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[debraran]

48 minutes ago, qtpye said:

My speculation is that they will pull a Titanic. Rebecca will die and then we will see young (or younger) Rebecca walking into the arms of a waiting Jack.

I hope they do not do this but it is in line with the tearjerker type of thing the show does well.

I hope not because she was married to Miguel a long time. It would seem weird if he is dead too.

[PRgal]

On 2/4/2022 at 3:18 AM, chocolatine said:

Since it was a death bed vigil, it was likely short notice, so not enough time (or energy) to shop and cook for 15 people. Nothing wrong with picking up some pizzas and salads in that kind of situation.

And I guess the cabin is so remote that no one delivers out there.  

[Kirkydee]

On 2/4/2022 at 3:18 AM, chocolatine said:

Since it was a death bed vigil, it was likely short notice, so not enough time (or energy) to shop and cook for 15 people. Nothing wrong with picking up some pizzas and salads in that kind of situation.

But even Toby is there,  and he's been West Coast his whole life.  If Randall can pick up Tess in Jersey and get there it couldn't have been TOO short  notice

[chocolatine]

1 hour ago, Kirkydee said:

But even Toby is there,  and he's been West Coast his whole life.  If Randall can pick up Tess in Jersey and get there it couldn't have been TOO short  notice

I mean short as in a day or two, rather than several days or a week. The first thing on Kevin's mind would have been "call everyone who would want to say goodbye and take care of necessary arrangements" and not "I'd better go grocery shopping and prep food for 15 people."

[Kirkydee]

53 minutes ago, chocolatine said:

I mean short as in a day or two, rather than several days or a week. The first thing on Kevin's mind would have been "call everyone who would want to say goodbye and take care of necessary arrangements" and not "I'd better go grocery shopping and prep food for 15 people."

Fair enough, but I'm sure arrangements are already taken care of in advance.  No surprise death and Kevin can easily pay for everything.  I'll bet when Rebecca was lucid she insisted I's dotted and T's crossed for peace of mind

The Kevin going out for food last minute is IMO (As was said upthread) a sign of no wife/live in SO.  She would've said " You take care of your family and I'll take care of the house"

[Ohiopirate02]

43 minutes ago, Kirkydee said:

Fair enough, but I'm sure arrangements are already taken care of in advance.  No surprise death and Kevin can easily pay for everything.  I'll bet when Rebecca was lucid she insisted I's dotted and T's crossed for peace of mind

The Kevin going out for food last minute is IMO (As was said upthread) a sign of no wife/live in SO.  She would've said " You take care of your family and I'll take care of the house"

Kevin is wearing a wedding ring in the flashforward.  Unless the show foolishly decides to copy How I Met Your Mother, Kevin has a wife in those scenes.   

[himela]

I think that Kevin will not end up with Madisson or Sophie. I think what Cassidy told him made him realize he can't so desperately search for a wife just for the sake of having a wife. I think Zoe is the kind of person who is suitable for Kevin. His whole life he is trying to have a family like his parents had but I think he will soon come to the realization that he doesn't have to be just like his parents. I think what Kevin wants from a woman is some mystery, some "hard to get" attitude and something that will keep him intrigued and Sophie and Madisson are not like that. So I predict he ends up with Zoe or some other woman who is like that.

[Ohiopirate02]

14 minutes ago, himela said:

I think that Kevin will not end up with Madisson or Sophie. I think what Cassidy told him made him realize he can't so desperately search for a wife just for the sake of having a wife. I think Zoe is the kind of person who is suitable for Kevin. His whole life he is trying to have a family like his parents had but I think he will soon come to the realization that he doesn't have to be just like his parents. I think what Kevin wants from a woman is some mystery, some "hard to get" attitude and something that will keep him intrigued and Sophie and Madisson are not like that. So I predict he ends up with Zoe or some other woman who is like that.

I would hate to see Kevin end up with Zoe.  She doesn't want kids full stop.  I hate when shows undo that decision with their female characters.  Again, How I Met Your Mother is not the show to emulate.

[himela]

10 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

I would hate to see Kevin end up with Zoe.  She doesn't want kids full stop.  I hate when shows undo that decision with their female characters.  Again, How I Met Your Mother is not the show to emulate.

