Vicki Gunvalson: Her Love Tank Runneth Over

[breezy424]

Season 2 of New Jersey Jacqueline's daughter had turned 18 years old.  Andy asked how Ashley paid for her attorneys' fees and Jacqueline mentioned -with what she makes off the show.  Ashley at some point mentioned she was paid $30,000.00.  I would think Briana makes probably more than Ashley did seven years ago.  There is just no way Briana isn't taking a check home.  Now her brother Michael may be only be getting paid for specific episodes-like dinner with Billy and Brooks and dinner with mom.  These kids are far too smart to turn down or not demand a paycheck.

I have my doubts that Ashley made $30000 a season.  Maybe $30000 total. 

 

In any event, I have no doubt Briana moving back to OC has nothing to do with a paycheck from Bravo.  

[WireWrap]

I agree it is premature to assume he is out of the service.  I don't think Vicki will buy her house or even pony up a down payment.  If Briana is earning six figures and has an $1,100.00 a month payment she should be flush. 

 

Briana just filming with Vicki would be tantamount to Vicki having her own section of the show.  I am trying to figure out how she is going to slide right back in.  Why would any of them want to be around a bold face liar or have to put up with her opinions on all things personal to them?  Worse she wants sympathy and support from them.  We have seen Vicki play with Briana's kids, we have seen Vicki feign surprise at sayings such as "bearded clam" and "circle jerk" oh and my favorite the accidental mention of her mom watching Briana's kids so she could go party in Las Vegas after her mom died (terrible acting job).  Vicki is just phony and when she couldn't sell a storyline with Brooks and cancer she wants to be treated as a victim.

I do think Briana and Ryan can afford a home in the OC and take care of their own down payment as well. I also think Vicki's time on the show is up or at the very least she should be downgraded to FOH as we have seen all she has to offer.

[zoeysmom]

I have my doubts that Ashley made $30000 a season.  Maybe $30000 total. 

 

In any event, I have no doubt Briana moving back to OC has nothing to do with a paycheck from Bravo.  

Well that is what she said.  And it was after Season 2 and Season 1 she was a minor so I really don't know why any other seasons would be involved.  I can only report what was said.  I do believe the reason Ryan moved down to OC was for a Bravo paycheck and he has no problems with tweeting about it.

 

Well let's hope since six months ago they were saying they could not afford to live in California they are making the right choices.  OC is expensive but plenty of families get by everyday on less than six figures,

[Bronzedog]

I guess Ryan will be selling in---surance with Vicki.

[zoeysmom]

I guess Ryan will be selling in---surance with Vicki.

More importantly does anyone want to see him go through the process?  All I can think of is Vicki insisting the film she and Ryan for days on end in hopes of getting a sound bite.  Anybody wonder how Michael feels about somebody nursing off his cash cow?

[lunastartron]

Inserting Briana to the cast makes no narrative sense. I have never seen any evidence that the cast particularly enjoys her company; what I've seen is that Shannon, Heather, and Meghan can exercise basic etiquette when called upon (at least in rare circumstances) and treat a co-worker's child with cordial regard. It would be ridiculously naive and stupid - too stupid to actually occur, imo - for Heather and co to film with Briana as a full-time addition because it would force them to directly engage with her and thus bolster the Gunvalson victim campaign. One potential upside, though: say what you will about the Edmonds; I'd love to see nutty Ryan come sideways at Meghan or her mom because I have no doubt Jimmy would knock him into next week. Even better: imagine the pyrotechnics if he started cursing out Shannon or Mama Storms; *she'd* erupt like a volcano and probably deck him into next century . . . Here's what Vicki is too dim/self-preoccupied to apprehend and too shameless to let deter her: Andy is more of a sadistic sociopath than any of these women ever thought about being and he has to be incensed about the way Brooks and Vick's con left egg on his face. Maybe not angry enough to fire her but pissed enough that she's definitely in for it. So he invites her back ostensibly as a full-time cast member with Alexis or someone else as a FOH ally. Then he directs Meghan and Tamra to continue with their dog-with-bone bit and attack even harder on Vicki's documented inconsistencies and contradictions. Helpful supercuts of her lies are added in by editing during post-production. After filming, Vicks is downgraded, removed from the credits a la Aviva and LuAnn, loses her place in the orange montage, whatever independent storyline she films is eliminated to ensure that her scrren time is all about her mendacity, and maybe even whatever ally was brought in for her benefit is suddenly promoted to her slot.

