THT Spoilers

[AnswersWanted]

10 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

See June Bankhole as the Renegade Handmaid!

Able to slip thru borders, tell Aunts what she will and will not do, control Commander's and their houses, kill Commander's, stare in to a camera lens defiantly! 

She is the Renegade Handmaid!

Cue the theme music as we see a large profile of June staring at us all with her smirk firmly in place, standing atop the bodies of all her enemies, handmaid cape flapping behind her in the wind. 

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I think the only way June will barely survive is if she has someone beat her up and tells a tale that she tried to stop Lawrence from leaving and stealing the children and he beat the crap out of her.

Unless June is reassigned to Nick and his new wife (if he has one), we are looking at possibly more rape porn next season as June will be reassigned.  

I was also thinking they might have Lawrence sacrifice himself for her since Eleanor no longer is in the picture, she was his heart, so the show could use his pain to give that advantage to June. 

Definitely they will have to reassign her, which means we will either get some other random Commander and wife we have no relationship with or probably have seen before, or she could get Nick like you said which really...then the show will basically have turned into 90210. 

Nick and June trying to “hide” their feelings while his new wife either plays dumb or is too dumb to notice. 

I am definitely seeing some sort of hard reset, yet again, with this finale.

They are once again going to drag shit out, including June’s capacity.

6 hours ago, VagueDisclaimer said:

S3E13 spoilers, found on Reddit, originally from THT spoiler FB page:

  Reveal spoiler

💢💢💢 SPOILER ALERT💢💢💢

I just wanted to tell our lovely members that we have confirmation that the plane full of children MAKE IT to Canada!
Nick does NOT make an appearance at all in episode 13. 
June does not leave Gilead.
Rita makes it out of Gilead and meets up with Luke.

💢UPDATE💢
We can now sadly report that Hannah does not escape Gilead. She is not seen boarding the plane in the final episode

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Welp, I can honestly say none of this surprises me, not even a little bit. 

Also, hahahahahahahahahaaaa, these show runners can FRO.

No Nick at all, so where is he exactly and are we really supposed to care so much we look forward to potentially seeing him return in season 4? As if. 

So Rita definitely won't be getting anymore screen time now, she'll be another Moira and Emily, only to be seen every 4 or 5 episodes,  give or take, for 2 to 3 minutes tops. 

Maybe they'll make her Holly's nanny...christ almighty this show can do nothing right. 

And June stays and survives, because of course she does and we reset yet again, how original. 

It hasn't even aired yet and I am already bored and over it. 

1 hour ago, kieyra said:

I’m assuming that since this is the spoiler thread, spoiler tags aren’t necessary.

So if those spoilers are correct and June and Hannah remain in Gilead, I guess this show really is going to Groundhog Day it for ten seasons.

Also, so I can quote myself later, if June stays in Gilead, that means Fred and Serena are going back to Gilead, because show.

Sure does look like it.

The most hellish Groundhog Day ever, with rape and torture on the menu, what fun...

I absolutely agree, Serena and Fred are forever tethered to June, if she's in Gilead they will have to go back to keep interacting with her. 

This show doesn't want to break up this threesome no matter how tiresome and pointless it's become. 

[Umbelina]

It's interesting that Rita is escaping as well.  

I've always wondered if she was lying to Serena when she said her son Mathew died during the coup.  Maybe he didn't die, but escaped to fight with the rebels?  Or even just escaped to Canada?  

If they are bothering to send her to Canada, I hope that means they are expanding her story, and it would be cool if it involved her son.

[kieyra]

Not trying to be overly negative, but no one in Canada seems to get their story expanded. 

[Umbelina]

3 minutes ago, kieyra said:

Not trying to be overly negative, but no one in Canada seems to get their story expanded. 

I'm hoping that with all that is (finally!) happening outside of of Gilead proper now, that will change.  😉

Why send Rita there if there isn't some kind of story for her though, it's an odd choice, and I always did think she was lying to Serena about Mathew dying.  If they didn't want to use her, just leave her stuck in Gilead, unseen.