But she won't have kids of her own. Maybe she gets to know Kevin's kids and love them and help raise them. People do change. :P

[debraran]

59 minutes ago, himela said:

But she won't have kids of her own. Maybe she gets to know Kevin's kids and love them and help raise them. People do change. :P

I hope not. It might happen but they always want to change a character who feels that way . A woman is allowed to not want children, her own or someone else’s. Seen the real outcome of stepmoms like that.

[himela]

5 minutes ago, debraran said:

I hope not. It might happen but they always want to change a character who feels that way . A woman is allowed to not want children, her own or someone else’s. Seen the real outcome of stepmoms like that.

Yes I see what you are saying but don't you think that the type of Zoe is more of Kevin's type? (leaving kids aside)

[CrystalBlue]

Beth warned Kevin against her own cousin, Zoe, for a reason.  Since I'm Team Beth I will suggest she was right back then (as we all saw) and knows what she's talking about.  I don't want Zoe back.  She is not going to suddenly bond with twins and want to play stepmother.  She can find someone more suitable to her needs and lifestyle.

[debraran]

I felt that the women Kevin met on his "find himself episodes" had purpose then and not so much later. It might change nd writers have to regroup, but it seemed like they were not given  contracts with such big gaps.

The only thing I read years ago when Kevin did Vietnam was that Alex in interview said she was out of scripts while Kevin did his thing to find Nicky and they wanted her on more later. She wanted to do other things while he filmed so they loosened her contract and let her. Did they think " law and order episode/Chicago Med?) Well V River wanted her to star and she'd never have the pay or role in TIU I would think.. So they said she could and they'd work with it. Now, I see 2 endings, Madison being Dan's wife and his choice to fill in blanks or he'll still use Sophie but differently. Time will tell. If they pull a fast one, that will be that.

Justin who used to say too much just said Madison will be happy no matter what happens and he hopes if not what some wanted, that will be enough.

Edited February 10, 2022 by debraran

[GeorgiaRai]

1.  I'm not sure the big scene in the flash forward is meant to be the death of Rebecca.  As a couple others have mentioned, you can't really have family members spend a couple days traveling, running errands, etc. then finally gather together & count on the elderly person to die on queue.  It'd be different if Rebecca was on life support, but she doesn't even seem completely unresponsive.   

2. I've never understood why Toby's in the flash forward, since they'd have been divorced several years by then.  I know some families do stay close with exes, but it feels odd to me that he's there for this private, momentous family vigil/event.  It does make sense, though, if, as some suspect, Kate has passed away. In that case, Toby would be the Pearsons' only connection to Jack & Haley, bringing them super close.  He probably remarried (as Kate did), and if Kate is deceased, it would be clear to the Pearsons that "they're on the way" meant his wife & the kids.  I'm Kate-death opposed, so I hope this is completely wrong, but it makes more sense to me than Toby hanging with the family, including his ex- and now remarried-wife, at the cabin for a couple days while Rebecca fades away.

(Bizarre theories are allowed here, right?! lol)

[chocolatine]

4 hours ago, CrystalBlue said:

Beth warned Kevin against her own cousin, Zoe, for a reason.  Since I'm Team Beth I will suggest she was right back then (as we all saw) and knows what she's talking about.  I don't want Zoe back.  She is not going to suddenly bond with twins and want to play stepmother.  She can find someone more suitable to her needs and lifestyle.

That, plus Zoe has always acted a little condescending/intellectually superior towards Kevin. That's not a good foundation for a loving and respectful marriage, and I wouldn't want that for Kevin.

Edited February 11, 2022 by chocolatine

[Blakeston]

On 2/10/2022 at 4:38 PM, CrystalBlue said:

Beth warned Kevin against her own cousin, Zoe, for a reason.  Since I'm Team Beth I will suggest she was right back then (as we all saw) and knows what she's talking about. 

Speaking of Zoe - what was with Randall saying that Zoe was his cousin?

(For those wondering, I'm talking about the episode where Deja and Malik announce their plans to move in together. Randall is talking to Kevin on the phone, and describing all of the women Kevin has been with, and Randall describes Zoe as "my African-American cousin.")

Did the writers forget that she was Beth's cousin? That would mean they forgot that Randall didn't know any of his biological family members until a few years ago.

On 2/10/2022 at 8:05 PM, GeorgiaRai said:

I've never understood why Toby's in the flash forward, since they'd have been divorced several years by then.  I know some families do stay close with exes, but it feels odd to me that he's there for this private, momentous family vigil/event.

