One Mississippi - General Discussion

[formerlyfreedom]

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[maraleia]

I think it's really weird that Amazon hasn't announced this show's air date or Good Girls Revolt. They are taking forever to release their shows and it will hurt them in the end especially with Netflix's roll-out of new and returning shows.

[biakbiak]

Trailer and release date of Sept. 9.

[Tara Ariano]

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A woman dealing with her own health problems returns to her hometown when her mother becomes ill.

[Primetimer]

Years of mounting cred and visibility have finally landed Notaro her own series. Is that a good thing?

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[zxy556575]

Criminy. Just me? I pretty much cried through the whole episode. Mostly my heart breaks for Bill.

[maraleia]

FYI she doesn't leave her job she does it remotely while in Mississippi.

[zxy556575]

I really liked this even though I wouldn't call it a comedy. Tig has a wry demeanor and wit and I appreciated her self-deprecating and ironic story-telling, but overall I thought the show was quite sentimental and melancholy. Tragicomic, I suppose.

Ya never know how much is precisely real or not with these semi-autobiographical shows, but I really hope Tig and someone like Brooke were never a couple in real life. What would either of them have seen in each other?!

If there's a second season I assume it will become more fictionalized since Tig in real life didn't move back home.

Bonkerz lives!

[MarkBlankenship]

FYI she doesn't leave her job she does it remotely while in Mississippi.

D'oh! You're right, of course. I swear I watched the show! We'll get that corrected.

[Silly Angel]

That makes the second episode I cried through. Amazing stuff, and funny as hell. Bonkers 2016!

[gesundheit]

I've only seen the first two episodes but I absolutely love this show. Her stepfather is one of the more fascinating characters on TV.

[bilgistic]

I've zoomed through all but the last episode.* I love Tig, and have just "discovered" her in the last year. I have devoured everything I've found on her. Much of this is semi-autobiographical. She didn't move back home in real life, but a lot of the other stuff is based very closely on actual events--her mother's death, her own cancer and illness, her breakup. Her real-life wife plays the sound engineer at the Mississippi radio station.

*Because I finally fell asleep last night.

Edited September 12, 2016 by bilgistic

[zxy556575]

12 hours ago, gesundheit said:

I've only seen the first two episodes but I absolutely love this show. Her stepfather is one of the more fascinating characters on TV.

He made he cry, and copiously. Not sure if others identify with him the same way, but my heart went out to him big time.

[Megan]

I just finished the audio book for I'm Just A Person and I enjoyed it. I watch all 6 episodes yesterday and it was okay, Tig is not a great actor though. It reminded me of her story about Sarah Silverman giving her a role in a show to be herself and she was terrible.

She was best in her scenes with Kate. I'd watch a second season.

[maraleia]

1 hour ago, Megan said:

I just finished the audio book for I'm Just A Person and I enjoyed it. I watch all 6 episodes yesterday and it was okay, Tig is not a great actor though. It reminded me of her story about Sarah Silverman giving her a role in a show to be herself and she was terrible.

She was best in her scenes with Kate. I'd watch a second season.

FYI Kate is played by Stephanie Allynne who happens to be Tig's wife.

[Megan]

1 hour ago, maraleia said:

FYI Kate is played by Stephanie Allynne who happens to be Tig's wife.

I know, I figured that's why she connected best in her scenes with Kate.

[biakbiak]

33 minutes ago, Megan said:

I know, I figured that's why she connected best in her scenes with Kate.

Also, they met on the movie, In A World..., where she was basically in all of Tig's scenes.

[auntiemel]

Wow. I've only watched the pilot, but it's one of the best things I've seen in a while. I laughed out loud more than once and I cried, too.

[biakbiak]

Should I be worried that my boyfriend said that Bill might be the tv character he relates most to?

[zxy556575]

11 hours ago, biakbiak said:

Should I be worried that my boyfriend said that Bill might be the tv character he relates most to?

You should feel fortunate to have such a stable, rock-solid person in your life. Does your guy also have an adored cat?  :)

Even though Tig is enormously resentful about what she sees as Bill's dismissal of and uncaring attitude towards her past sexual abuse, when he told her about the trust he set up to make sure she was financially taken care of, it was clear how much she means to him and how deeply he cares.

