tessaray August 20, 2017 Share August 20, 2017 When the fourth season opens, it's sixteen months after thwarting the coup in America and the Nathan James must face yet another global disaster. The question remains, where in the world is Tom Chandler? Second episode: Having lost their only lead, the crew of Nathan James continues their search for an item that could save the world. Chandler immerses himself in a mission for revenge. Link to comment
MomHasCooties August 21, 2017 Share August 21, 2017 Yikes. That was a dreary first hour. 1 Link to comment
xaxat August 21, 2017 Share August 21, 2017 I don't really care one way or another about the plot yet, but I enjoyed seeing the crew of the Nathan James working together again. Except for the fact that the writers decided to ship (pun not intended) every potential couple. The Greece story. I don't care about at all. I'm sure Chekhov's video cam will provide the clue to the James finding Chandler and the plots will intersect, but right now? Boring. 4 Link to comment
thuganomics85 August 21, 2017 Share August 21, 2017 The Last Ship is finally back. Still feels weird that it's airing so late into the summer, but it is understandable after what happened with Eric Dane in real life. So, right now Chandler is off in his own little world in Greece. That Alex character might has well have worn a sign that said "I am only here to spout wisdom and then die so Chandler will snap out of his funk." But now he's in some kind of fight club, starring down Jackson Rathbone (from such "classics" like The Last Airbender movie and the Twilight series), and getting hot and heavy with Sibylla Deen a.k.a. Nursat from FX's departed Tyrant. OK, the last part isn't too bad. Glad Cameron Burk didn't die, although I figured they were going to ship (sorry) him off screen since LaMonica Garrett got himself a fancy network television gig on Designated Survivor. I do hope they check back in on him. And I'm guessing Carlton Burk's cold shoulder to Miller is because he blames him for not warning Cameron in time. Glad to see Green and Foster are keeping it professional. Hope they keep it up. Some new badass woman is here that Wolf is smitten over, but she seems more interested in Granderson. Love triangle time? Jeter/Charles Parnell continues to be an unsung hero with the ways he can make even the cheesiest speeches like that Hercules bearable to listen to. OK, as much as I love Bridget Regan, I noticed that once again that there was a hilarious moment where everyone is starring at a screen and while most of them look normal, Sasha is just randomly posing like she's doing a model shoot instead trying to find a way to stop all of Earth's food from getting infected. 7 Link to comment
oakville August 21, 2017 Share August 21, 2017 I was surprised that Chandler became a Fisherman in Greece. I speak Greek & the actors attempts at speaking Greek was painful to listen to. I was confused by the effects of the Red Dust & magicseeds. Will the magic seeds grow all existing crops? The seafood wasn't affected by the disease. I still like the cast. Link to comment
Joimiaroxeu August 21, 2017 Share August 21, 2017 Sasha looked to me like she encountered a boatload of botox somewhere in her travels. It was distracting. During the whole segment on the island I kept waiting for James Bond to show up in a tuxedo. Glad the show is back. It's silly fun. 3 Link to comment
FnkyChkn34 August 21, 2017 Share August 21, 2017 This was a good intro for the season, IMO. I'll be happy when the cast can get rid of those ridiculous beards though, please. Yikes. In addition to the action and the apocalypse stories, I also like the relationships. What are Chandler and Cooper going to do when he returns to the ship? Will she dump the British guy? And can the Greens really follow the rules? Hm... Link to comment
JusLaugh August 21, 2017 Share August 21, 2017 During the scenes in Greece, my Amazon Echo kept thinking someone was talking to her...she kept saying, "I'm sorry, I couldn't understand that." Was someone's name Alexa? So glad this show is back. I love it! Can't wait to see what amazing adventures are in store this season. 1 Link to comment
preeya August 22, 2017 Share August 22, 2017 Isn't Chandler a bit long in the tooth to be emulating Rocky Balboa? 1 Link to comment
FnkyChkn34 August 22, 2017 Share August 22, 2017 39 minutes ago, preeya said: Isn't Chandler a bit long in the tooth to be emulating Rocky Balboa? Eric Dane is only 44. Chandler seems to be about the same age, and as a highly trained Navy captain? I'd say he's fine. (John Cena still does whatever it is he does, and he's 40.) 2 Link to comment
dvil August 22, 2017 Share August 22, 2017 So the new plant plague affects only crops and not all the random greenery in Greece? 3 Link to comment
