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Ok, couple days behind, and saving the new stuff 'til I get tired of the old stuff with current 1 new/1 rerun schedule. Just watched the two never-married exes who are feuding over a car that was purchased jointly and the loan in both names. Not much to say about the case itself. Have to say I enjoyed lippy new bf getting the boot, and the way Byrd escorted him all the way out. Really, reason I'm writing is plaintiff reporting car as stolen, even though she knew the co-owner of the car had the car. Defendant's comment about the only reason he wasn't arrested as a regular, guns drawn, face down on the ground,  felony type of arrest was that cop knew him...

TIME OUT FOR RANT: hmmm, after a few minutes thought, figured this may be wrong place for the rant.... moved to to Small talk Chambers (but thanks to those who have already replied or liked the rant.

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Oh come on, really?  This tender flower  tries to run over the park manager because he was "bullying" him to get out of the way!  "He was SCREAMING at me, Judge!".  GAH!  Come on, the world doesn't revolve around YOU!  This jerk was willing to RUN OVER this older gentleman because he was BULLYING him!  Please, folks, we need to teach our children to NOT act like this!

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I think JJ was biased by physical appearance in the trailer park/dented hood case.  Reverse those two guys -- a young guy who looks like he works out (belligerent attitude is assumed) and an older man who looks like he'd wilt if you looked at him cross-eyed.  If the younger guy had dented the hood, JJ would have thrown the book at him.

If defendant was angry enough to put dents in a car hood with his hands, he's got issues. 

Plaintiff wasn't innocent though, and may have been looking for a fight.  He shouldn't have moved his car -- it gave defendant an excuse to escalate the confrontation.

If the road through the park was really two-lanes, it makes no sense to make tenants drive one way to leave and another way to enter.  I'll bet that rule is violated more often than it's observed. 

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58 minutes ago, Brattinella said:

Oh come on, really?  This tender flower  tries to run over the park manager because he was "bullying" him to get out of the way!  "He was SCREAMING at me, Judge!".  GAH!  Come on, the world doesn't revolve around YOU!  This jerk was willing to RUN OVER this older gentleman because he was BULLYING him!  Please, folks, we need to teach our children to NOT act like this!

Am I the only one who flash backed to Planes, Trains and Automobiles and heard "you're going the wrong way!" And John Candy (RIP) replying, "how do they know where we're going?" Right before John has on a devil costume...hee! It never gets old!

But, yeah, if I were a newbie on a property and manager tells me to do something, I'm doing it!

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Great re-run today.  The plaintiff was suing her ex-boyfriend for the return of a dog.  The guy muttered (loud enough to hear), "She's not gettin' that dog back" as JJ was leaving the bench after finding in favor of the plaintiff.  JJ recalled the case and told the guy that he needed to contact whoever had the dog and have the dog transferred back to the plaintiff's designee back home; otherwise, the defendant wasn't getting one more penny of JJ's money, nor was she going to pay for the airfare for def and his girlfriend to get back to Spokane.

Just out of curiosity, I googled the def.  He has a criminal record for a drive-by shooting.  Salt of the earth, that one.

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5 hours ago, Brattinella said:

This tender flower  tries to run over the park manager because he was "bullying" him to get out of the way! 

Wow. What a smart-mouthed wannabe wise guy. I  liked how when he said he was driving a Corolla, he had to add, "Soccer Mom Model." I've been to Toyota many times and never saw that model there. I guess he wanted to highlight how funny it is that such a macho guy is driving a sissy car.  Nice of him to inform JJ of what's relevant and challenges what she "thinks" is legal. Maybe he's a lawyer on the side. He seems pretty up on the law, such as there are no rules or laws to be obeyed on private property? If Mr. Macho wants to drive down the street the wrong way, then people should just stfu and MOVE. No one tells HIM what to do!

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Well, I hope you're all enjoying your brand-spanking new episodes because the hillbilly channel on which I rely for my JJs has decided to air reruns where the new shows should be. Oh, sure, I get the episode descriptions for the new ones -- only to be hosed by some 2014 rerun they've swapped in instead that I've seen three times already.  

The only new case I did get was Disability vs. Disability. The best part of that case was, as usual, the hallterview where Plaintiff Disability's new lady friend chimed in, quite proud of herself, with, "I was his first wife and now we're getting back together." Oh, lucky, lucky, you. Good luck in all your future bar fights together.