[chocolatine]

On September 14, 2016 at 11:39 PM, biakbiak said:

Should I be worried that my boyfriend said that Bill might be the tv character he relates most to?

I was so sad for Bill and wanted to give the poor man a hug! I understand that Tig and Remy both have their own pain to deal with, but I thought they were jerks to Bill a lot of the time. It's plain to see how much he loved his wife and how big of a loss he has suffered, even if he's not emotionally demonstrative. And then when his cat goes missing, his only comfort during such a difficult time, Tig and Remy were completely callous about it. I also thought it was obvious how guilty he feels about the way he handled Tig's molestation, he just chose his words poorly when he told her to move past it.

 

On September 15, 2016 at 11:33 AM, lordonia said:

Even though Tig is enormously resentful about what she sees as Bill's dismissal of and uncaring attitude towards her past sexual abuse, when he told her about the trust he set up to make sure she was financially taken care of, it was clear how much she means to him and how deeply he cares.

That, plus he sought out a specialist to help Tig with her C. diff and donated his fecal matter to her.

One throwaway scene that I really loved: The two ladies coming to ask Tig to be Mardi Gras queen in her mother's place; one telling Tig to get gussied up and put on some lipstick, Tig starting to protest, the other just giving her a knowing look and a pat on the arm and saying "come as you are".

[zxy556575]

30 minutes ago, chocolatine said:

... donated his fecal matter to her

"You can take it as a pill!"

I'm sure I'm not the only one who immediately looked that shit (sorry) up. I mean, there are lots of human tissues, blood, serum, organs, placental stem cells, etc. transferred from one person/cadaver to another, but fecal transplant just sounds so gross! They seriously need to change the name to "intestinal bacteria transfer" or something.

[bilgistic]

5 hours ago, lordonia said:

"You can take it as a pill!"

I'm sure I'm not the only one who immediately looked that shit (sorry) up. I mean, there are lots of human tissues, blood, serum, organs, placental stem cells, etc. transferred from one person/cadaver to another, but fecal transplant just sounds so gross! They seriously need to change the name to "intestinal bacteria transfer" or something.

Didn't the doctor say her "donor" needed to be a blood relative, or did I make that up? (Totally possible.)

[Portia]

I don't recall what was said on the show, but the site that I just consulted said that most people use a family member donor, but the donor doesn't have to be related. I imagine people feel more comfortable  getting such an intimate "gift" from a loved one . . . ?

The first time I heard of Tig Notaro, it was the C Diff connection that got my attention. I've been a C Diff sufferer. My case was nowhere near as severe as Notaro's, but it was no picnic. I was actively ill for several months, and the medication regimen was expensive and inconvenient. I was prone to relapses for several years before I was eventually declared cured.  Oh, and I have some permanent colon damage.  I love that the show deals so frankly with the horrors and heartaches of a severe GI disease, but I cringe a little every time she's shown going into or out of a restroom.

Edited September 17, 2016 by Portia

[zxy556575]

Sorry you had to go through that @Portia. It's an awful disease. Tig's thinness was upsetting to me, even though she's always been itty bitty and I assume was cured when she filmed this? She never had any extra weight to lose.

I was also a little uncomfortable when she took her shirt off. The breasts are gone but it still seemed invasive for me to be looking at a woman topless.

I came across this picture when I was looking up C. diff stuff -- I assumed it was Tig playing around in a wig but it's her mom.

Edited September 17, 2016 by lordonia

[biakbiak]

11 hours ago, bilgistic said:

Didn't the doctor say her "donor" needed to be a blood relative, or did I make that up? (Totally possible.)

He said because of the nature of the request most people chose a family member or a close friend but definitely  didn't say anything about a blood relation.

Tig's last comedy special which she toured the country with before it filmed included  an entire segment where she performs topless. 

[Corgi-ears]

On 12 September 2016 at 7:08 AM, Megan said:

Tig is not a great actor though.

I thought all the actors were...not very good. Are the actors playing Bill and Remy from theatre backgrounds? (I guess I could actually look it up, but googling is hard.) There was something about their acting that was very...actors' playhouse? And I don't know what it was about the way the actor playing Dominic delivered his lines, but "naturalistic" would not be a word I would use.

