Bronzedog October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 I don't envy Khloe. Removing someone from life support is a horrible decision to have to make. And, once they are removed, the death doesn't happen instantly. It can take several hours. No way the Karadasians are responsible for Lamar's decline. He's been an ass for a long time. Yes, he's had tragedy in his life. He also had extreme good fortune and success at other points. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1606241
Artsda October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 Lamar Odom -- No Signs of Improvement ... Prognosis Worsens http://www.tmz.com/2015/10/15/lamar-odom-condition-worsens-unconscious/#ixzz3oetXR62A Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1606546
MarysWetBar October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 I have had to make that decision three times in my life already, and it is awful. You listen to the Drs and what they recommend, cus they sure will tell you straight...no chance of your loved one ever being what they were before the incident... Then you think about quality of life and maybe discussions you have had with the person during their lifetime. Then you ask others who are present if they have ever talked to the person about it, cus you need some sort of validation that you are making the right decision. Then you agree to pull it. Then you watch....monitors..their face...their chest moving up and down. You wait. Fucking awful. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1606648
okerry October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 I have had to make that decision three times in my life already, and it is awful. You listen to the Drs and what they recommend, cus they sure will tell you straight...no chance of your loved one ever being what they were before the incident... Then you think about quality of life and maybe discussions you have had with the person during their lifetime. Then you ask others who are present if they have ever talked to the person about it, cus you need some sort of validation that you are making the right decision. Then you agree to pull it. Then you watch....monitors..their face...their chest moving up and down. You wait. Fucking awful. I can't bring myself to "like" your post, but I appreciate your writing it. Very powerful. Thank you. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1606679
Honey October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 He underwent a successful dialysis treatment, and one site said that he's showing more responsiveness. What sickens me is that I have a feeling some people want him to die, just so they have something to talk about. Vultures. Everything I saw about Lamar showed me that he is a good person. He has a terrible illness in addiction. I so hope that he can somehow get it under control. I could totally see Lamar and Khloe together again, if he can somehow obtain sobriety. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1606683
MarysWetBar October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 Thank you! I will turn it around for you and make it funny ( that's my family's way.) After you have been the decision maker a couple times, everyone starts asking if they can jot you down on their directives, as you are the resident "expert" in the family...plus no one wants to be the one blamed at some point in the future, I say...lol 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1606689
Artsda October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 He underwent a successful dialysis treatment, and one site said that he's showing more responsiveness. A lot of sites say different things, but NBC sports and the major ones are all repeating TMZ. I think they're the leader on accurate information on this one. Lamar apparently had a court date next week scheduled in NY over the fight with his ex over the kids and child support. The battle he's been fighting with her for 6 years. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3273091/Lamar-Odom-days-away-face-mother-two-children-New-York-Supreme-Court-nasty-custody-battle-lasted-six-years.html Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1606744
Suzee2 October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 Lamar apparently had a court date next week scheduled in NY over the fight with his ex over the kids and child support. The battle he's been fighting with her for 6 years. I'm not familiar with CA laws, but if Lamar doesn't survive, I wonder if his ex-girlfriend could pursue his "marital assets" (including part of Khloe's income) for his children since he's technically still married. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1606787
howmanywords October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 Lance Bass was on TV a little while talking about this. He's close with Kris and was saying how much Kris and the whole family adores Lamar and how devestated they are. Even after the separation with Khoe Kris would check on him daily but she realized he needed some tough love and tried to get him help as she saw his addiction worsening..that when the family saw he wasn't accepting help they were told (by counselors maybe?) to back off and not force him. That's the sad thing with addicts if any kind..you simply cannot force anything. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1606802