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5 hours ago, AZChristian said:

Great re-run today.  The plaintiff was suing her ex-boyfriend for the return of a dog.  The guy muttered (loud enough to hear), "She's not gettin' that dog back" as JJ was leaving the bench after finding in favor of the plaintiff.  JJ recalled the case and told the guy that he needed to contact whoever had the dog and have the dog transferred back to the plaintiff's designee back home; otherwise, the defendant wasn't getting one more penny of JJ's money, nor was she going to pay for the airfare for def and his girlfriend to get back to Spokane.

Just out of curiosity, I googled the def.  He has a criminal record for a drive-by shooting.  Salt of the earth, that one.

That defendant was scary. He seemed like the type who would harm or kill the dog out of spite. And of course the defendant’s GF understood why he was at the plaintiff’s residence and why she had been “in the shower” when loverboy stole the dog. I’m glad that JJ ruled to withhold airfare until the dog was somewhere safe.

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1 hour ago, Intocats said:

That defendant was scary. He seemed like the type who would harm or kill the dog out of spite. And of course the defendant’s GF understood why he was at the plaintiff’s residence and why she had been “in the shower” when loverboy stole the dog. I’m glad that JJ ruled to withhold airfare until the dog was somewhere safe.

Has she ever done anything like that before?  It was great!

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14 hours ago, AuntiePam said:

Reverse those two guys -- a young guy who looks like he works out (belligerent attitude is assumed) and an older man who looks like he'd wilt if you looked at him cross-eyed.  If the younger guy had dented the hood, JJ would have thrown the book at him.

A perfect encapsulation of one of JJ's biases. It do not help that the plaintiff was an arrogant asshole.

 

14 hours ago, AuntiePam said:

If defendant was angry enough to put dents in a car hood with his hands, he's got issues. 

Defendant may well be one of these soft-spoken people who let power get to their head the moment they are placed in a position of authority, even a minor one.

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9 hours ago, Giant Misfit said:

"I was his first wife and now we're getting back together."

Hey, I'd brag too, if I re-hooked that primo catch. I'm positive his windfall of 140K had nothing to do with her renewed passion for her man.

59 minutes ago, Florinaldo said:

It do not help that the plaintiff was an arrogant asshole.

It also did not help when he admitted he had no intention of turning around, continued to move his car towards a person's body and that he expected def to MOVE. I'd yell and bang a hood too - with anything at hand - if someone were threatening to hit me with a car.

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On ‎1‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 0:04 PM, AngelaHunter said:

I am so using the word "Janky" to describe certain litigants from this day hence:

MARRY ME, @AngelaHunter!  I'll cut Mr. Toes to the ditch and we can run off together with our cheeseballs and wine!  And TeeVee.  And DVR.  Your New Year's Wishes for all of us were just so sweet, and sappy, and heartfelt. 

My computer has been dead all week, and so I'm catching up on everything. Absolutely dying here, and laughing so hard Mr. Toes may cut ME to the ditch.

New Eps this week!! (I think. We've been down this road before.)

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It also did not help when he admitted he had no intention of turning around, continued to move his car towards a person's body and that he expected def to MOVE. I'd yell and bang a hood too - with anything at hand - if someone were threatening to hit me with a car.

I have managed subcontractors installing buried fiber optic cabling. Whoever owns or manages the property has total control. My company and our subs have to follow their directions (if there is a real conflict between them and our ability to get the job done, this has to be escalated for our respective managements to figure it out, not our guys on the ground). We have to follow their restrictions regarding traffic flow, equipment positioning etc. If you want a real challenge, get certified and authorized to have our vehicles and people working beside an in-use runway at an airport. Also, you cannot imagine what happens when our crews discovered Native American artifacts and unidentified buried ordnance items. The punk was 100% wrong and would have been fired if he worked for me, although the property manager did not handle this well and probably would have gotten chewed out by his boss.

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On ‎1‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 6:28 PM, Cobalt Stargazer said:

STOP SAYING 'I SEEN IT'!!!!!

Don't throw any shoes, but for SOME folks, this is normal in the South. I taught with several well-educated, polite, conversationally-blessed people who said this all the time.  Drove me nuts, as it is still wrong.  (But worse was "theirselves" used by the English teachers.  Sigh. )   But "token" is in a whole 'nother category.

Could be a double post. I'm about two pages behind.  Ooops.   