[PhilMarlowe2]

Here's what Vicki is too dim/self-preoccupied to apprehend and too shameless to let deter her: Andy is more of a sadistic sociopath than any of these women ever thought about being and he has to be incensed about the way Brooks and Vick's con left egg on his face.

 

I am confused, though, what exactly is the egg on Andy's face? Vicki's storyline brought in a record amount of viewers this season. Which is why I feel quite certain that she will be back full time.

[AnnA]

I am confused, though, what exactly is the egg on Andy's face? 

 

I can't speak for Lunastartron but I would think that Brooks revealing he faked the documents and City of Hope publicly saying he was never a patient just days before the big "Brooks Tells All" interview is a good guess.  Andy and Bravo promoted the hell out of the interview, paid Brooks $10,000 plus travel and hotel expenses to come to NY.

[lunastartron]

Yes, thanks, AnnA. The special was advertised extensively for weeks only to be rendered non-germane by Brooks's press tour performance. It is one thing to stoke attention that benefits the network in media rounds; it is another to actively divert said attention away from one's employer and facilitate the optics of oneupsmanship where the steward and public face of that employer is concerned. I'd also add that Brooks's stunt with the record forgeries is about as conclusive as one can get in terms of shattering the narrative ambiguity (was Taylor abused? Was Teresa complicit in defrauding the government? What did Taylor say to Camille in New York?) that is the motor of this franchise.

[mbaywife123]

IF Vicki is back next season (please NO!) Andy will treat her like the lead dog on the mush team.

Pulled from the lead and placed close to the sled for re-training.

[zoeysmom]

Vicki denies paying for Brooks' teeth and expects Shannon to do her part in mending the friendship:  http://www.allabouttrh.com/vicki-tweets-about-briana-moving-back-to-the-oc-plus-denies-paying-for-brooks-teeth/

[motorcitymom65]

I don't think the kids got a paycheck from Bravo from being on the show, but I think that Jac/Vicki/Tamra got paid an additional sum for having people on the show to film with. If Jac had Ashley on the show and allowed their dysfunctional shit show of a relationship to be filmed, she made more money for doing it. Therefore Ashley was making money as well.  I just don't buy the idea that Bravo was/is actually cutting these people a check.  Unless they were doing the TH interviews.  I still believe what has always been said and that is that they get paid if they do the TH interviews.  I don't remember if Ashley did them or not, but if she did, then she probably got paid.  When Brianna does them, she probably gets paid.  That was when everything changed for Brooks IMO.  He didn't do the TH's until the end of this season. I think at some point, Bravo offered him some money of his own, outside of what he was getting from Vicki for being her side-kick. 

[zoeysmom]

I don't think the TH having anything to do with compensation, someone came up with that theory when Joe Giudice stopped making them.  For the married couples the money for use of their house and salaries are essentially community property.  Unlike the husbands the adult children have no claim to their mothers' earnings.  For a variety of reasons they do not want to pay double taxes.  The players all sign contracts and waivers and I just don't see any of them signing off without a check.  More importantly why would Jacqueline lie straight away to Andy's face?  She said it on WWHL.  If it were untrue I would think Andy would have corrected her. The Manzo kids got paid early on, Teresa even went after Caroline claiming her children don't work.  This is a billion dollar enterprise so paying these adult children $30 or $50k is really pretty small peanuts.   The reason the minor children don't get paid is they are skirting child labor laws. 

 

Brooks has said prior to the season he got paid peanuts ($15,000) for his previous appearances.  I am thinking he is talking about getting paid for being on the Reunions.  I do believe in addition to his 1,000 other faults Brooks was always angry he could not cash in on RHOC exposure.  Obviously he since has cashed in by doing interviews.

[This2getsold]

Yeah, I see Vicki as lending them some down payment money, but not buying the place for them.  Hell, that's what she did when she got Briana that stupid Mercedes-- she took care of the down payment on the lease and then Briana had to make the payments.  

