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On 4/19/2018 at 8:51 AM, SCS said:

Update to the Josh Waring case. Apparently, his calls discussing strategy were monitored. Only 1 comment so far.

 

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-real-housewives-20180419-story.html

Well call me ignorant, but I thought it was common knowledge to all prisoners that their phone calls are monitored/recorded. Please, someone tell me I'm not the only one who thought this was standard prison protocol? 

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4 minutes ago, chenoa333 said:

Well call me ignorant, but I thought it was common knowledge to all prisoners that their phone calls are monitored/recorded. Please, someone tell me I'm not the only one who thought this was standard prison protocol? 

This was his first arrest, he knew full well he was being recorded, as did his mom, IMO.

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9 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

Sorry, I meant it WASN"T his first arrest! hangs head in shame for not reading my post before I posted it. LOL

Lol. We've all done it Wirewrap! Not as shameful as usng "autocorrect". I turned off that shit a long time ago! Anyway, I just can't understand how this attorney that Lauri Waring Peterson hired is thinking he/she can make a good case for Josh by claiming the prison recorded his phone calls. Its also fishy that after all these years of Mommy Lauri never trying to help Josh, suddenly she's putting time and money into Josh? It's just weird IMO

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31 minutes ago, chenoa333 said:

Lol. We've all done it Wirewrap! Not as shameful as usng "autocorrect". I turned off that shit a long time ago! Anyway, I just can't understand how this attorney that Lauri Waring Peterson hired is thinking he/she can make a good case for Josh by claiming the prison recorded his phone calls. Its also fishy that after all these years of Mommy Lauri never trying to help Josh, suddenly she's putting time and money into Josh? It's just weird IMO

I suspect Lauri is stepping up because of the backlash she is getting on SM for not helping Josh enough over the years. When Josh and his baby's mom were arrested after their daughter was born, Lauri didn't seek custody of her granddaughter and the baby was in foster care for over a year before Lauri/George went for custody and, IMO, they only did so because she was trying to get back on the OC show (which she did as a FOH). So, I suspect that she is still trying to return to the show and knows full well that Josh will be a subject that someone brings up on camera. 

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chenoa333

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That article stated that Josh could face "multiple life prison sentences for attempted murder".  That seems pretty harsh for attempting to murder someone. Maybe they're also charging him for the crime of having Lauri for a mother? LOL

If Lauri is really trying to use this situation with Josh as a storyline to get back on RHOC, then SHE needs to be facing multiple life sentences. Or maybe shes hoping that her notoriety as a "real housewife of OC will get lots of free publicity about Josh's plight and he will get a much lighter sentence. 

Well Im embarrassed to admit it, but i might have to start following Lauri on Instagram. 

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53 minutes ago, chenoa333 said:

That article stated that Josh could face "multiple life prison sentences for attempted murder".  That seems pretty harsh for attempting to murder someone. Maybe they're also charging him for the crime of having Lauri for a mother? LOL

If Lauri is really trying to use this situation with Josh as a storyline to get back on RHOC, then SHE needs to be facing multiple life sentences. Or maybe shes hoping that her notoriety as a "real housewife of OC will get lots of free publicity about Josh's plight and he will get a much lighter sentence. 

Well Im embarrassed to admit it, but i might have to start following Lauri on Instagram. 

I don't think she would use it as a storyline on the show should she return but she would not want someone (Vicki/Tamra) throwing it in her face that she/George didn't help Josh either. 

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Josh's argument makes no sense-if you are representing yourself you don't gain some type of attorney client privilege.  The idea is it protects the attorney and the client.  If the attorney and the client include a third party-like Lauri, then the conversation is no longer privileged.  This is beyond dumb.  Even if Josh's new attorney has conversations with Lauri they are subject to direct and cross examination.  Dumb and Dumber.  

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6 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Josh's argument makes no sense-if you are representing yourself you don't gain some type of attorney client privilege.  The idea is it protects the attorney and the client.  If the attorney and the client include a third party-like Lauri, then the conversation is no longer privileged.  This is beyond dumb.  Even if Josh's new attorney has conversations with Lauri they are subject to direct and cross examination.  Dumb and Dumber.  

