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Season 18 Live Feed Discussion: Their Lives are Almost as Boring as Ours!


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I saw my first circular street in Providence, actually, it was after a long drive and I couldn't figure out what the hell was going on, it took me several tries to get off it.  After some sleep I figured it out, but it was a strange experience.  I love RI.

I've only driven in Texas once, and the stop lights were sideways, it was near Cinco de Mayo and i THOUGHT they were decorations, so I'm pretty sure I ran a few red lights in El Paso.  Again, after about 12 hours of driving.  GREAT Mexican lunch though!

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I'll give Nicole this: she has played her HOH perfectly. She is getting out someone that would definitely put her up for eviction and has a nice 3 guy shield to help her to the final 4 at least.

Bitch is annoying and I hate her, but she did her HOH well. Unlike last week with tweedle Dee and tweedle dumb

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6 minutes ago, CheetaraThunder said:

Q; was James/Meg as nauseating last season as Jatalie?

No. James and Meg were actually a refreshing break from all the other nausea going on that season.  He and Meg had a good friendship.  I was surprised to learn that James thought it was more than that because there was nothing even slightly romantic in their banter.  I liked James last season.  His pranks were okay in that dynamic, but trying to go that route again this year just isn't working.  People are tired of his pranks.

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Natalie will regret cuddling with James and not sticking to strictly friends. Meg kept him at arms length in that regard and he acted like a scorned man. 

I saw his pettiness with Clay/Shelli even when I was anticipating their downfall, and later a grudge he had against Becky got the better of him much to Vanessa's satisfaction.

It pains me that like last year, a smarter female is going along with this dumbas against their own better judgement. Jackie resisted but ultimately caved last year much like Natalie is doing. I could've roots for her without reservation if she didn't attach herself to him, worse yet,  take most of her cues from him. Meg I found totally useless as matched him in lack of brain cells. At times she was worse than him; which is a feat.

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It is just so stupid to use BB as a dating app.  Your once in a lifetime chance, ok maybe not just once in a lifetime, and you get in a relationship that is going to destroy you.  I remember James and Meg and she did not give him anything in terms of romance.  She was a friend, a good friend.  I was shocked to hear about them after the show.  I am sure Meg was too.  I think James is worse than Nicole.  Though she is pretty stupid.  Played the exact.same.game.

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4 hours ago, J.D. said:

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Yeah, this is one of the big reasons I think Corey is so gung ho on teaming up with Vic/Paul. Not game - he's needed a break from the 24/7 and needs some Bro Time.

I just hope Nicole doesn't think, "I knew it! He's too good for me," when the inevitable happens. Because he's really not, but that's how she's talked about him and her throughout the season.

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Whether true or not (who cares), sharing this with Victor is probably strategy so he sees that he is willing to work with him and has no problem voting Nicole out if it comes to that.  His sing song voice does not read genuine; it sounds rehearsed. Victor's response tells me he thinks so, too.  He had to have some bro talk, too.  Don't want them to think party boy is soft on a woman, you know. 

2 hours ago, featherhead said:

Every time I see people in the hot tub I think of Paulie peeing in it. Eww.

I am not sure he really did pee.  He was adjusting his shorts in a way that looked like maybe, thus the photo shopped version with yellow added to enhance the suspicion.  Sitting down or going in the pool seems the logical choice if you are compelled.    

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7 minutes ago, Sara2009 said:

I actually thought James and Natalie were cute at first, but I don't have the feeds. I guess James has gotten annoyingly clingy.

I don't really think so, no. I think they are still cute together myself - he looks for reassurance from Nat sometimes but she's always said that after the show is the time to get into all that.

For some reason James has become prime candidate for 'worst human being in the world ever' and therefore deserves no personal happiness, when all he has really done is played a boneheaded game mostly. It certainly doesn't compare to Corey or Victor's doucheyness (mardi gras beads anybody?) or Paul's asshole tendencies ("you're a fucking c***!")

I still see them trying to make a go of it outside, and the best of luck to them, I really hope they make it.

So there.

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14 hours ago, UniqBlue69 said:

Corey is gonna win this game and I'm gonna hate myself all over again for following this stupid show!

Yea this. We should all prepare ourselves. Honestly we should've prepared ourselves on day 1. I actually did pick Corey for my fantasy team because it was obvious he had the makings of yet another bland, douchey male winner.

Seeing Nicole cry really made my day.