The way I see it, Icky LIES about everything. Not believing anything she says. I don't believe for one nano second Icky didn't pay for Bri's car or Icky made the payments. 

 

Also not believing Vicki didn't pay for Brooks teeth. Wasn't he dang close to living in his car when she met him? Per Brooks

Phony teeth are VERY EXPENSIVE. 

 

When can we do to get her off this show? She is a piss poor example of women at her age. Wondering if she's ever had Business issues  with her selling annuities. Huge consumer complaint issues with this kind of financial product.

Edited November 18, 2015 by This2getsold

[zoeysmom]

Here is an article from the time Brooks got his teeth fixed:  http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/06/vicki-gunvalson-brooks-ayers-teeth-fixed-video/

 

Here is Vicki comment at time, from her blog:  http://www.wetpaint.com/did-vicki-gunvalson-pay-for-brooks-ayerss-dental-work-on-real-housewives-of-orange-county-2-706791/

 

Of course this is what she said on the episode which sounds like she got him new teeth:  http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-orange-county/season-7/videos/brooks-new-chompers

 

And just for fun this affirmation from Brooks to Vicki:  http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-orange-county/season-7/videos/brooks-gets-weird

[zoeysmom]

Briana is moving to Ladera Ranch, Tamra's neighborhood:  http://www.eonline.com/news/716870/vicki-gunvalson-s-daughter-briana-culberson-does-not-have-cancer-we-are-happy-and-thankful-and-blessed

[talula]

Briana is moving to Ladera Ranch, Tamra's neighborhood:  http://www.eonline.com/news/716870/vicki-gunvalson-s-daughter-briana-culberson-does-not-have-cancer-we-are-happy-and-thankful-and-blessed

Since Tamra is a real estate salesperson I wouldn't be surprised if she assisted Briana and Ryan in finding a new home.

[OhGromit]

Vicki is spouting some nonsense about being willing to be friends with Shannon again, as long as Shannon "does her part":  http://www.inquisitr.com/2572496/vicki-gunvalson-says-shes-willing-to-fix-friendship-with-shannon-beador-tamra-jude-sends-vicki-a-tweet/

 

If I were Shannon, my response to that BS would be um, guess we're not going to be friends again cause I don't owe you a damn thing!  Seriously, Vicki can eat it, she should crawl on her knees back to Shannon.  I only hope Shannon doesn't lower herself to the level of thinking she has to do anything to "earn" Vicki's so-called friendship.  

[Grneyedldy]

Since Tamra is a real estate salesperson I wouldn't be surprised if she assisted Briana and Ryan in finding a new home.

Then would that be Tamra's first sale?

[zoeysmom]

Since Tamra is a real estate salesperson I wouldn't be surprised if she assisted Briana and Ryan in finding a new home.

I would not only be surprised but deeply disappointed.  Stay away from Briana.

 

Tamra, Eddie and the Beadors seem to be enjoying themselves at Javiers:  https://instagram.com/p/-IdwjDPCor/

 

And who would they run into but the Dubrows: https://instagram.com/p/-IhDI9vCtQ/

[Former Nun]

I only hope Shannon doesn't lower herself to the level of thinking she has to do anything to "earn" Vicki's so-called friendship.

 

 

Isn't this a television show?  Producers and Andy Cohen are generally in charge of whomever lowers and/or earns.   Even viewers, most of whom would like to say adios to Vicki have no voice...apparently.

[Cherrio]

When viewers stop watching their voices do make a huge difference. Low ratings, goodbye certain cast members or goodbye show.

 

I will not watch if Vicki is back.

 

I think Vicki should get what she deserves, except she deserves it. Shannon did not.

[Almost 3000]

Then would that be Tamra's first sale?

or Jeana's. Hum, which team could it have been...

[motorcitymom65]

I don't think the TH having anything to do with compensation, someone came up with that theory when Joe Giudice stopped making them.  For the married couples the money for use of their house and salaries are essentially community property.  Unlike the husbands the adult children have no claim to their mothers' earnings.  For a variety of reasons they do not want to pay double taxes.  The players all sign contracts and waivers and I just don't see any of them signing off without a check.  More importantly why would Jacqueline lie straight away to Andy's face?  She said it on WWHL.  If it were untrue I would think Andy would have corrected her. The Manzo kids got paid early on, Teresa even went after Caroline claiming her children don't work.  This is a billion dollar enterprise so paying these adult children $30 or $50k is really pretty small peanuts.   The reason the minor children don't get paid is they are skirting child labor laws. 

