OutDaughtered - General Discussion

[Dibs]

On 8/27/2023 at 12:10 AM, eel2178 said:

Does anyone know if Danielle had a boob job?

I'm just wondering if her mystery autoimmune disease could have anything to do with a reaction to implants particularly if they're silicone.

Indeed she did.  At least once.  Meaning, I don't know if she's had larger implants inserted since the original.

However, isn't this autoimmune disease diagnosis possibly just something the doctors came up with when they couldn't find anything else wrong with her and she kept showing up at their offices for filming?  Is there an actual lab test that proves one has autoimmune disease, or is it a diagnosis of exclusion with the symptoms basically self-reported?

I ask in all sincerity because, at least with Danielle, it seems to wax and wane based on the amount of fun she's having at the moment; she admitted as much during her drinking and dancing Dallas girls getaway

Can they focus less on Hazel's eyes (which seem to have stabilized) and more on her speech?  All the girls use the baby-voice, but I notice she doesn't even pronounce all the parts of words.  Is her hearing okay?

It's so obvious this "marital strife" is cooked up when Adam sits back with a whatever and a smirk; please!

Edited August 30, 2023 by Dibs

[eel2178]

22 hours ago, Dibs said:

isn't this autoimmune disease diagnosis possibly just something the doctors came up with when they couldn't find anything else wrong with her and she kept showing up at their offices for filming? 

The only way to know for sure would be to have her implants removed and see if she stops complaining about her "symptoms" (real or imaginary).

22 hours ago, Dibs said:

IIs there an actual lab test that proves one has autoimmune disease, or is it a diagnosis of exclusion with the symptoms basically self-reported?

That depends on the disease. Some autoimmune diseases have specific tests that would determine yes or no definitively (MRI for multiple sclerosis or biopsy of the small intestine for celiac-sprue). Others rely on more general testing such as results that would indicate some type of inflammation or elevation of antibodies (CBC, C-reactive protein or erythrocyte sedimentation rate indicates inflammation somewhere in the body that may or may not be due to an autoimmune disease or an elevated antinuclear antibody can indicate at least half a dozen different autoimmune diseases but which one it is would be narrowed down by the type of symptoms). Then there are others that don't have abnormalities that will show up with current medical science and are labeled based solely on symptoms.

Edited August 31, 2023 by eel2178

[Elodia]

13 hours ago, TipseyGirl said:

Adam looked like an absolute tool in his cowboy getup.

*lol*Indeed he did! First he was posing in that ridiculously huge fluffy bathrobe, showing off his chest, now that cowboy outfit. I suspect he had seen "Barbie" and sees himself as Ken now ;-)

[Quof]

Complete with the "smooth area"?

[Lurk]

On 8/29/2023 at 8:13 PM, JeanJean said:

Major pet peeve: When did people start saying "whenever"  instead of "when"? (Or should I say,  whenever did people start...)

"Eversense" the popularity of reality TV, influencers and social media. Whenever I hear "ever since", it puts my teeth on edge. There are a few other phrases or mispronunciations that are equally as irritating. I don't know if they do it trying to be cutesy, trendy, or relatable. 

On 8/30/2023 at 2:40 AM, SDVegas said:

Do we really have to see the saga of Hazel learning (or should I say NOT learning) how to ride a bike - every single week? Can’t wait for the season finale which I can’t imagine will be anything other than - Hazel has finally learned to ride a bike. 

Yeesh

Why did he NOT put the damn training wheels on the bike to begin with? What kid learns to ride a bike without training wheels?

[Dibs]

"Whenever" in place of "when" is a southern speech thing; I hear it all the time.

[endure]

On 8/30/2023 at 11:58 AM, eel2178 said:

The only way to know for sure would be to have her implants removed and see if she stops complaining about her "symptoms" (real or imaginary).