I need Thursday to get here already so we can be done with this boring, horrible week and see if maybe something will change (if James/Natalie win HOH) or it'll be boring again (if anyone else wins HOH).

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6 minutes ago, AbsoluteShower said:

I don't really think so, no. I think they are still cute together myself - he looks for reassurance from Nat sometimes but she's always said that after the show is the time to get into all that.

For some reason James has become prime candidate for 'worst human being in the world ever' and therefore deserves no personal happiness, when all he has really done is played a boneheaded game mostly. It certainly doesn't compare to Corey or Victor's doucheyness (mardi gras beads anybody?) or Paul's asshole tendencies ("you're a fucking c***!")

I still see them trying to make a go of it outside, and the best of luck to them, I really hope they make it.

So there.

Yeah, I think James seems like a fine guy IRL, although I'm sure we wouldn't agree on a lot of things. For me, a lot of it has less to do with him and more to do with the general feedster, "She's just playing him! Evil woman alert!" reaction. It seems to be either two extremes - she's the worst or he's the worst. Plus, some viewers didn't like how he handled the Meg situation after the show - but we really have no idea what happened between them personally, although it's fun to guess.

I hate, hate, hate him as a player, though - this weird Big Brother idiot savant. He's shown he's clueless this season (and owes Natalie a lot more credit for getting him out from Paulie's thumb) and is *still* clueless about last season. His confidence that "this isn't my first rodeo" gives him superior gaming abilities is going to be his and Natalie's downfall.

As for Vic/Corey/Paul - it pisses me off that they get a pass for their terrible behavior when Michelle/Natalie get picked apart for every. Single. Thing. Feedsters even make fun of their eating habits and how they talk about their bodies, when clearly they both have issues - and how could they not, considering the terrible things people say? Oh, and they have no game even though they literally flipped the whole season on its head. I haven't forgotten the Victor's beads, Paul's general assholery, or Corey being the typical Jock Jerk. But Vic is the best player because he's managed to get himself evicted (twice!), Paul is just an asshole for strategy (um, no), and Corey's working with them now, so we love him!

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23 minutes ago, AbsoluteShower said:

I don't really think so, no. I think they are still cute together myself - he looks for reassurance from Nat sometimes but she's always said that after the show is the time to get into all that.

I don't think so either.  Some people also think Natalie is pushing him away. Because she has her times when she wants to be alone and they sleep in separate beds. I also don't see it that way either.  I see her as maybe a person that doesn't need to be with someone 24/7 and not be able to get away is maybe getting to her and she just needs her own personal space/bubble.

the other night she was in her moods where she told james she just wanted to be alone and not mingle with people. He asked if he should go hang out with everyone else and give her space.  She said no.  

If Victor, Paul, James and Natalie all made it to F4 it would probably be my favorite season of all time in terms of who made it to the end. But I know Corey or Nicole will sneak in there and ruin it for me and i havent had anyone to root for at the end for a long time!!!

i may have rooted for Derek but not because i wanted him at the end, but because he completely hosed everyone and it was genius. 

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2 minutes ago, mooses said:

As for Vic/Corey/Paul - it pisses me off that they get a pass for their terrible behavior when Michelle/Natalie get picked apart for every. Single. Thing. Feedsters even make fun of their eating habits and how they talk about their bodies, when clearly they both have issues - and how could they not, considering the terrible things people say? Oh, and they have no game even though they literally flipped the whole season on its head. I haven't forgotten the Victor's beads, Paul's general assholery, or Corey being the typical Jock Jerk. But Vic is the best player because he's managed to get himself evicted (twice!), Paul is just an asshole for strategy (um, no), and Corey's working with them now, so we love him!

You know... I really kinda hate that Paul and Victor come off at loveable guys because they are truly assholes.  But yet I cant help but like Paul (don't care for Victor cause i find him annoying)

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2 minutes ago, mooses said:

As for Vic/Corey/Paul - it pisses me off that they get a pass for their terrible behavior when Michelle/Natalie get picked apart for every. Single. Thing. Feedsters even make fun of their eating habits and how they talk about their bodies, when clearly they both have issues - and how could they not, considering the terrible things people say? Oh, and they have no game even though they literally flipped the whole season on its head. I haven't forgotten the Victor's beads, Paul's general assholery, or Corey being the typical Jock Jerk. But Vic is the best player because he's managed to get himself evicted (twice!), Paul is just an asshole for strategy (um, no), and Corey's working with them now, so we love him!