Maybe Rebecca invited Toby because she wants him and Kate to spend time together, in the hopes that they'll get back together?

[himela]

40 minutes ago, Blakeston said:

Did the writers forget that she was Beth's cousin?

Maybe his wife's cousin is considered his cousin as well?

[PRgal]

On 2/10/2022 at 8:05 PM, GeorgiaRai said:

1.  I'm not sure the big scene in the flash forward is meant to be the death of Rebecca.  As a couple others have mentioned, you can't really have family members spend a couple days traveling, running errands, etc. then finally gather together & count on the elderly person to die on queue.  It'd be different if Rebecca was on life support, but she doesn't even seem completely unresponsive.   

2. I've never understood why Toby's in the flash forward, since they'd have been divorced several years by then.  I know some families do stay close with exes, but it feels odd to me that he's there for this private, momentous family vigil/event.  It does make sense, though, if, as some suspect, Kate has passed away. In that case, Toby would be the Pearsons' only connection to Jack & Haley, bringing them super close.  He probably remarried (as Kate did), and if Kate is deceased, it would be clear to the Pearsons that "they're on the way" meant his wife & the kids.  I'm Kate-death opposed, so I hope this is completely wrong, but it makes more sense to me than Toby hanging with the family, including his ex- and now remarried-wife, at the cabin for a couple days while Rebecca fades away.

(Bizarre theories are allowed here, right?! lol)

But is it possible that it's Philip and the kids?  

[CrystalBlue]

6 hours ago, Blakeston said:

Speaking of Zoe - what was with Randall saying that Zoe was his cousin?

(For those wondering, I'm talking about the episode where Deja and Malik announce their plans to move in together. Randall is talking to Kevin on the phone, and describing all of the women Kevin has been with, and Randall describes Zoe as "my African-American cousin.")

Did the writers forget that she was Beth's cousin? That would mean they forgot that Randall didn't know any of his biological family members until a few years ago.

Maybe Rebecca invited Toby because she wants him and Kate to spend time together, in the hopes that they'll get back together?

Randall counts Zoe as a married-in cousin, not a blood cousin.  Family is family whether blood related, married in, or adopted.

[GeorgiaRai]

2 hours ago, PRgal said:

But is it possible that it's Philip and the kids?  

Yeah, it could be.  It's just odd to me that, if Phillip has been a part of the family for several years, Rebecca is asking for Toby.  I can see him going to a funeral, but this family event (whatever it is) seems like it'd be immediate family.  I don't understand him still being that close if Kate & Phillip are alive and happy.  

Then again, I've read that longer term memories can last longer than short-term, so maybe Rebecca just doesn't remember Kate & Toby got divorced.  That could explain why he arrived alone, and why he seemed so distraught prior to.

[CrystalBlue]

Toby is still the father of the Katoby Damon kids.  If they're at Rebecca's bedside vigil, maybe they would want their Dad there too.  Rebecca's long-term/short-term memory is no doubt at issue as well as GeorgiaRai and maybe others have pointed out.

[chitowngirl]

Have they mentioned if Kate was there or coming? Could it be her death? I honestly don’t remember her status in the flash forward.

[chocolatine]

13 minutes ago, chitowngirl said:

Have they mentioned if Kate was there or coming? Could it be her death? I honestly don’t remember her status in the flash forward.

Kate is not referred to by name in the flash-forward.

[PRgal]

34 minutes ago, chitowngirl said:

Have they mentioned if Kate was there or coming? Could it be her death? I honestly don’t remember her status in the flash forward.

Only as the “they” Toby was referring to after he spoke with Jack.  If she’s part of the “they” at all.  

[Ohiopirate02]

26 minutes ago, PRgal said:

Only as the “they” Toby was referring to after he spoke with Jack.  If she’s part of the “they” at all.  

I can't see how Kate is not part of "they."  Jack is a blind 10 year old.  Someone is driving him to Kevin's house.  And if Kate was deceased in 2030, Jack (and Hailey) would be with Toby not in a car with a yet to be revealed adult.  At this point, the only adults not accounted for are Kate, Miguel, and Kevin's spouse.  

I honestly think the reason Toby is there is to honor the actor.  Chris has been on the show since episode one just like Chrissy, Sterling, Justin, Milo, Mandy, and Susan.  It does make some sense the show will have him in the final episode.  Also why Kate is alive.  

