The Star Wars Saga

[benteen]

I've heard that Hayden didn't even know GL was going to insert his face into the end sequence.  Weird.

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Watching Shaw as Vader gave (producer) Howard Kazanjian an idea. “George was terrific and would sometimes listen to suggestions,” he would say. “So I said, ‘When Yoda and Obi-Wan Kenobi are in that ghost effect at the end of the picture, why don’t we have Darth Vader there?’

That's the second time I've heard GL listened to someone during the making of ROTJ.  Originally, Yoda wasn't going to be in ROTJ.  The late Richard Marquand, who directed ROTJ, convinced GL to include Yoda because audiences would want to see him.

[MsNewsradio]

On 9/22/2016 at 9:12 AM, ulkis said:

I was going to say, I didn't think they had the original original out on DVD/blue-ray. "Edited" wasn't quite the correct word in my other post, the tinkered with version, I guess.

There was a DVD edition that was released I think back in 2004 where you could watch the unedited film versions on the bonus discs. No upgrade to audio, etc., but at least I don't want to rip my hair out watching Hayden at the end of RotJ or seeing CGI Jabba in A New Hope. No idea how much they differ from the true originals, but we just rewatched them this month and there aren't any glaring differences that I can recall.

[GHScorpiosRule]

3 minutes ago, MsNewsradio said:

There was a DVD edition that was released I think back in 2004 where you could watch the unedited film versions on the bonus discs. No upgrade to audio, etc., but at least I don't want to rip my hair out watching Hayden at the end of RotJ or seeing CGI Jabba in A New Hope. No idea how much they differ from the true originals, but we just rewatched them this month and there aren't any glaring differences that I can recall.

Thanks be to the decision maker for the Three in one of the "original" trilogy bluray I got--that A New Hope DOES NOT have that horrid CGI Jabba running/sliding across, like they added in the 20th? anniversary? It wasn't on the one I watched, and I was soooo grateful. Just the conversation between Jabba and Han in the bar. 

If only I had known back in 2004....oh well. So I'll just close my left eye and look upon Obi and Yoda the next time I watch the end.

Can someone clarify something for me? Did Lucas have the prequels written when the original came out? Because in the last one, when Luke and Leia are talking, she tells him she sort of remembers her mother, except in the prequels, didn't their mom die after giving birth? And Vader seemed confused that Luke had a sister in Empire as Luke is trying not to think about her after Vader chopped off Luke's hand.

[MsNewsradio]

1 minute ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

If only I had known back in 2004....oh well. So I'll just close my left eye and look upon Obi and Yoda the next time I watch the end.

eBay is your friend ;) We managed to score copies of that edition for a friend's birthday last year. Just double check when it was released so you don't end up with the same version that you already have (I know there are comparison sites out there that will detail the specifics). 

I don't think Lucas had the prequels down in any set way, more like vague inclinations towards what he wanted to include. I think the continuity errors are a reflection of that. 

[ulkis]

2 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Can someone clarify something for me? Did Lucas have the prequels written when the original came out? Because in the last one, when Luke and Leia are talking, she tells him she sort of remembers her mother, except in the prequels, didn't their mom die after giving birth? And Vader seemed confused that Luke had a sister in Empire as Luke is trying not to think about her after Vader chopped off Luke's hand.

 

2 hours ago, MsNewsradio said:

I don't think Lucas had the prequels down in any set way, more like vague inclinations towards what he wanted to include. I think the continuity errors are a reflection of that. 

Yeah, this, although I don't think Vader seeming confused Luke had a sister was actually not a continuity error. The way it was set up, Vader would have not known about Leia. (Although, Vader should have been able to sense Leia was force-sensitive, but I've seen a couple of decent fanwanks on that front.)