Edited August 8, 2019 by Umbelina

[AnswersWanted]

20 minutes ago, kieyra said:

Not trying to be overly negative, but no one in Canada seems to get their story expanded. 

I don't think you're being negative at all. It's just the facts as the show has presented them to us. 

How many times have they told us again and again whose story this show is about, it's June's tale so how can we expect to see much of the other characters when they aren't close to her physically.

Rita being sent to Canada is no different than how they put Moira there and Emily as well.

It was believed those two characters would have had their stories expanded on but it never happened. Why would Rita be any different from them?

Canada has become this sort of holding center for characters to just wait around until the show wants to remember they're there. 

Rita could been a huge player in this current season while she was still in Gilead.

She could have been helping June with the resistance movement, but instead she had hardly 10 full minutes of screentime this entire season. 

I seriously doubt entering Canada is going to get her this new importance to the overall story

If anything it's the show's way of getting her out of Gilead so they don't have to try to keep coming up with reasons why she and June would run into each other. 

[mamadrama]

8 hours ago, AnswersWanted said:

I don't think you're being negative at all. It's just the facts as the show has presented them to us. 

How many times have they told us again and again whose story this show is about, it's June's tale so how can we expect to see much of the other characters when they aren't close to her physically.

Rita being sent to Canada is no different than how they put Moira there and Emily as well.

It was believed those two characters would have had their stories expanded on but it never happened. Why would Rita be any different from them?

Canada has become this sort of holding center for characters to just wait around until the show wants to remember they're there. 

Rita could been a huge player in this current season while she was still in Gilead.

She could have been helping June with the resistance movement, but instead she had hardly 10 full minutes of screentime this entire season. 

I seriously doubt entering Canada is going to get her this new importance to the overall story

If anything it's the show's way of getting her out of Gilead so they don't have to try to keep coming up with reasons why she and June would run into each other. 

Canada has become the other hallway, a la BOY MEETS WORLD. The one that Minkus and the other teacher disappeared down. 

8 hours ago, Umbelina said:

I'm hoping that with all that is (finally!) happening outside of of Gilead proper now, that will change.  😉

Why send Rita there if there isn't some kind of story for her though, it's an odd choice, and I always did think she was lying to Serena about Mathew dying.  If they didn't want to use her, just leave her stuck in Gilead, unseen.

And yet they've sent Moira, Luke, and Emily there and they've drifted around plotless with only the random occasional check-in. 

[Umbelina]

5 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

Canada has become the other hallway, a la BOY MEETS WORLD. The one that Minkus and the other teacher disappeared down. 

In the book, Atwood had the Gilead underground railroad going to Canada, because it had already happened here, during slavery.  She liked, and prided herself on using examples of things that had actually happened.

5 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

And yet they've sent Moira, Luke, and Emily there and they've drifted around plotless with only the random occasional check-in. 

True, but the whole damn cast will be there now, except Alma and maybe Janine, and June, and maybe a few Martha's.  I still think there is a reason Spy Guy is being so considerate to the Wallingfords, and especially in Serena's case, I think it's to use her popularity and fame against Gilead.

Edited August 9, 2019 by Umbelina
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[mamadrama]

1 hour ago, Umbelina said:

In the book, Atwood had the Gilead underground railroad going to Canada, because it had already happened here, during slavery.  She liked, and prided herself on using examples of things that had actually happened.

Yes, I have read the book and am pretty familiar with American history, being an American myself. 

It's too bad the show isn't following suit. It left book material a long time ago. 

[alexvillage]

11 hours ago, Umbelina said:

It's interesting that Rita is escaping as well.  

I've always wondered if she was lying to Serena when she said her son Mathew died during the coup.  Maybe he didn't die, but escaped to fight with the rebels?  Or even just escaped to Canada?  

If they are bothering to send her to Canada, I hope that means they are expanding her story, and it would be cool if it involved her son.