Artsda October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 (edited) The family really did try with him, even after he cheated on Khloe and everything that broke with their marriage. They all seemed to still love him and blame his choices on the addiction. They didn't cut him off, everyone from Kris, Caitlyn especially Khloe kept trying to keep in contact and help him. Nobody has said a bad word about him, even Kris Humphries is praising how great a person he is and praying for him. That's make it so sad, that he's loved by so many, they all see him as this wonderful person no matter what he's done decision wise and still couldn't fight his demons. I wonder if his ex-girlfriend could pursue his "marital assets" (including part of Khloe's income) for his children since he's technically still married I wonder if Khloe would even care, she doesn't need Lamar's money but I don't think she'd give into a fight either. I think she'd probably want to do something like put it in a trust for the kids, if Lamar and the ex have been on bad terms for so long then I don't think Khloe would just hand her the money but probably set up the children for their future. Edited October 15, 2015 by Artsda 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1606817
Cocoa Puff October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 Lance Bass was on TV a little while talking about this. He's close with Kris and was saying how much Kris and the whole family adores Lamar and how devestated they are. Even after the separation with Khoe Kris would check on him daily but she realized he needed some tough love and tried to get him help as she saw his addiction worsening..that when the family saw he wasn't accepting help they were told (by counselors maybe?) to back off and not force him. That's the sad thing with addicts if any kind..you simply cannot force anything. So much this, I only know of Lamar via what I know of him from the press and I've been praying for him and his family since this news broke. So fucking sad. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1606828
farmgal4 October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 This. Our family had to deal with a life support decision. The most gut-wrenching decision we had to go through as a family. I feel for anyone having to deal with a life or death decision. I'm sorry you had to go thru that, SPLAIN. I had to euthanize my cat a couple of days ago. I fell apart during and after the procedure which made me think about people like you, who have to make the decision to pull the plug on a loved one. I can't imagine and pray I'm never faced with it myself. Peace to you, SPLAIN. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1606838
farmgal4 October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 I have had to make that decision three times in my life already, and it is awful. You listen to the Drs and what they recommend, cus they sure will tell you straight...no chance of your loved one ever being what they were before the incident... Then you think about quality of life and maybe discussions you have had with the person during their lifetime. Then you ask others who are present if they have ever talked to the person about it, cus you need some sort of validation that you are making the right decision. Then you agree to pull it. Then you watch....monitors..their face...their chest moving up and down. You wait. Fucking awful. I can't imagine and pray to God I never have to go thru that nightmare. I'm so sorry for you. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1606856
Suzee2 October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 I wonder if Khloe would even care, she doesn't need Lamar's money but I don't think she'd give into a fight either. I meant marital assets, which would include Khloe's not just Lamar's money.As I said, I don't know about CA law in this regard. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1606863
GaT October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 They didn't cut him off, everyone from Kris, Caitlyn especially Khloe kept trying to keep in contact and help him. Nobody has said a bad word about him, Except Kim 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1606886
iwasish October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 Except Kim Her attitude is that he hurt Khloe very badly and I have to agree with her ( it kills me though), I wouldn't forgive anyone who hurt my sister/brother so easily. I also think Khloe could easily get drawn back in by him. I never found him all that charming or likeable, I thought it came off as fake, Meant to charm and disarm you from seeing what's really going on. No reason Khloe can't be friendly and polite but the flirty shit was ridiculous. He was probably high as a kite when he called her anyway. Her knowing what went down with Lamar and Khloe, I can see why she wouldn't be happy with Khloe getting all giddy when he calls. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1606959
represent October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 (edited) Her attitude is that he hurt Khloe very badly and I have to agree with her ( it kills me though), I wouldn't forgive anyone who hurt my sister/brother so easily. I agree with her too. She never really sounds hateful towards him, she's just trying to protect hers and Khloe is part of that... I gotta laugh and can't blame her, but no way in hell would Kim ever put up with the demons that Scott and Lamar have, hell no. When Kourtney was crying Kim had this blank stare like girl please, why? And if Kourtney responded with the word "Love," I suspect Kim's blank expression wouldn't have changed. I died laughing. I mean she was a good sister and got up to distract Mason, but she wasn't going to offer up even a murmur of understanding, because she doesn't. Kim don't play, you better be able to keep up appearances, if not, cut off. Nothing is suppose to get in the way of her picking out her next outfit. Edited October 15, 2015 by represent 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1606999
