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The Storybrooke Daily Mirror: OUaT in the Media, Cons and Other Real Life Encounters


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I guess in a way, at least someone called A&E out (poor Michael Socha). But this is normal in TV and film. Sorry to say, Amy Manson seems to have borrowed some traits of Merida in her "hit first ask questions later" policy. Even Chrisopher Lee had scenes cut in LotR Two Towers. hehheh

What's puzzling is that Amy knows she's supposed to come back. They obviously cut the scene because they've decided not to say goodbye to the characters yet, which could be good for the actors. Wake up Amy!

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What's puzzling is that Amy knows she's supposed to come back. They obviously cut the scene because they've decided not to say goodbye to the characters yet, which could be good for the actors. Wake up Amy!

 

Maybe they are just going to use the material they filmed for this episode. In that case, she won't be physically coming back to shoot more scenes.

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That's what happens when one fandom gets a sex scene, and the other is forced to do Operation Mongoose.

That's why I think SQ moved up. They had stuff to work with on a weekly basis all throughout 4b.

Although during my tumblr lurking I've noticed the CS fandom doesn't seem as ambitious in their reblogging/notes challenges (like 10k by next episode) this year. Haven't seen too many floating around. I suppose those get tedious. Your slacking, CS fandom!!! Lol.

So tempted to join tumblr, but I can't make gifs, and twitter and these forums already consume too much of my time.

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sharky, on 07 Dec 2015 - 11:10 AM, said:

To be fair, the SQ fandom seems to be imploding on the tumblr posts I saw so this may be par for the course this hiatus.

If so, it's long overdue! SQ isn't even subtext. It's a bloody fever dream! It never ever should've been a thing in the first place. I'd love to point and laugh, but that just makes the Mods cranky (Hi, Mods!).

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Yeah, we should be so lucky. I just wish they'd stop with the lies, hypocrisy, and willful disregard for the story (such as it is) that's being told. These are people who are trying actually trying to claim the moral high ground, as if Hook was worse than Regina! I'm like: Are you fcking for real?!?

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Damn she wrote a whole article on them. I feel like Lana's called them sisters before so its not the first time either actress has made it clear that its platonic. Its the fans who will continue to see what they want or make something up like Lana was forced to say it or whatever.

Whatever Frozen Swan is still far superior.

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Oh, I'll just bet they are!

It's finally their favorite that is not saying what they want to hear this time. She usually gets a pass while they go after Jennifer who has been shutting down swan queen for awhile and being labeled a problematic homophobe for it. Edited by Stuffy
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That's one of the things I hate most about SQ. If you're not for it, then that supposedly makes you a homophobe. Never mind that you object to it in part because Regina tells Emma stuff like "you eat like a child," or "you're stupid," while Hook tells her stuff like: "I am a fan of every part of you" and "I have yet to see you fail." Next, you can add to that the fact that Regina's an unrepentant murderer who's just relentlessly negative and awful. I see SQ as disgusting not because it involves two women, but because one of them is Regina.

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From the Voice of TV article:

 

 

While the writers had a chance to add more layers to her character, make her truly delve into her darkness and then having to pay the price for her crimes, having to fight like Regina did to get redemption, they chose to do... nothing and make her even more one-dimensional.

 

Emma becoming "even more" one-dimensional?  "Fight like Regina" to get "redemption"?  Talk about biased, yet writing as if they were representing all fans.

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I don't think they wrote like they were representing all fans, I think that article was pretty spot on.

The writers did mess up Emma's 'dark one' arc. They did concentrate on her least interesting relationship in Hook, pretty much forgetting about her family.

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The writers did mess up Emma's 'dark one' arc. They did concentrate on her least interesting relationship in Hook, pretty much forgetting about her family.

I think her relationships with Henry and Regina are less interesting than with Hook, but yeah, they once AGAIN screwed over any relationship development between her and her parents, even when this would be one of the most obvious arcs for that to happen in. It was frustrating.

Emma becoming "even more" one-dimensional? "Fight like Regina" to get "redemption"? Talk about biased, yet writing as if they were representing all fans.

Also, saying it could have been the best half-season since 3B...really? 3B, and not 4A?