Wasn't Rita so full of awe for Serena just a few episodes back? If she is going to Canada on the current writers' watch there are only two possible scenarios for her:

She will become the willing servant of Serena, because yes, we know what show we are talking about

She will dive in the same pool of oblivion where Emily, Moira and Luke live, coming up for air every 4+episodes, than diving back to the deep forgotten waters.

[Umbelina]

9 hours ago, mamadrama said:

Yes, I have read the book and am pretty familiar with American history, being an American myself. 

It's too bad the show isn't following suit. It left book material a long time ago. 

I disagree with that.  

We have been moving into the epilogue portion of the book finally for a while now.  As you know, it's thinly done, but it certainly mentioned resistance, it certainly mentioned the underground railroad, and it definitely speculated that June was a part of the resistance, led mostly by women.

The show must, of course, flesh out that entire story beyond that misogynist narrator's blithe descriptions, so that's the place where they can "invent."  Fred's capture by the USA, and Serena's defection, for example.  Something I applaud by the way, probably the best thing the show has done in two seasons.  The addition of Spy Guy, another thing I applaud is a logical step because of course he, and they, would exist.

I'm still fairly furious that they haven't gone into the actual freedom fighters waging wars all over Gilead except in little passing phrases, I'd really like to see/meet them, families fighting for their country, still with equality and women speaking their minds and making bombs shoulder to shoulder with men, children learning to read...all of that is something I want to see, not just hear about.

[kieyra]

Canada = Mandyville.

[mamadrama]

Uh, dudes? Is this Naomi Putnam?

[mamadrama]

Also, I don't have links for this since it's just a grapevine kind of thing from someone who screened the finale but I've heard that:

- June stays in Gilead (of course she does)

- Rita makes it out and is able to confront Fred and Serena in Canada

- the plane arrives safely with the kids (of course it does)

- Nick is not in the episode

- Serena is arrested

- Hannah doesn't make it out

[AnswersWanted]

Just realized you posted about it @mamadrama, heh, I was just coming here to rant about it. 

Here’s the clip: 

THT Israeli Trailer E13

So...yeah...June terrorizes a small girl with her gun, fantastic. 

Did those fucks actually allow Serena the chance to take Holly out of the center?

Seriously? They know she’s baby crazy and yet they would allow her to still be alone with her? Ffs, this show man. 

Also how the hell are they going to have the guards and patrols going apeshit during the escape and yet still they succeed? They have CARS goddamnit! 

The bullshit will be incredibly heavy with this finale. And I thought last season’s was bad enough. 

Edited August 10, 2019 by AnswersWanted

[mamadrama]

2 minutes ago, AnswersWanted said:

Just realized you posted it @mamadrama, heh, I was just coming here to rant about it. 

So...yeah...June terrorizes a small girl with her gun, fantastic. 

Did those fucks actually allow Serena the chance to take Holly out of the center?

Seriously? They know she’s baby crazy and yet they would allow her to still be alone with her? Ffs, this show man. 

Also how the hell are they going to have the guards and patrols going apeshit during the escape and yet still they succeed? They have CARS goddamnit! 

The bullshit will be incredibly heavy with this finale. And I thought last season’s was bad enough. 

I couldn't post the Israeli trailer here, just a screenshot, so if you have a link then it would be awesome. I feel jipped every time those trailers come out. They show so much! And yeah, why was SJ moseying around outside with Nichole? Although her getting arrested was a sight for sore eyes...

[Umbelina]

I love the idea of Fred ratting out Serena, those two are always at their best when they fight.  Still, about what?  The pregnancy rape?  That doesn't seem like it would be enough.  More?  Hope so!

Looks like some may be dressed as Wives.

8 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

I couldn't post the Israeli trailer here, just a screenshot, so if you have a link then it would be awesome. I feel jipped every time those trailers come out. They show so much! And yeah, why was SJ moseying around outside with Nichole? Although her getting arrested was a sight for sore eyes...