Sigh. I don't want to shit on people's acting, especially younger actors, but here we are.

[booklvr]

1 hour ago, Corgi-ears said:

I thought all the actors were...not very good. Are the actors playing Bill and Remy from theatre backgrounds? (I guess I could actually look it up, but googling is hard.) There was something about their acting that was very...actors' playhouse? And I don't know what it was about the way the actor playing Dominic delivered his lines, but "naturalistic" would not be a word I would use.

Sigh. I don't want to shit on people's acting, especially younger actors, but here we are.

That's funny...I had the opposite reaction. I thought the acting was exceptional, with the exception of the actor playing Dominic. (His lines were very stilted and self conscious, I thought) I was especially impressed with Tig and her brother; how natural and "un acty" (no, not a word, don't look it up) they seem. Tig is just such a calming, relaxed presence for me. Bill's role is much more intricate, and beautifully expressed. Anyway, I hope for a long life for this show. Probably my favorite thing I've binged watched, along with Veep and You're the Worst. 

[leighdear]

Personally, I'd rather take a crap capsule that came from somebody I didn't know, that was in spectacular physical health.  No way I could ever again watch that family member eat a meal, knowing where those items will be processed.  "But Aunt June, you know I hate zucchini"! 

I thought it was done pretty well.  My nitpick was the regional accents, or lack of them for the general cast.  I know Tig's mom was born in New Orleans, but the kids were raised on the Mississippi Gulf Coast.  Her mom in flashbacks had some sort of almost faux-Georgia, "I was raised at Tara" type of "Southern-ish" accent.  Nobody sounded the way folks sound in the Pass Christian or the Bay St. Louis area. I live a short way down I-10 from there, so those put-on accents are easy to spot. Tig has obviously eradicated about every trace of accent from her speech, but that didn't bother me. 

The dude with the pickup truck that he parked wherever he wanted was the character that rang truest to me, along with Tig's real dad & his bros.  

I'd watch another set of episodes of her hometown hijinks if they re-tool a bit.

[zxy556575]

42 minutes ago, leighdear said:

I'd watch another set of episodes of her hometown hijinks if they re-tool a bit.

What would need to change for you?

My guess is that a second season would continue to focus on family dynamics, random hometown hijinks, and Tig's developing romance with Kate.

[bilgistic]

Crap capsule!

[chocolatine]

6 hours ago, lordonia said:

My guess is that a second season would continue to focus on family dynamics, random hometown hijinks, and Tig's developing romance with Kate.

I would also like to see Bill moving on in some way, and Remy growing up, finishing the attic remodel, and getting into a real relationship with a woman he likes not just for her looks.

19 hours ago, lordonia said:

I was also a little uncomfortable when she took her shirt off. The breasts are gone but it still seemed invasive for me to be looking at a woman topless.

It was uncomfortable to me because of how vulnerable a woman must feel seeing herself that way for the first time, but I also think it's important to show mastectomy scars in mainstream media to put an end to the notion that women without breasts are somehow "less then". There was an article on the People website a few months ago that has pictures of Tig topless with her twin babies. A lot of the comments are calling the pictures "gross" and "nasty", which is really sad. I hope seeing images like that more often will change some people's attitudes.

Edited September 18, 2016 by chocolatine

[bilgistic]

That's an atrocious attitude. As if going through cancer isn't bad enough, hearing complete bullshit from uneducated morons when a woman has to give up parts of her body in order to SURVIVE is just unbelievable. If testicular cancer was anywhere near as widespread as breast cancer, we'd have taint pictures plastered in public spaces and weekly parades for the cancer survivors who lost their balls.

[wendyg]

I didn't know about the stand-up routine until I read the recap. That made the show snap into place for me as a modern relative of Alice's Restaurant. In the latter, Arlo Guthrie (and others) had to turn a hilarious 18-minute talking blues (if you've never encountered it, YouTube has it in full) about his experience with the draft into a full-length feature film (at a time when films aspired to be about stuff). Like Notaro here, Guthrie in the movie had to remain largely calm while madness swirled around him (the draft, drugs, his father dying of Huntington's Chorea...and in the middle of that a Kafkaesque conviction for littering).

[heatherchandler]

LOVE this show.  It is not exciting, or gripping, but really good.  Why are there only 6 episodes?   I just started episode 5 and I was sad to see that I am almost done.

