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Christina

Christina

I have been waiting and waiting and waiting for some information about Simon to become public, because I learned it a few months ago and couldn't disclose it without possibly identifying the source. "Source" has nothing to do with MTV, the production company, the show or Simon personally, which pretty much pinpoints who it would be if someone was looking for the leak. I think he is as trashy as the rest of them for reasons that have nothing to do with his appearance on this show, which ended up with me having a conversation with someone who told me his full name and some legal trouble coming down the pike. It seems like that would have happened by now, but I can't find anything on it. It's not really juicy, more of a "HaHa You're an Idiot!" which may have been cleared up without legal action. 

For future reference, in case anyone wants to search about him, his full name is Simondeep Singh Saran. That is probably not an unknown fact, I just hadn't heard it before I was told. He's supposed to have a special, too, but I don't know when it airs. I thought this was the thread for it, decided to see if any info had been released, it still hadn't, and now I'm pouting cause I can't share and laugh at him. 

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Faul McCartney

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23 minutes ago, Christina said:

I have been waiting and waiting and waiting for some information about Simon to become public, because I learned it a few months ago and couldn't disclose it without possibly identifying the source. "Source" has nothing to do with MTV, the production company, the show or Simon personally, which pretty much pinpoints who it would be if someone was looking for the leak. I think he is as trashy as the rest of them for reasons that have nothing to do with his appearance on this show, which ended up with me having a conversation with someone who told me his full name and some legal trouble coming down the pike. It seems like that would have happened by now, but I can't find anything on it. It's not really juicy, more of a "HaHa You're an Idiot!" which may have been cleared up without legal action. 

For future reference, in case anyone wants to search about him, his full name is Simondeep Singh Saran. That is probably not an unknown fact, I just hadn't heard it before I was told. He's supposed to have a special, too, but I don't know when it airs. I thought this was the thread for it, decided to see if any info had been released, it still hadn't, and now I'm pouting cause I can't share and laugh at him. 

oooh, juicy! All I can see is that he has two tax liens against him, just like the rest of these fools! His are small though. $10 and $22 owed to the County of San Diego. I also found his cell phone number but I'm too nice to post it :)

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GreatKazu

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12 hours ago, ginger90 said:

A bit of violence in Simondeep Singh Saran's past. I don't wish that on anyone.

I remember someone posting here a year ago that some girl had tried to put a restraining order on him. I can't recall if it ever went through or if the court denied it. I do remember Simon alleging it was her who was assaulting him and calling females on his cell phone. Jealousy was alleged by him. 

ETA: The ex girlfriend received a TRO against Simon. In 2012 Simon was granted a restraining order against her: 

http://www.inquisitr.com/2011792/farrah-abrahams-boyfriend-simon-saran-accused-of-verbal-abuse-violent-outbursts/

I decided to look up the girlfriend and I came up with this which shows she does, or once did, home staging for realty properties. She is on this rip off report site: http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/josie-leisz/san-diego-california-92122/josie-leisz-josie-leisz-pacific-management-pacific-staging-pacific-homes-empire-west-873153

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Christina

Christina

Both Simon and that ex were involved in shady deals regarding rentals and staging. Both had several negative posts about them, both got restraining orders on the other, both were accusing the other of violence and illegal activity and near as I can tell, both are liars.

Simon was also sued back when he was 18 or 19, somewhere in there, for an assault at a Burger King(?). The man who was beaten filed suit against Simon and another young man, but I could never figure out what actually happened or if Simon ended up with a judgment because it was just too old for the records to be available online. It's been awhile since I found that, way back when he first made his appearance and someone was disclosing info about him. I could see the filing docket, but not read the actual documents. That was the same time that someone who claimed she could see sales connected to his real estate license and there weren't very many, which leads me too....

I'm now going to jump into the shallow end of the pool. That video posted above by Druzy has the girl saying something about Simon having a bunch of money and not needing the $250 from the show to appear on stage at the reunion. I think he does have money, but don't know why she thinks it is from real estate. I'm going to drop two links here, and check out the listings for both salesmen. Also, there are several other agents under that broker, according to the Real Estate Licensing Commission, and Simon piggy backs on several. He is also not the salesman for some of the homes.