Catronia August 22, 2017 Share August 22, 2017 (edited) I love this show, for all its occasional silliness, and am so glad it's back! I thought these first few episodes were a great introduction to the season, and am not asking myself too many questions about crop viruses, palm seeds and the like ;-) The views of Gibraltar were great, and I loved the intercutting between the final assault and Chandler's fight. I'm very glad Chandler didn't drink the evil tea of addiction. Edited August 22, 2017 by Catronia 1 Link to comment
ottoDbusdriver August 22, 2017 Share August 22, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, dvil said: So the new plant plague affects only crops and not all the random greenery in Greece? That seems oddly specific, and the fact that it hasn't affected apples -- yet !! I'm not buying the whole virus had to go somewhere -- um, no, it didn't. It was a very specifically engineered avian flu mixed with human DNA -- I could see that jumping to birds, and maybe other species close to humans like great apes, but certainly not crops and just food crops at that. Corn, wheat and rice -- come on, where am I going to get my Chex from now.. That truck seemed way to tall to get through those low ceiling tunnels. The explosion that took down the James seemed pretty tame -- unless Omar had an EMP attached to the finishing nets, I don't see an explosion that small taking down all 4 main propulsion systems and all the backups. It was like last season when there were caught fighting the pirates and someone said 'brace for impact' and nothing really happened. This time too the fishing net explosion was justs underwhelming. So Omar somehow knew that the NJ crew would pick up on the tattoo on the dead guy's arm and set sail for Oran (I initially thought they were saying Iran) -- and get the IED-laden fishing net prepped across the SoG .... AND ... setup a mobile rocket launcher. Chandler and the fight club is kind of dull -- of course the Internet must be up and running, so that camcorder guy will post his videos on Youtube, just in time for the NJ to swing by and pick Chandler up. Isn't this along the similar path that S3 started too ? Edited August 22, 2017 by ottoDbusdriver Link to comment
Lonesome Rhodes August 22, 2017 Share August 22, 2017 It's all Greek to me! (not really) The scene with the Nebraska farmer revealing the red plague really got to me, for some reason. Too close to something that might actually happen??? I was pleasantly taken back to one of the most unknown, but great, concept rock albums evah - The War of the Worlds - which featured Justin Hayward of the Moody Blues, and Richard Burton, who was the narrator. It's a take on the famous radio play by Orson Welles. In the album version, the Martians create a red weed, which overwhelmed typical earth crops, as their food source. Please do check this remarkable album out. Was Kojak's brother (Stavros) the Greek captain, or is he the supposed mysterious head honcho? The femme fatale sister is just not exotic or interesting enough. When Chandler went to bed with her, I was reminded of a James Bond sex scene when he cheekily and ironically stated, "The things I do for Queen and country." How on earth does the NJ ever work properly? That has to be at least the third electrical overhaul she will require. I would like to know if all power evaporates, how does the communication system still work flawlessly? No way the strike force would have survived the Guns of Navarone explosion. The fall to the water and rocky shores would have killed them all, if the shrapnel did not. I did appreciate the description of the inevitable declines of the various civilizations/territories/regions. War Lords, such as the one ruling over Greece, would be the rulers. Who is the president of the "USA" now? What became of the traitorous governors? I truly loved that they addressed the reality of maintaining foreign bases. They would have been abandoned many months before, but at least TPTB got it right at this point. It's a joke that the captain (Joe?) who opposed Chandler was given that position on the NJ. Slattery's little speech to him was as false a note as there has been in this entire series - and that is saying something! Finally, one of my alltime most hated movie tropes is how the good guys will have grenades and such, but the bad guys don't. Here, neither side had any much of the time, which was ridiculous. BUT, then!!!!! In the hospital, finally, the bad guys had one and it worked well!!!!!! I about fell out. Of course, they would have had many, many, more across their whole range of attacks. Not one explosive to toss on/at the NJ?!!!! Really???? 1 Link to comment
Netfoot August 22, 2017 Share August 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Lonesome Rhodes said: Please do check this remarkable album out. Your post brought back memories of this great album, which I promptly ordered from Amazon. Quote The femme fatale sister is just not exotic or interesting enough. Yeah, I took one look at her and thought, "...not really!" But Chandler seems more interested in her necklace than her décolletage, so maybe it's deliberate? I'll be disappointed if it turns out to be twu wuv for Chandler! 1 Link to comment