Fantastic post. But honestly basically all BB fans (including myself) are fickle as hell, so I don't know why this surprises me. And every single season women get shit on while men get praised for doing the same damn thing, so again, I have no idea why I'm surprised.

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9 minutes ago, gunderda said:

You know... I really kinda hate that Paul and Victor come off at loveable guys because they are truly assholes.  But yet I cant help but like Paul (don't care for Victor cause i find him annoying)

Yeah, agree. I mean, I'm not even saying I dislike them, but it's not an even playing field in terms of how they're portrayed or criticized versus other HGs. I do think Paul deserves to win, and I wouldn't be upset about it. He seems like a cool guy when he's sincere, and I think he's pretty funny to boot. Although his poor friends would have to hear five hour long monologues about how he got there! 

9 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Fantastic post. But honestly basically all BB fans (including myself) are fickle as hell, so I don't know why this surprises me. And every single season women get shit on while men get praised for doing the same damn thing, so again, I have no idea why I'm surprised.

Heh. Me too! That's why I like it here - we all love to discuss these people and snark on the HGs, and many of us have strong opinions - but it rarely turns ugly. It's hard not to blur the lines between these HGs as players and actual humans, but, to me, this forum at least tries to be rational. I don't always succeed at that, but this helps me from getting lost in the irrational hate that plagues a lot of other Big Brother discussion. And obviously gives me a place to bitch about it! 

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32 minutes ago, AbsoluteShower said:

I don't really think so, no. I think they are still cute together myself - he looks for reassurance from Nat sometimes but she's always said that after the show is the time to get into all that.

For some reason James has become prime candidate for 'worst human being in the world ever' and therefore deserves no personal happiness, when all he has really done is played a boneheaded game mostly. It certainly doesn't compare to Corey or Victor's doucheyness (mardi gras beads anybody?) or Paul's asshole tendencies ("you're a fucking c***!")

I still see them trying to make a go of it outside, and the best of luck to them, I really hope they make it.

So there.

I still find James/Natalie cute, and don't hate James. I still root for these two to try something outside of the house, although I ultimately think they'll end up being great friends.

I do, however, think he's a weak game player. That's where my annoyance with him comes from. It's a shame that Natalie seems to have lost some of her edge (not all, but some) just to listen to James, because she's been close to catching on to the new alliance but James is insistent on them all being an alliance still, so Natalie's been echoing the same thoughts as well. James is a good person, although maybe a little idealistic at times, but not a great game player. I just want him to stop throwing competitions! I called it last week before Thursday's HOH that I worry about James throwing the competition, and look at what he does! I get why, because nobody would have seen Nicorey turning immediately on James/Natalie, but he still threw it. 

14 minutes ago, mooses said:

As for Vic/Corey/Paul - it pisses me off that they get a pass for their terrible behavior when Michelle/Natalie get picked apart for every. Single. Thing. Feedsters even make fun of their eating habits and how they talk about their bodies, when clearly they both have issues - and how could they not, considering the terrible things people say? Oh, and they have no game even though they literally flipped the whole season on its head. I haven't forgotten the Victor's beads, Paul's general assholery, or Corey being the typical Jock Jerk. But Vic is the best player because he's managed to get himself evicted (twice!), Paul is just an asshole for strategy (um, no), and Corey's working with them now, so we love him!

I agree. I will never like Corey, and I don't love Paul or Victor. They need to be picked apart a lot more than they are. However, Paul is a great game player so that's the credit I give him. If he gets to F2, he should win. But Paul's the type of guy who just doesn't do well in a winning position. He turns into an incredibly cocky jackass. Victor's on better terms with me, but he could be redeemed, like Michelle, if he just apologized for his own douchey behaviour. 

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35 minutes ago, AbsoluteShower said:

I don't really think so, no. I think they are still cute together myself - he looks for reassurance from Nat sometimes but she's always said that after the show is the time to get into all that.

For some reason James has become prime candidate for 'worst human being in the world ever' and therefore deserves no personal happiness, when all he has really done is played a boneheaded game mostly. It certainly doesn't compare to Corey or Victor's doucheyness (mardi gras beads anybody?) or Paul's asshole tendencies ("you're a fucking c***!")

I still see them trying to make a go of it outside, and the best of luck to them, I really hope they make it.

So there.