Simon's Profile

Other Agent's Profile

If you look at those two, you'll see that both profile's show the same properties and that Simon sold three homes, not listed by his firm. That's not shady, it's very common in the industry for the home to be listed by one company but shown by many. I am accusing him of being shady, but don't want to suggest that is why. I cannot see his entire portfolio of homes sold, only what is on that page, but I'm sure he is reporting many more sales than that, and he also supposedly rents property still, including to the adult industry for filming purposes. The interesting thing about that, though, it that it doesn't seem like those properties are in his legal name. Maybe he does own property under a corporate name or trust, or maybe he just acts as a go between from the renters and owners, similar to what he and his ex were doing while they were together. The actual Broker of the agency, on the other hand, has one current listing and several sales on his page. I didn't look through all of them to see if Simon is connected to any of those properties, but many of them were sold by agents of other Firms. 

I can't believe anything he says because he has been caught in too many lies. It also doesn't seem like MTV or 11th Street Productions would allow him to get away with disclosing facts about the show. To appear, he has also signed a contract. They came down hard on Matt for what he had in his book and made him remove it, but Simon disclosing texts is no big deal? I don't believe that. It sounds reasonable enough for them to say the pay is $250, plus flight, room and per diem for meals, so that may be true, but I can't believe it because it is coming from another person who lies too much, for attention, because he loves the attention as much as the rest of them.

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“Simon was also sued back when he was 18 or 19, somewhere in there, for an assault at a Burger King(?). The man who was beaten filed suit against Simon and another young man, but I could never figure out what actually happened or if Simon ended up with a judgment because it was just too old for the records to be available online.

For some reason, I thought it was his brother who was sued. 

12 minutes ago, druzy said:

I have known people on meth. They are a crazy ass bunch. I have never felt Ryan was a meth user. He is just too low-keyed for the most part. I thought maybe downers or pain killers. 

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25 minutes ago, LilaFowler said:

Is Simon saying that the camera crew is giving Ryan the pills, or that his information is from the camera crew? Punctuation is important.

Simon was clear and specific in a previous tweet. He was just responding to someone asking him about it in a Q&A. Simon blamed Kiki the producer:

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/simon-saran-ryan-edwards-drugs-134196/photos/tyler-baltierra-job-235245

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GreatKazu

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2 hours ago, LilaFowler said:

Wow, what? If Heather can be fired for sleeping at Farrah's house, how is a camera person allowed to dispense drugs to cast members? WTF is going on here...

Kiki is not a camera person. She is a producer. All of those people at 11th Street productions and MTV are shady as fuck. Not an honorable person in the bunch. 

BTW Heather was fired for DIVULGING  private information about Matt abusing Amber to Farrah, not because of a sleep-over. That is MTV putting out that lie to cover their ass for covering up the abuse that is happening behind closed doors. 

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Christina

Christina

This is over a week old but I don't remember seeing it posted and I just came across it when trying to find something on Ryan: Comedian Stevie Ryan's Tweet war with Simon

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Heather was fired for DIVULGING  private information about Matt abusing Amber to Farrah, not because of a sleep-over.

To believe that I would have to believe Simon, and I don't. The alternative that Amber claims (the sleep-over) would require me to believe Amber, and I don't. I think the truth is somewhere else, like that she was fired for assisting Farrah and Simon in the production of their house-flipping show, which was posted somewhere else as fact. Farrah is a part of that new "Single and Famous" dating show on MTV, and rumor has it that Heather is a producer on that show, and that is why she left Teen Mom OG. I guess we'll find out when it airs if she is or not.

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heatherchandler

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From Simon's twitter (in response to Debra saying that Simon is a gold-digger) -

Interesting, @ddanielsen when's the last time you ever pulled out cash or a credit card around me? You dumb miserable hooker! #TeenMomOG

For some reason this is really cracking me up!

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GreatKazu

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2 hours ago, Christina said:

This is over a week old but I don't remember seeing it posted and I just came across it when trying to find something on Ryan: Comedian Stevie Ryan's Tweet war with Simon

To believe that I would have to believe Simon, and I don't. The alternative that Amber claims (the sleep-over) would require me to believe Amber, and I don't. I think the truth is somewhere else, like that she was fired for assisting Farrah and Simon in the production of their house-flipping show, which was posted somewhere else as fact. Farrah is a part of that new "Single and Famous" dating show on MTV, and rumor has it that Heather is a producer on that show, and that is why she left Teen Mom OG. I guess we'll find out when it airs if she is or not.

 

2 hours ago, Christina said:

This is over a week old but I don't remember seeing it posted and I just came across it when trying to find something on Ryan: Comedian Stevie Ryan's Tweet war with Simon

To believe that I would have to believe Simon, and I don't. The alternative that Amber claims (the sleep-over) would require me to believe Amber, and I don't. I think the truth is somewhere else, like that she was fired for assisting Farrah and Simon in the production of their house-flipping show, which was posted somewhere else as fact. Farrah is a part of that new "Single and Famous" dating show on MTV, and rumor has it that Heather is a producer on that show, and that is why she left Teen Mom OG. I guess we'll find out when it airs if she is or not.