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1 hour ago, AngelaHunter said:

It also did not help when he admitted he had no intention of turning around, continued to move his car towards a person's body and that he expected def to MOVE. I'd yell and bang a hood too - with anything at hand - if someone were threatening to hit me with a car.

You bet!  Even JJ said she would throw anything at that clod if it was her!  I don't blame him a bit.

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49 minutes ago, SandyToes said:

Don't throw any shoes, but for SOME folks, this is normal in the South. I taught with several well-educated, polite, conversationally-blessed people who said this all the time. 

I don't know about 'normal', but what's usual is not always right. It's usual and maybe even normal to say 'had came' if you're a court show litigant, but it's still dead wrong.

 

59 minutes ago, SandyToes said:

MARRY ME, @AngelaHunter

Okay. I'll get on CL to find some janky-ass dressmaker, super cheap wedding planner and videographer. We won't bother with any contracts (and if we do, we won't bother signing them) but will sue all of them later on JJ because the chicken wasn't crisp enough, my 150$ dress didn't match the 5K one in the picture I cut out of a magazine, and the 200$ photographer didn't have those mad Martin Scorsese skillz.  Janky masons, all of them!

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Actually, in the construction guy versus park manager case, had I been the park manager I would have MOVED and then immediately call the police.  No way I would risk my life over a dispute regarding driving the wrong way on a one-way street.  They both over-reacted and it really could have escalated more than it did.

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Not being a driver I would not know, but I would assume that private property CAN make traffic rules apply to their property.  Such as a cemetary or a place where small children may run, such as a, I don't know, TRAILER PARK.  Boy was just a rage-y jerk.  Soccer Mom my ass.

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2 hours ago, DoctorK said:

I have managed subcontractors installing buried fiber optic cabling. Whoever owns or manages the property has total control. My company and our subs have to follow their directions (if there is a real conflict between them and our ability to get the job done, this has to be escalated for our respective managements to figure it out, not our guys on the ground). We have to follow their restrictions regarding traffic flow, equipment positioning etc. If you want a real challenge, get certified and authorized to have our vehicles and people working beside an in-use runway at an airport. Also, you cannot imagine what happens when our crews discovered Native American artifacts and unidentified buried ordnance items. The punk was 100% wrong and would have been fired if he worked for me, although the property manager did not handle this well and probably would have gotten chewed out by his boss.

OT: I worked for the FAA for nearly 30 years before retirement. The last eight for the maintenance side in administrative services. The technicians I worked with helped with installation of fiber optics by runways and in buildings.

 

Back to JJ...Last night I saw the lovely young teen mom of two who was suing her God Mother for some drivel or other. Her lips were so huge she could not close them, nor could she form words properly. She'd left said GM's home to take her daughter to the daughter's GM's home so that she could relax from her busy life as a teen mom without a job. Oh, ain't life grand?

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1 hour ago, AngelaHunter said:

I don't know about 'normal', but what's usual is not always right. It's usual and maybe even normal to say 'had came' if you're a court show litigant, but it's still dead wrong.

 

Okay. I'll get on CL to find some janky-ass dressmaker, super cheap wedding planner and videographer. We won't bother with any contracts (and if we do, we won't bother signing them) but will sue all of them later on JJ because the chicken wasn't crisp enough, my 150$ dress didn't match the 5K one in the picture I cut out of a magazine, and the 200$ photographer didn't have those mad Martin Scorsese skillz.  Janky masons, all of them!

Hey, I sew! I'll do a piss poor job for you (if I can), and you can sue me! We'll be on TeeVee and we can split the winnin's! 

 

"Ya honah, I boughten the fabric that looked like the dress in the photo I seen, it wasn't the same fabric, it just looked the same. I knowed it wouldn't hang da same, but she didn't want to spended the money for good fabric. Then she kept changin' what she wanted. I tolded her in texes that if she changed it like dat it would look differnt and would costed more. My seams may not be da bestest, but she was only gonna wear it one day. I put the hood on wif safety pins 'cause she tolded me she was gonna take it off during da reception."

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30 minutes ago, Cocoabean said:

Hey, I sew! I'll do a piss poor job for you (if I can), and you can sue me! We'll be on TeeVee and we can split the winnin's! 

 

"Ya honah, I boughten the fabric that looked like the dress in the photo I seen, it wasn't the same fabric, it just looked the same. I knowed it wouldn't hang da same, but she didn't want to spended the money for good fabric. Then she kept changin' what she wanted. I tolded her in texes that if she changed it like dat it would look differnt and would costed more. My seams may not be da bestest, but she was only gonna wear it one day. I put the hood on wif safety pins 'cause she tolded me she was gonna take it off during da reception."