I hate James, but he's certainly not the "worst human being in the world ever." He's not even the worst human being in the BB18 cast, not even top three. Still, I don't like him, both because I find him annoying and because I think he's kind of a jerk. I think Natalie can do much, much better for a number of reasons. He's immature, insecure, and has some problematic attitudes about women, to name just a few. I think he would be very jealous if Nat became his "girlfriend" and would be stalking her on social media and grilling her about every picture with a guy in it. I think he would spend his child support money to make surprise trips to NJ, then get mad if Nat weren't grateful and happy enough or had plans.  I think it's more likely he'll end up being good friends with Paulie than with Nat. If he thinks Meg led him on all summer last year, I'm sure he feels entitled to quite a bit from Natalie when the show's over.

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James is definitely at the bottom of the list for worst BB guy, he is just so annoying and bad at this game.

But, honestly all the HG's left are not Stan worthy on a personal level. They are all problematic and annoying as hell. Game wise: the only HG I think should win is Paul/Vic, for game reasons. But that's it.

James deserves to get evicted for throwing all the competitions, but the people left would be smart to just get rid of Meech/Nat and keep James for final 2 bait.

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3 hours ago, featherhead said:

Every time I see people in the hot tub I think of Paulie peeing in it. Eww.

Last night on the feeds I noticed that the bottom of Corey's feet were almost BLACK they were so dirty.  Then Victor and Nicole stuck their feet in there too and they were dirty but not as bad as Corey's.  I was just totally grossed out thinking about that and the peeing and I am hoping that whomever (whoever?) adds the chemicals to the pool and hot tub is on top of things!!!  That must mean the floor inside the house is nasty.  I know Victor always cleans in the kitchen but does anyone ever mop????

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47 minutes ago, mooses said:

Yeah, agree. I mean, I'm not even saying I dislike them, but it's not an even playing field in terms of how they're portrayed or criticized versus other HGs. I do think Paul deserves to win, and I wouldn't be upset about it. He seems like a cool guy when he's sincere, and I think he's pretty funny to boot. Although his poor friends would have to hear five hour long monologues about how he got there! 

Heh. Me too! That's why I like it here - we all love to discuss these people and snark on the HGs, and many of us have strong opinions - but it rarely turns ugly. It's hard not to blur the lines between these HGs as players and actual humans, but, to me, this forum at least tries to be rational. I don't always succeed at that, but this helps me from getting lost in the irrational hate that plagues a lot of other Big Brother discussion. And obviously gives me a place to bitch about it! 

Good post, I agree.   I have been all over the place in my opinions of the HGs; it goes week to week for me.   I like Paul for the win too  (this week), and can easily overlook his flaws because his game play is pretty solid.  Others cannot.  I don't care that Victor has been eliminated twice, many do.  And so it goes.  Good board.   I am not a Natalie fan (don't hate her) so I don't talk about that because there is huge support for her here.  You do have to read the room sometimes!  LOL  

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19 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

Victor and James are just being so gross. Victor said James was cracking him up when during never have I ever James drank for the 'slept with someone bigger than you' question. Victor was like it's not too bad with James because he's small but for him it'd be worse. Victor showing his piece of shit side again. And then James was saying he did it because he 'felt bad since she travelled for 2 hours.'

Maybe this explains Michelle's sudden love of Victor (I don't have the feeds, but I can't believe she forgave him for the beeds, to the point that she cried nominating him): they can fat-shame together if they get to the final 2! Now, I'm so pissed that my fat-fingers sent him all 20 of my allotted votes on Friday.

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1 hour ago, gunderda said:

i may have rooted for Derek but not because i wanted him at the end, but because he completely hosed everyone and it was genius. 

I agree!

I think James is in the game more for a date than for the game.  I think he would make a good boyfriend.  He needs to take his charm to the street.

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5 minutes ago, nkotb said:

Maybe this explains Michelle's sudden love of Victor (I don't have the feeds, but I can't believe she forgave him for the beeds, to the point that she cried nominating him): they can fat-shame together if they get to the final 2! Now, I'm so pissed that my fat-fingers sent him all 20 of my allotted votes on Friday.

Michele has always liked Victor.  They all socialize well when they are hanging out; they see the good in each other and have fun.  The back talk happens when they are holed up with their allies and discussing strategy, nominations and future game.  Most HGs report being able to drop the game when the show wraps and friendships are born. 

I voted for Victor, too.  We don't have a big say anyway.  

