Morning Joe: All Episodes Talk

[oakville]

The focus of the show today is on the Electoral College.  Biden won 306-232.

Everyone is mad at Trump for not conceding to Biden & launching frivolous lawsuits.

Kasie reported on Republican Senators accepting the results of the election.

Joe knows Lindsay Graham well. He said that if Biden invited him to sleep in the Lincoln Bedroom, he would agree.

Joe said that Biden should thank Trump for all the chaos he has caused because no one is paying attention to Biden's cabinet picks.

Joe said that some progressives are upset at Biden for not picking them to be in his cabinet.

Mika stumbled over the word compromise while reading the TelePrompter.

Morning Joe showed an extended clip of Biden's speech. They may be forced to cover more of his speeches after Biden becomes President.

 

 

 

 

[plumbago blues]

1 hour ago, Eliot said:

It was actually Max Rose who made that joke, about himself. I like him.

Thanks for clarifying. I like him some, too, and I'm pleased he was able to bring on a little humor. Coming from him it's genuine. Coming from Joe, not so much.

[oakville]

Joe mocked the Never Trumpers on cable news that supported Trump after he was elected President.

Joe is mad at people making money off supporting Trump. He should look in the mirror because he & Mika have made money attacking Trump.

Joe said that he was always against Trump & compared him to Hitler in December 2015.

I guess Joe forgot all the shows he taped joking with Trump in 2016.

 

[oakville]

At 7 am, there was a technical glitch. Joe kept asking Mika to read the TelePrompter , but she didn't. Joe said Mika are you there?

She looked over at him with a puzzled look.

Heilemann is featured in front of a lovely fireplace. 

Heilemann joked about Mika being stoned.

[Kemper]

2 hours ago, neona said:

High-lemann is on!!! finally!!! welcome back baby, we missed you and your beautiful bald head. 

I must admit I find him attractive.  It is his snark and humor that do it for me.  I would love to hear him regaling his friends about Joe...anyone think that maybe he does?

[oakville]

Willie introduced Karine Jean Pierre as the Deputy Press Secretary.  There were more technical glitches. The camera went to Mika but she was looking down and biting her lip. She couldn't be heard. Joe disappeared from the show. He probably unplugged the sound chord when he left the breakfast nook.

Mika returned. Mika congratulated Karine & clapped.

[meowmommy]

2 hours ago, oakville said:

Joe mocked the Never Trumpers on cable news that supported Trump after he was elected President.

Joe is mad at people making money off supporting Trump. He should look in the mirror because he & Mika have made money attacking Trump.

Joe said that he was always against Trump & compared him to Hitler in December 2015.

I guess Joe forgot all the shows he taped joking with Trump in 2016.

That was a really bizarre speech by Joe.  Most former Republicans have at least a shred of self-awareness, but not Joe (was Mika ever a Republican?).  I can't think of any neverTrumpers who supported 45 after he was elected, because they wouldn't be neverTrumpers, but I sure can think of two people who gladly rode the bandwagon and only jumped off when they got dissed at a New Year's Eve party. 

I have trouble reconciling Clueless Joe I see on TV with Say it Ain't so Joe who very often writes coherent, reasoned op-eds in WaPo.

1 hour ago, Kemper said:

I must admit I find him attractive.  It is his snark and humor that do it for me.

I do, too, although he's just a young'un. 

[neona]

1 hour ago, Kemper said:

I must admit I find him attractive.  It is his snark and humor that do it for me.  I would love to hear him regaling his friends about Joe...anyone think that maybe he does?

yeah, also I think he has a kind personality. He trolls the audience but it's fun trolling with like pineapples and giant dogs that look like wolves. and he definitely throws shade at Joe and Mika but I think it's affectionate shade, heh.

1 hour ago, oakville said:

Willie introduced Karine Jean Pierre as the Deputy Press Secretary.

sooo Karine would be... Will Bailey or Kristin Chenoweth? don't laugh, I honestly find the West Wing a better frame of reference bc in the current WH the lines are all blurred and their are weird positions like Peace Envoy Who Read 26 Books and Press Secretaries who Hide in Bushes...   

[Eliot]

3 hours ago, Kemper said:

I must admit I find him attractive.  It is his snark and humor that do it for me.  I would love to hear him regaling his friends about Joe...anyone think that maybe he does?

I do too, but his prior association with skeevy Halperin gives me some pause...

[Kemper]

2 hours ago, meowmommy said:

That was a really bizarre speech by Joe.  Most former Republicans have at least a shred of self-awareness, but not Joe (was Mika ever a Republican?).  I can't think of any neverTrumpers who supported 45 after he was elected, because they wouldn't be neverTrumpers, but I sure can think of two people who gladly rode the bandwagon and only jumped off when they got dissed at a New Year's Eve party. 

