THT Spoilers

[Umbelina]

8 minutes ago, Brn2bwild said:

Didn't see this posted yet, but more information about Emily's next posting.

"We're not sure where this guy is coming from," executive producer Warren Littlefield teases. "He is an economic architect of Gilead, and yet he has regrets. He's in a complicated marriage, and Emily is assigned to be a Handmaid at his household. He just doesn't play by any of the rules, and so we are whipsawed with his character, wondering, 'Good guy? Bad guy? I'm not sure.' And that plays to a wonderful conclusion in Season 2."

Maybe Emily turns into a one-woman Bloody Mary, killing Commanders everywhere she goes.  Or, maybe he gets her out?

[NoSpam]

Emily is the only handmaid I think is really capable of escaping. And what happened to Mayday? Was the bombing a Mayday operation? So many questions.

[DuckyinKy]

Guys, in the promo for Ep 11, I think Fred & SJ are arguing in the abandoned home where Nick took June to meet Hannah. I think the doors and light match the abandoned home as opposed to the Waterford home.  If they are there and June is not - then she got away. Then again...gah my family tells me I watch TV waaay tooo closely. Is it me? 

Edited June 20, 2018 by DuckyinKy

[Anela]

3 minutes ago, DuckyinKy said:

Guys, in the promo for Ep 11, I think Fred & SJ are arguing in the abandoned home where Nick took June to meet Hannah. I think the doors and light match the abandoned home as opposed to the Waterford home.  If they are there and June is not - then she got away. Then again...gah my family tells me I watch TV waaay tooo closely. Is it me? 

I haven't seen the episode, so I don't know what the home looks like, but I guess that means Serena has nothing, because June has managed to get away again - not that they're punished for the rape. Boohoo, Serena. The baby isn't *yours*. 

[The Mighty Peanut]

3 hours ago, DuckyinKy said:

Guys, in the promo for Ep 11, I think Fred & SJ are arguing in the abandoned home where Nick took June. I think the doors and light match the abandoned home as opposed to the Waterford home.  Then again...gah my family tells me I watch TV waaay tooo closely. Is it me? 

Not just you, I saw that too. That house had natural light whereas you need a night vision camera to watch scenes in the Waterford house a lot of the time, and it would make sense for Fred and Serena to try and quietly collect their handmaid before any real damage is done. Gilead is a game of thrones like any other political structure and if someone successfully argued Waterford put two children and a woman uterus in harm's way, he's toast, especially if he is already under suspicion for being in cahoots with Nick. 

If the baby does die, I'd say there's a very, very small chance Fred could go down for rape IF the right people manipulated him into a weak position and enough people whose status is higher than June's argued that induction via consensual sex is natural,  but violently trying to fuck a baby out of the womb against doctor's orders is another thing entirely (sorry for the crass language but it was all I could think of during the scene). Aunt Lydia seems to be viewed as an authority despite being female and June DID warn her Fred was a danger to a baby. I know, I know...it won't happen. It's just that Fred needs to die slowly and horribly and I'm getting impatient.

Edited June 20, 2018 by The Mighty Peanut

[Joana]

I don't think it has anything to do with the rape as Serena says "This is all because of your sick infatuation with her" (which would implicate that June managed to get away because he allowed her to leave the household in order to meet her daughter) and she's clearly blaming him for losing the baby, while she's the one who instigated the rape. 

It does look like June somehow managed to escape, but I'm not sure there's a realistic way to pull it off. Or maybe she is found, but not by Fred, and since this is the 2nd time she has managed to get away, they're being punished by having the baby assigned to someone else. 

Anyway, we'll have to wait and see how it plays out. It's certainly intriguing. 

[Tooch]

This is more speculation than spoiler, but I think that June ends up escaping, which is why they're setting up Emily with a "mysterious" new commander so we can maintain a link back to Gilead/Aunt Lydia/Janine/etc next season while June is either on the run or in Canada. I bet they also have a storyline planned for the fertile young commander. 

Frankly, if they send June back and give Holly (I am convinced that episode title is a reference to the baby's name as well as June's mom) to the Waterfords or another hideous couple I might just have to be out. After today's episode, I cannot accept that June will just be sent to another post.