[Blakeston]

4 hours ago, CrystalBlue said:

Randall counts Zoe as a married-in cousin, not a blood cousin.  Family is family whether blood related, married in, or adopted.

No one's saying that she isn't family to Randall.

I consider my husband's cousin Daniel to be a member of my family. But if I introduced him to someone as "my cousin Daniel," I think he'd give me a very strange look.

If that's different in other cultures, that's interesting to me.

[PRgal]

15 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

I can't see how Kate is not part of "they."  Jack is a blind 10 year old.  Someone is driving him to Kevin's house.  And if Kate was deceased in 2030, Jack (and Hailey) would be with Toby not in a car with a yet to be revealed adult.  At this point, the only adults not accounted for are Kate, Miguel, and Kevin's spouse.  

I honestly think the reason Toby is there is to honor the actor.  Chris has been on the show since episode one just like Chrissy, Sterling, Justin, Milo, Mandy, and Susan.  It does make some sense the show will have him in the final episode.  Also why Kate is alive.  

Don’t forget Philip.  There could have been a case for Jack and Hailey to stay with Philip rather than Toby due to mental health issues he might be having (I know they’d probably be better off with, say, Kevin or Randall, but you never know what Kate might have wanted).

[Ohiopirate02]

20 minutes ago, PRgal said:

Don’t forget Philip.  There could have been a case for Jack and Hailey to stay with Philip rather than Toby due to mental health issues he might be having (I know they’d probably be better off with, say, Kevin or Randall, but you never know what Kate might have wanted).

While the show has had some out there plots, I can't see the show both having Toby relinquish his parental rights for Philip to adopt them legally and then killing off Kate.  There is not enough show left for that.   

[Diana Berry]

So with the latest episode, is it clear that Sophie is endgame now?  Madison’s boyfriend clearly indicates he in it for the long haul.  Flashbacks have Sophie popping up and then Kate texting her in the present.  
 

Does anyone remember the show about the horse , the young girl and her father? What was the deal ?  Just thought about it. 

Edited February 28, 2022 by Diana Berry

[debraran]

41 minutes ago, Diana Berry said:

So with the latest episode, is it clear that Sophie is endgame now?  Madison’s boyfriend clearly indicates he in it for the long haul.  Flashbacks have Sophie popping up and then Kate texting her in the present.  
 

Does anyone remember the show about the horse , the young girl and her father? What was the deal ?  Just thought about it. 

With this show "who knows?" re Sophie but it seemed like a ton of wasted episodes and "clues" and favorite couple things to have it wasted. The horse, that story, I was hoping was lost to Covid. It seems maybe a little if you read this 2020 article. Toward the bottom, Dan says Season 5 will bring him and Kevin together. https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/this-is-us-who-sadie-eli-mason-girl-with-horse-josh-hamilton-glory-joy-rose.html/

I'm hoping with about 30 min of material a week, lately less, they let it go. They had to catch up with Miguel and Rebecca, that's enough.

Edited February 28, 2022 by debraran

[Good Queen Jane]

I keep getting flashbacks to the final season of Lost. So many little mysteries that still need to be resolved. I have this fear that the ending will be that this has all been part of a fevered hallucination on the part of Jack after the fire and that it turns out he never died.

[Ohiopirate02]

4 hours ago, Diana Berry said:

So with the latest episode, is it clear that Sophie is endgame now?  Madison’s boyfriend clearly indicates he in it for the long haul.  Flashbacks have Sophie popping up and then Kate texting her in the present.  
 

I didn't see that scene with Elijah as closing the door on Madison being Kevin's future wife.  I say this because we get Elijah marking his territory in the same episode as Miguel jealously looking on at Rebecca and Matt in the flashback.  His speech was also all about him and what Madison means to him.  And Elijah telling Kevin to back off when Kevin is the father of Madison's children and the brother of Kate is not what a healthy, long-term partnership makes.  If he is really in it for the long haul, then he needs to speak to Madison about her setting up boundaries with Kevin and hammering out a custody agreement with Kevin that suits both of them.  The door for Kevin and Madison is still open, maybe not as wide as last season but open all the same.

Then the writers bring up Sophie yet again.  They want to drag this out until the very end for some reason.  

