Erika Girardi/Erika Jayne: Let them eat cake

[snarts]

This article about it makes her sound like poor sport (& liar). 

"Although Jayne said "DWTS" was "an incredible experience," she left the scene quickly, avoiding most of the traditional post-show press line interviews."

[HunterHunted]

10 hours ago, LizDC said:

I wasn't surprised she got booted off.  She wasnt that great of a dancer even though her best dance was tonight. And she didn't display any charm or warmth which she needed to do if she wanted people to vote for her.

 

7 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

I will say this Erika got a big reality check she said she wanted to do it her way and keep the sexy in and when she realized she wasn't connecting with the audience, she put some clothes on and wasn't in the cellar score wise.  It also made me wonder if maybe the connection her audience is making are her male back up dancers?  Too little, too late but she most know now her in your face sexy has limited appeal.  I also wonder if her behavior on RHOBH show hurt her popularity? 

She wasn't really warm or charming. She was often stiff. Additionally, she has such a limited view of how to express the sexuality of an empowered woman.

What she doesn't get about Madonna is that some of the time Madonna is the object and some of the time Madonna's the objectifier in her videos. In the Express Yourself video, she's referencing Fritz Lang's Metropolis. She's covered up for most of the video. It's clear that she's an upper class woman who is objectifying the proletariat male shirtless factory workers. In the end of the video, she picks a worker to be with. When Erika danced to Express Yourself, she wore one of her Erika Jayne bodysuits that had lighter colored fabric over her boobs, crotch, and butt to highlight them.

 She, as a performer, doesn't seem to understand sexuality that isn't nakey-nake-naked.

[zoeysmom]

6 minutes ago, snarts said:

This article about it makes her sound like poor sport (& liar). 

"Although Jayne said "DWTS" was "an incredible experience," she left the scene quickly, avoiding most of the traditional post-show press line interviews."

FOX News had been giving Erika a lot of press as has Bravo and the NY talk shows after appearing on DWTS.  She did one article for People and it sounded as if it would be continuing thing and then it wasn't.  When LVP was on her even shorter lived tenure on DWTS it became part of the storyline for next year and a reason for Brandi to go after her for taking Scheana to the dance.  Sadly, Erika only had Soapy and Sudsy in attendance for the premiere.  She hinted at more RH attending but once again took it too far and claimed they would have be separated because they couldn't get along.  (Jackass throw away comment.)  If you want people to support you-don't insult them.  http://www.gossipcop.com/erika-jayne-dancing-with-the-stars-elimination-interview-gma-video-watch/  Another little slap at the RH. 

[thefog]

8 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

 I also wonder if her behavior on RHOBH show hurt her popularity? 

With the exception of Lisa Rinna who made it to the semi-finals, "Housewives" traditionally have not fared well on DWTS.  Erika did better than LVP - who was kicked off in the 2nd week.

Lisa Rinna - 4th (before she was RHOBH)

Ne-Ne Leakes - 7th
Erika Girardi - 8th
Kim Fields - 8th
Lisa Vander Pump - 10th
Kim Zolciack - 11th (force to withdraw due to illness)

Edited April 18, 2017 by escape

[zoeysmom]

5 minutes ago, escape said:

With the exception of Lisa Rinna who made it to the semi-finals, "Housewives" traditionally have not fared well on DWTS.  Erika did better than LVP - who was kicked off in the 2nd week.

Lisa Rinna - 4th (before she was RHOBH)

Ne-Ne Leakes - 7th
Erika Girardi - 8th
Kim Fields - 8th
Lisa Vander Pump - 10th
Kim Zolciack - 11th (force to withdraw due to illness)

Joanna Krupa also placed fourth before she was on RHOM.  Rinna was on twice the first time she placed 7th.  What's up with Rinna and doing competitive reality shows twice?

[Wings]

1 minute ago, zoeysmom said:

What's up with Rinna and doing competitive reality shows twice?

She has said she will do anything for money and that included a commercial for Depends!  

[KungFuBunny]

13 minutes ago, escape said:

With the exception of Lisa Rinna who made it to the semi-finals, "Housewives" traditionally have not fared well on DWTS.  Erika did better than LVP - who was kicked off in the 2nd week.

Lisa Rinna - 4th (before she was RHOBH)

Ne-Ne Leakes - 7th
Erika Girardi - 8th
Kim Fields - 8th
Lisa Vander Pump - 10th
Kim Zolciack - 11th (force to withdraw due to illness)

I think the problem with the housewives as a whole is they don't have the publicity machine behind them as much as the other "celebrities". Take an athlete that just medalled in the Olympics or an NFL player or Baseball Player. They have big sponsors and PR firms behind them. The viewership for a sports event surpasses any RH show. The amount of fans LVP has she should have done the best - but her million+ followers on twitter is nothing compared to an athletes.