[AnswersWanted]

9 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

I couldn't post the Israeli trailer here, just a screenshot, so if you have a link then it would be awesome. I feel jipped every time those trailers come out. They show so much! And yeah, why was SJ moseying around outside with Nichole? Although her getting arrested was a sight for sore eyes...

I got you covered, my lady, I found the Reddit poster’s account and saved it so I could keep going back to it, heh. I really hate searching on that site, it’s so confusing sometimes.

It definitely showed us a few different scenes, but none of which were impressive. 

I really want to see how these mf-ers are going to have this bunch outrun armed guards in cars and make it to safety and they actually get the plane out of there, like...what the ever loving fuck? 

And June is confronted but not shot dead on sight? Sure, fine, yeah, that’s totally believable...

Ofmatthew got blown away in the middle of the store, and was clearly pregnant at the time, but June gets caught out in the fucking woods, obviously apart of some escape attempt or other nefarious plan, and makes it out alive. 

*sigh* This show can go right to hell. 

Edited August 10, 2019 by AnswersWanted

[maggiegil]

20 minutes ago, Umbelina said:

I love the idea of Fred ratting out Serena, those two are always at their best when they fight.  Still, about what?  The pregnancy rape?  That doesn't seem like it would be enough.  More? 

Could it be the orders and stuff she wrote when Fred was incapacitated after the bomb? Or maybe hes just making stuff up

[AnswersWanted]

2 hours ago, mamadrama said:

Also, I don't have links for this since it's just a grapevine kind of thing from someone who screened the finale but I've heard that:

- June stays in Gilead (of course she does)

- Rita makes it out and is able to confront Fred and Serena in Canada

- the plane arrives safely with the kids (of course it does)

- Nick is not in the episode

- Serena is arrested

- Hannah doesn't make it out

Yep, that seems to be the general rundown of the episode based on all the spoilers I’ve seen so far. 

Pretty much we are going to have a nearly identical type of finale as last season. 

Serena’s crazy and unstable and someone has to take baby Holly away from her. 

Fred’s his usual bastard self. 

Instead of Emily escaping with Holly, Rita will escape with 52 kids and get to Canada. 

June still doesn’t have Hannah, June will stay behind and live to fight another day. 

I don’t know how many resets this show is planning to have so they can keep June in Gilead, but I have reached my limit.

I have no interest to watch another whole season of a “should have been dead a long ass time ago” June Wick running shit. 

Edited August 10, 2019 by AnswersWanted

[mamadrama]

34 minutes ago, AnswersWanted said:

Yep, that seems to be the general rundown of the episode based on all the spoilers I’ve seen so far. 

Pretty much we are going to have a nearly identical type of finale as last season. 

Serena’s crazy and unstable and someone has to take baby Holly away from her. 

Fred’s his usual bastard self. 

Instead of Emily escaping with Holly, Rita will escape with 52 kids and get to Canada. 

June still doesn’t have Hannah, June will stay behind and live to fight another day. 

I don’t know how many resets this show is planning to have so they can keep June in Gilead, but I have reached my limit.

I have no interest to watch another whole season of a “should have been dead a long ass time ago” June Wick running shit. 

And after an episode or two devoted to the Canada shenanigans, the show will return to June's Tale and follow her around as she makes illogical choices and pretends to be a boss. Once again, the rest of the world will cease to exist. 

[Anela]

June Wick. I love it.

[AnswersWanted]

12 hours ago, mamadrama said:

And after an episode or two devoted to the Canada shenanigans, the show will return to June's Tale and follow her around as she makes illogical choices and pretends to be a boss. Once again, the rest of the world will cease to exist. 

‘Maybe she’ll get promoted to Commander status, I mean why not, she’s practically taken over Gilead already, just let her go all the way. 

12 hours ago, Anela said:

June Wick. I love it.

Hee, I can’t stop using that since she killed Commander Keller with that pen. It reminded me of the famous John Wick line/scene about him killing 3 men with a “fucking pencil”. 