FnkyChkn34 August 22, 2017 Share August 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Netfoot said: Yeah, I took one look at her and thought, "...not really!" But Chandler seems more interested in her necklace than her décolletage, so maybe it's deliberate? I'll be disappointed if it turns out to be twu wuv for Chandler! I think he's totally back in undercover Capt. Chandler mode with her. He has that Greek girlfriend; he's not just going to immediately fall in love with this evil guy's sister. 4 Link to comment
Thrifty August 22, 2017 Share August 22, 2017 It was good to see this show back. I have trouble remembering the characters though. There seem to be a lot of characters, and I'm really bad at matching names to faces. The story I can keep track of. So it's still a good show. I think episode 2 was the first time they really stated the extent of the Red Flu's destruction. Five billion dead? That's something like 71% of the population. It's amazing the world isn't in even more chaos. The idea of the Red Flu mutating into the Red Rust and becoming a bad crop blight seems far-fetched, but I'll suspend disbelief so that they have something to build a plot from. 2 Link to comment
FnkyChkn34 August 22, 2017 Share August 22, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Thrifty said: It was good to see this show back. I have trouble remembering the characters though. There seem to be a lot of characters, and I'm really bad at matching names to faces. The story I can keep track of. So it's still a good show. I think episode 2 was the first time they really stated the extent of the Red Flu's destruction. Five billion dead? That's something like 71% of the population. It's amazing the world isn't in even more chaos. The idea of the Red Flu mutating into the Red Rust and becoming a bad crop blight seems far-fetched, but I'll suspend disbelief so that they have something to build a plot from. I'm good with most of the characters that have been there all of the seasons, except the brothers. There are two Burks, right? I can tell them apart, but I forget which has which job. That reminds me of another question though - if this were normal times, would they really be allowed to serve together on the same ship? (I think that's like the Saving Private Ryan rule, right? Or is that a totally made up thing?) I can understand that rules aren't being followed in a time of crisis though. Edited August 22, 2017 by FnkyChkn34 grammar is important Link to comment
Thrifty August 22, 2017 Share August 22, 2017 I feel like those Navy uniforms make the characters look too similar. The hats on the fellas and the tightly tied up hair on the ladies doesn't help. 1 Link to comment
MissLucas August 22, 2017 Share August 22, 2017 Glad 'The Last Ship' is back to fulfill my apocalyptic needs as I'm ready to jump ship with 'Salvation'. Hopefully Chandler can soon leave his John Le Carré rip-off plot. Get that necklace, figure out the evil cabal and return to your ship Ulysses! 2 Link to comment
Catronia August 23, 2017 Share August 23, 2017 Also, it'll be easier to recognize the characters when they lose the ugly beards. I had Chandler and Green briefly confused because of the similar beards. 2 Link to comment
Thrifty August 23, 2017 Share August 23, 2017 I think Captain Slattery and Master Chief Whatshisname are the only characters I can consistently recognize. Link to comment
Raja August 23, 2017 Share August 23, 2017 So now we are at the point of showing footage of one type of helicopter, a Huey, picking up Vulture team and a different type, a Seahawk which the USN probably took away with the mutiny story line last season landing on Nathan James. Link to comment
FnkyChkn34 August 23, 2017 Share August 23, 2017 58 minutes ago, Thrifty said: I think Captain Slattery and Master Chief Whatshisname are the only characters I can consistently recognize. I also recognize Lt. Green, because he wears the olive green/tan uniform of a SEAL instead of blue like everyone else. :-) 2 Link to comment
ramble August 26, 2017 Share August 26, 2017 Wheeee! I'm glad this fun show full of pretty men is back for my shallow viewing pleasure. I hope our Captain is back to the ship soon. I don't care for the separation too much. I find myself wanting facts and figures every so often when I watch this. How many survivors of the red flu? What's the distribution of those survivors across continents? What are the death rates now from the red rust? Are any places unaffected? Then I remind myself to stop and simply sit back and enjoy the entertainment factor. The red rust is a convenient way to have a new foe to battle and still be on the ship, and I'm okay with that. Oh and lest I forget, my initial Wolf sighting of the season brought forth a loud squee from me! Yummy, yum, yum. 2 Link to comment