I knew Erika would never make it to the finals, I just wanted her to beat Nene. Damn that Moose is clomping around with glee today. Erika said on GMA this morning that she thinks of all the HWs on BH she thinks Kyle would fare the best. She also hopes that Kenya from ATL does DWTS next.

[AndySmith]

I'm surprised Nene did better than Kim Fields.

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She has said she will do anything for money and that included a commercial for Depends!  

Yeah but she won't dive with the stars...even Rinna has her limits.

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Another little slap at the RH. 

“It’s two completely different things. First off, everyone on ‘Dancing With The Stars’ is very nice and very warm and very sweet,” she joked.

I guess she should have said it with a faux-British accent, and maybe thrown in a "dahling!" at the end...

Edited April 18, 2017 by AndySmith

[WireWrap]

9 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Good grief for someone who claims she doesn't cry she was crying again tonight practicing for her dance.  It seems Erika cries when she doesn't get her way.  https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=erika+jayne+dancing+with+the+stars&view=detail&mid=BADA217570FDFDEF5825BADA217570FDFDEF5825&FORM=VIRE I can see why she resented her mom's critique's of her-she is just very, very average in her dance talent.  Money can't buy you talent. 

I will say this Erika got a big reality check she said she wanted to do it her way and keep the sexy in and when she realized she wasn't connecting with the audience, she put some clothes on and wasn't in the cellar score wise.  It also made me wonder if maybe the connection her audience is making are her male back up dancers?  Too little, too late but she most know now her in your face sexy has limited appeal.  I also wonder if her behavior on RHOBH show hurt her popularity? 

Her music audience is mostly made up of gay men so they aren't "connecting" with Erika J, they are connecting with her gyrating male dancers! How is it that she didn't/doesn't realize that?

1 hour ago, escape said:

With the exception of Lisa Rinna who made it to the semi-finals, "Housewives" traditionally have not fared well on DWTS.  Erika did better than LVP - who was kicked off in the 2nd week.

Lisa Rinna - 4th (before she was RHOBH)

Ne-Ne Leakes - 7th
Erika Girardi - 8th
Kim Fields - 8th
Lisa Vander Pump - 10th
Kim Zolciack - 11th (force to withdraw due to illness)

LisaV also withdrew, she was not voted off.

[zoeysmom]

29 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

Her music audience is mostly made up of gay men so they aren't "connecting" with Erika J, they are connecting with her gyrating male dancers! How is it that she didn't/doesn't realize that?

LisaV also withdrew, she was not voted off.

That is what I think she failed to realize even though Mikey makes it fairly obvious.  I had to laugh at Lara Spencer asking her if Gleb would be choreographing Erika's next video.  I strongly advise Gleb to get into the witness protection program.  Mikey will hunt Gleb down an inviscerate him before he gives up his golden goose Erika.

LVP went home by vote.  She did the opposite of Kim Z.  she was working hurt and instead of withdrawing she powered through.  I believe by not dropping out LVP left the door open for other RHs.  http://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/dancing-with-the-stars-most-horrific-celebrity-injuries.html/?a=viewall She had a viral infection and swollen glands that caused low blood pressure.  What LVP did was manage to get ABC to cast a RH when they had said they weren't interested in RH and LVP was able to turn the tide.  I thought it noble of her dance sick.

Edited April 18, 2017 by zoeysmom

[thefog]

24 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

LisaV also withdrew, she was not voted off.

No, she did not withdraw, she was voted off. 

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2013/04/dancing-with-the-stars-results-lisa-vanderpump-voted-off-in-week-4/

[WireWrap]

6 minutes ago, escape said:

No, she did not withdraw, she was voted off. 

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2013/04/dancing-with-the-stars-results-lisa-vanderpump-voted-off-in-week-4/

I stand corrected! LOL I remember her getting sick/fainting and thought she withdrew. As much as I like her, I didn't watch DWtS or vote.

[thefog]

25 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

LVP went home by vote.  She did the opposite of Kim Z.  she was working hurt and instead of withdrawing she powered through.

In Kim's case, she had a mini-stroke - and was hospitalized - and was not cleared by her doctor.  She did fight to stay on the show.

Edited April 18, 2017 by escape

[KungFuBunny]

7 minutes ago, escape said:

No, she did not withdraw, she was voted off. 

