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9 minutes ago, BradandJanet said:

The Minnie cake may be from a place called Sweetly Bakery in Battle Ground, Washington. No prices listed, but they make custom cakes. https://www.sweetlybg.com/

Of course it's a Minnie cake because TORI loves Disney!  And then there's the yard art...  

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1 hour ago, all4mom2 said:

Dang; you know THOSE weren't cheap!  Imagine this princess's Sweet 16.

I hope for Lilah's sake she has some true friends to invite to her "sweet 16". Teens can be cruel and with Lilah's not-so-perfect looks she might be facing a lot of judgement and criticism during her young life.

But keep making those dwarfs Tori. After all, it's not YOU that has to deal with the challenges.You stupid a$$hat.

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2 hours ago, Endora said:

I wonder what Tori's parents think of Zach as a son in law?  Impression I get of him from the show is that he's a lump of nothing. 

While I agree Zach seems like a slow moving snail, on the other hand, Tory doesn't have to work outside the home, does she? And she lives in a really nice, half a million dollar home. Her husband provides a pretty nice lifestyle of privelege. He doesn't hit her or mistreat her or do drugs, seems to cherish and respect her. 72 dollar cookies aside, they don't seem to be ridiculous spenders, so I assume some money is being put aside. People have certainly done worse in marriage.

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No reports he does drugs, no arrests for domestic disputes (such things are public), no bruises on her, and in filmed episodes about her miscarriage, he was literally holding her hand and almost in tears over her pain. Generally they seem very affectionate on camera in a way that doesn't seem forced.

Now, Ginger90, I don't deny your point but the actual question was what Tory's family must think of Zach as a son in law. I *like* to think if he was using meth, hitting Tory, and screaming his rage at her off camera how he hates her, that her family would be more actively trying to get her out of that situation... and they aren't. And yes, especially considering that Zach is on tv, there are ways for the family to draw attention to such problems.

Is there any suggestion that Zach does drugs and abuses his wife? I'm open to it, I just haven't seen any evidence of it. I have as much reason to think Zach is a drug using physically abusive monster as I do any member of the Roloff family. 

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5 hours ago, floridamom said:

I bet everything they post with credits are given to them free of charge for the 'advertising'. They paid nothing for those cakes and cookies.

They probably got a discount, but I SERIOUSLY doubt they're "free."  After all, it's easy to do your OWN advertising these days (and they do; the cookies, cakes, yard art, and photog all have Facebook, IG, and websites); did the princess dress and accessories also get a shout-out?  How pretentious!  Matt and Amy are both a hundred times wealthier, yet don't flaunt it like these two do... I'm surprised Amy isn't rolling her eyes in that "granny" portrait!

If Tori doesn't have to work outside the home, that's only indirectly due to Zach; they're quite likely thankful that Zach's father has provided their daughter with a comfortable life!

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4 hours ago, all4mom2 said:

They probably got a discount, but I SERIOUSLY doubt they're "free."  After all, it's easy to do your OWN advertising these days (and they do; the cookies, cakes, yard art, and photog all have Facebook, IG, and websites); did the princess dress and accessories also get a shout-out?  How pretentious!  Matt and Amy are both a hundred times wealthier, yet don't flaunt it like these two do... I'm surprised Amy isn't rolling her eyes in that "granny" portrait!

If Tori doesn't have to work outside the home, that's only indirectly due to Zach; they're quite likely thankful that Zach's father has provided their daughter with a comfortable life!

Absolutely and I bet Matt wishes he could take it all back. 

Zack does nothing to provide his family with their lifestyle. That’s all the hard work Matt did in addition to dealing with dead weight Amy!

Gosh I bet he’s so happy he’s free from her!

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2 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

Absolutely and I bet Matt wishes he could take it all back. 

Zack does nothing to provide his family with their lifestyle. That’s all the hard work Matt did in addition to dealing with dead weight Amy!

Gosh I bet he’s so happy he’s free from her!

Zach gave up his teen years.thats a lot and just to feed his sperm donor's huge, overblown ego.

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14 minutes ago, all4mom2 said:

And he wouldn't have spendy Tori for a wife,

Is that really a problem?

15 minutes ago, all4mom2 said:

What did he "give up," exactly?

Medical privacy for starters. 

Personal privacy as well. As a minor, Zach really didn't get a choice to be on the show and maybe the public general wouldn't think so poorly of him if his every crappy moment as a teen wasn't on display for a binge rewatch.

A gripe I have about all of these shows that feature parents merrily whoring their children out to live lavish lifestyles (and yeah, Matt and Amy did this) is that the kids don't officially get seperate checks until they're eighteen, and they don't get to quit until they are eighteen. Matt and Amy I suspect would be mortified to have their teen years on display. 

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Zach is kind of growing on me, surprisingly.  His newfound confidence as family man and the common sense (relatively speaking) he's always had is kind of attractive.  That said, he seems pretty worthless as a provider, but that's true of this entire motley crew minus Molly and, to a degree, Auj, who is ambitous... 

Obviously, I'm a bigger fan of Zach's than I am of Tori's.

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