That depends on the disease. Some autoimmune diseases have specific tests that would determine yes or no definitively (MRI for multiple sclerosis or biopsy of the small intestine for celiac-sprue). Others rely on more general testing such as results that would indicate some type of inflammation or elevation of antibodies (CBC, C-reactive protein or erythrocyte sedimentation rate indicates inflammation somewhere in the body that may or may not be due to an autoimmune disease or an elevated antinuclear antibody can indicate at least half a dozen different autoimmune diseases but which one it is would be narrowed down by the type of symptoms). Then there are others that don't have abnormalities that will show up with current medical science and are labeled based solely on symptoms.

It is often assumed MS is autoimmune but to my knowledge it is not proven.  And I’ve often wondered why autoimmune is suggested for Danielle when she doesn’t appear to have any diagnosis.  I’m not in any way suggesting she doesn’t have something going on but it seems odd they don’t say more about her current testing etc.

 

[RoxiP]

On 8/23/2023 at 12:17 PM, gerry said:

A Brit here, but with family/friends dotted around North America so I spend a lot of time "across the pond". I've spent so much of my time trying to teach grandchildren and nieces and nephews to say please and thank you and my d-i-l (who is Canadian) readily admits that if it weren't for me & my son - who was raised in the UK - their children would never say please and thank you as much as they do - it's the perception here that you rarely get a please or thank you from Americans. Good to know there's a lot of you who do teach their kids good manners - maybe we focus too much on those who don't say it rather than those who do!

 

My native Texan daughter says please and thank you and also yes ma'am and no ma'am (and of course yes sir and no sir).  I used to get so angry when an adult would tell her she didn't have to say yes ma'am (sir) when I would correct her when she didn't.  And I suspect her child (she is 23 weeks pregnant) will be raised the same way.  Funny thing - she loves the fact that she has good manners and is considered a very respectful young woman (her husband works in a church and it is truly appreciated).  She will probably clean up on baby presents...LOL!

[Becks24]

I am just now watching season 9 and they are nearly 8 and still constantly do the "baby talk" and when they took hazel to the eye DR Adam is carrying her like she is 3 yrs old still. The whining baby voices drive me nuts!!!

[CrazyInAlabama]

Another season starts Tueday, 7 May, and comes on after the new season of Derricos.     

[Dibs]

On 4/9/2024 at 12:02 PM, Becks24 said:

I am just now watching season 9 and they are nearly 8 and still constantly do the "baby talk" and when they took hazel to the eye DR Adam is carrying her like she is 3 yrs old still. The whining baby voices drive me nuts!!!

I suspect their parents and/or TLC encourage this to keep them "little" and "cute," but it's detrimental to their development.  Seems only Riley speaks normally, but then she's always been the outlier.

[eel2178]

20 hours ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

Another season starts Tueday, 7 May, and comes on after the new season of Derricos.     

The Busbys must need money again. How many of their "businesses" have failed?

[CrazyInAlabama]

All of them from what I've read.   The cycle studio was proven to be an endorsement and storyline, they were never partners.  The athletic wear store closed recently.   So, Danielle may still have that skin care line she shills for, and there was that Grayson-Bee boutique, don't know if that's still around or not.   

Edited May 2 by CrazyInAlabama

[mmecorday]

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The Busbys must need money again.

In tonight's episode the quints visited an orthodontist and the estimate for their future procedures was $35,000, so I guess they do. 

[JeanJean]

I was skeptical about yet another season, but it was nice to see them. I enjoy the day-to-day stuff much more than the trips and parties. I zone out during those.

Edited May 8 by JeanJean

[BAForever]

Only have this on because it's my LPBW time slot. A few thoughts- Danielle looks like she's either off her meds or found a better one. There are a couple potential mean-girls in that group (I know siblings fight, I have 7). I don't give AF if you have to pay $35,000 for braces, you chose to have 6 kids. Adam has a job that interferes with Danielle's buying trip- calling shenanigans! Lastly, if any kids are struggling with school (I heard them read, it could be a problem), a solution is hiring a tutor. Lots of teachers will tutor after school/summers. It's a good investment. 