ETA: The promo shows June packing emergency supplies and I think the car she's in is actually at the meet house, and she tries to ram it through the door. It seems she's unsuccessful, which is why she fires the gun for help after making a go of it on foot? My fantasy outcome is that she encounters the Female Railroad in this way--from the book her story is from one of their safehouses in Maine, yes? If she was over an hour from Boston then the house they were at could have been in Maine, and it would fit the rural setting--even southern Maine is pretty woodsy. 

Edited June 20, 2018 by Tooch

[lavenderblue]

I would love that. If the showrunners are concerned with maintaining focus on June, then the best way to use her going forward is to show how someone in her position escapes, step by step (introduce us to the Femaleroad) and show us the outside world beginning to work against/towards rescuing those in Gilead. Emily and whomever else remains can be used to continue telling the Gilead story. I kind of assume Fred's a goner -- no spoilers on that, just seems a strong possibility -- but if it's true Yvonne's staying on, show us repercussions for Serena in yet another part of the world. We could go back to the Colonies, but I'd be somewhat more interested in seeing Jezebels again -- they can spare on the rape scenes, but if this is where lots of formerly powerful, well-educated women ended up, how are THEY doing? Did Moira's escape, and the Mayday activities there, inspire any more incipient rebellion? These are women in position to know a lot of crap about the commanders and that's a whole side of things that hasn't been heavily dealt with.

There are just far more world-building possibilities if they let June move on and get to Maine, at the very least.

[Stephanie23]

Yes, SJ and Fred are in the house where June meet Hannah.

 

But the scene I worry about in the promo is the last one where June is in the snow kneeling and shooting a rifle in the sky.

Maybe she is in labour and needs help even from Gilead and the familiar place that is mentioned in episode 12 description that she is in is Red Center or something like that.

God I hope that's not the case because after the rape I need her to go to Canada ASAP

[VagueDisclaimer]

6 minutes ago, Stephanie23 said:

Yes, SJ and Fred are in the house where June meet Hannah.

 

But the scene I worry about in the promo is the last one where June is in the snow kneeling and shooting a rifle in the sky.

Maybe she is in labour and needs help even from Gilead and the familiar place that is mentioned in episode 12 description that she is in is Red Center or something like that.

God I hope that's not the case because after the rape I need her to go to Canada ASAP

I was thinking the Red Center as well for the familiar place, as well. I don’t think she’s going to end up back at the Waterfords, but i sincerely doubt she gets to Canada this season. They retconned every bit of progress or change these characters made early on in the season just to get everybody back in Gilead. They’re going to be there at least until mid s3, i think. I’ve also thought we might see Emily escape before June does and we’ll see the fall of Gilead from the inside through June.

[GraceK]

10 minutes ago, VagueDisclaimer said:

I was thinking the Red Center as well for the familiar place, as well. I don’t think she’s going to end up back at the Waterfords, but i sincerely doubt she gets to Canada this season. They retconned every bit of progress or change these characters made early on in the season just to get everybody back in Gilead. They’re going to be there at least until mid s3, i think. I’ve also thought we might see Emily escape before June does and we’ll see the fall of Gilead from the inside through June.

This makes sense to me as well. She has warned Aunt Lydia in her own way about the Waterford’s, and if she does shoot that rifle off in an attempt to get help because she’s in labor, it’s possible, just possible that they take her the red center to recover from a traumatic birth. Best case scenario is the Waterford’s are rightly blamed for endangering the baby and suffer consequences, ( it’s my personal theory June’s baby is given to a more “deserving “ family)  although of course it will suck for June no matter what cause she loses the baby either way and is still stuck in Gilead.

[Shaynaa]

I'm just not sure how this will work.  June being sent back to the Waterfords would be a huge retread.  It's really hard to imagine her just getting a new placement.  We have seen what she goes through as a handmaid.  It really isn't interesting to go back to square one just with new people.  It's possible she could meet up with the female underground railroad although again, kind of a retread.  Moira getting out was too damned easy last season.  I just really don't want the Waterfords to get that baby.  I hate wishing for a dead baby but it would be easier. 

What frustrates me is Fred and Serena are going to get away the rape.  June didn't tell anyone and I bet she gives birth alone.  They will just claim any bruising is from the labor and her escape from the house.

[Joana]

Sending June back to the Waterfords again would be like... beating the decomposing remains of a dead horse, at this point. Seriously. I've lost some faith in the writers this season, but I don't think they'll be so stupid to do that.