iwasish October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 I agree with her too. She never really sounds hateful towards him, she's just trying to protect hers and Khloe is part of that... I gotta laugh and can't blame her, but no way in hell would Kim ever put up with the demons that Scott and Lamar have, hell no. When Kourtney was crying Kim had this blank stare like girl please, why? And if Kourtney responded with the word "Love," I suspect Kim's blank expression wouldn't have changed. I died laughing. I mean she was a good sister and got up to distract Mason, but she wasn't going to offer up even a murmur of understanding, because she doesn't. Kim don't play, you better be able to keep up appearances, if not, cut off. Nothing is suppose to get in the way of her picking out her next outfit. I suspect Kim don't play in some way because Kim don't let herself ever care that much anymore. I think Reggie was her big love and with that over, it's more of a practical, we're compatible, get along, want the same things (money and fame) and don't mind being apart for periods of time. A comfortable, convenient arrangement. Kanye may have been hot for her early on, but once he had her a few times I think his ardor has cooled a bit. Funny how when they first hooked up and had North, Kim was all talk about leaving the show and changing her life being more private, possibly moving to France with Kanye, how he didn't want to be on the show at all or have North on. Now she's back living with her mom along with Kanye and soon two kids, and she seems the most desperate of all of them to keep the show running. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1607077
represent October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 I suspect Kim don't play in some way because Kim don't let herself ever care that much anymore. This was my point when I said that if Kourtney said to her that she was doing all this for love, Kim would still have a blank stare on her face. That she couldn't offer even a murmur of understanding, I knew Kourtney wasn't going to get a hug, but an aw or something...nope, all she got was a stare, because Kim genuinely doesn't get it. But in her defense, anyone who has watched this show long enough has had to sit through the same Scott spirals out of control phase every season. So in this case, I can't fault the girl for just sitting there staring, I really can't. Not to mention, the expressions that her face can make are limited. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1607122
merylinkid October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 I'm not familiar with CA laws, but if Lamar doesn't survive, I wonder if his ex-girlfriend could pursue his "marital assets" (including part of Khloe's income) for his children since he's technically still married. The kids have no more rights to his marital assets since he died than they would in a divorce. Assets are divided between the parties to the marriage, i.e. the people married to each other. The kids don't get a say in how ANYTHING is divided up. It's not theirs. It is Lamar and Khloe's. If he dies, Khloe is his widow and she gets everything not left to someone else in a will (and if he died without a will the kids have some rights, I am sure). Most assets jointly owned have a "right of survivorship" which means if one person on the title dies it goes directly to the other person and is not part of the estate. His kids might have rights in the estate, but that is not marital assets. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1607138
mwell345 October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 (edited) TMZ is reporting that Kris, Kim, Kourtney and Kylee are leaving Vegas but will be back this weekend. Khloe is staying. "We're told Kim has an appointment with a pregnancy specialist who flew to LA just to meet with her. She's had an ongoing condition in which her placenta is growing too deep into her uterus." (Of course it's about Kim. Spare me from her continuing pregnancy dramas. You'd think she was the only woman ever to give birth). Kendall is flying in from London to be with Khloe. http://www.tmz.com/2015/10/15/lamar-odom-kardashians-khloe-going-home/#ixzz3ofdne6gE ETA: Radar is reporting Lamar has no brain activity in addition to failing kidneys. http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/lamar-odom-brain-dead-drug-overdose/ Edited October 15, 2015 by mwell345 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1607143
represent October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 Where the hell is Kris going? Why does she have to leave? She doesn't have little kids and a placenta problem. I wonder if Caitlyn and Rob are staying? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1607190
Bronzedog October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 Did Rob ever show up? No wonder the women all seem to be so strong. The men in their lives never seem to step up and support them. Not counting Kanye because I don't know if he even knows Lamar. But, Rob? Khloe could probably use his support. Unfortunately, he never seems to have anything to give. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1607196