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2013/04/dancing-with-the-stars-results-lisa-vanderpump-voted-off-in-week-4/

I was about to post that. I didn't watch DWTS the season LVP was on. I do remember them showing the clip of LVP fainting on RHBH and Kim and Kyle making fun of the faint. LVP was NOT amused

[WireWrap]

9 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

That is what I think she failed to realize even though Mikey makes it fairly obvious.  I had to laugh at Lara Spencer asking her if Gleb would be choreographing Erika's next video.  I strongly advise Gleb to get into the witness protection program.  Mikey will hunt Gleb down an inviscerate him before he gives up his golden goose Erika.

LVP went home by vote.  She did the opposite of Kim Z.  she was working hurt and instead of withdrawing she powered through.  I believe by not dropping out LVP left the door open for other RHs.  http://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/dancing-with-the-stars-most-horrific-celebrity-injuries.html/?a=viewall She had a viral infection and swollen glands that caused low blood pressure.  What LVP did was manage to get ABC to cast a RH when they had said they weren't interested in RH and LVP was able to turn the tide.  I thought it noble of her dance sick.

I agree, Mikey would have Gleb "taken out" before he gives up his cushy job with Erika. LOL

I do remember how sick she was during it and for some reason I thought she dropped out. She did open the door to HWs doing DWtS!

[zoeysmom]

44 minutes ago, AndySmith said:

I'm surprised Nene did better than Kim Fields.

Yeah but she won't dive with the stars...even Rinna has her limits.

“It’s two completely different things. First off, everyone on ‘Dancing With The Stars’ is very nice and very warm and very sweet,” she joked.

I guess she should have said it with a faux-British accent, and maybe thrown in a "dahling!" at the end...

When Erika makes her little passive aggressive comments about the other RH she makes it seem as if she is above the fray.  In fact she often the provider of some of the nastier comments.  Such as the upcoming, "get the fuck out of here."

I thought Erika showed her true self when she flat out lied to Tom Bergeron about what she said to Gleb when she was eliminated.  She lies, denies and cries like her BFF Rinna.  I could not believe she did that and he responded back.  He had no use for the liar. Dispatched to the loser pile.

[Martinigirl]

I'm with Erika. I want PK to "get the fuck out of here" too

[thefog]

23 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

I believe by not dropping out LVP left the door open for other RHs.  LVP did was manage to get ABC to cast a RH when they had said they weren't interested in RH and LVP was able to turn the tide.  I thought it noble of her dance sick.

I seriously doubt that was the case since she has openly talked about DWTS not being a good experience and she clearly wanted off the show.

[AndySmith]

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When Erika makes her little passive aggressive comments about the other RH she makes it seem as if she is above the fray.  In fact she often the provider of some of the nastier comments.  Such as the upcoming, "get the fuck out of here."

I think there is a slight difference between her jokes, and her talking that way to the ingrown scrotum hair (TM & © Brian Moylan) that is PK. Just a slight difference.

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I could not believe she did that

I could not believe you could not believe, given how objective you are when it comes to Ericka...

[Martinigirl]

2 minutes ago, AndySmith said:

I think there is a slight difference between her jokes, and her talking that way to the ingrown scrotum hair (TM & © Brian Moylan) that is PK. Just a slight difference.

I could not believe you could not believe, given how objective you are when it comes to Ericka...

Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!! LOL@ ingrown scrotum hair! hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

[zoeysmom]

36 minutes ago, AndySmith said:

I think there is a slight difference between her jokes, and her talking that way to the ingrown scrotum hair (TM & © Brian Moylan) that is PK. Just a slight difference.

I could not believe you could not believe, given how objective you are when it comes to Ericka...

To me, a person who has to swear and yell to get their pointless point across is a loser.  Camille said it best when she said the one who loses her cool loses the argument.  That is why I can appreciate LVP and Dorit and to a lesser extent Eileen (she just doesn't have a lot of conflict) they present and defend without attacking and being offensive.

Hope springs eternal in my life,  I would think someone who spends an unprecedented amount of money on clothes, hair and the like, would be smart enough to hire a PR person (maybe Camille's is available) to give her a clue why she is not well liked compared to the other contestant.  It is easy for Erika she can buy a clue.  Apparently she unwilling to read reviews or unable to absorb them.  When you enter a competition and claim you want to win and I do think Erika was very earnest in her desire to bring home the mirror ball, then you have to listen.  I see the same behavior of Erika not listening to the speaker and allowing those around her to craft a scenario.  Erika's sexy wasn't working, her lack of emotion isn't working I know there are some who worship at the Erika altar but there are those who don't and Erika refuses to listen.  Most of all she needs to be honest to those around her when she isn't over something instead of saying she is.  It is not a good thing when people can't depend on you to be honest about a situation.