Also, letting them have the baby, if only for a moment, after everything they've done to June, would basically be the definition of misery porn. Don't go there, show.

[Anela]

Was the description for Nick finding that justice was swift and brutal (something like that), for this episode, or the next one? 

[GraceK]

59 minutes ago, Anela said:

Was the description for Nick finding that justice was swift and brutal (something like that), for this episode, or the next one? 

I think it’s the next one.

[Anela]

Just now, GraceK said:

I think it’s the next one.

Do you think that means he's the one in the water?

[GraceK]

14 minutes ago, Anela said:

Do you think that means he's the one in the water?

I don’t think so. I think Isaac and Eden are the ones who are punished. I have no proof at all but I believe Nick survives the season. ?‍♀️  Anything is possible with this show though. The way it’s phrased it could be Nick, but I  really hope not.

Edited June 21, 2018 by GraceK

[Shaynaa]

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Episode 12: Postpartum

June finds herself back in a familiar place. Nick is rocked by Gilead's brutal response to a crime. Emily is assigned to a mysterious new house.

The episode that just dropped was episode 10.  Current guess is it is NIck and Eden or Isaac and Eden in the pool.  More inclined to think Isaac.  This makes Nick and June's storylines sound separate.

[VagueDisclaimer]

22 minutes ago, Shaynaa said:

The episode that just dropped was episode 10.  Current guess is it is NIck and Eden or Isaac and Eden in the pool.  More inclined to think Isaac.  This makes Nick and June's storylines sound separate.

I think Nick survives this season. And after Nick witnessed the kiss between Isaac and Eden and had his indifferent response, I think him seeing the punishment railed down on those two is really going to shock him. I’m curious if Eden confesses to someone(aren’t her father and sister guesting in ep 12?), as she was beyond distraught last episode, and I can see her wanting forgiveness, and getting punished in the process.

Man, the Waterford house is going down. All the Canadian drama, twice “lost”, pregnant handmaid, shot driver caught in suspicious circumstances, econowife, that was bestowed as a gift, cheating on one driver with the other... My only sadness of this teardown would be losing Rita as a supporting player. Can they all just move to a new rapist’s house together?

I think Nick and June might be separated until the last episode of the season.

Edited June 21, 2018 by VagueDisclaimer

[Guest]

33 minutes ago, VagueDisclaimer said:

55 minutes ago, Shaynaa said:

The episode that just dropped was episode 10.  Current guess is it is NIck and Eden or Isaac and Eden in the pool.  More inclined to think Isaac.  This makes Nick and June's storylines sound separate.

I think Nick survives this season

There's a very brief clip in the S2 trailer (linked below, it's at 1:24) of Nick screaming and he appears wet (the trailer is super dark and I'm not certain though). From the looks of the pool scene, it appears the girl's legs and feet are very small and I have to believe that that's Eden. I think it's Nick who gets drowned along with her. (Fingers crossed that it isn't though...I like him so much better than June's husband.)

[NoSpam]

3 minutes ago, Giant Misfit said:

There's a very brief clip in the S2 trailer (linked below, it's at 1:24) of Nick screaming and he appears wet (the trailer is super dark and I'm not certain though). From the looks of the pool scene, it appears the girl's legs and feet are very small and I have to believe that that's Eden. I think it's Nick who gets drowned along with her. (Fingers crossed that it isn't though...I like him so much better than June's husband.)

That was from when June fell out the window and he found her lying on the ground. It was raining.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, NoSpam said:

That was from when June fell out the window and he found her lying on the ground. It was raining.

GOOD! Thank you! I feel a little less unsettled about his fate next week. Other than, you know, that bullet wound.

[sam77]

All this talk of the pool reminds me of a report which is suspected to be an urban legend of a father in a country under Sharia law gathering his family around to watch him drown his daughter as a punishment as she been seen in the company of a man without a chaperone.

It got me thinking about how Eden’s father might react to any suggestion of impropriety with Issac.  

[NoSpam]

23 minutes ago, sam77 said:

All this talk of the pool reminds me of a report which is suspected to be an urban legend of a father in a country under Sharia law gathering his family around to watch him drown his daughter as a punishment as she been seen in the company of a man without a chaperone.

It got me thinking about how Eden’s father might react to any suggestion of impropriety with Issac.  

Eden isn't his responsibility anymore, she's Nick's. But the parents might inform on Eden, for sure.