Edited September 23, 2016 by ulkis

[GHScorpiosRule]

2 hours ago, ulkis said:

 

Yeah, this, although I don't think Vader seeming confused Luke had a sister was actually not a continuity error. The way it was set up, Vader would have not known about Leia. (Although, Vader should have been able to sense Leia was force-sensitive, but I've seen a couple of decent fanwanks on that front.)

No, it's a continuity goof, since at the end of Revenge of the Sith, after Anakin becomes Vader, his first question is about Padmé and the children. Or just her, and whoever was there said she and "babies" died. So he knew there were at least two children. Then again, as MsNewsRadio said, the prequels weren't written when the original movies came out.

[ulkis]

13 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

No, it's a continuity goof, since at the end of Revenge of the Sith, after Anakin becomes Vader, his first question is about Padmé and the children. Or just her, and whoever was there said she and "babies" died. So he knew there were at least two children. Then again, as MsNewsRadio said, the prequels weren't written when the original movies came out.

No, neither Vader or the Emperor mentioned the children/child, he just asked about Padme.

Edited September 24, 2016 by ulkis

[Zuleikha]

What I hate most about the continuity issues caused by Padme's death in Sith is that it wasn't necessary at all. The whole way she died was such a disservice to her character.

[VCRTracking]

Rewatching the first Star Wars now and Alec Guinness doesn't seem that old now. He was the same age Mark Hamill is in The Force Awakens, but he's less haggard looking.

[absnow54]

10 hours ago, Zuleikha said:

What I hate most about the continuity issues caused by Padme's death in Sith is that it wasn't necessary at all. The whole way she died was such a disservice to her character.

I get that Lucas was trying to give the character closure, since we never see her, or hear much about her in the Original Trilogy, but I thought Luke and Leia's conversation implied enough about her fate. All we had to see was her going into hiding on Alderaan as a handmaiden (to take her character full circle from The Phantom Menace) as she sadly watched the Organa family bond. If they kept in the subplot of the Rebellion forming, we could have seen her turning her focus on the Rebel Alliance, maybe flashing the insignia, so we could infer that Padme died fighting for what she believed in. I am forever bitter about how her character was betrayed in Sith, and how she became an incubator with a broken heart.

[ulkis]

First time I saw this old article:

http://io9.gizmodo.com/5196334/this-may-be-the-star-wars-movie-youre-looking-for

So the story was quite a bit more poignant and the ending was the coronation of Leia as the queen of what was left of her people, to take over the royal symbol. That meant she was then isolated from all of the rest and Luke went off then by himself. It was basically a kind of bittersweet ending. 

I don't know how I feel about the other stuff, but I think it would have been cool to see Leia declared/voted in leader. It's too bad they didn't at least slip in a line in "Jedi" where Leia says she won't let the ewoks/endor be destroyed like Alderaan.

Edited September 25, 2016 by ulkis

[Morrigan2575]

Interesting, thanks for the link.

[bunnyblue]

I stumbled on The Empire Strikes Back on TNT last night and, since it's been a few years since I watched the original trilogy, I had to watch it. I still love it, clunky VFX and all. My heart hurt a bit, though, watching Han and Leia bicker and flirt because now I know they didn't get their happily ever after and they produced such a whiny shitty son. If I squint, I can kinda see a bit of young Harrison Ford in Adam Driver. 

Speaking of similarities, I was distracted by how much young Mark Hamil resembles Alfie Allen/Theon from Game of Thrones. Does anyone else see the resemblance? 

I fell asleep watching Empire and when I turned on the TV this morning Attack of the Clones was on. Holy shit, it's just as bad as I remember. At first I thought I was watching the cartoon The Clone Wars because everything looked like a video game. Nothing looked real, everything was clearly CGI except the actors. Yoda looked worse than he did in the original trilogy and the acting is beyond cringe worthy. Natalie Portman and Ewan McGregor are good actors but what the hell happened in this movie? Jesus, I could only bear to watch 10 minutes of that disaster before changing the channel. But it did make me appreciate The Force Awakens and JJ Abrams even more.