Oh wait, 3B was Regina-centric while 4A sidelined her frequently. My mistake./sarcasm

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I think that the argument that the Dark Swan arc was not as well done as it could have been is a fine one to make. Where the writer shows their bias is when they run down the character and not the arc. It's very clear that the writer does not like Emma by their inclusion of the opinion that it made her "even more one-dimensional" It's a valid opinion, but the bias is going to be strong if you don't like the character that the arc is centered on.  

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Emma becoming "even more" one-dimensional? "Fight like Regina" to get "redemption"? Talk about biased, yet writing as if they were representing all fans.

More and more often I see people confuse "fighting" with "time" and "victimization" when it comes to Regina. It's not that she worked hard to redeem herself for more than 5 minutes, but that she endured (I use that word loosely) a lot of pain she herself caused. Regina has gone through a lot of crap, yes, but it's almost always her own fault. I absolutely wouldn't say she's been through more than Emma. In contrast, Emma's problems were mostly caused by others controlling her life. Regina was also screwed by people in her childhood and adolescence, but after that it was all her.

 

Making lasagna and having second thoughts about murder is not "fighting" to me. Xena would flip tables if she saw how easily Regina was accepted.

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People really wanted Emma to go around murdering people that bad so she can have a half ass redemption arc like Regina or whatever they are doing to Rumple? I think Emma ripping out the heart of a child was pretty dark. She might've not killed the kid like the other villains but Purple looked scared of Emma to me. The only person Emma honestly need to apologize to is her and Hook I guess.

 

I do agree that the writers messed up with making her parents the least interesting parts about the story when it should've been one of the most interesting ones. How long will it take for these writers to go back to that dynamic where it's both David and Snow?

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Ouch! Tv fanatic really thinks Once is the worst show on tv? That seems really extreme. Granted, no one liked the Zelena pregnancy storyline which is obviously why her pregnancy was accelerated and she was shipped off to Oz but by leaving the baby in Storybrooke she has a reason to return which wi no doubt mean Zelena's hanging around like it or not.

As for tv blunders, yes the Zelena arc is unforgivable and I didn't love Jmo's acting decisions with Dark Swan but honestly what's happened on Castle this season should rank higher as far as blunders go.

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yeah I'm not really paying too much attention to that TV Fanatics article as there's another article on the same website that includes Jmo in a list of praiseworthy performances from 2015!  

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The Hook haters who haven't already had an aneurysm certainly will now.

#OnceUponAHook is in full force! :P

 

As much as I hate the Apple of Irrelevance, they did a much better job on this poster than they have in the past. The flames are pretty even if they're stock and the details on Hook's face are intricate. I do wonder why the apple isn't burnt to a crisp, but I guess it's better than the moldy one from 4A. Minus the poor marketing logic, this poster is actually pleasant to look at.

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#OnceUponAHook is in full force! :P

 

As much as I hate the Apple of Irrelevance, they did a much better job on this poster than they have in the past. The flames are pretty even if they're stock and the details on Hook's face are intricate. I do wonder why the apple isn't burnt to a crisp, but I guess it's better than the moldy one from 4A. Minus the poor marketing logic, this poster is actually pleasant to look at.

 

Yes, the face is very pleasant to look at. 

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I know what I hate, and I don't hate this. :) It's not bad really.

 

The apple motif is stale, but that poster is likely to be hanging in ABC's Times Square Studios (at least the Dark Swan was). I know those piercing blue eyes would make me give it a second glance. If it draws any new viewers, it will have done its job.

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Did you notice that under Hook's nose in the apple is a picture of Hook and Emma's hug from Camelot when she healed him? If you look closely you can see his hand on her cloak. A poster I finally like.

Huh? I feel like I'm looking at a different picture. All I see is the reflection of the stem and some flames.

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Look closer. Right under the stem you can see his hand with a ring on the finger and her hair. As the photo swoops into the apple top you see him in black and her in her Camelot white dress. Their faces are obscured by the curves of the Apple but you can see his hand and her hair clearly and the contrast of their black and white outfits.

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I think he also mentioned that for some acting gigs, the make-up people cover up the scar so you can't see it, but either he or A&E decided to leave it exposed to make him look like a more believable pirate.

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