Remember the Twinkie defense? Dumb seems to work quite well at time. Especially nowadays.

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On 4/21/2018 at 3:28 PM, chenoa333 said:

Sounds like a storyline is in the making so these 2 women can keep their orange...at least for now. Could Shannon really be that immature to start a rift with Tamra & Eddie because her EX-husband is friends with Eddie? It's just so difficult for me to fathom such shallow, ridiculous behavior. But if I was getting paid 6 figures to stay on this show..i think I could come up with something more interesting or, just go for shallow and ridiculous! 

I dont know if this skirmish lasts..because both of them were in Philadelphia a week or so ago having fun and hanging out.

I have a feeling of anyone will start trouble, it will be the new girls...or the 4 veterans will have the new girls like in the old days.

Gretchen and Lynn both got hazed by vicki and tamra in season 4...and I remember at the season 4 reunion when Lynn was asked why she thought of vicki and tamra calling her vacant and spacy...she basically said it isn't as if either of them are rocket scientists lol.

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On 4/21/2018 at 9:58 PM, WireWrap said:

I suspect Lauri is stepping up because of the backlash she is getting on SM for not helping Josh enough over the years. When Josh and his baby's mom were arrested after their daughter was born, Lauri didn't seek custody of her granddaughter and the baby was in foster care for over a year before Lauri/George went for custody and, IMO, they only did so because she was trying to get back on the OC show (which she did as a FOH). So, I suspect that she is still trying to return to the show and knows full well that Josh will be a subject that someone brings up on camera. 

I don't imagine Lauri wants to be on the show again b/c she's got her wallet providing for her lifestyle and she doesn't want to rock the boat with him (exposure, that kind of thing).

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I recall she quit suddenly at the start of season 4 because of her son's legal troubles getting even worse instead of better.  I remember that the gimmick was a Brady bunch theme with the blending of two families when season 4 started.  I recall she took a passive role in the group scenes and even cut out of most group functions because of family obligations..and was at least nice to Gretchen when she joined unlike the others.  And Andy tried to get her to come back for years and she wouldn't even saying that the concept of the show had changed and didnt know if she could fit in (we saw that her worries were legit when she was a friend of in season 8 and was ill equipped at the gossip and fighting aspect).

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3 hours ago, JAYJAY1979 said:

And Andy tried to get her to come back for years and she wouldn't even saying that the concept of the show had changed and didnt know if she could fit in (we saw that her worries were legit when she was a friend of in season 8 and was ill equipped at the gossip and fighting aspect).

Lauri really dug her own grave in Season 8. She came in holding a grudge against Vicki from 7 years prior, which, for whatever reason, was not important enough for her to resolve at any point before reappearing on camera - then, rather than just dealing with it in a direct, mature way, Lauri repeatedly took all these passive-aggressive jabs at Vicki including dropping "casual" bombshells about Brooks spending time with her daughter's porn star/hooker/cocktail waitress (?) friend at Tamra's dress shopping, and, more egregiously, floating this vague rumor that she caught Vicki "in bed" with a man and a woman at the same time, neglecting to mention that they were fully clothed and watching a movie, letting it hang there as an implication of a threesome and then hiding behind "I never said they had sex!" when confronted about it. And then, after all of this aired, and pretty much everyone except Gretchen called her out for being so messy toward Vicki, Lauri still wouldn't take any responsibility for her actions.

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5 hours ago, JAYJAY1979 said:

 I remember that the gimmick was a Brady bunch theme with the blending of two families when season 4 started.  

 

Yes, it was such a load of BS -- she went on and on bout her life being overwhelmed with measles and chicken pox and school events and extra curricular activities, which was silly because her 2 oldest and the bulk of Wallet's kids had already moved out or were past needing Mommy to manage their lives.