[Dibs]

I guess the story line this season is busy career woman (running a vanity boutique) Danielle exasperated with lazy, do-nothing, Disneyland stay-at-home dad Adam and collapsing in exhaustion only to mysteriously revive when there's an opportunity to go partying with friends or vacationing with her sisters.  Lather, rinse, repeat!  I admit it's fun to watch the girls grow up, but those twins have always been Mean Girls; Ava in particular.  Interesting dynamic.

I like Blayke's blase attitude.

Where's Mimi (again)?

Edited May 8 by Dibs

[CrazyInAlabama]

Mimi has been exiled since her DUI a few years ago.    The storyline about Mimi struggling to get her realtors license?  She worked for the same agency for six years, so another storyline. 

Edited May 8 by CrazyInAlabama

[endure]

On 5/8/2024 at 7:21 AM, Dibs said:

I guess the story line this season is busy career woman (running a vanity boutique) Danielle exasperated with lazy, do-nothing, Disneyland stay-at-home dad Adam and collapsing in exhaustion only to mysteriously revive when there's an opportunity to go partying with friends or vacationing with her sisters.  Lather, rinse, repeat!  I admit it's fun to watch the girls grow up, but those twins have always been Mean Girls; Ava in particular.  Interesting dynamic.

I like Blayke's blase attitude.

Where's Mimi (again)?

I was busy doing something and the show was playing in the background, I thought I heard Mimi talking but when I came to look I saw it was Danielle, she sounds a lot like Mimi.  The kids I notice still don't speak clearly, maybe they should get a speech therapist and a reading tutor 🙄 Obviously Danielle is overwhelmed and Adam thinks reading with the kids is a massive undertaking.  He should think about what a teacher accomplishes with a classroom full of kids the same age and he can't stay focused for maybe an hour?!?  I won't even comment on the dental stuff other than to say it is such a 1st world issue.  

I agree re Blake seems pretty awesome, she doesn't appear to compete for attention or make demands and seems pretty sweet.                                                                                                                  

[eel2178]

On 5/8/2024 at 12:12 PM, CrazyInAlabama said:

Mimi has been exiled since her DUI a few years ago.    The storyline about Mimi struggling to get her realtors license?  She worked for the same agency for six years, so another storyline. 

The last time a did a google search Mimi had sold all of 2 houses, and one of them is the house the Busbys are currently living in. She didn't even sell the house they moved out of.

I would hope she has some other source of income.

[BAForever]

I used to like these people- but now, nope. Is there anything faker than Adam's photography "job"? The girls' baby talk is annoying and way to promote Danielle's business. Bet the clothes are way overpriced. And claiming they've never had help? Baloney.

[CrazyInAlabama]

They've had live-in nannies for years.   They showed at least one of them when they moved into the current house. 

[65mickey]

I really hope that Ava gets help from a reading specialist. She was 8 and in the third grade when this was filmed I think, and her reading level is so poor that I wonder how she was promoted to the third grade. I don't think just Danielle  reading with her at night will solve the problem. 

[salvame]

To me, it seems like they are setting up for the breakup of the marriage, like all other "reality" couples. Danielle does need therapy, as she wants others to help but only if they do it her way. She is a control freak who can't let things go. The kids are old enough to have responsibilities, not just throwing Legos around while D picks up their closet. And about that: if they destroy the closet trying to get a t shirt, maybe it's time for the show to hire a consultant from a closet/organizer store to set up a more kid friendly solution. They complain how hard it is having multiples, yet they don't seem capable of helping them help themselves. Adam's improper grammar still drives me nuts!! Especially his use of 'whenever' instead of 'when'.

[Dibs]

Not to defend Adam...  But "whenever" for "when" is a common southern colloquialism.  The Duggars did it, the Johnstons do it, etc.  It's the inability of any reality tee-vee star, including Amy Roloff who's from Detroit, to say "me" instead of "I" when indicated that drives me crazy!