With my so called lack of objectivity is confirmed by her early exit from DWTS and articles that have been published about her. I feel pretty secure in my objectivity.  It is never a good idea to lie about something you have just been filmed saying.  Erika was essentially calling Tom a liar.  There are more than a few lip readers out there plus it puts her partner in a bad place.  I don't know why she decided to lie other than maybe she was disappointed, hurt  and frustrated. 

Edited April 18, 2017 by zoeysmom

[AndySmith]

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LOL@ ingrown scrotum hair

Some of the funniest insults were at PK's expense.

Edited April 18, 2017 by AndySmith

[Martinigirl]

7 minutes ago, AndySmith said:

Some of the funniest insults were at PK's expense.

I have to start reading @ Brian Moylan LOL!!!!!!!!

[KungFuBunny]

2 hours ago, escape said:

No, she did not withdraw, she was voted off. 

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2013/04/dancing-with-the-stars-results-lisa-vanderpump-voted-off-in-week-4/

I just watched an interview, LVP probably would have been eliminated week 3, but Dorothy Hamill dropped out due to an injury.

[WireWrap]

1 hour ago, KungFuBunny said:

I just watched an interview, LVP probably would have been eliminated week 3, but Dorothy Hamill dropped out due to an injury.

Thanks, I thought someone withdrew but mix up who it was. Good to know at least a part of my brain is working today!  LOL

[HunterHunted]

2 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

I thought Erika showed her true self when she flat out lied to Tom Bergeron about what she said to Gleb when she was eliminated.  She lies, denies and cries like her BFF Rinna.  I could not believe she did that and he responded back.  He had no use for the liar. Dispatched to the loser pile.

I guess it is a lie, but I looked at like a lot of Erika's behavior. She tends to shut down and be self protective. I get why she did it, but her instincts are so terrible when it comes to these things. She'd done badly in the competition in part because the viewers didn't connect with her. So when Tom asks her about mouthing "I told you", she doesn't recognize his question as an opportunity to open up to the audience. Yes, she was out of the competition, but building a lasting career is a marathon not a sprint. Opening up, being vulnerable at her elimination might have won her new fans.

For example, Lemonade is regarded as Beyoncé's most important work because of the nuanced view that Beyoncé provides of herself. Beyoncé shows herself to strong, sexy, sad, angry, vulnerable, feminist, and political. She's not just one of those attributes; she's all of them. 

I don't think Erika, as an artist, has learned that there can be strength and power in vulnerability. Nor do I think she gets that people have long entertainment careers not just because they consistently do good work, but also because something of the entertainer speaks to the audience. It's less about the product and more about the idea or symbolism and how we connect to that idea. Erika cites Madonna as inspiration, but I always feel like Erika's learned the wrong lessons from Madonna. Madonna has a zero fucks attitude about everything, not just sex. Madonna is unafraid to be funny, serious, obnoxious, political, sexy, ruthless, generous, vulnerable, sanctimonious, religious, artsy, and pretentious. When Erika figures out some of that, she might actually be able to build a lasting career. She'd also have limit Mikey to choreography. As a creative director, he's far too shallow to help her build a lasting career. He's also a crap director.

[lunastartron]

1 hour ago, HunterHunted said:

I guess it is a lie, but I looked at like a lot of Erika's behavior. She tends to shut down and be self protective. I get why she did it, but her instincts are so terrible when it comes to these things. She'd done badly in the competition in part because the viewers didn't connect with her. So when Tom asks her about mouthing "I told you", she doesn't recognize his question as an opportunity to open up to the audience. Yes, she was out of the competition, but building a lasting career is a marathon not a sprint. Opening up, being vulnerable at her elimination might have won her new fans.

For example, Lemonade is regarded as Beyoncé's most important work because of the nuanced view that Beyoncé provides of herself. Beyoncé shows herself to strong, sexy, sad, angry, vulnerable, feminist, and political. She's not just one of those attributes; she's all of them. 

I don't think Erika, as an artist, has learned that there can be strength and power in vulnerability. Nor do I think she gets that people have long entertainment careers not just because they consistently do good work, but also because something of the entertainer speaks to the audience. It's less about the product and more about the idea or symbolism and how we connect to that idea. Erika cites Madonna as inspiration, but I always feel like Erika's learned the wrong lessons from Madonna. Madonna has a zero fucks attitude about everything, not just sex. Madonna is unafraid to be funny, serious, obnoxious, political, sexy, ruthless, generous, vulnerable, sanctimonious, religious, artsy, and pretentious. When Erika figures out some of that, she might actually be able to build a lasting career. She'd also have limit Mikey to choreography. As a creative director, he's far too shallow to help her build a lasting career. He's also a crap director.