Yeah, that doesn't seem believable.

Going to stick with the abuse. Simon may have used the word "fired" but maybe she was replaced. Amber threw a fit and made a threat. She said MTV needed to fix the situation. They did. They requested 11th St. Productions provide another oroducer and Heather was given a different assignment. 

1 hour ago, MaggieG said:

Damn Simon, don't hold back!

He doesn't. That is why I find him funny. 

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GreatKazu

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That's because Simon has no care about whatever bullshit Farrah is spouting. That, or it is all for the cameras and he knows Farrah is just playing it up.

Farrah and Simon are in cahoots. 

The whole dating show nonsense was part of that.

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sunsheyen

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I won't even go through too much of this. Although Simon seems to be on "our" side, he's still a scumbag involved with this production for his financial benefit.

He drags the other cast members just enough to keep his name relevant and to keep his spot on the show. He also tried to twitter indict the main EP on some borderline racist shit just for clickbait while never showing what he (his own self) has done to uplift POC. 

Fuck Simon. He's just another user. 

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Christina

Christina

I have long believed that Simon reads sites like Reddit and this one and then tweets what he thinks we want to hear. For instance, when looking at the link posted above, I had to delete the word "mobile" to make it load, which took me to his Twitter account main page, where there is this tweet:

Hmmm, there was just a conversation here discussing that issue as it pertained to Cate and Tyler. I didn't mean to grab the response tweet, but decided to leave it since I found it funny.

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evilmindatwork

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21 hours ago, sunsheyen said:

I won't even go through too much of this. Although Simon seems to be on "our" side, he's still a scumbag involved with this production for his financial benefit.

He drags the other cast members just enough to keep his name relevant and to keep his spot on the show. He also tried to twitter indict the main EP on some borderline racist shit just for clickbait while never showing what he (his own self) has done to uplift POC. 

Fuck Simon. He's just another user. 

What is the link in relation to? It doesn't work. Also, yes, I agree that Simon is a poseur and a scam artist. 

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GreatKazu

GreatKazu

Simon is not on "our" side. He just has no fucks to give. He is not an ass kisser. He gets camera time like everyone else on this show and will milk it like the rest of these assholes with their "brand" such as Maci and Taylor constantly advertising their shitty business.

It is funny to watch someone on this show who doesn't kiss MTVs ass and probably nakes them shit in their pants as they wonder what he will post next.

I still believe Simon was sincere with his offer to help Amber to move if she left Matt.

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guilfoyleatpp

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On 6/23/2017 at 8:31 AM, heatherchandler said:

From Simon's twitter (in response to Debra saying that Simon is a gold-digger) -

Interesting, @ddanielsen when's the last time you ever pulled out cash or a credit card around me? You dumb miserable hooker! #TeenMomOG

For some reason this is really cracking me up!

It totally cracks me up too.  And yeah, Debra is a complete hooker. The face, the clothes, the constant befuddlement. It's all there.

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mamadrama

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I am starting to think that Simon is a troll hired by MTV. Not just the production company, but MTV. I think they WANT him to do the social media bickering. It's all part of the package. 

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Christina

Christina

2 hours ago, evilmindatwork said:

What is the link in relation to? It doesn't work. Also, yes, I agree that Simon is a poseur and a scam artist. 

He was responding to this tweet from Morgan Freeman...

...who was commenting on this tweet:

For some reason, PTV won't load the tweets with the word "mobile" in front, and resulted in that link being broken.

2 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

I still believe Simon was sincere with his offer to help Amber to move if she left Matt.

I do too. As much as I think he is a loser, that came across to me as completely sincere. Matt abusing Amber physically doesn't ring as true to me as her abusing him, but he is so sleazy and Simon recognizes him for the trash he is. It's possible he is physically abusive and I see no reason to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I also think Simon is trashy and lies, a lot. He would still help her escape Matt, who is emotionally abusive. 

I really can't image MTV caring what Simon says, since all the "talent" {gag} post negative things about each other and the show on their social media accounts. Amber and Jenelle are huge production trashers, and my guess is that the production team and MTV just view it as drama that brings in viewers, because most of us hatewatch.