[VCRTracking]

People say that the acting against green screen and CGI in the prequels was the big problem, but it's actually the most convincing acting in the movies. I believe Padme's fear when she's dodging stampers in the droid factory or her pain when her back gets clawed by a creature(conveniently revealing her midriff). I believe it when Obi-Wan  is cutting up the big green crab creature. They maybe emoting against pixels but it's still emoting. It's the acting between human beings that's the problem. It's so stilted and formal and not how people talk IRL. Now their is stylized dialogue in movies(like something written David Runyon, Mamet or Aaron Sorkin, but it's at least witty and clever. It's still entertaining.

Edited September 25, 2016 by VCRTracking

[Morrigan2575]

I went to bed kast nig

3 hours ago, bunnyblue said:

I stumbled on The Empire Strikes Back on TNT last night and, since it's been a few years since I watched the original trilogy, I had to watch it. I still love it, clunky VFX and all. My heart hurt a bit, though, watching Han and Leia bicker and flirt because now I know they didn't get their happily ever after and they produced such a whiny shitty son. If I squint, I can kinda see a bit of young Harrison Ford in Adam Driver. 

Speaking of similarities, I was distracted by how much young Mark Hamil resembles Alfie Allen/Theon from Game of Thrones. Does anyone else see the resemblance? 

I fell asleep watching Empire and when I turned on the TV this morning Attack of the Clones was on. Holy shit, it's just as bad as I remember. At first I thought I was watching the cartoon The Clone Wars because everything looked like a video game. Nothing looked real, everything was clearly CGI except the actors. Yoda looked worse than he did in the original trilogy and the acting is beyond cringe worthy. Natalie Portman and Ewan McGregor are good actors but what the hell happened in this movie? 

Same thing happened to me. I had to turn it off after about 15 minutes. I forgot just hiw bad it was. 

Can someone explain to me why Padame left Jar Jar in charge after she had to go into hiding? Was there really no other option?  Because it struck me this morning as massively lazy writing to leave an idiot in charge just so he could be easily manipulated. 

[VCRTracking]

He was the Gungan representative.

[Dandesun]

On 9/22/2016 at 5:54 AM, GHScorpiosRule said:

What the fuck was that ending in Return of the Jedi?! Where was the roly poly middle aged Anakin that was in the original theatrical release? You know, Sebestian Shaw? Instead I get Hayden Fucking Christensen?!?

FUCK YOU, George Lucas??????????

I think it was one of the Lego Star Wars episodes that started at the end of Return of the Jedi (right before C3P0 retold the whole tale from the start) where Luke is looking at the Force Ghosts and is all 'Hey! Obi-Wan! Yoda! Uh... Guy I've never seen before?' And Young Anakin Force Ghost is all 'It's me! Anakin!' Luke goes 'Oh. That's not what you looked like a half hour ago...'

Seriously. One of the best things ever. Because if that was what Anakin's Force Ghost showed up as Luke would totally be all 'Um, who are you?' 

[GHScorpiosRule]

8 minutes ago, Dandesun said:

I think it was one of the Lego Star Wars episodes that started at the end of Return of the Jedi (right before C3P0 retold the whole tale from the start) where Luke is looking at the Force Ghosts and is all 'Hey! Obi-Wan! Yoda! Uh... Guy I've never seen before?' And Young Anakin Force Ghost is all 'It's me! Anakin!' Luke goes 'Oh. That's not what you looked like a half hour ago...'

Seriously. One of the best things ever. Because if that was what Anakin's Force Ghost showed up as Luke would totally be all 'Um, who are you?' 

I'm totally going to check and watch that now! Thanks @Dandesun!

[absnow54]

The entire Lego Droid Tales is brilliant. It's a retelling of the first six movies and they rip the prequel trilogy to shreds.

