All Episodes Talk: All Rise

[AngelaHunter]

1 minute ago, AZChristian said:

It seems like every news report of an untimely death includes the bank where deposits can be made, or the fact that a gofundme has been set up for funeral expenses.

I know! A child dies tragically, and the "family" manages to put aside their grief and gets a GoGimme fund set up the next day. The cynic in me pictures them rubbing their hands together and saying "Oh, boy!" When my father died, my mother went out and got a job to support her kids. It never occured to her to beg strangers to do it.  I guess it's just the times and I've admitted I'm a curmudgeon, unable to keep up.

[AZChristian]

I probably sounded insensitive, but what you've outlined, PsychoKlown, is something that a lot of us have observed.  I remember once JM was going off on someone for not paying a plaintiff money that was owed, but defendant came prancing into court with (as JM described it) a $600 purse.  Not one note of embarrassment from the def as she said, "It was a gift."

So you can't take the gift down to a pawn shop and get the money to pay off your debt?  People just have no sense of accountability these days.

/rant

[Jamoche]

Plaintiff wants $5000 for "inconveniences". We're barely 3 minutes in and JJ is already bringing the smackdown. *runs off for popcorn*

OK, this is one time where her "Move!" is valid. It's a month-to-month rent from the start; there's no lease to break, no penalties, male plaintiff is a tattoo artist who gets paid in cash and nods smugly when JJ speculates as to how much tax he pays, and since they didn't pay rent for 4 months they should have no trouble making a down payment elsewhere. Defendant is smart enough to keep quiet when she's winning; I don't think we got more than a dozen words from her until the halterview.

Edited November 10, 2016 by Jamoche

[Toaster Strudel]

One of my favorite type of cases today, in which JJ turns on the soft-spoken, wide-eyed plaintiff in favor of the defendant that did time!

[SRTouch]

Whoa, granny and the con. Granny just can't seem to tell the truth about anything, and has so many lies and stories floating around she can't remember what she just said. Funny thing was the panicked look when JJ caught her telling stories, and you could just about see her try to figure out what the next story should be. Dude has spent 1 day in jail for probation violation since getting paroled in 2014, so why try to make something thing of the past felony. He admits he had a troubled past, but seems to me he's doing pretty good. And the story about his lifting up his shirt to show off a scar. Geez did she look stupid when he says that was in response to daughter's scar from knee surgery. Then after a grilling, granny finally admits there was a knee surgery, but insists there was no scar. Uh, like JJ said, how would he know about the surgery unless he and the daughter discussed scars while waiting for granny to get back from one of the parts runs. Case did not go as expected when I heard the preview about a convict handyman being sued by sweet little granny.

[Mondrianyone]

8 minutes ago, Toaster Strudel said:

the soft-spoken, wide-eyed plaintiff in favor of the defendant that did time!

The soft-spoken, wide-eyed, lying monster from the pits of hell.  Sometimes you get to see pure, unadulterated evil in the unlikeliest of packages, and this was one of those times.

Either that's how she's made it through life routinely (helpful note to plaintiff:  That won't work anymore.  You're too old) or she had some particular reason to turn on this guy.  I have a theory that she wanted something more than her gutters cleaned and her pipes rehung (double entendre alert), and when she didn't get it, she turned vicious.  My only disappointment was that the handyman didn't sue her for $5 grand--I'm pretty sure he would've gotten it.  JJ was was in full avenging-angel mode for this one. 

[Spunkygal]

I think Ms Hammerschmidt or Hammersmith or whatever is actually hammered. But gotta hand it to her... The pearly whites in her mouth which were probably paid for by Byrd are not bad looking.

Edited November 11, 2016 by Spunkygal

[Brattinella]

3 minutes ago, Spunkygal said:

I think Ms Hammerschmidt or Hammersmith or whatever is actually hammered. But gotta hand it to her... The pearly whites in her mouth which were probably paid for by Byrd are not bad looking.

She was slurring big time in the hallterview!  Not even trying to hide it.  Yeesh.  Why JJ didn't pick up on it, dunno.

[SRTouch]

1 hour ago, SandyToes said:

Hallterview alert!  Curious case of Ms. Hammersmith and the repo'd car. Worth a rewind or two.  Case is meh, tho.