 

1 hour ago, PhilMarlowe2 said:

Lauri really dug her own grave in Season 8. She came in holding a grudge against Vicki from 7 years prior, which, for whatever reason, was not important enough for her to resolve at any point before reappearing on camera - then, rather than just dealing with it in a direct, mature way, Lauri repeatedly took all these passive-aggressive jabs at Vicki including dropping "casual" bombshells about Brooks spending time with her daughter's porn star/hooker/cocktail waitress (?) friend at Tamra's dress shopping, and, more egregiously, floating this vague rumor that she caught Vicki "in bed" with a man and a woman at the same time, neglecting to mention that they were fully clothed and watching a movie, letting it hang there as an implication of a threesome and then hiding behind "I never said they had sex!" when confronted about it. And then, after all of this aired, and pretty much everyone except Gretchen called her out for being so messy toward Vicki, Lauri still wouldn't take any responsibility for her actions.

 

That was messy as hell and so wrong on Lauri's part. 

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lunastartron

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On April 21, 2018 at 6:58 PM, WireWrap said:

I suspect Lauri is stepping up because of the backlash she is getting on SM for not helping Josh enough over the years. When Josh and his baby's mom were arrested after their daughter was born, Lauri didn't seek custody of her granddaughter and the baby was in foster care for over a year before Lauri/George went for custody and, IMO, they only did so because she was trying to get back on the OC show (which she did as a FOH). So, I suspect that she is still trying to return to the show and knows full well that Josh will be a subject that someone brings up on camera. 

I don't think Lauri's pursuit of custody had anything to do with reclaiming her spot in the cast. Kennedy was born sometime in 2012; season 8 filmed in fall of that same year, then aired in the spring of 2013. If I recall correctly, Josh and his child's mother had lost custody of their daughter by the time the reunion filmed; I remember being surprised that neither Tamra nor Vicki deployed the fact that Kennedy was in foster care against Lauri when she made her appearance on set and still went after Vicki. 

I always assumed the delay in the adoption had more to do with Lauri needing some lead time to, um, work her powers of persuasion on George. 

http://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/lauri-peterson-real-housewives-orange-county-adopted-her-sons-daughter

Andy was a big fan of Lauri back in those days; I distinctly remember him noting during a WWHL interview with her that her return has been "a possibility" practically every season as well as mentioning that she had been "thisclose" to signing on for a season six comeback. 

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1 minute ago, lunastartron said:

I don't think Lauri's pursuit of custody had anything to do with reclaiming her spot in the cast. Kennedy was born sometime in 2012; season 8 filmed in fall of that same year, then aired in the spring of 2013. If I recall correctly, Josh and his child's mother had lost custody of their daughter by the time the reunion filmed; I remember being surprised that neither Tamra nor Vicki deployed the fact that Kennedy was in foster care against Lauri when she made her appearance on set and still went after Vicki. 

I always assumed the delay in the adoption had more to do with Lauri needing some lead time to, um, work her powers of persuasion on George. 

http://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/lauri-peterson-real-housewives-orange-county-adopted-her-sons-daughter

Andy was a big fan of Lauri back in those days; I distinctly remember him noting during a WWHL interview with her that her return has been "a possibility" practically every season as well as mentioning that she was "thisclose" to signing on for a season six comeback. 

Vicki did ask "how" Josh was doing, Andy/Lauri quickly cut her off and I think this is what she was referring to. Lauri got a lot of backlash over not taking in her granddaughter as soon as Josh/gf lost custody of her. The child was in foster care for about a year before Lauri/George took her in, they only adopted her recently.

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4 hours ago, WireWrap said:

Kelly and Vicki are really at war! https://allaboutthetea.com/2018/05/13/bravo-fines-kelly/

 

A messy situation as to who really did what -- Vix, Kelly, Vix's boyfriend -- but Jeff probably enjoys being the catalyst for the drama. LOL that La Loathsome Tamra got fined -- I'm sure she didn't like her cheese being chopped. 

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3 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

Interesting I wonder if it will become Kelly/Shannon vs Vicki/Tamra or if Vicki will be stuck with the new people.