Kromm October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 Oh Fuck me! PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T LET THIS BE TRUE. http://https://twitter.com/Robin_Leach/status/654351907813613568 Robin Leach isn't the type to require proof before repeating something. Lance Bass was on TV a little while talking about this. He's close with Kris and was saying how much Kris and the whole family adores Lamar and how devestated they are. I never had anything against Lance Bass before, but the phrase "close with Kris" makes me suspicious of anyone and anything they say. A lot of sites say different things, but NBC sports and the major ones are all repeating TMZ. I think they're the leader on accurate information on this one. Accuracy is not a TMZ standby. Just timeliness. That doesn't mean it might not be accurate this time, but with TMZ it's a toss up always. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1607214
iwasish October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 (Of course it's about Kim. Spare me from her continuing pregnancy dramas. You'd think she was the only woman ever to give birth). Kim and her placenta problem... along with the excess fluid in her womb that might be a symptom of diabetes and her pre eclampsia and her general hatred of being pregnant. Its a wonder this woman isn't confined to bed rest. Why is her pregnancy even an issue at this point, why mention it? Just to let everyone know what a sacrifice she made to fly to Vegas, she jeopardized her life!! All for Lamar... and a photo op. . 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1607302
represent October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 Oh Fuck me! PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T LET THIS BE TRUE.http://https://twitt...351907813613568 What is it? I can't get into the link. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1607324
Kromm October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 What is it? I can't get into the link. Somehow that poster mangled the URL (they must have pasted it down them somehow deleted part of it). Eventually the working link forwards to this: https://twitter.com/Robin_Leach/status/654351907813613568 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1607345
mwell345 October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 (edited) Somehow that poster mangled the URL (they must have pasted it down them somehow deleted part of it). Eventually the working link forwards to this: https://twitter.com/...351907813613568 If any cameras were rolling, it would E TV and they have already said their cameras are NOT filming. No hospital would permit it anyway, especially in an ICU unit with a comatose patient. It does speak to the general distrust of this family though, that this rumor has been circulating since yesterday and E actually had to state that their cameras were not at the hospital. Did Rob ever show up? I was wondering the same thing, and found that multiple outlets are reporting he is (or was) at the hospital. Edited October 15, 2015 by mwell345 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1607376
HumblePi October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 Kim and her placenta problem... along with the excess fluid in her womb that might be a symptom of diabetes and her pre eclampsia and her general hatred of being pregnant. Its a wonder this woman isn't confined to bed rest. Why is her pregnancy even an issue at this point, why mention it? Just to let everyone know what a sacrifice she made to fly to Vegas, she jeopardized her life!! All for Lamar... and a photo op. . Kim and Kanye went underwent an IVF gender-selection process this spring to predetermine baby No. 2’s sex. The procedure isn't cheap, but money isn't an issue in their case. The egg selection procedure in which only male fertilized eggs were placed inside her uterus costs around $20,000. Many doctors refuse to perform this invasive procedure just for sex selection, and some people are troubled by what eventually becomes of the embryos of the unwanted sex, which may be frozen or discarded. The choosing of the sex of your children is just one added benefit of being filthy rich. The only thing money isn't able to control is preeclampsia and gestational diabetes. Hopefully for Kim, her diabetes will only be temporary and not a permanent part of her life. Kim is at higher risk for developing type 2 diabetes down the road. It's no wonder that Kanye has a God complex, he can choose what the sex of his child will be. Kim will most likely have a very fat little baby and I'm certain she'll be going to see Terry Dubrow or some other plastic surgeon soon after giving birth for her vaginoplasty. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1607396