I kind of enjoyed the contrast between plaintiff and the defendant with her witness. Did defendant really say she went on disability 4 years ago because of a learning disability? Hmmm, maybe that's why she paid $3400 for a $1600 car. I loved it when JJ called up scruffy bf and he couldn't keep a straight face when JJ told him to convince her that defendant gave away the car to roommate Mooney. I was rooting for plaintiff to get back all her money. Sure she got the benefit of driving the car for 5 months, but this was a case I would have given the asked for punitive damages... say in the amount of $540, for a total of $1540 - which just happens to be what she paid.

[AZChristian]

5 minutes ago, Brattinella said:

She was slurring big time in the hallterview!  Not even trying to hide it.  Yeesh.  Why JJ didn't pick up on it, dunno.

Yep.  "Whutru laffin at?"

[Brattinella]

Anyone here know what kind of learning disability earns a check from the govt?

[NYCFree]

1 minute ago, Brattinella said:

Anyone here know what kind of learning disability earns a check from the govt?

I do.  It's intended for people who basically can't be trained to work at a job available in their area, even though they may be physically fit.  The weird thing about this case was that the defendant was a grown woman who said she was working at fast food places before she became disabled.  The people I have encountered who receive this have been identified since they were kids and began receiving it at age 18 or so.

The boyfriend was also slurring big time.

[AngelaHunter]

JFC! Charlotte Hammerschmidt! JFC! Terrifying, grotesque brute who seemed to be drunk as a skunk here. Of course she has plenty of time to drink. I guess her "learning disability" fortuitously commenced at the same time she upped her booze consumption. Or maybe the fast food restaurants found too much missing inventory. JFC! Her boyfriend? Well, as my mother used to say, "For every Adam, there's an Eve." Enchanting couple. I hope "Lexus Scales" (great name, BTW) has learned never to do deals with anyone like Charlotte Hammerschmidt. JFC...(!) This wiped nearly everything else from my brain, except for the repeat of the squattahs (he's 39 and she's 23 but looks 35) and their landlord, Diana. I couldn't help thinking that whatever Diana's hair cost, she overpaid.

[Brattinella]

24 minutes ago, NYCFree said:

I do.  It's intended for people who basically can't be trained to work at a job available in their area, even though they may be physically fit.  The weird thing about this case was that the defendant was a grown woman who said she was working at fast food places before she became disabled.  The people I have encountered who receive this have been identified since they were kids and began receiving it at age 18 or so.

The boyfriend was also slurring big time.

Yeah, that's what I meant.  How do you incur a learning disability at age, what, 40?

[SRTouch]

14 minutes ago, NYCFree said:

 It's intended for people who basically can't be trained to work at a job available in their area, even though they may be physically fit.  The weird thing about this case was that the defendant was a grown woman who said she was working at fast food places before she became disabled.  The people I have encountered who receive this have been identified since they were kids and began receiving it at age 18 or so..

That's about what I thought, and why I questioned her going on disability as a middle aged woman who apparently had a job before her learning disability became an issue. Now, if she said she had couldn't work her fast food shift because she is morbidly obese... and yes, according to google you CAN get disability if you're obesity for it to cause other problems. http://www.ssdrc.com/ssd-morbid-obesity.html

[AngelaHunter]

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How do you incur a learning disability at age, what, 40?

Booze does kill the brain cells, although I doubt you need to be a member of MENSA to work at McDonald's.

[BubblingKettle]

1 hour ago, Mondrianyone said:

I have a theory that she wanted something more than her gutters cleaned and her pipes rehung (double entendre alert), and when she didn't get it, she turned vicious.  

My theory: she didn't like what was brewing between him and her daughter. Comparing scars, especially with someone of the opposite sex? You're either in elementary school or you're getting "friendly." I don't know about you, but I don't play 'look at mine' with the man who reads the water meter or the electrician. So I think the plaintiff wanted him GONE because she didn't want Mr. Bad Rep around her grown special snowflake. Pissed off and controlling, the plaintiff went on overdrive to teach the defendant and her daughter a lesson -- in her own special way. She set him up to fail in a few ways, devised her accusations, and then spread the word to further sully his reputation, believing that it would drive him away from wanting to be near her daughter, and it would exercise her power over her daughter. I may be way off, but I sensed something from the plaintiff's crazy eyes and 'who, me?' mannerisms. 

And if she said texes one more time.....

[AZChristian]

1 hour ago, Brattinella said:

Anyone here know what kind of learning disability earns a check from the govt?

Google "crazy check" . . . training children to qualify for them is a cottage industry in some neighborhoods.