[Ruby Gillis]

On 9/24/2016 at 10:54 AM, absnow54 said:

I am forever bitter about how her character was betrayed in Sith, and how she became an incubator with a broken heart.

I remember watching in the theater half-asleep and waking up enough to think "this is total bullshit" when that happened.  I had a total loss of interest in Star Wars after that.  Haven't even gotten around to seeing The Force Awakens.

[bunnyblue]

On 9/24/2016 at 7:54 AM, absnow54 said:

All we had to see was her going into hiding on Alderaan as a handmaiden (to take her character full circle from The Phantom Menace) as she sadly watched the Organa family bond. 

Right? That would've been a simple solution as to why Leia remembered Padme. Or if Lucas was adamant that she die, at least have her hold newborn Leia long enough for a memory to form. Why the hell he chose to inexplicably rewrite his own story is beyond me. 

On 9/24/2016 at 7:54 AM, absnow54 said:

I am forever bitter about how her character was betrayed in Sith, and how she became an incubator with a broken heart.

 

10 hours ago, Ruby Gillis said:

I remember watching in the theater half-asleep and waking up enough to think "this is total bullshit" when that happened.

Padme losing the will to live was one the most infuriating things about ROTS. That shit was straight out of fanfiction. A broken heart killed her, George? Really?! The woman had been Force choked and gave birth to twins. It would've been far less eye-rolling if it been said she simply died from complications from that double-whammy trauma. What a fucking insult to Padme (and Luke & Leia) that the loss of her man far outweighed the needs of her babies. JFC. 

Edited September 30, 2016 by bunnyblue

[VCRTracking]

Well how did Han, Leia and Luke react to Kylo's betrayal? Han left his wife and went back to smuggling, Leia went back to leading an army, Luke vanished without a trace. These are the legendary heroes of our youth!  But at least they got to have years to deal with their trauma.  They didn't immediately go into labor with twins for who knows how many hours like Padme. Suffering incredible agony and stress to her body on top of dealing with all the sadness, grief and heartbreak she was still feeling. They all "gave up" on life but Padme was under circumstances where it was actually fatal.

Edited September 30, 2016 by VCRTracking

[absnow54]

I don't think it's ridiculous that Padme died after being grief stricken, getting chocked close to death by her husband, and then immediately having to give birth to twins. It's the robot doctor saying, "Medically, she is completely healthy. For reasons we can't explain, we are losing her."

Luke running away after failing Kylo and his friends, that's a play right out of the Jedi Self Imposed Exile handbook that we saw Obi Wan and Yoda do. Leia leading an army through grief, that's what she did when Alderaan blew up, she held it together and carried on with the fight. Han returning to smuggling, meh, I wasn't too happy about that given all his character development, but there's 30 years missing to understand his actions. 

With Padme, it would have been understandable if she died as a direct result of Anakin's betrayal and the trauma of giving birth. The execution was just awful.

[Perfect Xero]

I think the Leia/mother thing is odd because the movies never indicate that she knew she was adopted, so I always assumed that when Luke asks Leia if she remembers her "real mother" Leia's thinking to herself, "Yes, I remember my real Mother, FirstName Organa. What a weird way to phrase that question, must be a Jedi thing."

I was always surprised that most people interpreted that as Leia saying she remembered Padme.

[GHScorpiosRule]

18 minutes ago, Perfect Xero said:

I was always surprised that most people interpreted that as Leia saying she remembered Padme.

I did so, because Luke's question to Leia about her "real mother" came right after Vader told him, that he was Luke's father.

And luckily for me, the first episode of the Droid Tales was available on youtube, so at least I got to see the scene that @Dandesun mentioned up thread, and what seemed like Episode One. LOVED how it ripped it to shreds! Sadly, it's not available on Demand, and if I want to watch it on cable, I'd have to rent/buy it. Nope. Maybe I'll see if Netflix has it...