I think Erika is simply not bright, educated, or creative enough to be able to approach her musical act from this manner of perspective. And by "educated," I don't mean formally erudite or pedigreed but possessed of an understanding vis-a-vis cultural references and the way they can be appropriated, repurposed, subverted, and/or sent up to communicate new ideas.

Honestly, I was surprised she even cited Ginger in Casino as the model for her Tom Ford confessional look last season. 

This is a woman who thinks spread-eagling her legs because a pack of queens tells her it's fierce signifies feminist liberation and sexual independence. 

Or that a spray tanned, polyester bewigged pop tart grinding up on a shirtless male torso in a music video is "shocking" in 2016.

The most notable psychosexual performance she gives is the one of which she's unaware - that of her quotidian life as EG. A husband old enough to her father (or even grandfather) who publicly shushes her, the inevitably consequent need to titillate and scandalize daddy with tired old tropes that haven't been eyebrow raising in two decades, the focus on a gay male audience that ensures all of her burlesque is actually going to be neutered of any reciprocal sexual energy, the nutty paranoia about being regarded as a "whore," and the competing imperative be a victim in any context but also specifically a sexual victim without any agency, etc etc. 

[motorcitymom65]

4 hours ago, Martinigirl said:

I have to start reading @ Brian Moylan LOL!!!!!!!!

You must! It is absolutely "must read" for any HW fan. He also recaps NY and the OC. He is a very smart writer - truly a talent. And many of the HW's read his recaps - well Carole and Beth from NY and LVP from this show for sure. Andy is also a big fan of his column. I love him because he is very open about the HW's he roots for, but still calls them out on their shit. No making excuses when they do something stupid. For instance he roots for Kim Richards like crazy because he believes her to be so damaged, but he doesn't make excuses for her bad behavior and calls her on the carpet for it. He absolutely loves Erika. He loves LVP for a lot of reasons, but yep, came to the conclusion last season that she was indeed all of the things that she has been accused of over the years (being extremely maniuplative). This season, Bravo started giving him the episodes earlier in the day, so his recaps usually run over on Vulture immediatley after the show is over. Going to read his recaps is the very first thing I do when the show is over. The commentators are also extremely intelligent and witty. Many of them have been commenting for years and years. 

[zoeysmom]

44 minutes ago, motorcitymom65 said:

You must! It is absolutely "must read" for any HW fan. He also recaps NY and the OC. He is a very smart writer - truly a talent. And many of the HW's read his recaps - well Carole and Beth from NY and LVP from this show for sure. Andy is also a big fan of his column. I love him because he is very open about the HW's he roots for, but still calls them out on their shit. No making excuses when they do something stupid. For instance he roots for Kim Richards like crazy because he believes her to be so damaged, but he doesn't make excuses for her bad behavior and calls her on the carpet for it. He absolutely loves Erika. He loves LVP for a lot of reasons, but yep, came to the conclusion last season that she was indeed all of the things that she has been accused of over the years (being extremely maniuplative). This season, Bravo started giving him the episodes earlier in the day, so his recaps usually run over on Vulture immediatley after the show is over. Going to read his recaps is the very first thing I do when the show is over. The commentators are also extremely intelligent and witty. Many of them have been commenting for years and years. 

He should actually get paid for being Erika's PR agent, she needs one right about now. 

[Wings]

Erika's glam squad has turned her into a haughty drag queen.  Sounds harsh but they have! 

[zoeysmom]

2 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

I guess it is a lie, but I looked at like a lot of Erika's behavior. She tends to shut down and be self protective. I get why she did it, but her instincts are so terrible when it comes to these things. She'd done badly in the competition in part because the viewers didn't connect with her. So when Tom asks her about mouthing "I told you", she doesn't recognize his question as an opportunity to open up to the audience. Yes, she was out of the competition, but building a lasting career is a marathon not a sprint. Opening up, being vulnerable at her elimination might have won her new fans.

For example, Lemonade is regarded as Beyoncé's most important work because of the nuanced view that Beyoncé provides of herself. Beyoncé shows herself to strong, sexy, sad, angry, vulnerable, feminist, and political. She's not just one of those attributes; she's all of them. 