Thrifty August 26, 2017 Share August 26, 2017 19 hours ago, ramble said: Wheeee! I'm glad this fun show full of pretty men is back for my shallow viewing pleasure. I hope our Captain is back to the ship soon. I don't care for the separation too much. I find myself wanting facts and figures every so often when I watch this. How many survivors of the red flu? What's the distribution of those survivors across continents? What are the death rates now from the red rust? Are any places unaffected? Then I remind myself to stop and simply sit back and enjoy the entertainment factor. The red rust is a convenient way to have a new foe to battle and still be on the ship, and I'm okay with that. Oh and lest I forget, my initial Wolf sighting of the season brought forth a loud squee from me! Yummy, yum, yum. They said that 5 billion died from the red flu pandemic. They also mentioned the death toll from the red rust blight somewhere in the first or second episode of the season. 2 Link to comment
oakville August 27, 2017 Share August 27, 2017 I am happy that Tim Hortons tea & coffee was available on the Nathan James. It survived the red flu! 3 hours ago, Thrifty said: They said that 5 billion died from the red flu pandemic. They also mentioned the death toll from the red rust blight somewhere in the first or second episode of the season. The UK MI 6 guy said that Athens is silent & Izmir from Turkey is fighting the Greeks in Cyprus. The US military bases have not all been re established. Link to comment
Dowel Jones August 27, 2017 Share August 27, 2017 (edited) On 8/26/2017 at 5:16 PM, oakville said: I am happy that Tim Hortons tea & coffee was available on the Nathan James. It survived the red flu! I noticed with some smirk that one of the sponsors of the show was Red Lobster restaurants. For a group of special operations fighters, those guys couldn't seem to hit the inside of the cave, much less any of the bad guys running straight at them. Did anyone think of maybe pushing the missile off the launch rack so it couldn't be fired? And yeah, about that 5" shell exploding behind them.... I knew, as soon as Giorgio used his necklace to open the door of doom, that Chandler would begin to romance Melania in order to get the other necklace. Ship porn! Crisis after crisis! Relationship anvils! They're baaack! Edited August 28, 2017 by Dowel Jones Wrong name. Wrong villian. 3 Link to comment
millahnna August 28, 2017 Share August 28, 2017 I wasn't in the Navy very long but I was in long enough to about fall out of my chair when someone told the young enlisted engineer chick not to "nuke" the problem. Good times. Link to comment
Raja August 29, 2017 Share August 29, 2017 On 8/22/2017 at 10:39 AM, FnkyChkn34 said: I'm good with most of the characters that have been there all of the seasons, except the brothers. There are two Burks, right? I can tell them apart, but I forget which has which job. That reminds me of another question though - if this were normal times, would they really be allowed to serve together on the same ship? (I think that's like the Saving Private Ryan rule, right? Or is that a totally made up thing?) I can understand that rules aren't being followed in a time of crisis though. The Sullivan Brothers serving all lost on the same ship fighting against the Japanese and the Borgstrom Brothers being lost in different units, one was a MIA/POW and found alaive with the end of the war. The law went into effect in 1948 with the general Defense department reorganization. During peacetime the services set their own policy giving the situation, the crisis in The Last Ship the Burk Brothers and the Green family would defiantly be separated. 1 Link to comment
FnkyChkn34 August 29, 2017 Share August 29, 2017 2 hours ago, Raja said: The Sullivan Brothers serving all lost on the same ship fighting against the Japanese and the Borgstrom Brothers being lost in different units, one was a MIA/POW and found alaive with the end of the war. The law went into effect in 1948 with the general Defense department reorganization. During peacetime the services set their own policy giving the situation, the crisis in The Last Ship the Burk Brothers and the Green family would defiantly be separated. Well, I guess the situation resolved itself, unfortunately. One of the Burk brothers is now recovering at a hospital in Germany, while the other is still on the ship. And the Greens did address it; they requested to serve and said they knew the risks and rules. Slattery approved Kara's return. I guess we just have to suspend belief for a show like this anyway. 1 Link to comment