[GraceK]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2018/06/20/done-watching-the-handmaids-tale-after-that-brutal-scene-the-episodes-writer-responds/

got this article from the news and media thread.

 

I don’t think it’s Fred that set them up, which leaves open the possibility that it could be Isaac after all. Who’s else has motive against Nick? We’ve seen through spoilers someone ends up on that wall, it would make sense that kidnapping a commanders driver, risking a pregnant handmaid would be a death sentence and that end up with Issac hanging there.

[Umbelina]

1 hour ago, GraceK said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2018/06/20/done-watching-the-handmaids-tale-after-that-brutal-scene-the-episodes-writer-responds/

got this article from the news and media thread.

 

I don’t think it’s Fred that set them up, which leaves open the possibility that it could be Isaac after all. Who’s else has motive against Nick? We’ve seen through spoilers someone ends up on that wall, it would make sense that kidnapping a commanders driver, risking a pregnant handmaid would be a death sentence and that end up with Issac hanging there.

From the article:

“I do worry about people not wanting to watch because this was a very hard episode to watch. I have to say episodes 11 through 13 are just unbelievable. There’s just this ramp-up adrenaline, momentous, amazing feeling,” she said. “Especially the next episode right after this one, it’s incredible. One of the best episodes of television ever.”

Episode 10 did end up with quite the cliffhanger as Nick was kidnapped and Offred was stranded after her reunion with Hannah. “You have got to keep watching,” Chang added. “There are amazing triumphs as well as huge upsets. I think people will really enjoy the next episode. . . . It’s really compelling what’s coming up next. Please don’t stop watching.”

[chocolatine]

2 minutes ago, Umbelina said:

“Especially the next episode right after this one, it’s incredible. One of the best episodes of television ever.”

This would mean a lot more if it came from someone who isn't involved in making/promoting the show. 

[Umbelina]

25 minutes ago, chocolatine said:

This would mean a lot more if it came from someone who isn't involved in making/promoting the show. 

(sorry, if anyone knows how to remove quotes please PM me)  Double quote.

25 minutes ago, chocolatine said:

This would mean a lot more if it came from someone who isn't involved in making/promoting the show. 

Maybe, but she's a writer, and I liked her other points.  Also, I am holding on to this part:  “There are amazing triumphs..."

I think June may, just maybe, escape this time.  We have others in place to continue with with the Gilead side of things.  Maybe not though, I keep thinking Fred, Eden, and Nick are goners.  I can't imagine Serena Joy will exit the cast though, she may however, end up in Jezebel's.  Some horny Jezebel frequenting Commander may want to have her and subdue her pride and haughtiness, and she's an attractive woman.  It would certainly give her new beats to play.  For that matter, they could even write in her real life pregnancy, if they don't sterilize her immediately, or she isn't already sterile from the gunshot.  He could just pretend to be deporting her to the colonies.
 

http://www.abc6.com/story/38471584/the-handmaids-tale-writer-reveals-secrets-behind-the-last-ceremony-episode

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Joseph Fiennes, who plays Fred Waterford, spoke with us about how difficult it was filming that scene which eventually led to Offred’s reunion with her daughter. How difficult was it for you to write it?

Well, yeah, it was difficult to write that. [Laughs] It was very difficult to write the reunion scenebecause I had to really imagine if this were my kid. It was definitely difficult to write that. But, I was happy that I was writing the truth. What I was trying to do was write the truth of the experience of sexual assault. I feel like it’s important to honor the people who have gone through it — to be honest about how terrible and brutal it is. I think it’s brilliant the way that both Yvonne [Strahovski, who plays Serena] and Joseph played that scene, because you can tell that they were not expecting Offred to fight. They’ve had a million ceremonies with her. Serena comes to really regret it. Fred’s obviously affected so much that he arranged [the reunion]. The one thing Offred’s been asking to do is see Hannah, and out of guilt, Fred arranges it.

 

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The mythology of Gilead expands a bit in this episode when we learn about a character who is promoted in the government to Commander of Hearts simply because his wife was able to get pregnant without the help of a handmaid. Did the show add that layer to Gilead or was that already there in the book?

