't even talk about it?

That's really weird.

What's he going to do on the wedding night?

Then he starts shaming Evelyn for talking about something that's perfectly natural?

What a dick.

He wants a young girl that he can shame and control.

[Chickabiddy]

"Oh, look at all the cabinets. That's a lot of great space." And David, that is so important because you have precisely nothing to put in them. Bahtman should have just taken his bride to directly to Louisville. Totally self defeating to to take her to LA and Chris's pad so Annie can see everything she will never have with David. 

Libby's sisters are vile shrews to try and sabotage her relationship with Andrei. Jesus, who plots shit like that IRL? Someone's been sitting around watching too much daytime TV. Methinks those harpies are jealous of their sister and her hot alpha male. 

I think Andrei and Libby are such a cute couple together. That venue was beautiful, and they were both so happy with it. They are a really good match. I think Andrei is going to help give Libby a backbone to stand up to her nasty family.  He really seems to want her and them as a couple to stand on their own two feet. The irony is that while he may be a tad domineering, he is probably the most liberating thing that has even happened to her. 

Sexual dysfunction much, David Spain? I think we now know why Daivd Spain chose an 18 year old fundie virgin. He was hoping to buy some time in avoiding sex for a few years.

I just love how Evelyn has no education, not skills, no life experience and wants to be a home maker - a home maker who can't cook at all and pouts on her bed when her mom asks her to fold laundry with her. That girl brings absolutely nothing to the table. Loretta Lynn was the same way when she got married, but she was 13 and she could sing and write songs. Evelyn has nothing to recommend her.

[Neurochick]

Maybe David Spain felt uncomfortable talking about sex on camera.

[CoachWristletJen]

David Spain, you're going to have to show Evelyn your penis at some point. You do get that, don't you?

[KayBreezy]

Umm...David is 27 and is engaged to an 18 year old GIRL...So, there's that. Then he is a 27 year old virgin...who is engaged...who is uncomfortable talking about sex...Questions? Concerns?

I think Azan needs to take his out...IJS

[Forum member]

33 minutes ago, jpagan05 said:

I agree with whoever said something about the meth vibe with Josh. I thought the same thing. And a white nationalist vibe. Does he have any front teeth? And, sweet mother of Jesus, I loathe his friend. He reminds me of James Spader's character in "Pretty in Pink".

I really paid attention during a replay and finally saw a few offset yellow snags for half a second. Nothing in front though.

[CoachWristletJen]

6 minutes ago, Chickabiddy said:

"Oh, look at all the cabinets. That's a lot of great space." And David, that is so important because you have precisely nothing to put in them. Bahtman should have just taken his bride to directly to Louisville. Totally self defeating to to take her to LA and Chris's pad so Annie can see everything she will never have with David. 

That place was a hellhole by comparison.  How long before he starts drinking again?

She's going to be so lonely stuck there with nobody to talk to but him!

Nikki had every right to be upset about sponsoring Annie for ten years! It's very likely that she'll get pregnant... by someone else.

It's very likely that they will be supporting Annie and paying all of her bills for a good long time because we all know David Pour won't come through.

What was disturbing was that Annie didn't seem upset in the least by how she was imposing on Nikki and Chris.  It's a gigantic imposition!  Ten years!

Edited December 4, 2017 by CoachWristletJen

[tincansailor981]

Damn, so Malaga dude doesn't want to discuss having sex with his soon to be wife, Mr. Ed's illegitimate daughter?  Homey has serious control and self esteem issues or he's just one f'ing strange dude.  I vote for the latter