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I think except for James most of the people involved in showmance this season are very aware of the fact that what happens inside the house might just stay inside the outside. All of then have given themselves an out in the relationships. But I still feel bad for Nicole simply because while the others have accepted the reality that their relationship might end outside of house because it will be different, Nicole on the other hand totally seems to put the whole possible break-up with Corey on the fact t that he's "too good for her". I don't like Nicole but I hate that she thinks this way and believe it. 

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The after parties and post BB social media is what I look forward to the most. That's where all the juicy drama come out.

Talking friendships post BB: I truly think the ones sticking are Paul/Victor, Da'vonne/Z ( maybe add Bridgette to that group since they have become extremely close & bonded in jury), and probably Paulie/Paul. Nicole/Corey and James/Nat have disaster written over it.

At least 4/6 people involved in the showmances have realistic expectations leaving the show. Paulie/Z are doing a wait and see approach ( not planning anything, though they have an added advantage in talking it out in jury), Natalie may have feelings for James, but I can see her using him for game ( I have no problem with that. It got her to final 7 right now). Corey/Nicole are icky version of Drew/Diane, but unlike Nicole, I had a lot of sympathy for Diane. She deserved to win that season ( her and Nakomis should have been the final 2), but she got blindsided. 

I can see Meech kind of ending up like a less crazy BB11 Michelle, sadly. Her family drama, her eclectic behavior, plus her reading the comments posted about her= breakdown. As much as she annoys me, I hope she gets some help and works her family shit out. No one shows have to deal with that shit.

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Joker's recap of one interaction last night:

Mon 10:52PM BBT:  

BB: Please clean the mirror above the stove. Paul: James looks at me, don't f*n look @ ME, G. James: Don't try to skip out on this cuz the awning broke your nose this time! 
*Victor starts dying laughing* Natalie laughing too. 
James: It has NOTHING to do with you pickin up a d*** rag. 

Paul (shaking his head and smiling): Nope, where's the rag... 
James: Every time something happened, "Man, that awning man, well on my nose, I'm exempt." 
Paul clean the mirror, gets "wooo"s from the crowd. 
Nicole: Paul washing the window, James doing the dishes, I think I might faint. 
Victor: The glass shatters on his face... *laughs* 
Natalie claps: Woooo James & Paul, standing ovation, proud of you guys. 
Paul wiping mirror & smiling: F*n d***heads. 
James: BB tell him to get the mirror above the bathroom sink too. 
Paul: Nope.. that's a buncha bullsh** 
BB: Please clean the mirror above the sink. 
*Laughter* 

Paul: Why don't we just clean ALL the f*n mirrors! 
Nicole/Natalie laughing so hard about the "awning" incident Paul had. When was that anyway? James: Like Day one. *laughter*

Is he the greatest BB player ever?  Oh hell no. But when it comes to comic relief, James is still my boy.  :D

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2 hours ago, texastootsie said:

 I know Victor always cleans in the kitchen but does anyone ever mop????

BB only gives them one of those stupid swiffer jet mop things.  Which is essentially pointless.  Natalie tried to use it a few time in the beginning but she just got a spray bottle of cleaner to spray the floors and then used the swiffer to "clean" it.   i'm pretty sure they just gave up. 

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I don't personally know how James acted towards Meg after their season ended, but from what I'm reading here -- Natalie needs to get on the nearest plane and fly far away from James as soon as the show is over.   That dude's going to either (a) stalk her or (b) slander her on every social media he can get his hands on.  If James is already trying to tell Natalie how she should dress, it can only get worse from there. 

Looking at things realistically:  Natalie is a pretty ex-cheerleader -- and from New York no less.  (Read:  Excitement.  Night life.  Parties.  Theater....).  James is a bland, average looking dumpy guy who has zero personality, lackluster finances and wears the very same mismatched clothes for days.  There's no chance on earth Natalie is interested in him for anything other than a long distance friend. 

I realize women are not as fixated on physical appearance as men are.  (Okay, make that men in their 20's so that Nashville doesn't scold me--- LOL).  Still, a man has to have SOMETHING going for him in order to catch Natalie's romantic interest. James is almost as boring as Corey, but at least Corey is mediocre good looking, and he comes from money so at least he wouldn't try to make his date pay for her own dinner like that time James admitted to doing.  Still, like Corey, James is about as interesting as a box of rocks.  Natalie's not going to get any engaging conversation out of him.  Sure, he's funny.  But you can't build a solid relationship on practical jokes.  Plus, James has thrown almost every competition.  Natalie is a good strategist.  I can't think of anything game-wise she would disrespect more than a member of her own alliance who's only aspired to being weak. 