That wasn’t in the book. We wanted Fred to feel inferior in that moment because it’s supposed to be a celebration of Fred’s handmaid giving birth. This is supposed to be a huge milestone for him. What happens is this young upstart commander comes in and rains on his parade. To me, Fred feels outclassed and upstaged because there’s a potential future in which he’s going to be rendered obsolete. He’s going to be an old, decrepit commander with an infertile wife and a handmaid. He’s going to be displaced by these young upstart commanders who are able to get their wives pregnant when Fred hasn’t been able to do that.

 

except, why would Fred get another handmaid if he has a child?  hmmm
 

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What would you hope, as a viewer and a writer, to see in season 3?

I think we’re going to see uplifting moments in season 3. That is what I’m hoping to see in season 3.

 

Please make this be true.

More clues that June may escape?  The article also mentions that they cut an Emily scene for time, but that it will be on a different episode.

Edited June 21, 2018 by Umbelina

[Pearlinbloom]

I’ve always wondered if the commanders would extend their use of handmaids by wanting not just a healthy baby, but a healthy *boy* baby. A child they could raise to be a commander someday who would carry on their name. A girl child will just become a wife. 

So maybe phase two of Gilead could involve that?

[chocolatine]

Israeli trailer is out:

 

It looks like June is still hiding in the abandoned country house when Fred and Serena come looking for her, and she has a gun! Why oh why doesn't she kill them both?!? Probably saving the ammunition for her attempt to cross the border, and maybe also hedging in case she gets caught. Oh, and SJ seems to be putting all the blame for the rape on Fred. If there's any kind of redemption for her I'll be really mad.

ETA: The promo appears to have been geo-blocked minutes after I posted it. :(

Edited June 21, 2018 by chocolatine

[Anela]

18 hours ago, VagueDisclaimer said:

I think Nick survives this season. And after Nick witnessed the kiss between Isaac and Eden and had his indifferent response, I think him seeing the punishment railed down on those two is really going to shock him. I’m curious if Eden confesses to someone(aren’t her father and sister guesting in ep 12?), as she was beyond distraught last episode, and I can see her wanting forgiveness, and getting punished in the process.

Man, the Waterford house is going down. All the Canadian drama, twice “lost”, pregnant handmaid, shot driver caught in suspicious circumstances, econowife, that was bestowed as a gift, cheating on one driver with the other... My only sadness of this teardown would be losing Rita as a supporting player. Can they all just move to a new rapist’s house together?

I think Nick and June might be separated until the last episode of the season.

Ohh, there was a kiss? In the trailer for the season, it looks like Rita is whispering something to Nick, and he turns to face the camera as they both look at something or someone. 

7 minutes ago, chocolatine said:

Israeli trailer is out:

 

It looks like June is still hiding in the abandoned country house when Fred and Serena come looking for her, and she has a gun! Why oh why doesn't she kill them both?!? Probably saving the ammunition for her attempt to cross the border, and maybe also hedging in case she gets caught. Oh, and SJ seems to be putting all the blame for the rape on Fred. If there's any kind of redemption for her I'll be really mad.

This won't play for me. :/

[chocolatine]

2 minutes ago, Anela said:

This won't play for me. :/

It worked a few minutes ago when I posted it, but now it seems to be geo-blocked. :(

Maybe Hulu realized the Israeli promos were a lot more revealing than Hulu's own promos and asked the network not to show them outside of Israel.

[Umbelina]

4 minutes ago, chocolatine said:

It worked a few minutes ago when I posted it, but now it seems to be geo-blocked. :(

Maybe Hulu realized the Israeli promos were a lot more revealing than Hulu's own promos and asked the network not to show them outside of Israel.

Dang!  Can you summarize any differences?

[chocolatine]

2 hours ago, Umbelina said:

Dang!  Can you summarize any differences?

I'll try:

The promo starts with Serena and Fred barging into the abandoned house, Serena screaming "Offred!" June appears to still be inside the house, hiding and holding a gun. Serena and Fred are fighting like we saw in the Hulu preview - Fred saying that Serena didn't show June an ounce of kindness and Serena saying that Fred raped her (conveniently not mentioning her own role in the rape).

Then we get the scene of June trying to bust through the garage door with the car (apparently the door doesn't unlock from the inside). Then she appears to go into labor in the middle of nowhere, saying "not now, baby", then she's lying on what looks like a sheet on the ground, bleeding heavily.