I have trouble reconciling Clueless Joe I see on TV with Say it Ain't so Joe who very often writes coherent, reasoned op-eds in WaPo.

I do, too, although he's just a young'un. 

As Erma Bombeck used to say ... "I have cookie sheets older than him" ... almost.

[neona]

He's like fifty?! Guys, throw out your cookie sheets so you don't get lead poisoning. or tuberculosis. 🤪

47 minutes ago, Eliot said:

I do too, but his prior association with skeevy Halperin gives me some pause...

i wonder what he must think of Halperin's newsmax gig? like why not just work at McDonald's or something, that would at least be a respectable and honorable job... imagine craving publicity that much. 

[oakville]

Mika informed Karine Jean Pierre that she would post her interview with her from November 2019 on the front page of Know Your Value.com

It is a very prestigious honor.

https://www.nbcnews.com/know-your-value/feature/karine-jean-pierre-how-i-overcame-self-doubt-found-resilience-ncna1078276

[plumbago blues]

2 hours ago, neona said:

like why not just work at McDonald's or something, that would at least be a respectable and honorable job... imagine craving publicity that much. 

I think he tried. I posted info on Small Talk.

I saw Ratner on MJ this morning. Seems to have aged quite a bit since I last saw him. I wonder if he will join so many others from the Obama years in the new administration.

[neona]

its so funny how this show is basically like a Swiss train station when Joe isn't there...it's like tick tock, the trains run on time! *brisk waving of green flags*. bring your skis. I always miss Joe tho because it tends to feel rushed and perfunctory, and there are no unexpected turns, heh. But on the plus side it's amazing how much ground is covered and how much information we actually get...

ETA: omg Adrienne!!!! I missed her. i don't think she did a lot of media during the campaign?

Edited December 16, 2020 by neona

[oakville]

Mika struggled reading  the word nominate. At 6:19 am , she said that Trump would dominate former Governor Jennifer Granholm. This is inappropriate.

They should move the TelePrompter closer to her , so she can read it properly.

[plumbago blues]

Adrienne was able to broadcast from a closet because those LED level white teeth lit up the space. Jeesh. I'm glad my retired dentist husband didn't see that...she'd have heard his reaction all the way from TX.

[neona]

i'll take any light right now tbh, even the LED kind. adrienne is lovely. I literally had a pavlovian reaction of spontaneous smiling every time she said the word "inauguration".

I hope there will also be zoom inaugural balls?? I volunteer to do the macarena in my pajamas. 

this discussion with Errin and Ibram Kendi is fascinating. Though I think Joe is subtweeting his own show: https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/1339163836507688962

I think it's an important point they made that this is so much about language, and misconceptions, and spin, and labels that are inaccurate and unfair... It distracts from a nuanced conversation of policies and a factual examination of what people *actually* think...

 

Edited December 16, 2020 by neona

[oakville]

1 hour ago, plumbago blues said:

Adrienne was able to broadcast from a closet because those LED level white teeth lit up the space. Jeesh. I'm glad my retired dentist husband didn't see that...she'd have heard his reaction all the way from TX.

I think Mika scheduled for Adrienne to be on today because she knew Joe would be off today. Adrienne used to always chirp, "You are so right , Joe", when she spoke to Joe. Mika knows that those words arouse Joe. Adrienne is a younger version of Mika who will have better political ties to the Biden administration.

[neona]

weeeelll except they have totally different jobs and totally different personalities. women aren't the same just bc they have the same hair color.  

Can someone explain the logic behind the segment they did on Biden "not jumping the line" on vaccinations? wtf? I get wanting to set an example in terms of fairness but isn't this a matter of national security? he's 80 years old! he needs to stay alive!

For the love of god, stop being so fucking polite, and take the vaccine so you can safely go into a hospital and physically hold the hands of people who are suffering...*that's* the job. Not virtue signaling. Gaaaaaah.

[Crashcourse]

Adrienne Elrod has this "barking" sound to her voice, bless her heart, so I can't stand to listen to her.

[plumbago blues]

I happened to see a kind of weird segment about Mar A Lago neighbors threatening to sue (I guess) Trump or the resort for allowing him to live there after his presidency. Mika's DA friend was called into action to explain it. Maybe it's a thing but it seemed like a  petty time- waster/filler segment. Certainly there is enough real news out there that can be discussed. I just don't get their inability to move on from the constant focus on hating Trump all the time. (I wonder if there is some obscure clause in the Scarbro's HOA about broadcasting a TV show from their kitchen. Maybe there's a Gladys Kravitz in the neighborhood who could start a protest.)