Who knows, Vicki/Tamra/Shannon all "made up" at the reunion, so it will be interesting to see who is on what team this season. Maybe Bravo should give Kelly a bonus as this is getting viewers speculating about the upcoming season early. LOL

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I saw the old shows that were running today and decided to see how Slade's son Grayson is doing.  He has a website about his condition.  If you click on the video, there's a short clip of Grayson talking........tears are streaming down my face. What a precious child.  My goodness.....there are no words.  Prayers for that little boy.  He sure is a blessing.

http://www.amazinggray.org/guestbook.html

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chenoa333

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23 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I saw the old shows that were running today and decided to see how Slade's son Grayson is doing.  He has a website about his condition.  If you click on the video, there's a short clip of Grayson talking........tears are streaming down my face. What a precious child.  My goodness.....there are no words.  Prayers for that little boy.  He sure is a blessing.

http://www.amazinggray.org/guestbook.html

Thanks for posting that link. Why isn't Slade in this child's life? Is it because he doesn't pay child support? Or because he's a selfish a-hole? Gretchen would be a fool to marry Slade. If they ended up getting divorced she'd be paying him alimony because she makes the money. His lazy ass just follows her around like a pussified d-bag. Much like Kroy Bierman-Zolciak.

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23 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I saw the old shows that were running today and decided to see how Slade's son Grayson is doing.  He has a website about his condition.  If you click on the video, there's a short clip of Grayson talking........tears are streaming down my face. What a precious child.  My goodness.....there are no words.  Prayers for that little boy.  He sure is a blessing.

http://www.amazinggray.org/guestbook.html

 

I don't know how current this link is, he would be 17 - 18 now and there is no new info/treatments since 2012. I hope he is well.

I found this, https://pagesix.com/2018/02/15/slade-smileys-son-is-still-battling-brain-cancer/

 

17 minutes ago, chenoa333 said:

Thanks for posting that link. Why isn't Slade in this child's life? Is it because he doesn't pay child support? Or because he's a selfish a-hole? Gretchen would be a fool to marry Slade. If they ended up getting divorced she'd be paying him alimony because she makes the money. His lazy ass just follows her around like a pussified d-bag. Much like Kroy Bierman-Zolciak.

This site is his mom's site and I don't think she/Slade are on good terms so I am not surprised to see no mention of or photos of Grayson with Slade.

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SunnyBeBe

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I don't know any details about Slade's relationship with his son.  I suppose that he is quite a bit older now and that his condition may have changed.  He is also on FB with name Amazing Gray.  He appears to be young there as well, but, there is a post from this year. 

He is certainly a very special person and if Slade is not a part of his life, he's really missing out.  

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1 hour ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I don't know any details about Slade's relationship with his son.  I suppose that he is quite a bit older now and that his condition may have changed.  He is also on FB with name Amazing Gray.  He appears to be young there as well, but, there is a post from this year. 

He is certainly a very special person and if Slade is not a part of his life, he's really missing out.  

I don't think that video is all that recent, it's at least 6 years old and there were no updates after 2012. See athousandclowns post above, Slade/Gretchen do see him.

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chenoa333

chenoa333

There's a show called Crime Watch Daily. They have a (new?) episode out and it's the story of Josh Waring. Haven't watched it yet but I'm wondering if Lauri (with the help of George Peterson's deep pockets) wanted Josh's "story" told and it's going to be slanted in favor of making Josh look like he was "framed" for the shooting incident (as Lauri claims happened)

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chenoa333

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Well, I called it on that one. Definitely Lauri's attempt at getting as many people possible to become aware of Josh's "plight". I guess Josh fired his attorney and chose to represent himself in court. That's why he was angry about the jail recording his visitation conversation...since he is acting as his own council, the jail violated the "attorney/client" privilege law (I think. But I'm not an attorney so I could be wrong about that.) Josh is going to take the stand at his trial. I might have to add that trial to my bucket list! Lol. (I jest!)