Edited June 21, 2018 by chocolatine

[VagueDisclaimer]

59 minutes ago, Anela said:

Ohh, there was a kiss? In the trailer for the season, it looks like Rita is whispering something to Nick, and he turns to face the camera as they both look at something or someone. 

The kiss i’m referring to was the one Eden and Isaac shared in the last ep. 

[Anela]

Just now, VagueDisclaimer said:

The kiss i’m referring to was the one Eden and Isaac shared in the last ep. 

I haven't watched it.

[LittleRed84]

So I was trying to find a place on the web where you guys find the actors that will appear in each episode? Well, I didn’t find that. But I did stumble across THIS. 

Ideas- why would we meet her sister???

[chocolatine]

43 minutes ago, LittleRed84 said:

Ideas- why would we meet [Eden's] sister???

Someone upthread has said that we'll meet both Eden's father and sister. My (bleak) prediction is that after Eden is killed, presumably as punishment for kissing Isaac, her father comes to retrieve her body so the family can bury her. He brings Eden's little sister with him to show her what can happen to her if she, too, chooses to sin. Or (even bleaker) the father tries to compensate for Eden's sins by offering Nick his other daughter as a replacement child bride.

[LittleRed84]

23 minutes ago, chocolatine said:

Someone upthread has said that we'll meet both Eden's father and sister. My (bleak) prediction is that after Eden is killed, presumably as punishment for kissing Isaac, her father comes to retrieve her body so the family can bury her. He brings Eden's little sister with him to show her what can happen to her if she, too, chooses to sin. Or (even bleaker) the father tries to compensate for Eden's sins by offering Nick his other daughter as a replacement child bride.

Ok so I had a crazy idea about this.

Total guesses here:

Let’s say that after Nicks blatant disregard for Edens feelings and realizing that he doesn’t care, she goes back to Isaac. She tells him something about Nick. Maybe that Nick doesn’t love her or about thinking he likes June. Maybe makes up lies. Says she loves him (Isaac). The only way to be together is to get rid of Nick. So Isaac, infatuated in return, gets some Eyes on his side with these stories, to follow and take out Nick (or turn him in for the suspicions about June or the letters etc.) thinking he’ll be a hero. Then, they can be together. But somewhere along the line it is found out that Eden and Isaac have sinned/adultery and are killed for that plus their setup of Nick. (Maybe Nick spills the beans about the kiss when he learns they are trying to frame him). 

[chocolatine]

6 minutes ago, LittleRed84 said:

Ok so I had a crazy idea about this.

Total guesses here:

Let’s say that after Nicks blatant disregard for Edens feelings and realizing that he doesn’t care, she goes back to Isaac. She tells him something about Nick. Maybe that Nick doesn’t love her or about thinking he likes June. Maybe makes up lies. Says she loves him (Isaac). The only way to be together is to get rid of Nick. So Isaac, infatuated in return, gets some Eyes on his side with these stories, to follow and take out Nick (or turn him in for the suspicions about June or the letters etc.) thinking he’ll be a hero. Then, they can be together. But somewhere along the line it is found out that Eden and Isaac have sinned/adultery and are killed for that plus their setup of Nick. (Maybe Nick spills the beans about the kiss when he learns they are trying to frame him). 

It's possible, but I'm pretty sure Isaac is not an Eye, he's just a plain guard. Nick outranks him. If anything, I can see Isaac bragging to the wrong person that he got to kiss Eden, and that's how they both end up in the pool. Or they make googly eyes at each other during one of their shopping trips, and someone else notices. Or they kiss outside the Waterford house again, Fred catches them, and orders the punishment to distract everyone from the fact that June has gone missing again.

[Umbelina]

I think Eden is a goner, and probably, so is Issac, and possibly even Nick.

My further speculation is that Fred is gone soon as well, but possibly not until next year, hence Emily's new Commander coming in.

I think they will want to keep Serena Joy on the show, in what capacity though?  Not sure.  It may be to show what happens to Wives with no Commander, it may be Jezebels, it may be as an Aunt or in the Colonies, she may actually defect to Alaska after all.  I just can't see the show losing her.

I think there is a even odds chance June makes it to that cabin as well.

[DuckyinKy]

Hope this helps:

 

https://streamable.com/epalv

This is the Israeli promo

[LBS]

@DuckyinKy thank you!