[tennisgurl]

I knew nothing about Tig going into this (I just saw it on a list of good new TV shows that a critic I like put out), but now I want to look into her stuff more. I really loved this, and I am very saddened by the short season. I mean, I can respect the new, European, Peak TV thing of making shorter seasons, but I want a little more than 6 episodes! 

I was really interested by Tigs fantasy sequences, and now they all come off as so light, but with such dark themes. Its a really interesting look into how Tigs mind works. And I was very touched by her relationship with Bill, and his whole character in general. You can tell how much he loves his family, its just that he has trouble expressing it, and he is clearly dealing with guilt over Tigs molestation, and the issues the kids have had, and her moms death, just he clearly has no idea how to really express that, especially to Tig, who really seemed like she gave me zero slack. Not that she does not have a right to feel the way she does about everything thats happened, but I am glad that, by the end of the show, she was willing to see that Bill does love her, even if he could learn to phrase things better. 

Great show, hope to see more!

[Guest]

I adored this show and very much look forward to the second season. But...QUESTION!

i missed some of the pilot episode and I came into it thinking Tig and her brother weren't raised by Bill and was a little shocked to learn they were. They both treated Bill like he was some guy their mother married when they became adults and not the man who essentially raised them as well. I loved, loved, loved the Bill character though -- it was clear that under the emotional distance he loved the two of the greatly but could not outwardly express it. 

I find Tig to be a gorgeous woman but at times I'd find myself thinking, "wow, she looks exactly like Tom Cruise."

[possibilities]

So far, I like everybody. The scenery is gorgeous, too. And the show is not depending on cynicism or distancing/mockery for its punch. I love it.

[possibilities]

There's so little to say because it's kind of knocking me into silence.

[possibilities]

I love Bill. I didn't think he came off cold. I thought Tig was the one who was cold. She was the same way with her L.A. girlfriend, too.

I couldn't believe how little they cared about the cat disappearing. Isn't it just basic stuff to realize that when someone's pet disappears, they're going to be very upset, and even moreso immediately after the death of their spouse?

And why does Tig blame Bill for the molestation but not seem to blame her mom? Until the revelation of the secret half brother, she acted like her mom was perfect and that their relationship was super-warm and loving and supportive. Meanwhile, Bill was the one who didn't want Tig to be hit, and admonished her mom for doing it.

I get that there were problems in their childhoods. I'm not saying she shouldn't have any bad feelings about stuff. But I think from an outside view, it looks like Bill is making a huge effort, and Tig is unreceptive, and blaming him unfairly while lionizing her mom.

Maybe it's because my own childhood was shit, but I would love to have a parent who made half the effort Bill was making. And I'd be ten times as sympathetic to a stranger I met who'd just lost their spouse and their cat in the same week and was still thinking about others-- he seemed to think that now that their mom was gone, the kids would no longer consider him family-- despite that he raised them-- and it also appears that the mom treated him that way in her will-- and Tig seemed to basically agree (minus suing him for letting her take her time removing her mom's things). Yet he doesn't blame them, he continues to try to take care of them, and to love them and listen to their criticisms and make changes in response to their feelings.

My goodness, Bill's the Mary Sue of the show! But it worked, because while I don't identify with him, I found I liked him and sympathized with him the most.

Now, if they do a 2nd season, they'll portray him as a monster, right? I hope not, but that's how TV usually works.

[Clanstarling]

I knew nothing about Tig Notaro until I saw her on Colbert, and it made me watch this. I'm so glad I did. It is so touching, and so amusing in a quiet way.

[Clanstarling]

Any other show, and Bill would be that annoying person you're supposed to hate. But I love him so much.

[Clanstarling]

On 9/17/2016 at 2:27 PM, chocolatine said:

but I also think it's important to show mastectomy scars in mainstream media to put an end to the notion that women without breasts are somehow "less then".

I first saw a picture of a woman with a mastectomy when I was in my teens. At the time I though, oh, well, that's not so bad. So the idea of a mastectomy never bothered me because I didn't think it made a woman less than anything.

I loved Bill, and while I didn't exactly identify with him entirely, there were bits and pieces that hit home for me.