[Pearson80]

On 12/14/2020 at 11:06 PM, oakville said:

Joe loves taking cheap shots at Democrats. I don't recall many Democrats in Congress & the Senate claiming that George W Bush was involved in planning or supporting the  9/11 terrorist attacks.

Joe is such an ass and yet there are times when he gets it right.. 

On 12/14/2020 at 11:18 PM, oakville said:

Donny blasted Democrats for suporting socialism. Donny is opposed to higher taxes on wealthy people.

 

Shut up Donnie, he is another ass that pisses me off..

Edited December 17, 2020 by Pearson80

[neona]

why why whyyyyyy does the yelling always happen in the 6 am hour???? why can't it wait till like 7.30?? do they really hate us that much? it *sucks* to get up at 6 am, trust me, it's not voluntary, and they aren't making it easier *cries*. I literally wanna curl up into a fetal position

[nittany cougar]

Joe is really pissed at Rand Paul for holding a hearing about election fraud.  He yelled into the camera and called Rand "crazy as hell."  Joe said that Rand is undermining American democracy.  To me Joe, Joe looks miserable.  

Mika interviewed Jennifer of the Lincoln Project. Why the fuck is this show promoting the Lincoln Project.  They already made millions.  The main takeaway from Jen is everyone from LP is rich as hell.  They all have luxury homes.

Joe said he has dedicated his whole adult life to the Republicans Party.  So they should do what Joe says?  Joe's time in Congress was a lifetime ago but Joe doesn't realize it.  Joe thinks that the current Republicans listen to him. 

Mika stuck her boobs out and preened at herself in the monitor while pretending to care what Joe said.

Edited December 17, 2020 by nittany cougar

[neona]

I miss when this show used to just assume the audience were smart and able to follow fast-paced conversations...rather than scowling at them and yelling at them like we're dimwits... we're not. we're really not. Gaaaaah,  

[Eliot]

Mika just pronounced “Ontario” three different ways in 90 seconds. None was correct.

[oakville]

Joe should stop shouting at the camera early in the morning.

[cased]

3 hours ago, neona said:

why why whyyyyyy does the yelling always happen in the 6 am hour???? why can't it wait till like 7.30?? do they really hate us that much? it *sucks* to get up at 6 am, trust me, it's not voluntary, and they aren't making it easier *cries*. I literally wanna curl up into a fetal position

Imagine what it’s like for those of us on the west coast. 

[oakville]

Joe was upset that Trump won more Hispanic votes throughout the country. He demanded to know why Hispanics weren't upset with Trump throwing paper towels at Puerto Ricans & put kids in cages.

Victorio De Soto tried to explain to Joe about the Republican ground game in Florida & Texas. They also introduced some economic iniatives in the summer for hispanic businesses.

Victoria reminded Joe that not all Hispanics view immigration as a top priority.

[meowmommy]

1 hour ago, cased said:

Imagine what it’s like for those of us on the west coast. 

OTOH, there have been nights when I couldn't sleep, and turning on MJ at 3 or 4 am has helped me nod right off...

[Eliot]

I wanted to reach through my TV set and slap the shit out of Barnicle this morning. He was delivering both-sidesism at its finest while bemoaning the supposed "indifference" of *both sides* to the suffering of Americans.

The Dems in the House passed a relief bill back in MAY. They passed another, scaled-down version a few months later. They've been negotiating all along with the White House on a package the president might find acceptable. There is ONE SIDE that has refused to bring anything up for a vote, Barnicle. This is not political opinion; this is established fact.

I am so weary of the tired, cliched, lazy intellectualizing of people like Barnicle, Chuck Todd, Andrea Mitchell, and all the rest of them. Do a little actual reporting and you will quickly see what's what.

[oakville]

3 hours ago, Eliot said:

Mika just pronounced “Ontario” three different ways in 90 seconds. None was correct.

As a resident of Ontario, I was stunned by Mika's lack of knowledge on how to pronounce the name of  our province. It's Ohn-ta-rio.

Mika mentioned the Thanksgiving Holiday as a possible cause of the urge. We celebrated Thanksgiving on October 12th !

Mika should be embarrassed that she also couldn't pronounce Deputy-Premier properly. What's wrong with her?

Joe was absent from the interview.

[oakville]

Joe ended the show with a tribute to the late Congressman Earl Hutto who represented Pensacola before Joe was elected. Joe said he grew up in several states such a Mississippi,Alabama ,Georgia & Florida. Earl was the first politician that Joe met. He was the George Bailey of Pensacola & strongly supported Jesus Christ. He served on the armed services committee. He listened to Joe.