[Dandesun]

Luke was asking because he had already realized that she was actually his sister. It's the same conversation. It's all in ROTJ before Luke goes off to confront Vader for the final time. He's struggling with that, and the idea that he has to kill his own father because Yoda and Obi-Wan are both all 'Yeah... not so much with the redemption we're thinking.' He knows Leia is his sister, it's been confirmed by Obi-Wan "Your insight serves you well" and so Luke asks her about her real mother... because he wants to know who HIS mother was.

[VCRTracking]

The whole "dies of a broken heart" thing does remind me of Much Ado About Nothing and it occurred to me the two different pairs of lovers in that play are similar to the couples we see in the Star Wars saga.

Leia and Han are like Beatrice and Benedick(Cynical people quarreling with witty banter to hide their true feelings):

Claudio and Hero are Anakin and Padme: (Young lovers who have OTT romantic dialogue and the guy is an immature jerk):

Edited October 1, 2016 by VCRTracking

[Perfect Xero]

11 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I did so, because Luke's question to Leia about her "real mother" came right after Vader told him, that he was Luke's father.

And luckily for me, the first episode of the Droid Tales was available on youtube, so at least I got to see the scene that @Dandesun mentioned up thread, and what seemed like Episode One. LOVED how it ripped it to shreds! Sadly, it's not available on Demand, and if I want to watch it on cable, I'd have to rent/buy it. Nope. Maybe I'll see if Netflix has it...

 

10 hours ago, Dandesun said:

Luke was asking because he had already realized that she was actually his sister. It's the same conversation. It's all in ROTJ before Luke goes off to confront Vader for the final time. He's struggling with that, and the idea that he has to kill his own father because Yoda and Obi-Wan are both all 'Yeah... not so much with the redemption we're thinking.' He knows Leia is his sister, it's been confirmed by Obi-Wan "Your insight serves you well" and so Luke asks her about her real mother... because he wants to know who HIS mother was.

Right, but it was never indicated to us at any point prior to this that Leia herself knew she was adopted, because, of course, Lucas himself didn't decide she was adopted until he was writing Jedi. So I always watched that scene assuming that Leia didn't know that the Organas were not her bio parents, so Luke was talking about their bio mom, but Leia thought he was asking about Mrs. Organa who she would have believed to be her "real mother" at the time.

[bunnyblue]

10 hours ago, Perfect Xero said:

Right, but it was never indicated to us at any point prior to this that Leia herself knew she was adopted, because, of course, Lucas himself didn't decide she was adopted until he was writing Jedi. So I always watched that scene assuming that Leia didn't know that the Organas were not her bio parents, so Luke was talking about their bio mom, but Leia thought he was asking about Mrs. Organa who she would have believed to be her "real mother" at the time.

From the first time I watched ROTJ as a kid, I assumed Leia had confided in Luke (and Han) that she was adopted. They were her closest friends, so it seemed natural that they would know. Especially since Luke quickly figured out Leia was his secret sister, and he wouldn't have been able to make that leap if he hadn't already known she was adopted. And that's also why I never thought there was any confusion on Leia's part when Luke asked her to tell him about her "real mother". But it is pretty funny to think that Leia was describing Mrs. Organa to Luke instead of Padme because she didn't know she was adopted. 

[Zuleikha]

The phrasing implies Leia knew. "real mother" is not a phrase used for one's biological parent (although it's insulting to the adoptive mother--I don't think people were as thoughtful about implications then)

They all "gave up" on life but Padme was under circumstances where it was actually fatal.

No one else gave up on life while they had two newborns to protect. I also don't see how anyone else actually even gave up on life. Han and Leia gave up on their marriage, but they were both still vibrant, active, life-having people, and Leia was still actively fighting to make the universe better. Luke gave up on training new Jedi, but he was still living (and we don't know anything about what he was doing/why he was doing it... maybe we'll find out he's been preparing for someone like Rey to arise).