Those of you who truly believe there's a romantic chance for these two people PLEASE tell me what you think Natalie could possibly see in James.  And please don't say, "He's nice."  A lot of men are nice.  Nice guys are everywhere.   

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1 hour ago, CheetaraThunder said:

At this point, my picks for AFP are Da'vonne, Rafe the giraffe, and Baldwin the Eagle lol.

Mine are Rafe, Baldwin, and Julie Chen, personally. 

I mean, her face appears on the TV screen on Thursdays. Does that count as a HG? No? Then I'll go with Secret Service Paul. He was great. Can we get him back for the rest of the summer? 

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16 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

Mine are Rafe, Baldwin, and Julie Chen, personally. 

I mean, her face appears on the TV screen on Thursdays. Does that count as a HG? No? Then I'll go with Secret Service Paul. He was great. Can we get him back for the rest of the summer? 

I mean, Rafe was pretty douchey when he ate Bridgette's Birthday cake...

I'll vote for Tiffany's tear stained gorilla.

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I know Nicole has said she doesn't want to blindside, but I'm hoping they wait long enough to tell James that he sits Paul down for one of his patented "you're being evicted" talks.  Paul's reaction should be hilarious.

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17 minutes ago, mooses said:

Hysterical!  Victor is very funny.  This morning he did a wildlife show for the feedsters.  In a British accent, talking softly like he was in the wild and did not want to disturb the animals as he observed them.  An example. Oh there is the one they call Paul in the watering hole with his enemy (James) and tense.  He bites his nails when he is uncomfortable.  He can be very loud when agitated but he is remaining calm.  He went through everyone and it was hysterical.  Outside of the UK bedroom he talked about the Meech.  It sleeps 17 hours a day..... Oh, there is the tall one....and on an on.   I cannot do it justice.  He nailed all of their personalities.  

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Natalie to James: If me and you were on the block, I would definitely sacrifice myself for you. #BB18

God damn it Natalie, just shut up. I truly believe Nat/James just came on for AFP. I want to like and root for Natalie. If she wasn't clinging to James, bashing Z at every chance, I would stab for her to burn the house down and win the game....but shit like that. I hope she is joking.

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Normally I could care less about what happens to these folks after they leave the house but I would be happy to hear that Vic gets noticed for some acting work like he wants as he is truly is very funny.   I'm still laughing at this eagle puppet show and today's BB wildlife show was very, very, very clever, especially the Meech part.

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Natalie's in a bad mood and feeling defeated. She complains to James that she feels like she was shit on all summer, has been getting called a fake bitch and doesn't feel like she can be herself, and is worried the same will happen to her when she gets out of the House.

James: "Not to toot my own horn, but you're with me. And I know CBS wouldn't do that to you if you're with me." Fish

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Victor definitely has the look and talent to get into acting.

i get that the house/game can be draining as hell, and being away from everyone sucks. But just stop Natalie. I don't condone the others talking shut about Nat and her body, but she has been doing the same thing with Z, so there are no winners or heroes here. Take a nap girl. Take time for yourself.

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Vic gets noticed for some acting work l

The Bold And The Beautiful usually has a small group of the most recent HGs on their Halloween show. Hopefully Victor will be one of them this year and the show will give him more than one line. The HGs usually come across as self-conscious and/or starstruck during their B&B appearance but I'm thinking Victor would be a natural.

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12 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

The Bold And The Beautiful usually has a small group of the most recent HGs on their Halloween show. Hopefully Victor will be one of them this year and the show will give him more than one line. The HGs usually come across as self-conscious and/or starstruck during their B&B appearance but I'm thinking Victor would be a natural.

I agree.  He's done a little bit of acting already.  He was in that music video I posted a week or two ago.  He was in a commercial, but I can't remember the product.  And he played a prison guard in the movie about Natalie Holloway's disappearance.   

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I think it would be really hard to be away from families or friends or partners that boost you up every day and are more invested in your daily life than a houseful of strangers would be.  On the other hand, you know if you sign up for BB that it can get ugly and messy and lonely and fun and weird and all kinds of things after only a very short time.  I'm kinda thinking Natalie needs to put her big girl panties on and suck it up.  I don't know of anyone who doesn't eventually get tired of - or lose patience with - a person who constantly whines or seeks affirmation or poops around a lot.  It can get to be a real drag.  So maybe Natalie needs to "cheer" herself up (pun intended) and get to noticing her precarious situation in the house. 

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