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42 minutes ago, chenoa333 said:

Well, I called it on that one. Definitely Lauri's attempt at getting as many people possible to become aware of Josh's "plight". I guess Josh fired his attorney and chose to represent himself in court. That's why he was angry about the jail recording his visitation conversation...since he is acting as his own council, the jail violated the "attorney/client" privilege law (I think. But I'm not an attorney so I could be wrong about that.) Josh is going to take the stand at his trial. I might have to add that trial to my bucket list! Lol. (I jest!)

Yes, that is what Josh is asserting but he is the one that forgot to let the jail know he was acting as his own attorney and that he was talking to his parents as his attorney and not as Lauri's 'son". His screw up, not the jail's. 

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25 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

Yes, that is what Josh is asserting but he is the one that forgot to let the jail know he was acting as his own attorney and that he was talking to his parents as his attorney and not as Lauri's 'son". His screw up, not the jail's. 

Thanks for that info! It will be interesting (to me) to see how this ends. I don't understand why he just doesn't stick with hiring a defense attorney. His stepdad has the money to afford it. It just seems odd. 

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   ON 5/30/2018 AT 8:20 PM,  WIREWRAP SAID: 

Yes, that is what Josh is asserting but he is the one that forgot to let the jail know he was acting as his own attorney and that he was talking to his parents as his attorney and not as Lauri's 'son". His screw up, not the jail's. 

Thanks for that info! It will be interesting (to me) to see how this ends. I don't understand why he just doesn't stick with hiring a defense attorney. His stepdad has the money to afford it. It just seems odd. 

He could get a public defender too.  Maybe that's who he fired? 

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I remember being surprised that neither Tamra nor Vicki deployed the fact that Kennedy was in foster care against Lauri when she made her appearance on set and still went after Vicki. 

I always assumed the delay in the adoption had more to do with Lauri needing some lead time to, um, work her powers of persuasion on George. 

It also could be because the baby's MOTHER may have been reluctant to give the baby up and sign over her rights to Lauri and George.  And I wouldn't blame them for wanting to take their time with taking on another child just when theirs were nearly grown up.  

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Just now, PhilMarlowe2 said:

Trailer!

I was hoping it would only be 5 housewives, but it's better than the recent trend of 7 or 8 housewives that other shows have done.

It looks like Shannon/Tamra plus Kelly/Vicki will have organic conflict because of the divorces looming in Shannon and Kelly's lives.  Tamra should recall she started disliking Alexis hard-core because of Alexis/Jim opting to still be friends with Simon, but if she decides to give Shannon grief over feeling the same thing she once felt.. then Twitter/Instragram is going to have to remind Tamra of her past actions, etc.

Gina looks like she will have a mouth on her, guess Kelly can't be the only loud mouth in the bunch anymore.  Emily...hmmm.. her backstory seems interesting, but that doesn't always mean anything.

Shannon on blind dates!!!!  I'm glad she will be giving us what I had so hoped Ramona would have given us after her divorce.  

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PhilMarlowe2

21 hours ago, JAYJAY1979 said:

I was hoping it would only be 5 housewives, but it's better than the recent trend of 7 or 8 housewives that other shows have done.

It looks like Shannon/Tamra plus Kelly/Vicki will have organic conflict because of the divorces looming in Shannon and Kelly's lives.  Tamra should recall she started disliking Alexis hard-core because of Alexis/Jim opting to still be friends with Simon, but if she decides to give Shannon grief over feeling the same thing she once felt.. then Twitter/Instragram is going to have to remind Tamra of her past actions, etc.

Gina looks like she will have a mouth on her, guess Kelly can't be the only loud mouth in the bunch anymore.  Emily...hmmm.. her backstory seems interesting, but that doesn't always mean anything.

Shannon on blind dates!!!!  I'm glad she will be giving us what I had so hoped Ramona would have given us after her divorce.  

Not that I'm a Tamra defender, but I did recently re-watch those seasons and, to be fair, Tamra's issue wasn't just that Alexis and Jim were friends with Simon but that  that Jim was actually badmouthing her, saying that he hated her and I think actively taking Simon's side - all while Alexis was still being nice to her face.

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