 

Brooks has said prior to the season he got paid peanuts ($15,000) for his previous appearances.  I am thinking he is talking about getting paid for being on the Reunions.  I do believe in addition to his 1,000 other faults Brooks was always angry he could not cash in on RHOC exposure.  Obviously he since has cashed in by doing interviews. 

You could be right about the Juicy deal, but it came from Teresa (yes, she is a lying liar who lies).  She said that after the first season he refused to do the TH interviews despite the fact that it meant he would no longer be paid.  Because, you know, it was work. 

 

My guess is that the compensation has changed over the years, just like the show itself. Brandi has said that she was paid $18K for her first season as a "friend of", and Andy has never said that wasn't true (she has said it over and over again). It's hard for me to picture Brandi getting $18K for a season that she was featured heavily, while Ashley made $30K, but maybe they changed the structure? Either way, I just don't see Brianna making much off of this show. She is only on because of her mom. She has no storyline away from Vicki. They would never fly to Oklahoma to film just Brianna and her life. She is going to be on with or without pay because her mom needs her to give her some type of a story. My guess is that Vicki gets something for showing the shit storm that is her relationship with Brianna (why else would you allow the public to see such horror), and that she shares with Brianna. I think that the reason they pay the husbands/kids to be on the reunions is because they are not under contract to Bravo like the HW's are and don't have to show up.

Edited November 19, 2015 by motorcitymom65

[Beden]

 

When can we do to get her off this show? She is a piss poor example of women at her age. Wondering if she's ever had Business issues  with her selling annuities. Huge consumer complaint issues with this kind of financial product.

Vicki is a poor example of a woman at any age. She's a poor example of a person any age.

 

I keep thinking of what a friend of mine, a psych nurse, once told me regarding drug addicts (No, I'm not suggesting that Vicki is an addict); 'You know how you can tell when an addict is lying? Their mouth is moving.'

Vicki in a nutshell.

 

[zoeysmom]

You could be right about the Juicy deal, but it came from Teresa (yes, she is a lying liar who lies).  She said that after the first season he refused to do the TH interviews despite the fact that it meant he would no longer be paid.  Because, you know, it was work. 

 

My guess is that the compensation has changed over the years, just like the show itself. Brandi has said that she was paid $18K for her first season as a "friend of", and Andy has never said that wasn't true (she has said it over and over again). It's hard for me to picture Brandi getting $18K for a season that she was featured heavily, while Ashley made $30K, but maybe they changed the structure? Either way, I just don't see Brianna making much off of this show. She is only on because of her mom. She has no storyline away from Vicki. They would never fly to Oklahoma to film just Brianna and her life. She is going to be on with or without pay because her mom needs her to give her some type of a story. My guess is that Vicki gets something for showing the shit storm that is her relationship with Brianna (why else would you allow the public to see such horror), and that she shares with Brianna. I think that the reason they pay the husbands/kids to be on the reunions is because they are not under contract to Bravo like the HW's are and don't have to show up.

First off Brandi never said on air to Andy how  much she got paid.  Jacqueline said it on live TV in response to a caller.     Brandi was auditioning and given really minimum pay.  The kids were known quantities and often an integral part to their mothers' storylines.  Once Brandi became relevant she got paid.

 

I think there are two important components missing.  First off the adult children are bound  by contracts and their parents cannot make commitments or sign waivers on their behalf.  So they are in control of negotiating their own contract.  There may be contingencies with the RH contract that all people in the household must sign waivers and agree to be filmed.