Edited May 15 by Dibs

[tinderbox]

49 minutes ago, salvame said:

To me, it seems like they are setting up for the breakup of the marriage, like all other "reality" couples. Danielle does need therapy, as she wants others to help but only if they do it her way. She is a control freak who can't let things go. The kids are old enough to have responsibilities, not just throwing Legos around while D picks up their closet. And about that: if they destroy the closet trying to get a t shirt, maybe it's time for the show to hire a consultant from a closet/organizer store to set up a more kid friendly solution. They complain how hard it is having multiples, yet they don't seem capable of helping them help themselves. Adam's improper grammar still drives me nuts!! Especially his use of 'whenever' instead of 'when'.

THIS ^^^
 

If Danielle wasn’t such a control freak, she’d figure out ways to teach/force her daughters to take care if their closets and playroom etc.  Doing it all for them because she requires perfection, is counterproductive .  
 

i used to wash my children’s clothing exactly the way they appeared in the laundry chute.  If inside out, they’d be given back to them clean but inside out for them to deal with.  

[BAForever]

3 hours ago, 65mickey said:

I really hope that Ava gets help from a reading specialist. She was 8 and in the third grade when this was filmed I think, and her reading level is so poor that I wonder how she was promoted to the third grade. I don't think just Danielle  reading with her at night will solve the problem. 

So right @65mickey. Her 1st grade teacher would have notified parents. Lower elem does so much assessing on reading skills, guarantee she has a portfolio built. It's just a story line- something else for Danielle to stress over.

Oh, and Danielle and Adam, here's an idea. It's fall- you offer the 5 younger kids one activity- say dance. If they want to do it, fine, if not, another activity will start up when dance is over and they can chose or not to participate. This will alleviate some of your crazy schedule. 

[camom]

So last week Danielle was freaking out because Adam would be gone on the first day of school and she was going to Dallas. So he manages to get it changed and she has another fit. I’m no Adam fan, but no matter what he does it will never be enough. And if they can’t figure out how to handle one day, what’s happening when Danielle goes on her frequent girl trips?  Either there’s a nanny or Adam is pulling his weight.  And I totally agree that the girls should have chores. 

[CrazyInAlabama]

They've had full time nannies for years, I bet the second the church and family volunteers ran out of time when the babies were little.    They've even taken them on vacations with them, because they don't always have the kids on camera, so someone must be watching them.  

[SDVegas]

Yikes what a nasty family. The adults are mean to the kids, the kids are mean to each other. So unpleasant. 

[Dibs]

7 hours ago, SDVegas said:

Yikes what a nasty family. The adults are mean to the kids, the kids are mean to each other. So unpleasant. 

You forgot to add that the wife is mean to the husband.

[endure]

On 5/15/2024 at 10:19 AM, tinderbox said:

THIS ^^^
 

If Danielle wasn’t such a control freak, she’d figure out ways to teach/force her daughters to take care if their closets and playroom etc.  Doing it all for them because she requires perfection, is counterproductive .  
 

i used to wash my children’s clothing exactly the way they appeared in the laundry chute.  If inside out, they’d be given back to them clean but inside out for them to deal with.  

Not sure why but my washer sometimes turns my clothes Inside out.

[SDVegas]

16 hours ago, Dibs said:

You forgot to add that the wife is mean to the husband.

She’s pretty darn nice to him considering how useless he is

[endure]

I'm finally sitting here watching this latest episode, I really have to make the effort so not sure why I watch, train wreck mentality I guess but they're uncomfortable to watch.  Danielle just doesn't stop with the constant complaining, woe is me I do everything and guilt abuse.  I'm sure they aren't the only couple with a large family but she is sure not equipped to manage it even though she thinks she is the ultimate manager, organizer, do everything perfect person.  There's no reason she couldn't enjoy a nice bath and lock the bathroom door.  And why were all the kids clothes on the closet floor, that was odd, and what was she doing with them, it looked totally faked.  Also the girls surrounded in an enormous mess of lego etc, they are more than capable of cleaning up their own messes, again totally faked. They made a point of saying twice they have never had a nanny so I'm assuming this is her current motivation.  Next it will be a bigger better house with more closets and a nanny suite.  On the positive note her physical health seems fine this season but now it's her mental health. I wish they would show an episode of them just enjoying being a large family.