Earle told Joe that he had to choose between his family & going on all the foreign trips when he was in Congress.

Earl warned Joe about campaigning all across the country because it would take away from time with family .

Joe learned his lesson & divorced his first wife before he left Congress.

 

[neona]

7 hours ago, cased said:

Imagine what it’s like for those of us on the west coast. 

The worst part is that it's a new thing they started this year...during the pandemic...like they sat down and thought how can we make people's lives better?? let's have Joe's magnified face regularly yell at them!!! aaaaah

Despite the yelling i gotta give Joe credit for that last segment with Masha and Anne Appelbaum, that was incredibly interesting and he moderated the discussion really well.

Anand is still trapped in the Shanghai brothel!! at least that explains the something about mary hair. I loved his "advance copy of our autopsy" line - so accurate...institutions have held but like a termite-ridden house...still standing but ummm not exactly stable. 

[freddi]

“Mika is off looking for that elusive interview with Fidel Castro,” said Joe.  

Later, Joe:  “Let me put the grass down there where the goats will eat it.”  [to Tommy Tuberville]. ???  “That’s what Bear Bryant would call ‘bad form’.  I don’t know if Bear Bryant used that term, but that’s what he would say.”  

Okay, Joe.  

Edited December 18, 2020 by freddi

[freddi]

Joe, about past examples of rumors about government institutions:

”Back in Sunday School, you’d hear rumors about George Bush sending cocaine to Iraq.”

Elise Jordan, “ Your Sunday School was way more hip than mine.” 

Edited December 18, 2020 by freddi

[neona]

I'm just traumatized by hearing him repeatedly shouting the words "small penis" over and over in the 6 am hour. LMAO what even. Mika you can't leave him unsupervised!!

at least we were blessed with the great Katty Kay for three whole hours.... and that Mike Memoli report on Biden was incredibly moving.

[oakville]

Friday Recap.

Mika is off trying to locate Fidel Castro for an interview.

Joe is joking about Republicans using Hugo Chavez & Fidel Castro against Democrats in Georgia.

Joe forgot that in the most recent election, he applauded the GOP for denouncing communism because it attracted voters from Cuba , Venezuela & Nicaragua. The Democrats did much worse with Hispanic voters in Florida in 2020.

Turnout is very high for the Georgia Senate race.

Heilemann said that it is unlikely that Democrats will win both Senate seats.

Joe said that the Republicans are depressing turnout with a civil war.

Joe said Democrats should thank Donald trump for giving them a chance in Georgia.

Joe admitted that Trump being on the ballot helps Republicans.

Joe had to change his talking points from the pat 4 years that Trump will doom lower ballot Republicans after they picked up seats in the House & held Senate seats.

Joe mocked Senator Tommy Tuberville for trying to stage a coup. He is from Alabama.

 

 

[neona]

On 12/17/2020 at 11:23 AM, neona said:

why why whyyyyyy does the yelling always happen in the 6 am hour???? why can't it wait till like 7.30?? do they really hate us that much?

just quoting myself from Thursday morning to point out I looked on Showbuzz and Thursday was also their lowest rated day last week... so at least we know it's not just us being hysterical...for the collective sanity of viewers I wish they would stop the pompous Old Man Yells at Cloud stuff and bring back the fun irreverent version of Joe... 

oh and Tuesday was really good!! which of course we must attribute to the long awaited return of his High-ness High-lemann 

[oakville]

Monday mini recap. Lemire took over from Kasie !

Joe is upset that Trump didn't blame Russia for the cyber attack on the USA. Joe is happy that Pompeo blamed Russia. Trump said it could be China.

Lemire is shocked that Trump is still supporting Russia. The Biden administration may punish Russia

Joe is wearing a beautiful dark blue blazer with purple squares.

Joe can't believe that Trump turned a blind eye to Russia putting bounties on US troops.

General Flynn supports martial law to overturn the election results. This would be bad.

Mika doesn't want Sidney Powell to be a special counsel. She is a conspiracy theorist. She will not be featured on KYV.

Mika stumbled over the words special correspondent .

 

[oakville]

Michael Schmdit was a guest. He said that Trump loyalists like Ken Cuccinelli & Mark Meadows are preventing Trump from invoking martial law.

[oakville]

Mika's brother , Mark was a special guest. He was broadcasting from the dining room. Mark doesn't know why Trump is afraid of Putin.

Joe said the Obama & Bush administrations under estimated Vladimir Putin. Joe said he warned both administrations about Putin.