[AngelaHunter]

1 hour ago, AZChristian said:

Google "crazy check" . . . training children to qualify for them is a cottage industry in some neighborhoods.

I read the Urban Dict. definition. It does not surprise me in the least.

[AuntiePam]

1 hour ago, AZChristian said:

Google "crazy check" . . . training children to qualify for them is a cottage industry in some neighborhoods.

I read somewhere that years ago, people would purposely maim themselves so that they'd be more sympathetic as street beggars.  Or maybe it was in a Dickens novel. 

Maybe the SSA has become more practical in awarding disability payments.  Who would hire that woman -- for anything?  I wouldn't trust her to walk my dog. 

[Toaster Strudel]

Hey if that car brought up such sad memories that she had to dump it cheap on some stranger, why did she repo it and give it to someone she lives with?  She missed the bad memories?

[AngelaHunter]

50 minutes ago, AuntiePam said:

Who would hire that woman -- for anything?  I wouldn't trust her to walk my dog. 

Walk my dog? I wouldn't trust her to scoop poop. (JFC!)

[Ilovecomputers]

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Overall, I think Holly has a few screws loose, don't know about the father since he didn't say much of anything, although he had the most impressive binder of organized documents I have ever seen.

Yes, he seemed crestfallen that Judy wouldn't hear his counter-claim because plaintiff hadn't been served in time, but he was the most well prepared person I've seen in some time.  I counted 2 binders, and the baby is 18 months old. Wonder how many volumes he'll be up to in 16.5 years. 

[Sarcastico]

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JFC! Charlotte Hammerschmidt! JFC! Terrifying, grotesque brute who seemed to be drunk as a skunk here.

And she seemed worse in the hallterview.  Blinking her eyes just like Granny in Granny vs. the Con.  As if they'd been woken up at 3 in the morning.

Let me tell you a story about scar-showing.  My late mama had 6 (six) older brothers.  Uncle Henry had been stabbed; Uncle Harvey had been shot on 2 different occasions; and Uncle Howard had been shot and stabbed.  Us kids used to beg them to show us the scars, and to tell us the hair-raising stories of how they got them.  But of course, kids love that kind of thing.  Family reunions with these dudes were a lot of fun.

[bad things are bad]

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"Whutru laffin at?"

Gold, Jerry, GOLD! I laughed like hell at that. 

[Mrs Shibbles]

16 hours ago, Brattinella said:

She was slurring big time in the hallterview!  Not even trying to hide it.  Yeesh.  Why JJ didn't pick up on it, dunno.

I could smell the booze through the TV.

[khyber]

12 hours ago, AuntiePam said:

I read somewhere that years ago, people would purposely maim themselves so that they'd be more sympathetic as street beggars.  Or maybe it was in a Dickens novel. 

 

I lived in Taiwan 25 years ago and it was common knowledge that professional beggar families would maim a young child to up the take on begging.

[califred]

That woman was nasty.  And she certainly wasn't concerned enough to research him before the work which would be a good idea with kids in your house.  The ex con seemed like he was trying to improve his life.  

[SRTouch]

4 hours ago, califred said:

That woman was nasty.

Yeah, but looked like a sweet little old lady. 40 years ago she would have been one of the 20-somethings who come on and pose, smile and act all sweet while lieing.

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The ex con seemed like he was trying to improve his life.  

Exactly, it appears getting shot and sent to prison made enough of an impact to make him step back and realise he needed to change. So often you get the ex druggie come on and swear they're off drugs, and you can tell by their unhealthy appearance they still using. Not this guy - he looked clean and sober, admitted he had the problem, but insisted that was in the past and had nothing to do with granny's case. I was glad he got something for the false restraining order, and would have been happy for JJ administered a little harder slap down to granny.

Edited November 11, 2016 by SRTouch
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[califred]

I must have missed the end, my husband is off for a four day weekend for Veterans Day and while I was watching I wasn't paying a huge amount of attention at the end.  I'm glad he got $$$ too.

[SRTouch]

4 minutes ago, califred said:

I must have missed the end, my husband is off for a four day weekend for Veterans Day and while I was watching I wasn't paying a huge amount of attention at the end.  I'm glad he got $$$ too.

IIRC, he got $800 because JJ was PO'ed about the flimsy story in the restraining order application. He tried to get defamation and lost wages, saying he had handyman jobs lined up that canceled on him once granny started bad mouthing him around the small town. 