I don't think Erika, as an artist, has learned that there can be strength and power in vulnerability. Nor do I think she gets that people have long entertainment careers not just because they consistently do good work, but also because something of the entertainer speaks to the audience. It's less about the product and more about the idea or symbolism and how we connect to that idea. Erika cites Madonna as inspiration, but I always feel like Erika's learned the wrong lessons from Madonna. Madonna has a zero fucks attitude about everything, not just sex. Madonna is unafraid to be funny, serious, obnoxious, political, sexy, ruthless, generous, vulnerable, sanctimonious, religious, artsy, and pretentious. When Erika figures out some of that, she might actually be able to build a lasting career. She'd also have limit Mikey to choreography. As a creative director, he's far too shallow to help her build a lasting career. He's also a crap director.

The issue for me with Erika lying, or not remembering is she  I don't believe much of what she says any longer.  You can't walk straight  off the stage and when it is brought up what you said deny it.  Had she said -oh it was more than that, or it was a bad word, but she denied it insulting the host.  I really don't care why she lies she just doesn't carry any credibility for me any longer.  She had some mis-steps with the truth last year and I wrote it off to rookie mistakes, now it appears she just isn't a very honest person. 

You are nicer than I am.  I think if Erika wants to appeal to a broader audience she needs to ditch Mikey all together.  There are others out there willing to do the job. 

[Martinigirl]

1 hour ago, motorcitymom65 said:

You must! It is absolutely "must read" for any HW fan. He also recaps NY and the OC. He is a very smart writer - truly a talent. And many of the HW's read his recaps - well Carole and Beth from NY and LVP from this show for sure. Andy is also a big fan of his column. I love him because he is very open about the HW's he roots for, but still calls them out on their shit. No making excuses when they do something stupid. For instance he roots for Kim Richards like crazy because he believes her to be so damaged, but he doesn't make excuses for her bad behavior and calls her on the carpet for it. He absolutely loves Erika. He loves LVP for a lot of reasons, but yep, came to the conclusion last season that she was indeed all of the things that she has been accused of over the years (being extremely maniuplative). This season, Bravo started giving him the episodes earlier in the day, so his recaps usually run over on Vulture immediatley after the show is over. Going to read his recaps is the very first thing I do when the show is over. The commentators are also extremely intelligent and witty. Many of them have been commenting for years and years. 

I'm def going to take a look! Thanks!!!

[zoeysmom]

1 hour ago, lunastartron said:

I think Erika is simply not bright, educated, or creative enough to be able to approach her musical act from this manner of perspective. And by "educated," I don't mean formally erudite or pedigreed but possessed of an understanding vis-a-vis cultural references and the way they can be appropriated, repurposed, subverted, and/or sent up to communicate new ideas.

Honestly, I was surprised she even cited Ginger in Casino as the model for her Tom Ford confessional look last season. 

This is a woman who thinks spread-eagling her legs because a pack of queens tells her it's fierce signifies feminist liberation and sexual independence. 

Or that a spray tanned, polyester bewigged pop tart grinding up on a shirtless male torso in a music video is "shocking" in 2016.

The most notable psychosexual performance she gives is the one of which she's unaware - that of her quotidian life as EG. A husband old enough to her father (or even grandfather) who publicly shushes her, the inevitably consequent need to titillate and scandalize daddy with tired old tropes that haven't been eyebrow raising in two decades, the focus on a gay male audience that ensures all of her burlesque is actually going to be neutered of any reciprocal sexual energy, the nutty paranoia about being regarded as a "whore," and the competing imperative be a victim in any context but also specifically a sexual victim without any agency, etc etc. 

I always feel like what I get with Erika is I can afford the best money can buy therefore I will be successful.  Someone convinced Erika her target market is gay clubs.  I will be interested to see if she can break free of that pigeonhole.  I don't think anyone is going to sign on to be  the raunchy, sexy at any age for only $40,000.00 a month. 

[Happy Camper]

Legitimate Question: Why is Erika's board titled "Let them eat cake"?

Seriously not getting this. 

[VedaPierce]

Erika always reminds me of Wendi McLendon-Covey, the mom on the Goldbergs.  

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1018488/

[lololol]

2 hours ago, wings707 said:

Erika's glam squad has turned her into a haughty drag queen.  Sounds harsh but they have! 

TRASHY drag queen with NO talent. WAY too full of herself. She has NOTHING to offer.

[lunastartron]

51 minutes ago, Happy Camper said:

Legitimate Question: Why is Erika's board titled "Let them eat cake"?

Seriously not getting this. 

One of Erika's first scenes featured her eating and ordering a piece of cake while at lunch with Tom and the LAPD commissioner. And then waxing self congratulatory about how she ingests food unlike all of the other women in Los Angeles. 