HumblePi October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 (edited) I have had to make that decision three times in my life already, and it is awful. You listen to the Drs and what they recommend, cus they sure will tell you straight...no chance of your loved one ever being what they were before the incident... Then you think about quality of life and maybe discussions you have had with the person during their lifetime. Then you ask others who are present if they have ever talked to the person about it, cus you need some sort of validation that you are making the right decision. Then you agree to pull it. Then you watch....monitors..their face...their chest moving up and down. You wait. Fucking awful. This is the way I look at it. I'm going in for surgery on Oct. 30th (yikes-2 weeks from now) and I have prepared my Advance Directives. I'm not going to leave the decision for someone else to make in the event something happens and I end up clinically dead on on life support. I made a choice not to have machines keep me alive if I'm clinically dead. I think of it like this....If I was clinically dead years before the artificial ventilator was invented, before defibrillators were around or before long term medical care for a vegetable was available, I'd be dead and that's how it should be. If a person has irreversible brain damage and cannot survive without mechanical ventilation to breathe then I'm pretty sure the majority of people wouldn't want to live for another 20, 30 or more years in that vegetative state. We all have to die eventually, but that's not living. I don't want to make light of this situation where someone is kept alive although there is nothing sustainable by that person. I compare it to a house plant needing to be fed and watered every day. It makes sense for a plant that is alive and flourishing, it makes no sense for a person that is essentially dead. Let them go and release them from their torment. Edited October 15, 2015 by HumblePi 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1607416
HumblePi October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 (edited) Did Rob ever show up? No wonder the women all seem to be so strong. The men in their lives never seem to step up and support them. Not counting Kanye because I don't know if he even knows Lamar. But, Rob? Khloe could probably use his support. Unfortunately, he never seems to have anything to give. Actually the only support that means anything to Lamar right now is the support of his ventilator and medical team. Lamar isn't aware of anything because he's totally unconscious and possibly brain dead, nobody knows that for sure. But having a lot of people hovering around an ICU bed is distracting and disruptive to patient care. Best they come if he ever becomes conscious and aware of his surroundings and people with him. Right now, that's not happening. If people are rushing to his bedside it's more for themselves, not for Lamar Odom because right now there's a man lying in bed that isn't aware of anything since he has suffered brain damage. Edited October 15, 2015 by HumblePi 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1607469
mwell345 October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 So Yeezus babysits too? No wonder Kourtney is going back to LA.. "She, Kris, and Kim had all rushed to Sin City as soon as they heard the news. Kourt had left her kids in Kanye West's care to join them, and it wasn't long before Kylie arrived, as well." http://perezhilton.com/2015-10-15-lamar-odom-khloe-kardashian-preparing-goodbye-medical-decisions#.ViAmFit8dqB ( I seriously doubt it's true - she may have left them with Kim's nanny but Kanye taking the kids out for ice cream and playing Duck Duck Goose? Not buying it.) 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1607508
Cocoa Puff October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 Actually the only support that means anything to Lamar right now is the support of his ventilator and medical team. Lamar isn't aware of anything because he's totally unconscious and possibly brain dead, nobody knows that for sure. But having a lot of people hovering around an ICU bed is distracting and disruptive to patient care. Best they come if he ever becomes conscious and aware of his surroundings and people with him. Right now, that's not happening. If people are rushing to his bedside it's more for themselves, not for Lamar Odom because right now there's a man lying in bed that isn't aware of anything since he has suffered brain damage. So much this, in my job as a CNA I am called to sit with patients that have been admitted to the hospital as a drug overdose or suicide attempt and these people are either not lucid don't know their names let alone that they're in the hospital or they litterally sleep for like 24-48hrs straight and the family comes in and tries to have a conversation with them, askes them how they're doing ect and im stitting there like are you serious right now? But yes the Kardashian/Jenners and other family memebers rushing to the hospital is 100% about them and them getting a chance to say goodbye (it's looking like that's what this is, he's dieing) But most ICU's do not allow more than 2 people back at least the hospital I work at only allows 2 people. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1607530
iwasish October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 Kim and Kanye went underwent an IVF gender-selection process this spring to predetermine baby No. 2’s sex. The procedure isn't cheap, but money isn't an issue in their case. The egg selection procedure in which only male fertilized eggs were placed inside her uterus costs around $20,000. Many doctors refuse to perform this invasive procedure just for sex selection, and some people are troubled by what eventually becomes of the embryos of the unwanted sex, which may be frozen or discarded. The choosing of the sex of your children is just one added benefit of being filthy rich. The only thing money isn't able to control is preeclampsia and gestational diabetes. Hopefully for Kim, her diabetes will only be temporary and not a permanent part of her life. Kim is at higher risk for developing type 2 diabetes down the road. It's no wonder that Kanye has a God complex, he can choose what the sex of his child will be. Kim will most likely have a very fat little baby and I'm certain she'll be going to see Terry Dubrow or some other plastic surgeon soon after giving birth for her vaginoplasty. I bet she has a c section, especially if it's a big baby. I recall Khloes imitation of her attempts at pushing and she'll never push an 8 1/2 pounder out if that's the best she can do. Can you imagine her botoxed face during a push? It can't move now, it could actually crack!! 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1607558