If Simon was giving up something major, they would sue him under the contract he signed. Things like Kiki giving the "talent" {gag} Xanax and pills to get them to film is completely believable to me, and if they were to try and put a stop to him for saying something like that, it would just draw attention to it. The last ratings that were posted for the Teen Mom shows weren't that good, so only those of us who follow the show are aware of it, and most of the viewers don't seem to know the things we do on PTV because people here follow the social media and tabloid stories on them. If MTV and the production team didn't like the attention he brings, they wouldn't sign him to a new season and would just film around him like they did with Leah's boyfriend who didn't want to appear. 

6 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

I am starting to think that Simon is a troll hired by MTV. Not just the production company, but MTV. I think they WANT him to do the social media bickering. It's all part of the package. 

I totally agree and was typing my response when it showed you posted. 

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guilfoyleatpp

guilfoyleatpp

8 hours ago, Christina said:
I do too. As much as I think he is a loser, that came across to me as completely sincere. Matt  abusing Amber physically doesn't ring as true to me as her abusing him, but he is so sleazy and Simon recognizes him for the trash he is. It's possible he is physically abusive and I see no reason to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I also think Simon is trashy and lies, a lot. He would still help her escape Matt, who is emotionally abusive. 

 

I think he would. And I think he offered knowing that she would never accept help from him, but also she knows that he knows that she wouldn't. But he offered sincerely in the hopes that she would realize how bad the situation is. If this dude who normally dislikes her is offering to help her escape, what else could that mean? She's in deep.

55 minutes ago, JocelynCavanaugh said:

Is Farrah not considered a POC? Her father is Middle Eastern. 

Farrah's relationship with her ethnic identity seems complicated. She may identify more as Syrian (although there is zero evidence of this), but her general appearance allows her to "pass" as a white appearing person. She could claim to be a person of color and as in many communities, she would be one of the people who travels back and forth through code switching with each group. I don't know what her childhood was like, if the other kids felt she looked "different," but in the circles she travels in now...I doubt she experiences much subtle or overt racism.

Having said that, I don't believe she identifies as a person of color. Farrah and I have similar ethnic origins and people never mistake me (or any of my siblings) for being people of color passing for white. 

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JocelynCavanaugh

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54 minutes ago, guilfoyleatpp said:

Farrah's relationship with her ethnic identity seems complicated. She may identify more as Syrian (although there is zero evidence of this), but her general appearance allows her to "pass" as a white appearing person. She could claim to be a person of color and as in many communities, she would be one of the people who travels back and forth through code switching with each group. I don't know what her childhood was like, if the other kids felt she looked "different," but in the circles she travels in now...I doubt she experiences much subtle or overt racism.

Having said that, I don't believe she identifies as a person of color. Farrah and I have similar ethnic origins and people never mistake me (or any of my siblings) for being people of color passing for white. 

I definitely understand what you're saying, and it's further complicated by the plastic surgery and horrible blonde extensions, but to me Farrah has always appeared very different from the typical Iowa Caucasian. She's definitely what some might call "exotic" or "brown." (I know these are tricky terms.) Like you, though, I've never heard her mention how she identified. Just thought it was interesting that Simon, of all people, would try to make that point. 

Also, aren't Tyler and Butch technically "Hispanic"? Race and ethnicity... so complicated! Has anybody ever studied this stuff?! (JK!!!) 

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guilfoyleatpp

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8 minutes ago, JocelynCavanaugh said:

to me Farrah has always appeared very different from the typical Iowa Caucasian. She's definitely what some might call "exotic" or "brown." (I know these are tricky terms.)

Yeah, I just realized this moving to the PNW from California. I went from my family being "the norm" (husband and son are identifiably people of color), to being the oddball. Most people here are German, Polish, Russian, Ukrainian. Hardly anyone looks like me or my family. There aren't even that many Irish people. For me, it's weird and somewhat uncomfortable. I wonder how my son is going to cope. 

I can't even imagine how much less diverse Iowa is. Just like...I can't wrap my head around it. 

Anyway, did Simon grow up in San Diego? 

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Coming from the producer that has not one colored cast member on his show

Isn't Simon a person of color? He is on the show. *scratching my head*  Is Simon referring to main cast members of the show or all of MJ Freeman shows in general? 

It would have been straight to the point if Simon had tweeted coming from the producer who allows drug use and abuse to be the forefront of a show in order to get ratings for $$$

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butterbody

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I seem to recall, around the time of the recent Syria bombings, that people were giving her shit for adding the word "Syrian" to her instagram profile. I don't know if it was there all along and people were looking for a reason to hatt on her, or if she truly did add it after the bombings. What I'm trying to say through this wake n bake haze is that at some point, Farrah may or may not have identified with her ethnicity. Does my post have a point? You don't have to answer that. 