[Joana]

I don't understand why they're wasting their time arguing whose fault it is that she's disappeared and acting like it's a done deal and she's gone for good instead of trying to find her as she realistically couldn't go too far. Also, how did they NOT find her? Where did she go?

It's very confusing. But I guess the whole point of a promo is to make you wonder. 

Edited June 22, 2018 by Joana

[VagueDisclaimer]

1 hour ago, Joana said:

I don't understand why they're wasting their time arguing whose fault it is that she's disappeared and acting like it's a done deal and she's gone for good instead of trying to find her as she realistically couldn't go too far. Also, how did they NOT find her? Where did she go?

It's very confusing. But I guess the whole point of a promo is to make you wonder. 

I doubt they’re aware of what happened to Nick, so they arrive to a missing car, driver, and handmaid. They don’t realize that June is on foot. 

[VagueDisclaimer]

2 hours ago, LittleRed84 said:

Ok so I had a crazy idea about this.

Total guesses here:

Let’s say that after Nicks blatant disregard for Edens feelings and realizing that he doesn’t care, she goes back to Isaac. She tells him something about Nick. Maybe that Nick doesn’t love her or about thinking he likes June. Maybe makes up lies. Says she loves him (Isaac). The only way to be together is to get rid of Nick. So Isaac, infatuated in return, gets some Eyes on his side with these stories, to follow and take out Nick (or turn him in for the suspicions about June or the letters etc.) thinking he’ll be a hero. Then, they can be together. But somewhere along the line it is found out that Eden and Isaac have sinned/adultery and are killed for that plus their setup of Nick. (Maybe Nick spills the beans about the kiss when he learns they are trying to frame him). 

While anything is possible, I don’t think Eden is this clever or this fiendish. She might be indoctrinated, but she really seems like an innocent 15-year old girl just doing what she’s been told. She was devastated by her own actions and even more devastated that Nick wasn’t, she has no idea what to do with herself. I can see her continuing to seek comfort in Isaac or confessing her sins to the wrong person and it ends in the worst way. aka the Gilead way. 

 

3 hours ago, chocolatine said:

Someone upthread has said that we'll meet both Eden's father and sister. My (bleak) prediction is that after Eden is killed, presumably as punishment for kissing Isaac, her father comes to retrieve her body so the family can bury her. He brings Eden's little sister with him to show her what can happen to her if she, too, chooses to sin. Or (even bleaker) the father tries to compensate for Eden's sins by offering Nick his other daughter as a replacement child bride.

How disturbing and likely. 

Edited June 22, 2018 by VagueDisclaimer

[AnswersWanted]

It appears that June might wander away from the house, probably trying to get her bearings and she finds another abandoned home. 

It does look like the area was an old neighborhood that perhaps was never utilized under the regime, which would explain why the car was left in the garage and she attempts to take it, but obviously without power she can’t get the garage door to open, and she’s most likely too weak and physically compromised to try and manually open it. 

I had a feeling that they were going to show the “if you had only showed her one ounce of kindness” quote from Fred in this episode. 

He needs to choke on his own intestines for ever spouting that kind of bullshit considering the world he fashioned and created for those like her to barely exist in, to be regularly raped and brutalized and taken away from their families, their babies. 

 And Serena can rightly fuck all the way off with her claim about Fred raping June, because no, Fred did not rape June, not alone, tgey raped her together. 

Serena was just as much apart of the attack, just as guilty, just as disgusting and deplorable. 

 I am not looking forward to seeing those two monsters arguing about each other‘s fuck ups, I want them to hang. 

I think this episode we’re going to see just how much power or lack there of Fred actually has, because clearly they are not trying to alert anyone that June is missing again, they know what that would mean for themselves, not just for her. 

They are trying to save their own asses, Serena of course also trying to get her blood baby as well. 

From the episode’s description though, I do believe they are found out and therefore punished, hopefully it’ll be a good one, or ones, plural punishments would be very welcome. 

Edited June 22, 2018 by AnswersWanted

[mamadrama]

Yvonne posted an insta picture of her and Fred in a courtroom. It was only up for a day.

[LittleRed84]

Where can I find the episode descriptions for the next few episodes? Also the cast lists? These are always referenced (like some knew Hannah was on the list for epi 10) but I can’t find them. Thanks!

[Becks]

I absolutely can't get over Fred's 'if you had only shown that girl one ounce of kindness...' from the promo. Truly, WTF? Dude is just bananas.