[ItsHelloPattiagain]

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I am going to set up a gofundme account.  I have stomach issues.  It might be poor diet or IBS, but it could be stomach cancer and I will need money.  So all of you will donate something to me, right? Maybe when your tax refund comes?

Oh, hell. . .sorry my tax refund is all taken up. . . . my SIL's cousin (who was adopted by his parents and grew up with him, then had four kids by three different baby daddies, three of which were adopted by SIL's parents due to cousin's drug use and general eff-ery) started a GoFundMe so. . . ...she could travel to Michigan to get her new BF's child (since BF apparently was on parole and couldn't go over state borders) AND to regain custody of one of the kids that was taken from her due to neglect 14 years ago. I kid you not. 

Due to the election and work, I have a bunch of stored JJs on my DVR. Gonna have myself a viewing party over the weekend, woo hoo. (however, I did catch Miss Holly Go-Not-So-Lightly and her cracked out ways. Defendant seems so organized and, dare I say it, normal. . . but he did procreate with Holly, sooooooo.....

[AZChristian]

20 minutes ago, ItsHelloPattiagain said:

Oh, hell. . .sorry my tax refund is all taken up. . . . my SIL's cousin (who was adopted by his parents and grew up with him, then had four kids by three different baby daddies, three of which were adopted by SIL's parents due to cousin's drug use and general eff-ery) started a GoFundMe so. . . ...she could travel to Michigan to get her new BF's child (since BF apparently was on parole and couldn't go over state borders) AND to regain custody of one of the kids that was taken from her due to neglect 14 years ago. I kid you not. 

Due to the election and work, I have a bunch of stored JJs on my DVR. Gonna have myself a viewing party over the weekend, woo hoo. (however, I did catch Miss Holly Go-Not-So-Lightly and her cracked out ways. Defendant seems so organized and, dare I say it, normal. . . but he did procreate with Holly, sooooooo.....

And are any of these people your "godsister" or "godbrother" or "godniece" or "godnephew"?  This is a family(?) relationship I'd never heard of until I started watching court shows.

[califred]

You hear those terms a lot in the South, until I moved there I'd only heard of Godparents.

 

In Hawaii everyone you know is Auntie and Uncle to kids.

[SandyToes]

<small voice>  I'm kinda' liking Mr. Cory-set-my-yard-on-fire-Price in the early rerun.   Just something about him. I also liked the discussion of adverse possession - my mom is fighting that exact thing on our 100-year old family farm.

The piece of work who burned the kitchen down - holy moley.  "What do you do?"  "I sit around and wait for him (bf) to come home."  I sit around a lot, too, but manage to work part time and do the odd load of laundry.   I think JJ was right to demand evidence plaintiff had paid the landlord for the fire damages. I'm guessing a big NOT!

Ms. Hammerschmidt was quite the piece of work.  I wonder exactly who (or how many) were laughing at her?  Everybody? Surprised the camera wasn't shaking.

Edited November 11, 2016 by SandyToes

[Silver Raven]

1 hour ago, ItsHelloPattiagain said:

sorry my tax refund is all taken up

You misspelled "tooken".

[Quof]

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sorry my tax refund is all taken up

You also misspelled "refund". It's a tax return.

[SRTouch]

2 hours ago, SandyToes said:

Ms. Hammerschmidt was quite the piece of work.  I wonder exactly who (or how many) were laughing at her?  Everybody? Surprised the camera wasn't shaking.

Well, you see since they always do in hallterview in the same spot so they have the camera set up on a tripod (or whatever they have for big ass TV cameras). That way the cameraman can be rolling in the ground laughing and the camera doesn't shake.

[Brooklynista]

21 hours ago, AZChristian said:

Yep.  "Whutru laffin at?"

Who was she even talking to?? I thought she was yelling at me! 

[BubblingKettle]

Two pretty good JJ episodes in a row today! I should have been doing work, but the 'witness is dead' and the 'drunk casino fight' cases captured my attention. I know this is so wrong, but I laughed when Ms. Rodgers started crying just as she said she bought Mr. Tall Collar Dobbs a Hennessey. Both the taste and the memories of Hennessey can make people cry.  What was getting censored when she said, "I'm your ___?" I wasn't looking directly at the TV, so I couldn't read her lips. I caught the B-word part, though. Confession: I was completely foxed by Ms. Rodgers' story! With the rich level of detail and the steady delivery, I thought she had been telling the truth! The videos were entertaining, and, in the end, I figured they were both at fault.