Darknight October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 Why didn't Kimberly just hire a woman to carry her baby? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1607572
howmanywords October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 Eh i dont find it surprising. I know Kanye is extremely hated but spending time caring for children that are his family is shocking? There were pics recently of North playing soccer and you can see him in back of her helping her and when Scott and Kourtney broke up Kim and Kanye were really great with those kids IIRC they took them to NYC for 4thvof July weekend..Kanye even took Mason to the movies. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1607593
MarysWetBar October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 (edited) This is the way I look at it. I'm going in for surgery on Oct. 30th (yikes-2 weeks from now) and I have prepared my Advance Directives. I'm not going to leave the decision for someone else to make in the event something happens and I end up clinically dead on on life support. I made a choice not to have machines keep me alive if I'm clinically dead. I think of it like this....If I was clinically dead years before the artificial ventilator was invented, before defibrillators were around or before long term medical care for a vegetable was available, I'd be dead and that's how it should be. If a person has irreversible brain damage and cannot survive without mechanical ventilation to breathe then I'm pretty sure the majority of people wouldn't want to live for another 20, 30 or more years in that vegetative state. We all have to die eventually, but that's not living. I don't want to make light of this situation where someone is kept alive although there is nothing sustainable by that person. I compare it to a house plant needing to be fed and watered every day. It makes sense for a plant that is alive and flourishing, it makes no sense for a person that is essentially dead. Let them go and release them from their torment.Absolutely agree. The thing is...people go to say their good byes for them. The person laying in the bed is not aware but the family dealing with the loss needs support.I think the grieving process goes much more smoothly for some if they can see with their own eyes that there is no coming back. Others want to remember the person alive and healthy. YMMV Edited October 16, 2015 by MarysWetBar 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1607682
HumblePi October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 Khloe's publicist contacted Dennis HOf, the owner of the Love Ranch South. He stated on Access Hollywood a few minutes ago that he got a call from this 'rude' publicist asked him "are you planning to do any media today with this?". The publicist states that they politely asked him to stop talking to the media, which he refused. Dennis Hof responded to this publicist "If Khloe is so concerned about her man, why isn't she waking up with him instead of my girls?" Dennis Hof also confirmed that Lamar was communicating on social media with the ranch's transgender prostitute, Madison Montag. He said that Lamar paid the ranch $75,000 using a credit card and specified that the two prostitutes be made available to him 24 hours a day to do whatever he asked whether it was to fix him something to eat, to get him a drink or to have sex. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1607805
hendersonrocks October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 Dennis Hof responded to this publicist "If Khloe is so concerned about her man, why isn't she waking up with him instead of my girls?" That is stone cold heartless, right there. What an ass - on so many levels. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1607842
Cocoa Puff October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 Khloe's publicist contacted Dennis HOf, the owner of the Love Ranch South. He stated on Access Hollywood a few minutes ago that he got a call from this 'rude' publicist asked him "are you planning to do any media today with this?". The publicist states that they politely asked him to stop talking to the media, which he refused. Dennis Hof responded to this publicist "If Khloe is so concerned about her man, why isn't she waking up with him instead of my girls?" Dennis Hof also confirmed that Lamar was communicating on social media with the ranch's transgender prostitute, Madison Montag. He said that Lamar paid the ranch $75,000 using a credit card and specified that the two prostitutes be made available to him 24 hours a day to do whatever he asked whether it was to fix him something to eat, to get him a drink or to have sex. Ugh dude needs to get his story straight cause in the beginning he said that he and Lamar are pals and he let Lamar stay for free cause he wanted to help his boy out. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1607881