This was pretty much the most interesting thing she did until Kathryn showed up midseason. 

[lololol]

11 hours ago, snarts said:

This article about it makes her sound like poor sport (& liar). 

"Although Jayne said "DWTS" was "an incredible experience," she left the scene quickly, avoiding most of the traditional post-show press line interviews."

ErICKa is a poor sport and a liar and a LOSER. She actually thinks she's talented - WRONG. Fake boobs, awful hair extensions, trailer trash, gold digger, insecure, narcissist, looks like a drag queen, and married to an old, homely, d bag.

[HunterHunted]

3 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

You must! It is absolutely "must read" for any HW fan. He also recaps NY and the OC. He is a very smart writer - truly a talent. And many of the HW's read his recaps - well Carole and Beth from NY and LVP from this show for sure. Andy is also a big fan of his column. I love him because he is very open about the HW's he roots for, but still calls them out on their shit. No making excuses when they do something stupid. For instance he roots for Kim Richards like crazy because he believes her to be so damaged, but he doesn't make excuses for her bad behavior and calls her on the carpet for it. He absolutely loves Erika. He loves LVP for a lot of reasons, but yep, came to the conclusion last season that she was indeed all of the things that she has been accused of over the years (being extremely maniuplative). This season, Bravo started giving him the episodes earlier in the day, so his recaps usually run over on Vulture immediatley after the show is over. Going to read his recaps is the very first thing I do when the show is over. The commentators are also extremely intelligent and witty. Many of them have been commenting for years and years. 

A lot of recappers don't do a great job of being nuanced and not ignoring the housewives faults. Brian is quite good at it. For example, he wrote this about Erika Jayne:

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I loved absolutely everything about Erika’s trip to Greece and I could watch about ten more episodes of it, especially because Erika Jayne as an endeavor is completely foolhardy. She thinks going to Greece will introduce her to all these new fans. Um, sorry, darling, but Mykonos in the summer is filled with the same New York and L.A. queens who already worship you. You are just preaching to one very fabulous choir. Also, with a team of ten (including an assistant named Laia, whose parents apparently spell the titles of all of Erika’s songs) and a $50,000-a-week rental property, there is no way that Erika Jayne Enterprises LLC is breaking even on this trip. She could sell as many records as U2 and still not break even on this trip.

He likes her, but he's not slavish about it. He looooooves Sonja Morgan even though he thinks she's a disaster. I think Brian might have starred me back in the old days on Gawker when you had to audition to comment. However, I don't know that anyone has done it better than Richard Lawson aka LOLCait, who coined the moniker Countess Crackerjacks and Rags McTantershanty. I've been reading both of them for more than a decade.

However, I generally find Ben and Ronnie to be the best right now because they are brutal to everyone. I love their terrible/fabulous impressions of everyone. So even with wives that they like, they're still taking the piss. I crack up every time Ronnie does his Dorit impression which is half the accents of the housewives from Cheshire mixed with Dick van Dyke's accent in Mary Poppins in a smoothie with no Xanax.

[Jextella]

For me, and based only on what I've seen and know thus far, Erika is someone of average talent and intelligence with a dream of being rich and famous.  I give her props because she has accomplished both.   Ya' gotta give her that.  She may have married a rich dude (check one thing off her list) which helped her fund the start of her performing career, but she made it work (check two off her list).

Meanwhile, it doesn't negate the fact that she is merely of average talent and intelligence and clearly a little off emotionally.   

I give her her due in accomplishing her two goals, but I am not a fan. 

Edited April 19, 2017 by Jextella

[notnowimbusy]

3 hours ago, wings707 said:

Erika's glam squad has turned her into a haughty drag queen.  Sounds harsh but they have! 

I don't watch DWTS, but my neighbor does.   She does watch RHBH.  I talked to her today to see what she thought of Erika.  She said at first she thought she was a drag queen.   Her main complaint about her was that she came across as being better than anyone else, (resting Bitch face), and couldn't really dance, seemed really stiff - but her biggest complaint was she used the word "Haughty" attitude.    This woman is representative of DWTS demographics.   Erika may appeal to her fan base, but she is just not in any way a cross over.     Her other complaint was that Erika never looked the judges in the eye - she said she kept looking around, looking at anybody else, as if she was above their criticism and didn't seem to learn from what they said.  