I really wouldn’t be surprised to see June use her gun for real in the finale, she’s practically a ninja now. 

[kieyra]

17 hours ago, mamadrama said:

- Rita makes it out and is able to confront Fred and Serena in Canada

In this show,  “confront” = stare at someone from the Gilead leadership with a sad/angry face, and hope they feel really bad about what they did.

[AnswersWanted]

19 minutes ago, kieyra said:

In this show,  “confront” = stare at someone from the Gilead leadership with a sad/angry face, and hope they feel really bad about what they did.

Tell the truth. 

It wouldn’t shock me in the slightest if Rita started yelling at them: “I thought we were a FAMILY! I MADE Serena a fucking FINGER goddamnit!”. 

After all she did get so close to Serena while she was her slave...

[Brn2bwild]

17 hours ago, Umbelina said:

I love the idea of Fred ratting out Serena, those two are always at their best when they fight.  Still, about what?  The pregnancy rape?  That doesn't seem like it would be enough.  More?  Hope so!

Looks like some may be dressed as Wives.

He probably ratted her out about her role in the formation of Gilead (including the government murders).  It's likely Spy Guy wasn't aware of the extent of her complicity.

[Baltimore Betty]

34 minutes ago, Brn2bwild said:

He probably ratted her out about her role in the formation of Gilead (including the government murders).  It's likely Spy Guy wasn't aware of the extent of her complicity.

I would have guessed that Serena would have more than a few fingers pointing in her direction, how would Spy Guy think she is innocent in the goings on in and pre Gilead.

Fred is a pussy, of course he will do his best to throw SJ under the bus.

[HeySandyStrange]

1 hour ago, Brn2bwild said:

He probably ratted her out about her role in the formation of Gilead (including the government murders).  It's likely Spy Guy wasn't aware of the extent of her complicity.

Yeah, she was in on/helped plan the initial terrorist attacks that destabilized the US government. Once they find that out, they can arrest her for treason.

There is also the fact that she directly participated in the rape of June a few times, once when she was pregnant and when she basically forced June to sleep with Nick. So just the few things we know if could equal charges of treason, rape, and terrorism, to name a few.

Edited August 10, 2019 by HeySandyStrange

[Umbelina]

Tiny little "hint" about the finale from Moss during this interview.  Something like "even if you get what you want, there is a cost."  

[ferjy]

4 hours ago, Umbelina said:

Tiny little "hint" about the finale from Moss during this interview.  Something like "even if you get what you want, there is a cost."  

Two-ditz conversation. "Badass women". Yeah, that's what it's all about. Give me strength. Moss, if June is reflected back at you, that explains a lot.

[mamadrama]

1 hour ago, ferjy said:

Two-ditz conversation. "Badass women". Yeah, that's what it's all about. Give me strength. Moss, if June is reflected back at you, that explains a lot.

I continue to be surprised at how ditzy Mossy comes off in interviews. And oblivious.

[secnarf]

2 hours ago, mamadrama said:

I continue to be surprised at how ditzy Mossy comes off in interviews. And oblivious.

Yeah - watch The Office as a chaser? Really?

I am always surprised at how different her voice sounds in interviews compared to when she is playing June, as I have only ever seen her in THT.

[jenn31]

On 8/9/2019 at 10:32 PM, AnswersWanted said:

*sigh* This show can go right to hell. 

My sentiments exactly. I can't tell you how much these spoilers for the finale have pissed me off. I don't usually look at spoilers, but I had to know ahead of time. I didn't want to wing something at my monitor and damage it while watching the episode.

[alexvillage]

9 hours ago, mamadrama said:

I continue to be surprised at how ditzy Mossy comes off in interviews. And oblivious.

"Entertainment" interviewers are always like this. No substance. I think people who want the job are just superfine who need to shower the artists with praise and cheesy observations.