 

I do not know if they pay the kids or husbands to be on the Reunions specifically.  I see Briana differently, I see her as shrewd.  She didn't work in nursing for a couple of years and those years on Bravo she heavily featured.  I am not speaking as to the hours but the storyline.  Most of the time these bit players agree to be paid for each filming day.  Or they can be paid by the season.   So for Briana and her mother visiting OKC for four or five days she would be paid.  Lord knows most of the footage in OKC was a snore until Briana decided she needed to bring Brooks up-which she did through her mother.  The other extensive filming was Briana and family in the OC.  Just because we only see a few minutes doesn't mean she wasn't filming four or five days.  As to the Reunion Briana was showcased far more than either Heather or Meghan.  I wanted a hook to pull her smug face off stage especially when she started chastising the others and telling them why her mom was such a lying bitch and she should be forgiven or pitied. 

 

Based on the number of days of filming I think Briana made substantial money and had the added bonus of having her family flown out twice. 

[zoeysmom]

Brooks and Jim Marchese to collaborate on tell-all book:  http://realmrhousewife.com/2015/11/19/jim-marchese-and-brooks-ayers-collaborating-on-book/

 

Brooks paid $12,000.00 for fake documents?:  http://www.allabouttrh.com/brooks-ayers-sold-forged-cancer-docs-for-12000/

At some point Vicki and Brooks need to stop being a story.  http://www.allabouttrh.com/vicki-gunvalson-to-get-own-tell-all-interview-special-with-andy-cohen/  I want to tell the other women I am sorry doesn't cut it.  All I can think of is when Teresa Giudice made everyone mad she ran these fake letters in a tabloid exacerbating the situation.

[ghoulina]

Jim Marchese. Now there is a name I never wanted to hear again. Way to guarantee people WON'T read your book. 

[zoeysmom]

Vicki and Brooks meeting up?  http://www.allabouttrh.com/are-vicki-gunvalson-brooks-ayers-reuniting-in-florida/

[misschung]

 

Well, to be fair, we don't know anything about the house Briana and Ryan bought so I wouldn't assume Vicki paid for it.  Secondly, I don't think there has to be any ulterior motive about Briana moving back to OC.  She grew up there and never wanted to leave in the first place.  She'll probably go back to working at the hospital where she previously worked.

Except that she did say she wanted to leave, for a "fresh start."  She claimed she could be happy living anywhere. I guess that's not the case. I still think she likes the perks that being Vicki's daughter brings, and living next to her will just multiply that tenfold. 

[hottesthw]

Except that she did say she wanted to leave, for a "fresh start." She claimed she could be happy living anywhere. I guess that's not the case. I still think she likes the perks that being Vicki's daughter brings, and living next to her will just multiply that tenfold.

Exactly. Briana was filled with joy getting out of the OC and away from her mother. Not long ago ryan commented about never living in CA because it was so expensive and he'd never go in debt over a house. Briana likes to play head games with her mother and pretend like she's above it all and a better person when deep down, she's just looking out for herself (and those awful gifts she's forced to accept from her mother who visits her 14 times a year to help with her kids but at the same time is choosing her boyfriend over her family). Briana can take several seats, preferably not on this show though.

[chenoa333]

there's one reason that I'm happy for Brianna moving back to the OC....now she can get some color on her pasty white legs.

Aside from that, I still wish she would disappear from RHOC

Edited November 20, 2015 by chenoa333

[misschung]

 

Not long ago ryan commented about never living in CA because it was so expensive and he'd never go in debt over a house.

Yes!  I guess now that he threw out his back he's more than happy to live next to the bank of Vicki.  I know he was hurt in the service, but I still can't stand the guy. I suspect that living with chronic pain will only intensify his temper and shorten his fuse even more... 

 

 

 

there's one reason that I'm happy for Brianna moving back to the OC....now she can get some color on her pasty white legs.

Aside from that, I still wish she would disappear from RHOC

 ROFL! 

[PhilMarlowe2]

Vicki and Brooks meeting up?  http://www.allabouttrh.com/are-vicki-gunvalson-brooks-ayers-reuniting-in-florida/

 

They are like a real life, modern-day "Double Indemnity." I would kill for TV footage of their secret meetings and plans. I can just see them having clandestine meetings in the supermarket aisle and Vicki wearing her shades, uttering words like, "We're in this together, all the way down to the end of the line."

Edited November 20, 2015 by PhilMarlowe2

[Snarky McSnarky]

Since Tamra is a real estate salesperson I wouldn't be surprised if she assisted Briana and Ryan in finding a new home.