[Wings]

1 minute ago, notnowimbusy said:

I don't watch DWTS, but my neighbor does.   She does watch RHBH.  I talked to her today to see what she thought of Erika.  She said at first she thought she was a drag queen.   Her main complaint about her was that she came across as being better than anyone else, (resting Bitch face), and couldn't really dance, seemed really stiff - but her biggest complaint was she used the word "Haughty" attitude.    This woman is representative of DWTS demographics.   Erika may appeal to her fan base, but she is just not in any way a cross over.     Her other complaint was that Erika never looked the judges in the eye - she said she kept looking around, looking at anybody else, as if she was above their criticism and didn't seem to learn from what they said.  

I watch DWTS.  Your friend is spot on.  :^)

[WireWrap]

26 minutes ago, notnowimbusy said:

I don't watch DWTS, but my neighbor does.   She does watch RHBH.  I talked to her today to see what she thought of Erika.  She said at first she thought she was a drag queen.   Her main complaint about her was that she came across as being better than anyone else, (resting Bitch face), and couldn't really dance, seemed really stiff - but her biggest complaint was she used the word "Haughty" attitude.    This woman is representative of DWTS demographics.   Erika may appeal to her fan base, but she is just not in any way a cross over.     Her other complaint was that Erika never looked the judges in the eye - she said she kept looking around, looking at anybody else, as if she was above their criticism and didn't seem to learn from what they said.  

She is doing that on the reunion as well. As soon as someone calls her out or gives an honest answer that she doesn't like, she turns away from them. Andy even called her out on it on tonight's episode. She really thinks she is all that and a bag of chips and refuses to hear otherwise. LOL

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27 minutes ago, notnowimbusy said:

I don't watch DWTS, but my neighbor does.   She does watch RHBH.  I talked to her today to see what she thought of Erika.  She said at first she thought she was a drag queen.   Her main complaint about her was that she came across as being better than anyone else, (resting Bitch face), and couldn't really dance, seemed really stiff - but her biggest complaint was she used the word "Haughty" attitude.    This woman is representative of DWTS demographics.   Erika may appeal to her fan base, but she is just not in any way a cross over.     Her other complaint was that Erika never looked the judges in the eye - she said she kept looking around, looking at anybody else, as if she was above their criticism and didn't seem to learn from what they said.  

I totally agree with your friend.  Erika has played it all wrong on DWTS, a family show.  She should have come out full of happy personality and willing to try new things while still bringing out the sexy  on dances that SHOULD be sexy.  She tried way too hard to be Erika Jayne and I don't know if that is actually comfortable for her with the audience all up close and personal.  She is stone faced and haughty.  She has perfected the 'stoic face', that's for sure.  Standing there not moving a muscle and letting someone else even pat the tears off her perfectly made up face.  Good grief.  I will say one thing for her, she's limber! 

[Wings]

19 hours ago, stcroix said:

I totally agree with your friend.  Erika has played it all wrong on DWTS, a family show.  She should have come out full of happy personality and willing to try new things while still bringing out the sexy  on dances that SHOULD be sexy.  She tried way too hard to be Erika Jayne and I don't know if that is actually comfortable for her with the audience all up close and personal.  She is stone faced and haughty.  She has perfected the 'stoic face', that's for sure.  Standing there not moving a muscle and letting someone else even pat the tears off her perfectly made up face.  Good grief.  I will say one thing for her, she's limber! 

The judges commentary have influence on voters when viewers don't have a favorite that is a lock.  She failed to engage them.  How foolish to think her act would work outside of gay clubs.  Astounding that even works for her.  

Edited April 19, 2017 by wings707

[stcroix]

6 minutes ago, wings707 said:

The judges commentary have influence on voters when viewers don't have a favorite.  She failed to engage them.  How foolish to think her act would work outside of gay clubs.  Astounding that even works for her.  

You're right.  And she acted like she was humoring them by listening to what they had to say.  It was almost like,'' Ok, ok, move on, let's get this over."  She's obviously never heard about the number 1 rule on DWTS: Kiss up to the judges, what they say is ALWAYS right, smile, agree, promise you'll bring it next time! 

[AndySmith]

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I'm def going to take a look! Thanks!!!

Enjoy them, they really are very funny.

[zoeysmom]

Looks like Erika gave ZERO fucks about being eliminated from DWTS:  http://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/erika-jayne-has-the-most-erika-jayne-response-to-being-eliminated-from-dancing-with

[Wings]

12 hours ago, AndySmith said:

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I'm def going to take a look! Thanks!!!

Enjoy them, they really are very funny.

I scrolled back to see what this was about and couldn't find it.  I want to enjoy whatever is 'them' too!  

[AndySmith]

Recaps of this show on vulture.com. Definitely worth checking out, they are very funny.

http://www.vulture.com/tv/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/