[AuntiePam]

3 hours ago, AZChristian said:

And are any of these people your "godsister" or "godbrother" or "godniece" or "godnephew"?  This is a family(?) relationship I'd never heard of until I started watching court shows.

I'm reading "Ghettoside" by Jill Leovy -- nonfiction, about the murders of young black men in LA and the detectives who work those cases.  Leovy writes about the close relationships in the black neighborhoods, relationships through blood and marriage and also kids sharing mothers and fathers (baby momma and baby daddy) , and one relationship I'd never heard before is "play sister" and "play cousin", etc.  It's like saying "friend" isn't enough -- the relationships are closer than that.  Interesting. 

In today's Dead Reggie case, I didn't understand the photo of the watch on someone's wrist.  Was it one of the photos that the skinny woman gave to Reggie's girlfriend, along with the porn?  Did she take a photo of the stolen watch as she was wearing it?   

[Toaster Strudel]

I even thought this was going to be the first case of domestic violence ever where JJ would rule in the woman's favor!

Those cell phone videos sure rained on my firecrackers.

[DoctorK]

I am really disappointed that I didn't get "dead Reggie", our second show today was a rerun of the ill-fitting bridal gown displayed on the too small mannequin, and the right turn on red case. My cable guide told me I would have all new cases today on both shows, don't know whether to blame Cox or the actual station (WPMI in Mobile) for the bad info, I think I will just be pissed off at both of them.

[Brattinella]

The ladies in the Dead Reggie case had me captivated.  Such beautiful plumage!  I just wish Ms Plaintiff had invested in a little more support up top.

[SRTouch]

36 minutes ago, Toaster Strudel said:

I even thought this was going to be the first case of domestic violence ever where JJ would rule in the woman's favor!

Those cell phone videos sure rained on my firecrackers.

Wow, dueling videos. If that dude drank half what she claimed he sure has a high tolerance for alcohol - drinking all day, back to back doubles of Hennessy downstairs, switching to Captain Morgan in the room, and like JJ comments plaintiff looks to be the drunk one after her half drink. Kind of strange that plaintiff showed her edited short version when she knew dude was already recording and could turn around and show what she cut. That's what really flushed her case. Once we see his longer version we hear her admit she slapped him, and see that she did not call 911 when she claimed, she waits until he is out of the bathroom, dressed and almost ready to leave the room. All through the whole recording he's telling her to leave, get out of his room. When she finally does call, she announces that she's willing to go to jail just to see him jailed... who thinks that someone that vengeful might also file a false small claims case?

[Brooklynista]

I think I need to save this Mr. Double Hennesy case for a while. I need to playback the cellphone video of him shirtless a few times before I'm ready to pass judgement. I think I might pour myself a shot right now and rewatch. I can't say I wouldn't be guilty of following him from room to room myself while he was looking like a tall drink of water. 

He was a very nice change of pace from the teeth less, badly dressed, broken language yokels we normally see on JJ.

Edited November 12, 2016 by Brooklynista

[patty1h]

Mr. Hennessey Drinker was so patient - Ms. Rogers kept repeating herself and refusing to leave and I admire that he kept cool.  I'm sitting in my house and I'm yelling at her "why don't you just leave!?".  She just couldn't seem to understand that he was done.  It was smart of him to pull out the phones to record that mess and cover himself.  

I hope JJ got through to her - don't buy a man a bunch of drinks, rat on his friend that he's trying to make a move on you, then keep arguing when the man asks you to leave.

Edited November 12, 2016 by patty1h

[SRTouch]

1 hour ago, AuntiePam said:

In today's Dead Reggie case, I didn't understand the photo of the watch on someone's wrist.  Was it one of the photos that the skinny woman gave to Reggie's girlfriend, along with the porn?  Did she take a photo of the stolen watch as she was wearing it?   

Sounds crazy, but I halfway believe that's exactly what she did... just to taunt her. My impression was that plaintiff was expecting a totally different type of pictures, and crazy wife who hasn't lived with Reggie for ten years stole her stuff, gave her a picture of the watch on her wrist and a bunch of porn.

I probably shouldn't poke fun this way... but couldn't it be that Reggie actually went into witness protection to get away from these two?

[Silver Raven]

Were those porn pictures of Reggie with some other woman?

[Brooklynista]

I watched Dead Reggie with Mr. Brooklyn and I let him know that his if any of his old hoes show up at the funeral looking for stuff, they will be assed out. I'm keeping every damn thing. Nevermind if we haven't lived together for 10 years.