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On ‎6‎/‎25‎/‎2017 at 0:47 AM, Christina said:

He was responding to this tweet from Morgan Freeman...

...who was commenting on this tweet:

For some reason, PTV won't load the tweets with the word "mobile" in front, and resulted in that link being broken.

I do too. As much as I think he is a loser, that came across to me as completely sincere. Matt abusing Amber physically doesn't ring as true to me as her abusing him, but he is so sleazy and Simon recognizes him for the trash he is. It's possible he is physically abusive and I see no reason to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I also think Simon is trashy and lies, a lot. He would still help her escape Matt, who is emotionally abusive. 

I really can't image MTV caring what Simon says, since all the "talent" {gag} post negative things about each other and the show on their social media accounts. Amber and Jenelle are huge production trashers, and my guess is that the production team and MTV just view it as drama that brings in viewers, because most of us hatewatch.

If Simon was giving up something major, they would sue him under the contract he signed. Things like Kiki giving the "talent" {gag} Xanax and pills to get them to film is completely believable to me, and if they were to try and put a stop to him for saying something like that, it would just draw attention to it. The last ratings that were posted for the Teen Mom shows weren't that good, so only those of us who follow the show are aware of it, and most of the viewers don't seem to know the things we do on PTV because people here follow the social media and tabloid stories on them. If MTV and the production team didn't like the attention he brings, they wouldn't sign him to a new season and would just film around him like they did with Leah's boyfriend who didn't want to appear. 

I totally agree and was typing my response when it showed you posted. 

I do believe MTV is concerned with what is put out there. 

There is a big difference between a cast member posting "They edited the scene to make me look bad" or "MTV left out what I said" versus Simon tweeting "Kiki is supplying pills to the Ryan".  The cast members tweeting shit about one another is one one level and is the norm in reality tv land. Leah or Jenelle having a fit about MTV on Twitter doesn't put MTV in a bad light and possibly bring them some legal troubles such as tweeting to the public that a producer is supplying cast members with drugs and those cast members are driving under the influence while being filmed for the show. MTV can control their main players to a point. They can force their main players to sign contracts with clauses about being sued if they put out certain information. Those idiots need that MTV money. Simon is not dependent upon MTV for money and likely doesn't have the same clauses in his contracts. That is probably why we saw one of Leah or Jenelle's friend flaunting an MTV check to one of the online tabloids. 

MTV makes sure they edit any and all books that the cast members write. Well, they don't write them, but you know what I mean. They were all over Matt's book before it could be published. The same holds for the other cast members. MTV has the right to approve what goes in the books that are published. 

BTW Isn't the book publisher affiliated with MTV? 

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DoctorWhovian

DoctorWhovian

Simon just wants attention. I don't believe a word he says. I've dealt with too many boys like him in my life to give him the time of day.

 

I think his style appeals more to those who get more personally involved in the show (looking up,everything the girls/cast do, getting more personal with the insults, etc.). Not my thing but he knows his audience and how to keep himself relevant so I can give him props for that. 

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Christina

Christina

Kiki might be getting pissed but they have decided to ignore it. I haven't even seen an article on that subject, but his bashing of Debra had articles in every online tabloid.

He is under contract because he had to stop doing his Snap Chat commentaries:

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Maharincess

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On 6/25/2017 at 0:34 PM, butterbody said:

I seem to recall, around the time of the recent Syria bombings, that people were giving her shit for adding the word "Syrian" to her instagram profile. I don't know if it was there all along and people were looking for a reason to hatt on her, or if she truly did add it after the bombings. What I'm trying to say through this wake n bake haze is that at some point, Farrah may or may not have identified with her ethnicity. Does my post have a point? You don't have to answer that. 

Wake and bake haze.  That's my coffee in the mornings...the best part of waking up.

  Will you be my new best friend?  

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On June 25, 2017 at 11:38 AM, JocelynCavanaugh said:

Is Farrah not considered a POC? Her father is Middle Eastern. 

Hmmm… I think Simon did not understand the political point Morgan and Milano were trying to make.

Interesting question about Farrah and her identity. Not sure if she relates culturally but she must see in the mirror every morning that she's not some regular white chick. Sophia looks ethnic as well. I hope Farrah stops doing stuff to herself because she was in my mind the prettiest of the Teen Mom girls.

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