[endure]

On 5/16/2024 at 4:08 AM, CrazyInAlabama said:

They've had full time nannies for years, I bet the second the church and family volunteers ran out of time when the babies were little.    They've even taken them on vacations with them, because they don't always have the kids on camera, so someone must be watching them.  

Wow, really - then how do they come on and both Danielle & Adam say they have never had a nanny, like it is so beneath them?  I remember the Gosselin's doing the same thing so I guess I shouldn't be surprised at all.  They seem to have a similar a script in their storylines don't they?

[endure]

That whole closet scene seemed faked to me, how can little kids be expected to get clothes off/on hangers that are way too high for them to reach.  All those little t-shirts should be folded in a drawer for them to access.  Besides, they probably have way too many clothes by the looks of the mess.  I just couldn't figure out what Danielle was even doing there and honestly Adam could have helped if he could have figured out her method lol.  No idea what is real here and what is being created for drama but it's def not a pretty picture. 

[endure]

Here's an instagram post by Danielle from 4 days ago where she is defending her devout Christian self and asking people not to make negative comments about them because of their 'TV show'.... more or less.  I guess I take issue where she is such a christian yet she can have a reality TV show featuring her minor children and actually create fake drama and pretend to do everything herself.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C7AL7S-P8A-/?hl=en

[SDVegas]

9 minutes ago, endure said:

Here's an instagram post by Danielle from 4 days ago where she is defending her devout Christian self and asking people not to make negative comments about them because of their 'TV show'.... more or less.  I guess I take issue where she is such a christian yet she can have a reality TV show featuring her minor children and actually create fake drama and pretend to do everything herself.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C7AL7S-P8A-/?hl=en

That is a HILARIOUS post by Danielle. Choose your words, be kind, etc…she should preach that to her family!

[endure]

1 hour ago, SDVegas said:

That is a HILARIOUS post by Danielle. Choose your words, be kind, etc…she should preach that to her family!

It was so funny, who even talks about her eyebrows, and she brings up how 'real' they are 🥹

Edited May 20 by endure
edited from honest to real

[eel2178]

5 hours ago, SDVegas said:

That is a HILARIOUS post by Danielle. Choose your words, be kind, etc…she should preach that to her family!

Why did they decide to resurrect their TV show if they are so offended by the comments? I seriously doubt the reason has anything to do with "bring joy and realness" to the masses.

I do hope that Danielle reads this. I won't let her bully me into not expressing my opinion.

[JeanJean]

u/o: I like the Busbys!

I'm enjoying this season more than the last one or two because it focuses on day-to-day life again rather than trips and big activities.

Edited May 22 by JeanJean

[BAForever]

4 hours ago, JeanJean said:

u/o: I like the Busbys!

I'm enjoying this season more than the last one or two because it focuses on day-to-day life again rather than trips and big activities.

I want to like them @JeanJean! They make it so hard though. I usually like the early seasons of shows- then the money rolls in and the family changes- that's a nice place they live in. Interesting how they are hedging now about the help they've had over the years. 

Blayke is my favorite, looks like her mom. Hope she doesn't get her controlling personality.

Danielle frustrated me with the girls haircuts. Instead of "it's so short", her first words should be "I love it". Words matter.

And surprised the kids were "pulling sticks" as classroom management. Many teachers (like me) believe that it's humiliating for students and find other methods to help manage behaviors.

Edited May 22 by BAForever

[Dibs]

On 5/20/2024 at 11:22 AM, SDVegas said:

That is a HILARIOUS post by Danielle. Choose your words, be kind, etc…she should preach that to her family!

I've noticed some of the meanest people are those who make the biggest deal of being nice, with the "Be Kind" signs in their yards.