Padme lost the will to live when she was one of the few people who saw the truth about Palpatine and she had two newborn babies to raise. It is insulting and false to her character to think she would just choose to die because she had to face that Anakin was an abusive a-hole and they were never ever getting back together. Padme as characterized would have raised herself up from her hospital bed and strategized with Obi-Wan about how to hide the twins/herself from Anakin while immediately thinking of how to lead the rebellion against Palpatine. If she had to die in violation of canon, dying in birth or from injuries caused by Anakin would have made much more sense with the character.

[stealinghome]

Agreed. I've always wondered if the intent was to have Padme die from all the trauma her body had undergone, but then at the last minute someone in the studio chickened out because they thought that having Anakin be a wife-murderer would be too much. (They say of a guy who slaughtered a bunch of kids earlier in the movie, but.) So we got that totally awful line to make sure that we all knew Anakin DIDN'T kill his wife--physically, at least.

[benteen]

On ‎9‎/‎30‎/‎2016 at 5:59 PM, Perfect Xero said:

I think the Leia/mother thing is odd because the movies never indicate that she knew she was adopted, so I always assumed that when Luke asks Leia if she remembers her "real mother" Leia's thinking to herself, "Yes, I remember my real Mother, FirstName Organa. What a weird way to phrase that question, must be a Jedi thing."

I was always surprised that most people interpreted that as Leia saying she remembered Padme.

Most people interpreted that way because Luke specifically asked her about her "real mother" which is Padme.  George Lucas confirmed this in the 1997 Star Wars The Annotated Screenplay book in 1997.  He wrote in it that he wanted one of the twins to have a memory of their mother.  But in typical GL form, he retconned himself and had Padme die immediately after she gave birth to her children, making it impossible for Leia to have those memories (unless it's some kind of Force-related thing).  One of the many frustrating things with George Lucas is that he won't hold himself to previously established continuity, even his own.  According to Dave Filoni, supervising director of The Clone Wars whom worked closely with him, GL told him that "continuity is for wimps."  Dave might have been joking but I suspect that he wasn't.

The medical droids tells Obi-Wan, Bail and Yoda in regards to Padme's health "There is nothing medically wrong with her.  She's lost the will to live."  When there's nothing medically wrong with you, you don't just start dying the way she did.  I NEVER thought GL would go with such an old trope and stereotype of a woman dying of a broken heart and he did exactly that.  It made Padme look even more horrible because she apparently couldn't be bothered living for her kids. 

If Anakin and Padme had been "joined" in some way, I could understand it.  If Padme had been seriously injured and the grief over what had happened to Anakin had contributed to her death, I could have bought that.  But being medically fine and then instantly losing the will to live, abandoning your kids in the process?  GL really did a number on her character.

[Morrigan2575]

I never got (or liked) the Padme ending. It is what it is and there's nothing i can do about it but, it always seemed massively stupid to me. 

[Athena]

I remember watching ROTS and thinking, "This movie is not bad and better than the first two prequels." However, the needle scratch was Padme's ending. Lucas could have given Padme something to do other than be pregnant, angsty, and die. She was at least an active politician in the first two movies, but once she got married and pregnant, who cares, right?

[VCRTracking]

There were deleted scenes in ROTS where Padme and other senators discuss Palpatine's rise to power and the early beginnings of the Rebel Alliance(the videos are on YouTube but I don't embed them here if the uploaders don't have the rights to the footage):

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"There is nothing medically wrong with her.  She's lost the will to live."  When there's nothing medically wrong with you, you don't just start dying the way she did.

When a woman gives birth and everything goes well and there are no complications, she can technically be "medically" fine but she's still not going to be doing jumping jacks right away! She's in a very weakened state. She still going to rest and recovery.

Edited October 4, 2016 by VCRTracking

[Joe]

In other news, a trailer for the new TOR expansion. Bioware are very good at their trailers, always worth watching. The thing is, the woman looks a lot like Daisy Ridley to me. Not identical, but similar And uses a lightsabre on a long staff, like people have speculated that Rey will. This probably isn't a coincidence. Bioware cashing in on Ridley's popularity? I would be tempted to play the game if I thought it was as awesome as the trailer suggested.