[chocolatine]

1 hour ago, Clanstarling said:

I first saw a picture of a woman with a mastectomy when I was in my teens. At the time I though, oh, well, that's not so bad. So the idea of a mastectomy never bothered me because I didn't think it made a woman less than anything.

I loved Bill, and while I didn't exactly identify with him entirely, there were bits and pieces that hit home for me.

I never thought they were bad either, but some people apparently do. As I mentioned, a lot of the comments about Tig's photo on the People website were very nasty, so I think it's important to keep showing those images to hopefully change those attitudes.

[chocolatine]

4 hours ago, Clanstarling said:

I knew nothing about Tig Notaro until I saw her on Colbert, and it made me watch this. I'm so glad I did. It is so touching, and so amusing in a quiet way.

If you have Netflix, check out the documentary Tig. It's less amusing than One Mississippi because it's Tig's real life, but it's similarly touching.

[possibilities]

Her stand up is also transcendent.

[Clanstarling]

8 hours ago, chocolatine said:

I never thought they were bad either, but some people apparently do. As I mentioned, a lot of the comments about Tig's photo on the People website were very nasty, so I think it's important to keep showing those images to hopefully change those attitudes.

Agreed.

[Clanstarling]

8 hours ago, chocolatine said:

If you have Netflix, check out the documentary Tig. It's less amusing than One Mississippi because it's Tig's real life, but it's similarly touching.

I watched it yesterday - I almost mentioned it myself. It is very touching, and it was nice to see that a number of her friends, and her wife, were cast in One Mississippi. I

[paramitch]

I loved this, and found it perceptive, gentle, humorous, and terribly moving. I was a little unprepared, since I lost my Mom a few years back and this brought that back for me in a lot of ways.

It's interesting that the film Wild and this, both beautiful and superbly produced works, are essentially about the same thing.

But (while I absolutely loved it), I was able to watch Wild fairly stoically, whereas "One Mississippi" had me sobbing right through the closing credits here. It's absolutely lovely but holy sheesh, it's the kind of lightness that's delicate, deceptive and wise, and that seeps into your soul.

And I too found Bill, the stepfather, very moving. I totally understood that just because he could not speak his feelings, it doesn't mean he doesn't have them. The little moment when he tried to speak haltingly with Tig at the funeral, and then clumsily tried to straighten the pen next to the guestbook, really moved me.

[paramitch]

Huh. It's interesting. I really loved it overall. I basically cried my damn eyes out through the first three episodes, they hit me so powerfully and in so many ways. I will always remember some moments from them.

But what I thought was interesting was that as it went along, I began to like Tig (as a character, at least) less. I find her easy to love but hard to like, if that makes sense. She seemed like one of those people who's always looking for the next lover to jump to, who falls fast, then exits just as quickly. I thought her treatment of Brooke was pretty cruel, so it was hard to be sympathetic when Jessie dumped her, because Tig had already been pretty openly flirting around even while still with Brooke, and that bothered me.

And, as a person with two very much-loved indoor cats (animals that by the way would be utterly helpless if abandoned out of doors), I also found the cat situation clumsily written and handled, and the characters were really pretty cruel to poor Bill about Bonkerz's loss. If you are a pet person, you'll understand, but I would've been incredibly upset (especially on top of the death of a spouse or close family member at the same time). Bill man palpably adored Bonkerz and everyone treated its loss like it was some kooky minor inconvenience -- Tig and her brother don't even actually help to look for the poor old thing. I was livid. Then when Dominic showed up at the end, I thought Bill's reaction was just really odd and not true to life -- this kid's mother PURPOSELY abandoned his beloved old cat because she's an idiotic superstitious fool. I just think he would've been angrier. I would have been (even if not directly at the kid).

Yes, the kitten was sweet. But it doesn't erase what was done. I personally would have never let them near my home again. Or my pets. 

And I was really frustrated when Tig came home in the end and just stood there, with the freaking DOOR OPEN again. Gah.

On 9/9/2016 at 11:48 AM, Lord Donia said:

I really liked this even though I wouldn't call it a comedy. Tig has a wry demeanor and wit and I appreciated her self-deprecating and ironic story-telling, but overall I thought the show was quite sentimental and melancholy. Tragicomic, I suppose.