Moss' responses to the silly questions are likely because her own cult dictates that she knows so much more than anyone else, she is on the path to salvations while saving the world, that she doesn't care about addressing the analogies of the show (or what the writers believe they are doing) with our current world, in this country. I would expect her to put her ED hat and praise the writers, which would be absurd, but part of her job. But instead she plays the game of red carpet interviews where throwing away bad jokes is cool, while taking the opportunity to show some social maturity is probably considered "not the place" for that.

[mamadrama]

44 minutes ago, alexvillage said:

"Entertainment" interviewers are always like this. No substance. I think people who want the job are just superfine who need to shower the artists with praise and cheesy observations.

Moss' responses to the silly questions are likely because her own cult dictates that she knows so much more than anyone else, she is on the path to salvations while saving the world, that she doesn't care about addressing the analogies of the show (or what the writers believe they are doing) with our current world, in this country. I would expect her to put her ED hat and praise the writers, which would be absurd, but part of her job. But instead she plays the game of red carpet interviews where throwing away bad jokes is cool, while taking the opportunity to show some social maturity is probably considered "not the place" for that.

I don't care what topics she discusses or not, she comes across as ditzy while Joseph Fiennes, Amanda Bruegal, and Yvonne do not. I didn't even watch the posted link, I have just seen her in a lot of interviews over the past 10 years and my opinion remains the same.

[Brn2bwild]

12 hours ago, mamadrama said:

I continue to be surprised at how ditzy Mossy comes off in interviews. And oblivious.

I guess I'm in the minority because... I don't see it in this one?  She seems to be keeping it light in the spirit of the interview.  She wasn't being invited to share her most profound thoughts about the series.  I'm glad she didn't give too much away in terms of what to expect in the final episode.

[mamadrama]

2 hours ago, Brn2bwild said:

I guess I'm in the minority because... I don't see it in this one?  She seems to be keeping it light in the spirit of the interview.  She wasn't being invited to share her most profound thoughts about the series.  I'm glad she didn't give too much away in terms of what to expect in the final episode.

As I said in the post above, I was speaking in general terms, not specifically of this interview, and I didn't say that I wanted her to give a lot away.

[alexvillage]

4 hours ago, mamadrama said:

I don't care what topics she discusses or not, she comes across as ditzy while Joseph Fiennes, Amanda Bruegal, and Yvonne do not. I didn't even watch the posted link, I have just seen her in a lot of interviews over the past 10 years and my opinion remains the same.

Thinking of it I don't think I have ever seen her in interviews. I did read an interview lot too long ago and my impression of the description the journalist gave was of arrogance. I don't disagree that she came out foolish. It is my impression of arrogance that prevails maybe because I was watching the scientology show and UGH!

[ferjy]

4 hours ago, Brn2bwild said:

I guess I'm in the minority because... I don't see it in this one?  She seems to be keeping it light in the spirit of the interview.  She wasn't being invited to share her most profound thoughts about the series. 

I think commenting about "badass" women is pretty ditzy. She implies that in every interview about The Handmaid's Tale, that women have to be rebellious to be strong. Just because the interviewer uses the term doesn't mean you have to do the same as an interviewee. I agree with mamadrama, if it had been Joseph Fiennes or Yvonne, they would have elaborated in better terms than Moss ever could. True that it was a lowly red carpet interview, but we've all seen other carpet interviewees make better comments than Moss did in the one above. She's always like that. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Edited August 12, 2019 by ferjy

[Umbelina]

https://www.postapocalypticmedia.com/the-handmaids-tale-season-3-finale-episode-13-spoilers-theories/

Spoilers and potential spoilers compilation here.  Some known, some new to me, enjoy!

[Umbelina]

Well that certainly looks as if it's a Canadian Flag in that airplane hanger, so the spoiler to end the season won't be about the children, and Rita, and possibly Janine not making it to Canada.

Would Canada turn the plane around and send them all back?  Or be talking about it?  I hope not, I hope it's a different kind of season-ending spoiler.  Probably June arrested?  

I really hope the part about Janine getting out is true.  She deserves a break.

I wonder if this is Hannah?

the zoom in, from that same link above.