[AimingforYoko]

Donald Glover is Lando Calrissian.

[absnow54]

I've been so apprehensive about the Han Solo movie, even when they announced that Phil Lord and Chris Miller would be directing, even when they announced Lawrence Kasdan was writing it, even when the Han Solo casting wasn't terrible (I still don't know enough about Alden, so we'll see...), but Donald Glover? I am pumped for this movie now. So pumped.

[Kromm]

7 hours ago, AimingforYoko said:

Donald Glover is Lando Calrissian.

Pass the man a nice cold Colt 45!

[Danny Franks]

I wasn't interested in that movie, because I just don't think Han Solo's back story needs to be expanded on. He's a fully formed character from the moment he first appears. But I'm going to get to see Donald Glover as Lando? Sold.

[DollEyes]

Donald Glover is a great choice for young Lando Calryssian.  As he has shown in both Community and Atlanta, Glover's got the comedic chops, plus he looks like a young Billy Dee Williams. If the script is right, I think Glover can pull it off. 

[thuganomics85]

Daenerys Targayen... err, I mean Emilia Clarke will be appearing in the Han Solo movie.  I'm guessing she won't be bringing her dragons along for this one!

[Joe]

Dragons are a part of the old EU, so it's possible! Killer robots, too.

[feverfew]

Emilia Clarke? As an actress I think she's barely capable (did not like her in Terminator Genisys (or however they spelled that atrocity) and Daenerys bores me half to death)  - and I thought they were looking for WoC for the female lead? Didn't Zoë Kravitz, Tessa Thompson and Naomi Scott test for that role?

Edited November 21, 2016 by feverfew
Forgot the umlaut

[Morrigan2575]

Giod thing, I had no plans to watch this movie. She's not a good actress, IMO

[absnow54]

Emilia Clarke's casting is the first announcement for the Han Solo movie that I didn't care for. Someone posted a side by side head shot of Daisy Ridley, Felicity Jones, and Emilia Clarke with the caption "Attack of the Clones." Add Natalie Portman and Carrie Fisher to the list, and you have a galaxy full of feisty brunettes who may be related to Luke Skywalker, or Luke Skywalker's baby momma. I still have hope that they'll cast Sana Starros, and that Emilia could be the villain or maybe Han's mother in flashback or something.

[benteen]

I like Emilia Clarke but she isn't even a top five actress on Game of Thrones, let alone on the entire show.

Just to confirm, Han was not married with Sana before Princess Leia.  A later issue confirmed that the "wedding" was a ruse they pulled off to get back at someone who was ripping off smugglers.

[absnow54]

Given how iconic Han and Leia are in the Star Wars universe, I doubt the female lead will be pushed as a love interest, which is why Sana seemed like a likely candidate, and the heist they mentioned in the comics may come into play in his origin story.

[Danny Franks]

I have a sneaky feeling she might be a villain. As a person, Emilia Clarke seems lovely, but her work as Daenerys is tiresome (as is that character, to be honest). But one thing I think she does well is play up the villainous qualities of the character. I could see her as a cold hearted femme fatale, playing Han and Lando for fools.

If there is a love interest, then I think she'll be more likely aimed at Lando than Han (after a bit of a love triangle, probably). As pointed out, people may not take so well to him being with anyone who's not Leia.

[ulkis]

I read the Empire Strikes back novelization, and I guess it was written before the film came out, cause this is the carbon freezing scene:

"I love you," she said softly. "I couldn't tell you before, but it's true."

He smiled his familiar cocky smile. "You just remember that, because I'll be back." Then his face grew tender and he kissed her gently on the forehead.

Not quite the same punch, heh.

Edited December 14, 2016 by ulkis