[Diana Berry]

13 hours ago, debraran said:

With this show "who knows?" re Sophie but it seemed like a ton of wasted episodes and "clues" and favorite couple things to have it wasted. The horse, that story, I was hoping was lost to Covid. It seems maybe a little if you read this 2020 article. Toward the bottom, Dan says Season 5 will bring him and Kevin together. https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/this-is-us-who-sadie-eli-mason-girl-with-horse-josh-hamilton-glory-joy-rose.html/

I'm hoping with about 30 min of material a week, lately less, they let it go. They had to catch up with Miguel and Rebecca, that's enough.

i guess it’s possible.  Kevin and Madison have an epiphany about their feelings as the  twins get older.

 Ty I had forgotten horseman was Madison’s doctor.  Well I don’t remember him from season 5 so they must have dropped it.

so this season has 18 episodes good grief.  I rather have 12 episodes of meat and potatoes vs 18 of filler.  I felt last week , a complete waste.  The only high point was seeing Goran aka ‘Dr. Luka. ‘. 12 more to go. 

[Diana Berry]

9 hours ago, Good Queen Jane said:

I keep getting flashbacks to the final season of Lost. So many little mysteries that still need to be resolved. I have this fear that the ending will be that this has all been part of a fevered hallucination on the part of Jack after the fire and that it turns out he never died.

Oh mercy. Wouldn’t surprise me.  Jack is the end all be all.  Sorry Miguel.

aging myself but please don’t let it  end with a little boy looking at a snoglobe Ala St. Elsewhere. 

[CrystalBlue]

1 hour ago, Diana Berry said:

Oh mercy. Wouldn’t surprise me.  Jack is the end all be all.  Sorry Miguel.

aging myself but please don’t let it  end with a little boy looking at a snoglobe Ala St. Elsewhere. 

Or Jack in the shower a la Dallas.

Best case alternative scenario:

Rebecca and Miguel wake up in bed together and there was never any cognitive decline diagnosis.  They're fine ... after a good night's sleep snuggled in each other's arms.

(Rebecca was on the bed in the "deathbed" scene with Nicky holding vigil, dreaming the above.)

[CdrJanny]

3 hours ago, Diana Berry said:

Oh mercy. Wouldn’t surprise me.  Jack is the end all be all.  Sorry Miguel.

aging myself but please don’t let it  end with a little boy looking at a snoglobe Ala St. Elsewhere. 

Been thinking that might happen.  But I really do think the end will be Jack coming out of a brief 2 or 3 day coma after the fire and he imagined all the future stuff.

[debraran]

7 hours ago, CdrJanny said:

Been thinking that might happen.  But I really do think the end will be Jack coming out of a brief 2 or 3 day coma after the fire and he imagined all the future stuff.

I cant see them being that imaginative and they keep using words like "very sad" which isn't promising. : ) We don't have a vote, but I just hope no Titanic seeing Jack as she floats by others. (gag) Maybe if Miguel is dead they'll just show her meeting him, Kyle (at some age) and then Jack but not in a romantic way since that would be odd with 2 husbands. Or maybe it will be just others memories. I'm not a big fan of Hallmark endings but the way this show built up Jacks death and now Rebecca's, I just think it should be more about living not just dying and making it a ratings booster. I get it but they drag things on, make it a mystery, it loses the real feelings while fans vote who is alive, dead, in cars etc. There's a balance in keeping interested but I was surprised how many people where I work don't watch it any more. We had about 50 at one point, now when we had a meeting and people were discussing shows, (more on Netlfix/Amazon) I realized all the women who said they watched it, at least up to the crockpot, don't now. Maybe that's how the public is with most shows, IDK, but I doubt my anecdotal experience is just mine. I think he is calling it right with ending it this season and maybe a movie later. .

Edited March 1, 2022 by debraran

[himela]

I would love an ending just like Six Feet Under.

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A look into the future while Rebecca is dying seeing her kids and grandkids growing up, having their kids, dying etc. Now that would be a perfect ending to this show that would make me love it again.

 

 

[Ohiopirate02]

8 minutes ago, himela said:

I would love an ending just like Six Feet Under.

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A look into the future while Rebecca is dying seeing her kids and grandkids growing up, having their kids, dying etc. Now that would be a perfect ending to this show that would make me love it again.

 

 

I have a feeling we are going to get an ending in this vein.  We have already seen into the future with Jack and Hailey, and a grand-kid Pearson ending makes sense or a grandkid/great-grandkid final scene.  Again, we have seen one great-grandkid far into the future and Deja is pregnant in 2030.  