That's real professionality there.

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Don't forget the flowers. I will examine  them under spotlights and with a magnifying glass and if just one petal is not as erect as it should be, I will want not only all my money back, but money for pain and suffering due to the emotional trauma since My Special Day will be completely ruined forever and ever and my memories of my Wedding of the Century trampled and destroyed.

Yes, I know that in a year or two I'll be back before JJ suing my ex and calling him a money-hungry douchebag, an alcoholic drug addict/dealer who cheats on me and abused me physically, mentally, emotionally and financially and he broke my Grandma's dishes and my Grandma is DEAD!!! Yes, I knew all that before we got married, but I LOVED HIM/was obsessed with an ostentatious wedding that bankrupted my parents/was knocked up/thought he would turn into Prince Charming once I got that ring on my finger.

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6 hours ago, Florinaldo said:

A perfect encapsulation of one of JJ's biases. It do not help that the plaintiff was an arrogant asshole.

 

Defendant may well be one of these soft-spoken people who let power get to their head the moment they are placed in a position of authority, even a minor one.

Didn't he say he had been in jail before?

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4 minutes ago, Brattinella said:

I think he said he had been arrested once, he didn't elaborate.

And JJ didn't ask.  She only asked if the prior arrest had anything to do with the trailer park.  Surprised that she didn't ask if the arrest was for assault, or something involving a temper. 

Actually, I'm surprised that she asked at all.  Maybe she thought he'd say No, which would prove that he's an upstanding citizen who never lost control.  If he'd said No, her next question would be "Are you on any psychotropic medications?"

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5 hours ago, DoctorK said:

The punk was 100% wrong and would have been fired if he worked for me, although the property manager did not handle this well and probably would have gotten chewed out by his boss.

It was really a clash of two morons, one an extroverted asshole an the other an introverted jerk.

 

22 minutes ago, AuntiePam said:

If he'd said No, her next question would be "Are you on any psychotropic medications?"

I see that you got your copy of JJ's not-so-secret playbook.

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1 hour ago, Florinaldo said:

It was really a clash of two morons, one an extroverted asshole an the other an introverted jerk.

Maybe, but the clash would have been avoided if plaintiff had just done as he was told and stop driving the wrong way down a street. I guess he was afraid that def would think he wasn't really a tough guy, what with his "Soccer Mom" car and all, so had to prove it.

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Two more disabled litigants today.   I'm thinking that a lot of these folks are still getting paid only because the SSA doesn't have the resources to check up on them, to see if their condition has improved to the point where they could work.  It's easier to keep paying them than to monitor them, train them, help them find work. 

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29 minutes ago, AuntiePam said:

Two more disabled litigants today.   I'm thinking that a lot of these folks are still getting paid only because the SSA doesn't have the resources to check up on them, to see if their condition has improved to the point where they could work.  It's easier to keep paying them than to monitor them, train them, help them find work. 

I know someone who gets disability and he was re-evaluated several times.  The kid who has been getting it since 6 yrs old would certainly be checked periodically.  I am really starting to HATE her now; she is so judgmental on any disability payment.  It is NOT welfare, Judy!  It is NOT coming out of what little taxes you are required to pay.

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34 minutes ago, Brattinella said:

I am really starting to HATE her now; she is so judgmental on any disability payment.  It is NOT welfare, Judy!  It is NOT coming out of what little taxes you are required to pay.

Yes, THIS! Are there people scamming the system? Yes, of course, there are scammers everywhere. But there is nowhere near the kind of fraud levels in disability payments that HRH Judge Judy would steer us to believe. And receiving disability is nothing to be *ashamed* of as she so likes to imply. There are vulnerable people all over this country who depend on those benefits to keep a roof over their heads, food in their mouths, and afford medical care to keep them alive. What would she have these folks do? Starve and die because they're incapable of producing income for themselves? She is often a very terrible person who is incapable of empathy. 

I haven't seen the new episodes today and eagerly anticipate my disappointment when I find out my bargain basement affiliate has swapped them out for reruns a decade old. 

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1 hour ago, AngelaHunter said:

Maybe, but the clash would have been avoided if plaintiff had just done as he was told and stop driving the wrong way down a street. I guess he was afraid that def would think he wasn't really a tough guy, what with his "Soccer Mom" car and all, so had to prove it.