Raja August 29, 2017 Share August 29, 2017 27 minutes ago, FnkyChkn34 said: Well, I guess the situation resolved itself, unfortunately. One of the Burk brothers is now recovering at a hospital in Germany, while the other is still on the ship. And the Greens did address it; they requested to serve and said they knew the risks and rules. Slattery approved Kara's return. I guess we just have to suspend belief for a show like this anyway. The whole reason for the law wasn't for the service member to override and serve together but for the family back home. In the Green's case they might be okay with having their kids lose both parents to one missile strike the nation's interest was that we did not need to take that risk as we were large enough to have options, thus by the time of 1948 law and the policies already put in place to separate siblings because the Sullivan brothers ship was sunk. But like you said the show, as with other war shows were brothers found themselves together before the big fight. Much, like the other Captains who survived Asia last season serving as XO and a supernumerary aboard Nathan James instead of introducing new characters. Speaking of new characters I guess the new female Huey door gunner, and/or Diaz will become a pilot by season 5. Compared to season 1 and 2 when aircrew were nameless faceless guys behind a visor. They threw out the Naval Aviators are college graduates and officers with Diaz saying that policy has to change given the mass die off. Sunshine, the Huey pilot seems to be a recalled from retirement Army Chief Warrant Officer, that one class of US Military aviators famous for not being commissioned officers but "from high school to flight school" and receiving their warrant and pilot's wings. 1 Link to comment
FnkyChkn34 August 29, 2017 Share August 29, 2017 9 minutes ago, Raja said: The whole reason for the law wasn't for the service member to override and serve together but for the family back home. In the Green's case they might be okay with having their kids lose both parents to one missile strike the nation's interest was that we did not need to take that risk as we were large enough to have options, thus by the time of 1948 law and the policies already put in place to separate siblings because the Sullivan brothers ship was sunk. But like you said the show, as with other war shows were brothers found themselves together before the big fight. Much, like the other Captains who survived Asia last season serving as XO and a supernumerary aboard Nathan James instead of introducing new characters. Do we know what happened to Green's family? Kara has her mother who can take care of their son, but did all of Green's family die in the plague? So the rule doesn't really protect the family back home when there is no family back home. I think we're saying the same thing. :) Link to comment
Raja August 29, 2017 Share August 29, 2017 39 minutes ago, FnkyChkn34 said: Do we know what happened to Green's family? Kara has her mother who can take care of their son, but did all of Green's family die in the plague? So the rule doesn't really protect the family back home when there is no family back home. I think we're saying the same thing. :) We are, it is the son not the parents of the Green's who I am saying the nation owes it to. That the Green adults don't get to override that since there are other officers maybe few remaining SEALs but we have seen other who could run the CIC of a fighting ship. Link to comment
seacliffsal August 30, 2017 Share August 30, 2017 Does anyone know why they almost all have those beards? If so, I'd really appreciate it if you would share. I must have missed the reason. Link to comment
Raja August 30, 2017 Share August 30, 2017 1 hour ago, seacliffsal said: Does anyone know why they almost all have those beards? If so, I'd really appreciate it if you would share. I must have missed the reason. They, Vulture Team are functionally all SEALs now. In beards they are prepared for undercover operations should they be needed. Link to comment
seacliffsal August 30, 2017 Share August 30, 2017 Thanks Raja. I just couldn't figure it out. Link to comment
ttgreif September 2, 2017 Share September 2, 2017 On 21/8/2017 at 6:00 PM, oakville said: I was surprised that Chandler became a Fisherman in Greece. I speak Greek & the actors attempts at speaking Greek was painful to listen to. I was confused by the effects of the Red Dust & magicseeds. Will the magic seeds grow all existing crops? The seafood wasn't affected by the disease. I still like the cast. I AM greek and I can surely tell ya this is 1000% true. It seems that when Vassilopoulos is doing the greek voicing everything's fine but when actors do it, it's awful. 1 Link to comment
mythoughtis November 19, 2017 Share November 19, 2017 Given the huge number of people that have died from the flu and this crop thing... there still seem to be a large number of civilians on these two episodes. Link to comment
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