[go4luca]

@Umbelina, it's not Hannnah.  Elisabeth herself identifies the young actress as being Kate Moyer in her reply to Director/EP Mike Barker's post:

Full size shot for any interested since it's clear:

Edited August 13, 2019 by go4luca

[Ariam]

15 hours ago, Brn2bwild said:

I guess I'm in the minority because... I don't see it in this one?  She seems to be keeping it light in the spirit of the interview.  She wasn't being invited to share her most profound thoughts about the series.  I'm glad she didn't give too much away in terms of what to expect in the final episode.

The thing is, that regardless of the type of interview she doesn’t have very profound thoughts. When she thinks she does it does not come across as very smart. The stupid “badass” talk is exactly what has ruined this series. 

[Umbelina]

Elisabeth Moss, Joseph Fiennes, Madeline Brewer, Amanda Brugel & Ann Dowd tell why fans will be shocked and happy with the finale.

Edited August 13, 2019 by Umbelina

[kieyra]

Didn’t really catch any spoilers there, just a lot of “everyone will be so surprised!”. Or, in the case of Ann Dowd “I haven’t seen the episode yet”. 

Madeline Brewer comes across as the most articulate of them. 

[mamadrama]

28 minutes ago, kieyra said:

Didn’t really catch any spoilers there, just a lot of “everyone will be so surprised!”. Or, in the case of Ann Dowd “I haven’t seen the episode yet”. 

Madeline Brewer comes across as the most articulate of them. 

Yeah, just random and general talk. Too bad. I wish some real spoilers had been released. I gotta go into these things prepared. 

[Umbelina]

37 minutes ago, kieyra said:

Didn’t really catch any spoilers there, just a lot of “everyone will be so surprised!”. Or, in the case of Ann Dowd “I haven’t seen the episode yet”. 

Madeline Brewer comes across as the most articulate of them. 

Just the idea that something that will shock us is happening, and Fred sure sounded like that's the end of the Wallingfords.  I almost put it in the media thread, but it was a tad spoilerish and some people really don't like anything even slightly approaching a spoiler.

Those photos above are pretty good spoilers though.

9 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

Yeah, just random and general talk. Too bad. I wish some real spoilers had been released. I gotta go into these things prepared. 

Did you see those photos above?  

I do wonder what the "shocking" thing is though, since we all expect the kids to make it out.  Unless Canada turns the plane around and sends them back, which would be pretty awful.

[Umbelina]

On 8/10/2019 at 12:44 PM, Brn2bwild said:

He probably ratted her out about her role in the formation of Gilead (including the government murders).  It's likely Spy Guy wasn't aware of the extent of her complicity.

I think her being a driving force in getting Gilead going is very well known, after all, she was famous, out there doing speeches, and writing best selling books about what needed to happen (repress women, old fashioned Christian Values, etc.) back when it was still the USA and an open country with a free press.

It has to be more.  Maybe that handmaid before June didn't really kill herself after all?  Just spitballin' but maybe Serena did it in jealousy after finding out her clothes were worn and Fred was banging her outside of the ceremony?

As soon as Gilead took over, Serena was shut out completely though...we shall see...

ETA, I wonder if Rita getting out will have anything to do with it?  

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Since they are all so "proud" of this season, I highly doubt the so called surprise is anything more than the fact June remains in Gilead, yet again, or that the kids actually manage to fly out unharmed. 

The spoiler rundown of the episode didn't exactly scream anything mind blowing. 

Most likely the finale was written in hopes for another season, which they got, so they probably wanted to hedge their bets to make sure they didn't do anything crazy, or competent frankly. 

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June's made it very clear that she isn't leaving without Hannah and that Hannah is missing now, so I doubt it's that June isn't getting out.  We already know she isn't leaving.

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I have seen plenty of audience members online who remain unspoiled and they are convinced she has to get out this time. 

A lot of people are sick of her being stuck in Gilead. The show has really exhausted a lot of the viewers with June's neverending story and resets.