Technically, she's a real estate salesperson.  But in the real World, she's never sold a house.  

[chenoa333]

Technically, she's a real estate salesperson. But in the real World, she's never sold a house.

[chenoa333]

That is sooo true! And sadly, for Tamra, it is sooo funny.

That bitch doesn't know how to hustle her ass to make a living solo style.

She's always gotten what she needs with her looks. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with taking that road...it's just that the easy road is not always the most rewarding.

IMO

Edited November 20, 2015 by chenoa333

[Kiss my mutt]

Yeah, but Tamra's ugly.

[chenoa333]

yes, Tamra is ugly inside and out. However IMO the outside has only recently become ugly. Too much crazy injections, fillers...I don't even know what the f she's doing to herself but she needs to google these two older ladies:

Dana Delaney 60

Christie Brinkley 61-ish

and here's Tamra at 48... can't even come close to these women's beauty.

Good luck Gramballs...your ugly inside is seeping through your pores

[misschung]

So mad that the reunion forums are locked because I just watched them this week!

I just found Ryan's profile on LinkedIn - interesting summary!

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-culberson-b303a6103

I have to say, I'm STILL confused about the whole Brooks/Vicki timeline. Seems Briana knew about him for several years, but e dry time she reveals something new about him, the story is slightly different.

[SCS]

I just found Ryan's profile on LinkedIn - interesting summary!

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-culberson-b303a6103

 

Good grief -- RE and house flippin'. This season on The Real Housewives of Orange County: Tamra, seeing as how she's a successful RE agent and all, takes on the role of mentor to Ryan, guiding his professional trajectory in the challenging OC market. Yak.

[Snarky McSnarky]

So mad that the reunion forums are locked because I just watched them this week!

I just found Ryan's profile on LinkedIn - interesting summary!

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-culberson-b303a6103

 

I don't think the dude has the personality for sales.  "Buy this house and keep your fucking feet off the couch.  I'm not gonna waste my time showing you multiple properties!"

 

If he wants to be a flipper, maybe Donn can help.  Remember when Donn tried to get Michael to help him renovate a house he and a friend were flipping?  That didn't work out so well.

[Kiss my mutt]

It just occurred to me that briana's husband and Tamra's son have the same name. I was getting confused. Neither Ryans would be good at sales. Maybe drugs.

[zoeysmom]

All I can say about Ryan and wanting to flip houses is good luck.  I think he and Briana probably picture themselves as Tark and whatshername from HGTV "Flip or Flop".  Newbie flippers are usually not terribly successful and add Vicki's business acumen post RH debut and he will forever regret leaving the USMC without a pension.

[misschung]

I think he's a total gold-digger. I wonder what kind of exit package he has from the marines if he left on medical discharge. For a guy who loved the service and claimed that any marine job is superior to a civilian one, his actions certainly say otherwise. I knew it would only be a matter of time before those two were back in the OC enjoying the benefits of the bank of Vicki.

[mbaywife123]

Great Googly Moogly,

Vicki has just launched a new perfume. (Vbyvicki.com)

My guess is the top note is desperation and medium and low notes are delusion and rotten orange!

[mbaywife123]

Haha.

Vicki's "fragrance" is already on markdown at Amazon.

$29.99 to $19.99 to $14.99 w/free shipping.

Dollar bin store here it comes!

Edited December 1, 2015 by mbaywife123

[BucFan]

Great Googly Moogly,

Vicki has just launched a new perfume. (Vbyvicki.com)

My guess is the top note is desperation and medium and low notes are delusion and rotten orange!

And a touch of the wonderful aroma Bull Shit.

[BrianJ62]

And a touch of the wonderful aroma Bull Shit.

Odor de *tank

[glowlights]

Okay, which one of you preverts wrote this Amazon review? I'd like to hug you:

 

V for Vicki? More like V for volatile.
Derived from Vicki's own bitter tears and failed vodka, this fragrance will be WOO--HOOING it's way under your tree this holiday season.
If you want to smell like deceit, then this is the aroma for you.

Disclaimer: This liquid did NOT cure Brooks of Cancer.