I really enjoyed the writing and the low-key poignance and sweetness. What I thought was interesting was that I couldn't always connect with Tig as a character. I got why she was angry, but not why she was so angry at Bill. There was no evidence that anything was his fault, and in fact I was angrier at Tig's mother, who had evidently also been molested by her father (although that scene, at the gravesite, was confusingly done) and who therefore should have done more to protect Tig.

On 9/15/2016 at 11:33 AM, Lord Donia said:

Even though Tig is enormously resentful about what she sees as Bill's dismissal of and uncaring attitude towards her past sexual abuse, when he told her about the trust he set up to make sure she was financially taken care of, it was clear how much she means to him and how deeply he cares.

 

On 9/16/2016 at 0:57 PM, chocolatine said:

I was so sad for Bill and wanted to give the poor man a hug! I understand that Tig and Remy both have their own pain to deal with, but I thought they were jerks to Bill a lot of the time. It's plain to see how much he loved his wife and how big of a loss he has suffered, even if he's not emotionally demonstrative. And then when his cat goes missing, his only comfort during such a difficult time, Tig and Remy were completely callous about it. I also thought it was obvious how guilty he feels about the way he handled Tig's molestation, he just chose his words poorly when he told her to move past it.

That, plus he sought out a specialist to help Tig with her C. diff and donated his fecal matter to her.

One throwaway scene that I really loved: The two ladies coming to ask Tig to be Mardi Gras queen in her mother's place; one telling Tig to get gussied up and put on some lipstick, Tig starting to protest, the other just giving her a knowing look and a pat on the arm and saying "come as you are".

Agreed with both of these posts. I loved poor Bill and found him very affecting. I was really saddened by Tig's treatment of him throughout -- he seemed to want so much to help her and she just seemed so oblivious to his efforts. Like his finding her a specialist for her C-diff and proudly telling her he would drive her there. Or his concern over her financial future, etc.

On 9/17/2016 at 8:01 AM, booklvr said:

I was especially impressed with Tig and her brother; how natural and "un acty" (no, not a word, don't look it up) they seem. Tig is just such a calming, relaxed presence for me. Bill's role is much more intricate, and beautifully expressed. Anyway, I hope for a long life for this show. Probably my favorite thing I've binged watched, along with Veep and You're the Worst. 

I liked it very much, and loved many moments. My favorite thing about the story was that Tig's sexuality was never an issue for anyone she met (except maybe that icky woman at the supermarket). There was a sweet and gentle acceptance -- I loved pretty much all the scenes between Tig and her brother.

On 9/17/2016 at 10:32 AM, leighdear said:

I thought it was done pretty well.  My nitpick was the regional accents, or lack of them for the general cast.  I know Tig's mom was born in New Orleans, but the kids were raised on the Mississippi Gulf Coast.  Her mom in flashbacks had some sort of almost faux-Georgia, "I was raised at Tara" type of "Southern-ish" accent.  Nobody sounded the way folks sound in the Pass Christian or the Bay St. Louis area. I live a short way down I-10 from there, so those put-on accents are easy to spot. Tig has obviously eradicated about every trace of accent from her speech, but that didn't bother me. 

Hee, me too! I grew up in NE Florida (occasionally very backwoods), so I'm a stickler for accents -- it always bugs me when people do that horrible "Steel Magnolias" thing, where they just lengthen all their vowels like a Scarlett O'Hara stereotype when Southern accents are so much more varied than that. (And yeah, the actress who played Tig's Mom definitely took that route, unfortunately.) But on the Gulf, even, you get the lazy drawl from around NOLA, but there's also that shorter twangier Mississippi sound and then there's those backwater swamp accents that are almost French. 

I do empathize with Tig -- I worked really hard to get rid of my Southern accent (part of this was helped by living part of the time with my Dad, a Navy officer, with whom we'd be transferred all over the world), succesfully had zero accent into my thirties, then went back home about 12 years ago to help my stepdad and then mom through two successive terminal illnesses, and for whatever reason, this time I haven't quite been able to shake the accent again. So now it still comes out if I'm angry (or drinking).

On 9/17/2016 at 2:27 PM, chocolatine said:

I would also like to see Bill moving on in some way, and Remy growing up, finishing the attic remodel, and getting into a real relationship with a woman he likes not just for her looks.