Not only "it's so short," but she repeatedly said they "chopped it off."  Not very supportive!  Maybe Adam the SAH dad was sick of dealing with five heads of tangled hair!  They should be able to take care of it themselves at age nine.

The very first reality TV was the documentary, "An American Family" in the 1960s.  People were fascinated just watching them live their day-to-day ordinary lives, and it was a success as is.  Then drama naturally happened (the parents divorced, although it was rumored that the producers played a hand in it), so I guess that's why TLC thinks we want all this manufactured drama now.

Edited May 22 by Dibs

[endure]

5 hours ago, BAForever said:

I want to like them @JeanJean! They make it so hard though. I usually like the early seasons of shows- then the money rolls in and the family changes- that's a nice place they live in. Interesting how they are hedging now about the help they've had over the years. 

Blayke is my favorite, looks like her mom. Hope she doesn't get her controlling personality.

Danielle frustrated me with the girls haircuts. Instead of "it's so short", her first words should be "I love it". Words matter.

And surprised the kids were "pulling sticks" as classroom management. Many teachers (like me) believe that it's humiliating for students and find other methods to help manage behaviors.

I like Blayke too, she seems a lot different than the other girls, I think she is a lot prettier than Danielle but def favours her looks..... she's aways seemed so mature.  

I agree Danielle is always so critical, maybe because she is so controlling and immediately takes the offensive if she's not in control especially with anything Adam does, it's no wonder why he is reluctant to take the initiative around her - it's never good enough for her.  They do have a nice house but she said it's disastrous? No  idea what she meant by that, she's not very grateful for what she does have, at least not on their reality show.

Danielle mentioned they have no grandparents there helping them out.  I wonder if Mimi moved away?  I saw a photo of the family including her sisters and families at their Cajun Christmas - and again no Mimi, but maybe she just wasn't in the photo?

I have never heard of pulling sticks in schools, is it a punishment? My two nieces are both teachers, I will ask them if they are aware of it.

Edited May 22 by endure

[BAForever]

11 minutes ago, endure said:

 

I have never heard of pulling sticks in schools, is it a punishment? My two nieces are both teachers, I will ask them if they are aware of it.

The procedure is a student does something wrong during class and has to pull a popsicle stick or move a clothes pin with their name on it. It's the equivalent of getting name written on corner of chalk board years ago. It's hard on kids because it's so public (all others in class are aware). There are better ways to have good class control in my opinion.

[mmecorday]

I watch a lot of gross stuff on TV, but seeing (and hearing) Adam slurp up the blood from his injured finger had me gagging. 

[endure]

3 hours ago, mmecorday said:

I watch a lot of gross stuff on TV, but seeing (and hearing) Adam slurp up the blood from his injured finger had me gagging. 

I know 🧛🏻‍♂️ it was too much!  But what a complete fool to have an open knife or blade inside of a bag, thankfully one of the kids didn't go to get him something out of his bag..... he's not too bright at times.

Edited May 22 by endure

[camom]

I have no idea how the pictures turned out, but I doubt Adam will be getting more work based on his performance at that job.  It looked like they were running an hour late because of him.  He cut himself, dropped the camera, etc.  Not very professional.

 

[kav]

17 hours ago, BAForever said:

 

And surprised the kids were "pulling sticks" as classroom management. Many teachers (like me) believe that it's humiliating for students and find other methods to help manage behaviors.

Well think about where they live and what those education values are around there...

[ButterQueen]

I took a break from this show and decided to give it another chance.  OMG, Danielle does nothing but complain.  Girl, if you’re so concerned about the safety of your van, take it to the dealership to have it serviced and get a rental.  It’s not that hard.  I don’t believe she’s so busy with her boutique…..and for the love of god, stop making me feel bad for Adam.  They seem to hate each other.  All of the daughters are so cute, but I’m out.

Oh, I hated the reading scenes.  Way to embarrass whichever girl was struggling.  UGH!