 

[oakville]

Joe is mad at Trumpist media for not denouncing Trump's coup attempts. Joe is opposed to coups.

Joe wants a Barry Goldwater type to tell Trump to stop listening to sycophants.

Joe wants the cabinet to use the 25th amendment to remove Trump from office on a temporary basis.

Joe mocked his arch enemy Senator Marco Rubio for not denouncing Trump & being offended by f- bombs by Jennifer O Malley.

 

[oakville]

Donny Deutsh showed up wearing a suit & tie from his dining room table. Donnie admitted that wearing a baby Gap T shirt was poor branding to show gravitas.

Donnie said there was a Fox poll showing 50% of voters felt that Trump was an average President. Donnie is mad at Americans that support Trump. Donnie blamed racism . People are worried about whites becoming a minority in 2040.

[oakville]

Donnie wants a $500 million advertising campaign featuring influencers urging people to get the vaccine. CVS heath said that doctors & pharmacists will encourage people to take the vaccine.

Mika is upset that people in the White House are getting the vaccine but supported super spreader events.

Mika endorsed the Filter playlist. Filter has some exclusive tracks from Joe's latest album.

Edited December 21, 2020 by oakville

[oakville]

Mika wants people to nominate a woman over 50 for the Forbes KYV partnership.

Mika reported on Alex Moffat taking over Joe Biden' role on SNL.

[meowmommy]

1 hour ago, oakville said:

Donnie wants a $500 million advertising campaign featuring influencers urging people to get the vaccine. CVS heath said that doctors & pharmacists will encourage people to take the vaccine.

Of course he does.  Marketing over substance.  I'm of the mindset that if you're so stupid that you don't want the vaccine, fine.  The sooner I get mine.

I found it painfully obvious this morning that Mika doesn't have a single nonscripted thought in her head.  Everything that comes out of her mouth comes from the teleprompter.  And that Joe doesn't know how to hold a conversation.  It's really uncomfortable watching four guests sitting, staring blankly into the camera, waiting and waiting and waiting for Joe to finish his convoluted bloviation without an actual question attached to it.  They're then somehow supposed to come up with something cogent in response.

Jonathan Lemire looked like he hadn't slept in about a month.

[neona]

9 minutes ago, meowmommy said:

Of course he does.  Marketing over substance.  I'm of the mindset that if you're so stupid that you don't want the vaccine, fine.  The sooner I get mine.

it's not just stupid people, though. It's vulnerable members of communities whose skepticism is born out of actual historical discrimination rather than stupidity. https://theappeal.org/confront-and-remedy-the-black-communitys-covid-19-vaccine-skepticism/

I gotta say I sometimes find Donny's comments a bit bland but he was on point today. He and Yamiche, calling a spade a spade...

4 hours ago, oakville said:

Monday mini recap. Lemire took over from Kasie !

 

this freaked me out!! He was sitting in front of Kasie's backdrop! after hauling his ass across the country and staying in weirdly decorated hotels, i am now convinced he is sleeping on a bamboo mat in Kasie's laundry room... and doubling as a night nurse for Kasie's badass Roman war god baby.

[Crashcourse]

43 minutes ago, meowmommy said:

Of course he does.  Marketing over substance.  I'm of the mindset that if you're so stupid that you don't want the vaccine, fine.  The sooner I get mine.

I get my flu shots regularly; however, I can understand people questioning the efficacy, safety and side effects of a brand new vaccine.  That doesn't mean that people like myself won't get the vaccine (I will), but I wouldn't call people "stupid" for having some reservations, even though I would hope that they eventually get the vaccine.  

[Kemper]

23 minutes ago, neona said:

I gotta say I sometimes find Donny's comments a bit bland but he was on point today. He and Yamiche, calling a spade a spade...

 

Donnie was truly "schooled" on ...maybe Nicole's show on Friday.  He started that "branding" thing; and he stated that once Biden was installed as President, most of the people making all the noise will settle down and we will start getting back to normal.  Jason Johnson was on and truly laid things out on how wrong Donnie was.  It was epic. And yes, Donnie D is sometimes a strutting peacock who gets under my skin.  But there are other times when he is on point.  I am sure he Knows His Business because he is rich rich rich.  And is on the teevee.  But he comes across, at least to me, as mostly style over substance.  Then again, I have never had to worry about branding.  I would love to see an off-the-cuff, honest, no-holds barred discussion like this on MJ; but Joe would never allow it.  And some of the sycophants that are regulars would never engage.

meowmommy - you were "so right" (I am Jonathan Lemire) in your description of what Branding has wrought.