Well, if it comes down to a contest of "my stupidity is bigger than yours", I just won't bother with trying to apportion blame and will call it a draw on both litigants.

 

48 minutes ago, Brattinella said:

I am really starting to HATE her now; she is so judgmental on any disability payment.

 

4 minutes ago, Giant Misfit said:

Are there people scamming the system? Yes, of course, there are scammers everywhere. But there is nowhere near the kind of fraud levels in disability payments that HRH Judge Judy would steer us to believe.

I agree with both of you. As I posted Tuesday, I find her condescending and presumptuous when she presupposes that all litigants who receive disability are undeserving or scammers. But sweeping generalisations make for good TV (and even for successful political discourse) so I suppose she finds gratification in the ratings and plaudits it generates for her.

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6 hours ago, Cocoabean said:

"Ya honah, I boughten the fabric that looked like the dress in the photo I seen, it wasn't the same fabric, it just looked the same. I knowed it wouldn't hang da same, but she didn't want to spended the money for good fabric. Then she kept changin' what she wanted. I tolded her in texes that if she changed it like dat it would look differnt and would costed more. My seams may not be da bestest, but she was only gonna wear it one day. I put the hood on wif safety pins 'cause she tolded me she was gonna take it off during da reception."

Let me guess, you always upgrade to the latest phone, so those "texes" will be long gone before it goes to trial 

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3 minutes ago, Florinaldo said:

But sweeping generalisations make for good TV (and even for successful political discourse) so I suppose she finds gratification in the ratings and plaudits it generates for her.

Truth. I suspect she's not getting paid $35 million dollars a year to perfect the art of nuance. 

It's a shame. Sometimes I really love this show and other times I'm annoyed with myself for watching it.

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Regarding SSI disability payments-the payments DO come from taxes.  All government expenditures comes from their revenues which really are moneys that come from taxes.  These include individual income taxes (about 47% of revenue), payroll taxes ( which include social security taxes, etc.) are about 32% of revenues.  Corporate taxes account for about 12% and then the rest (excise, customs, etc.).  Social Security Disability payments are about 132 billion a year.  

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I am really starting to HATE her now; she is so judgmental on any disability payment.  It is NOT welfare, Judy!  It is NOT coming out of what little taxes you are required to pay.

To be fair, she does pay her FICA taxes and so she does help to fund SSDI.  Of course, it is a paltry sum relative to her salary, since the cap is like $128K.  But I digress.  And now I see that seaclifsal partially beat me to this.  However, as I understand it SSDI comes from it’s own trust fund, entirely paid for by FICA - NOT general tax revenue.  

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I don't understand why ANYONE receiving disability would choose to appear on Judge Judy. Her bias is so obvious.  I know there are welfare/SSI scammers out there, but not everyone receiving these  the benefits are scammers.  JJ treats the vast majority of them like they are scum. 

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36 minutes ago, momtoall said:

I know there are welfare/SSI scammers out there, but not everyone receiving these  the benefits are scammers.

For sure not everyone, but the majority we see here are. It's been my observation that when someone who is truly disabled - physically or mentally (disturbed, delayed or "fragile") JJ is mostly quite gentle with them.  It's people like the ex-civil servant in a repeat lately, who collects disability payments, yet is doing construction work, remodeling bathrooms, doing "cement work" and installing siding on houses that deserve the scorn of everyone. He tried to backpeddle, saying the cement work is not too often(?) and that he subs out heavier jobs after stating not two minutes earlier he does all the work himself. Under the table, of course.  I just partially remodeled a 5'x5' powder room - tore out the vanity and faucets, etc,  ripped up the floor tiles myself and dragged a toilet outside. That was very hard work and, unlike him, I"m not totally disabled.

I have a friend who is disabled, after working all her life. She does no landscaping or cement work because she can't walk and can barely lift her arms, yet has to fight nearly to her own death to get government assistance and adequate in-home care. The battle is ongoing.

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46 minutes ago, momtoall said:

I don't understand why ANYONE receiving disability would choose to appear on Judge Judy. Her bias is so obvious.  I know there are welfare/SSI scammers out there, but not everyone receiving these  the benefits are scammers.  JJ treats the vast majority of them like they are scum. 