[Trillian]

On 2/12/2022 at 10:33 PM, Blakeston said:

No one's saying that she isn't family to Randall.

I consider my husband's cousin Daniel to be a member of my family. But if I introduced him to someone as "my cousin Daniel," I think he'd give me a very strange look.

If that's different in other cultures, that's interesting to me.

My cousin’s wife once introduced me as her cousin and I was momentarily taken back. Then I realized that I am not a Pearson and that this person didn’t need a full exposition of our family tree and just decided to be flattered she considered me part of her family.  Then again, as you say, it’s often cultural - we’re Italian and tend not to make distinctions between degrees of relatives (he’s actually my second cousin, for example, but I’ve always just said and thought “cousin”).

23 hours ago, himela said:

I would love an ending just like Six Feet Under.

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A look into the future while Rebecca is dying seeing her kids and grandkids growing up, having their kids, dying etc. Now that would be a perfect ending to this show that would make me love it again.

 

 

If they try that, it will go down in history as the worst ending since How I Met Your Mother.  The brilliance of the SFU ending cannot be matched, and certainly not in the hands of these writers.

[himela]

1 hour ago, Trillian said:

If they try that, it will go down in history as the worst ending since How I Met Your Mother.  The brilliance of the SFU ending cannot be matched, and certainly not in the hands of these writers.

I don't see any other way this show can end. It's a social drama that is about family and the relationships between them. It's the most natural way to make it end, showing how people lived their lives and how their lives ended.

What else can they do?

[gonzosgirrl]

4 hours ago, himela said:

I don't see any other way this show can end. It's a social drama that is about family and the relationships between them. It's the most natural way to make it end, showing how people lived their lives and how their lives ended.

What else can they do?

I think it depends on how sure of a thing a spin-off of some sort is. Considering we are already seeing quite a ways into the future (having seen adult Jack having a child of his own), they don't really need to show us each character's ending. Doing so could hamstring that character in any spin off, if they decide to stick with canon.

[ItCouldBeWorse]

On 1/30/2022 at 3:13 AM, himela said:

On 1/29/2022 at 10:04 PM, PRgal said:

Kate and Philip.

Right. But why didn't Toby call the adult who is driving them there and he called Jack?

Maybe Jack and Hailey are in an Uber.

Or, self-driving cars have been perfected!

 

[chocolatine]

10 minutes ago, ItCouldBeWorse said:

Maybe Jack and Hailey are in an Uber.

Or, self-driving cars have been perfected!

They would be too young to be going anywhere without an adult. Hailey is the same age as Kevin's twins, who seem to be nine or ten years old in that flash-forward, and Jack is two years older.

[debraran]

4 hours ago, chocolatine said:

They would be too young to be going anywhere without an adult. Hailey is the same age as Kevin's twins, who seem to be nine or ten years old in that flash-forward, and Jack is two years older.

That is something a few people noted but it keeps getting lost. They were close in age, Jack would be young and his sister younger. Unless Kevin had more kids and those looked like his twins, Jack wasn't old enough to drive. He was in the really far future, older but I'm not sure why they felt they had to show us that so early.

[Pallas]

4 minutes ago, debraran said:

He was in the really far future, older but I'm not sure why they felt they had to show us that so early.

To reassure us, early on, about how he prospered, despite his disability and the difficulties we'd begin to see between his parents. 

[debraran]

14 minutes ago, Pallas said:

To reassure us, early on, about how he prospered, despite his disability and the difficulties we'd begin to see between his parents. 

Yes,, but we saw he was doing well financially, had a wife and baby so anything that happened to him from NICU on was kind of a yawn, lost suspense.  I get it though. And the sister was thin, beautiful and doing well.

[Pallas]

My guess is that they've made a deliberate choice for reassurance over suspense when it comes to the grandchildren in the far-future, these babies and children we'll only know as such. Reassurance on that front while at the same time, the show introduces and explores Rebecca's dementia and death, Kevin's quest to become a family man, and Kate and Toby's divorce, as ongoing storylines.  

[debraran]

Trying to find link but on this is us fan group a fan caught Sophie filing a wedding episode outside. Car said “ just married “ but ther weren’t in dress. Maybe Kate’s ? Train looks like England and cars maybe too.

Edited March 4, 2022 by debraran

[debraran]

Time will tell but I’m happy she’s there.  No smiles in candids but does show wedding