It was uncomfortable to me because of how vulnerable a woman must feel seeing herself that way for the first time, but I also think it's important to show mastectomy scars in mainstream media to put an end to the notion that women without breasts are somehow "less then". There was an article on the People website a few months ago that has pictures of Tig topless with her twin babies. A lot of the comments are calling the pictures "gross" and "nasty", which is really sad. I hope seeing images like that more often will change some people's attitudes.

While I mostly adored Remy, I was irritated with him for being such a superficial jerk about the nurse who liked him. She was a perfectly attractive woman and he was just so dismissive that it kind of made me enjoy the scene when the rude bimbo dismissed him just as cruelly a little while later. Although the nurse storyline didn't quite work for me -- she played all of her scenes like she was absolutely in love with Remy, then when he made a pass, and the day after, she just seemed to want to convert him. I got why she didn't want him to kiss her at the party out of drunkenness or loneliness, but the conversation the next day was just weird to me.

Meanwhile, I loved that Tig was open enough to show her mastectomy scars, and I found that incredibly moving.

On 9/23/2016 at 10:50 AM, tennisgurl said:

I was really interested by Tigs fantasy sequences, and now they all come off as so light, but with such dark themes. Its a really interesting look into how Tigs mind works. And I was very touched by her relationship with Bill, and his whole character in general. You can tell how much he loves his family, its just that he has trouble expressing it, and he is clearly dealing with guilt over Tigs molestation, and the issues the kids have had, and her moms death, just he clearly has no idea how to really express that, especially to Tig, who really seemed like she gave me zero slack. Not that she does not have a right to feel the way she does about everything thats happened, but I am glad that, by the end of the show, she was willing to see that Bill does love her, even if he could learn to phrase things better. 

I think what frustrated me most about Tig's attitude toward Bill was that he is one of those people who prefers to demonstrate their feelings versus speak them. And Bill, while inarticulate, did so many quietly kind things for her while she was there and she just kept sailing on past them, being subtly pissy, and not really acknowledging him.

On 10/1/2016 at 5:18 PM, possibilities said:

I love Bill. I didn't think he came off cold. I thought Tig was the one who was cold. She was the same way with her L.A. girlfriend, too.

I couldn't believe how little they cared about the cat disappearing. Isn't it just basic stuff to realize that when someone's pet disappears, they're going to be very upset, and even moreso immediately after the death of their spouse?

And why does Tig blame Bill for the molestation but not seem to blame her mom? Until the revelation of the secret half brother, she acted like her mom was perfect and that their relationship was super-warm and loving and supportive. Meanwhile, Bill was the one who didn't want Tig to be hit, and admonished her mom for doing it.

I get that there were problems in their childhoods. I'm not saying she shouldn't have any bad feelings about stuff. But I think from an outside view, it looks like Bill is making a huge effort, and Tig is unreceptive, and blaming him unfairly while lionizing her mom.

Maybe it's because my own childhood was shit, but I would love to have a parent who made half the effort Bill was making. And I'd be ten times as sympathetic to a stranger I met who'd just lost their spouse and their cat in the same week and was still thinking about others-- he seemed to think that now that their mom was gone, the kids would no longer consider him family-- despite that he raised them-- and it also appears that the mom treated him that way in her will-- and Tig seemed to basically agree (minus suing him for letting her take her time removing her mom's things). Yet he doesn't blame them, he continues to try to take care of them, and to love them and listen to their criticisms and make changes in response to their feelings.

I really identified a lot with your post here, as well. I understand that Tig's childhood wasn't perfect by any stretch, and am so sorry that she was molested, but it also appeared to me here that Tig (the character on the show, at least) was determined to blame all the wrong people. She often gave off the impression that her difficult childhood gave her a right to be cruel to Bill, and I just don't understand that.

Especially since her parents didn't collude in her molestation (as some do), they were otherwise loving and supportive, and they at least seemed to be very secure financially, which was never something I experienced, and which I would have definitely envied hugely. So Tig's anger toward Bill just felt very misplaced to me. 

But in the end, I still really enjoyed the show, and was happy to have met these characters. I wish them all well, and hope to see another season eventually. And if that happens, I want Bonkerz to show up, dammit!