THIS! On SSDI one is allowed to make money under a certain limit. JJ appears to think that only those who are bed bound should qualify. That said, the fellow who applied for a janitorial job while in jail? Perhaps he should be reevaluated? Same for the fellow I saw just recently who was disabled due to a back injury, but was suing for monies owed on a bathroom remodel he did? Also, so many of them working for cash? They'd do better to say they are allowed to make an income. "I keep track for reporting purposes, and am doing work that my body allows me to do when it allows me to do it." I suspect that wouldn't fly either..JJ's reply would be to GET A REAL JOB! 

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Litigants on JJ are not representative of the population in general nor of any sub-population they may belong to. It's not a representative sample because the show seems to attract people who find themselves, most often because of their own stupidity or malfeasance, in absurd financial, legal or personal predicaments that most common-sense people would avoid as a matter of course. The show would also be attractive to those with a shaky claim, since they have a chance to share in the award kitty and also get a free trip to L.A., better odds than in real small claims court for a lot of them. Finally, they are required to not care about being humiliated and looking like idiots on national TV.

Those are criteria that just no one I know would satisfy, and probably no one on this forum. As a result, despite the fact that some legitimate and reasonable disputes make it to the show, most cases and litigants represent the less appealing aspects of society. Therefore, JJ litigants receiving disability can easily be skewed towards the scammers and those playing the system.

But there are exceptions, as we saw with the case earlier this week where JJ pounced on the plaintiff for no good reason.

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3 hours ago, NYGirl said:

Saw this today ...how many episodes do you remember?

Oh, dear - I remember all of them. One of the very best was the extremely angry pink-shirted, short and portly, red-faced mighty hunter: "She stole my frickin' checks!" Why shouldn't he expect total integrity and honesty from some drunken girl who let him pick her up and had sex with that same night? Byrd needed to give him a quick lesson in deportment. Truly a classic.

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On ‎1‎/‎6‎/‎2018 at 6:20 PM, AngelaHunter said:

Oh, dear - I remember all of them. One of the very best was the extremely angry pink-shirted, short and portly, red-faced mighty hunter: "She stole my frickin' checks!" Why shouldn't he expect total integrity and honesty from some drunken girl who let him pick her up and had sex with that same night? Byrd needed to give him a quick lesson in deportment. Truly a classic.

Me as well.  There's a similar article that I wasn't able to get launched yesterday.  The person on the thumbnail was the guy who was accused of killing someone's cat, and in the hallterview gave some bizarre rambling rant about "WE'RE GAY!".  Then they later admitted that they made the whole thing up to get on TV.

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It was LooneyToons day. So this church has some sort of building that might used for "Man Caves"(?) or for housing the Cheshire-grinning plaintiff, who seemed to think her left profile was her best, I guess. When I see women like her and def's wife with very long, Alice-in-Wonderland ringlets, I know we're in for some wackiness. It's very disappointing to see so many church-y people who have no problem lying and scamming. Who knew? Tsk.

Then we had "I'm so glad you asked that" Grandma and her deaf husband (probably not deaf at all and just wants an excuse to ignore her) suing some handyman who got credit or somesuch on their Home Depot card to fix up their cabin. They sent their 23 year old drug addict grandson with said handyman as they, for some reason, thought he'd set him on the straight and narrow, or whatever. Maybe handyman and grandson's g/f were going to stage an intervention. Who knows. Proof? What proof? Oh, yes, well plaintiff's "business manager" who apparently cannot afford shampoo, has proof that def stole the money. OH, well. No, she doesn't. Sit down. I don't know what the deal was with all these characters, but they were quite colorful.  Call me crazy, but when I get renos done, I hire a reputable, licensed contractor. True, they may cost more but none have asked for my credit cards, showed up drunk,  asked if they could move in with me and I haven't had to sue any of them.

So, sixteen-year olds can't go to movies with s-e-x in them, can't buy a beer or a cigarette, but CAN get behind the wheel of a car and tool along the freeway. I just have never understood that and never will. So this kid hits his coach's car on the highway and makes up some ludicrous lie about why it's - of course - not his fault. It's someone else's fault. His mommy and daddy, who are willing to pay 2200$/year so their sweet baby boy can drive, are shocked that anyone would not believe every golden, honeyed word that drips from their snowflake's lips. His gaping, bug-eyed mommy in particular was near apoplexy at hearing JJ (who was very nice to the kid) say it's the boy's fault. She wasn't there, but she just knows what happened and her boy would not tell a lie! Mom, please get a bra with a little more support and a dress with a higher neckline. Please. Daddy (I guess it was Daddy) was mute in this.

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