howmanywords October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 I saw this douchebag on Good Day NY yesterday and I wanted to punch him really hard. When he said then he got a call from the Kardashian publicist saying "Khloe would rather be the one to talk when the time is right" he said he told the publicist "go to hell". What a tacky asshole. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1607904
Bronzedog October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 Actually the only support that means anything to Lamar right now is the support of his ventilator and medical team. Lamar isn't aware of anything because he's totally unconscious and possibly brain dead, nobody knows that for sure. But having a lot of people hovering around an ICU bed is distracting and disruptive to patient care. Best they come if he ever becomes conscious and aware of his surroundings and people with him. Right now, that's not happening. If people are rushing to his bedside it's more for themselves, not for Lamar Odom because right now there's a man lying in bed that isn't aware of anything since he has suffered brain damage. I know. That's why I said Khloe could probably use Rob's support. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1607923
Kromm October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 Khloe's publicist contacted Dennis HOf, the owner of the Love Ranch South. He stated on Access Hollywood a few minutes ago that he got a call from this 'rude' publicist asked him "are you planning to do any media today with this?". The publicist states that they politely asked him to stop talking to the media, which he refused. Dennis Hof responded to this publicist "If Khloe is so concerned about her man, why isn't she waking up with him instead of my girls?" Dennis Hof also confirmed that Lamar was communicating on social media with the ranch's transgender prostitute, Madison Montag. He said that Lamar paid the ranch $75,000 using a credit card and specified that the two prostitutes be made available to him 24 hours a day to do whatever he asked whether it was to fix him something to eat, to get him a drink or to have sex. Wow. If you out scum the Ks, that's really evil. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1608036
HumblePi October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 I saw this douchebag on Good Day NY yesterday and I wanted to punch him really hard. When he said then he got a call from the Kardashian publicist saying "Khloe would rather be the one to talk when the time is right" he said he told the publicist "go to hell". What a tacky asshole. Pimps aren't generally known for their finesse and tact. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1608471
SPLAIN October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 (edited) Dennis Hof responded to this publicist "If Khloe is so concerned about her man, why isn't she waking up with him instead of my girls?" Because Lamar is/was an addict, you stupid ass. Hof has always come off as one giant prick. Khloe did what many people do when an addict won't seek help - they cut them out of their lives. Hof is a person with no class. I expect nothing more from a person who is basically publicizing his business. Don't be surprised when this classless turd starts renting out the "room where Lamar spent his last day on Earth" for a nice chunk of change. Edited October 16, 2015 by SPLAIN 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1608523
Cocoa Puff October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 Because Lamar is/was an addict, you stupid ass. Hof has always come off as one giant prick. Khloe did what many people do when an addict won't seek help - they cut them out of their lives. Hof is a person with no class. I expect nothing more from a person who is basically publicizing his business. Don't be surprised when this classless turd starts renting out the "room where Lamar spent his last day on Earth" for a nice chunk of change. You know that's coming along with giving the girls he was with a higher profile too.. gag 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1608655
princelina October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 (edited) Absolutely agree. The thing is...people go to say their good byes for them. The person laying in the bed is not aware but the family dealing with the loss needs support.I think the grieving process goes much more smoothly for some if they can see with their own eyes that there is no coming back. Others want to remember the person alive and healthy. YMMV I agree too - and I am going to say something that I am not sure if I am agreeing with you all or not but: We also go to say our goodbyes to comfort the family members of the dying - my aunt was on life support, and our family members we summoned to the hospital to "say goodbye" and we did - in this case not to comfort the aunt on life support, but the uncle and cousin who were so relieved to have us come, escort us to the room to say something meaningful, etc. The husband and son, in this case, were in need of family showing up to love their wife/mom. And then we went for dinner as a group, after which they ended life support. It's a sad time for all involved. It's nice when you can actually have an idea about how you can help those involved feel better :) Edited because I forgot to add that Dennis Hof is a big old jerk. That's all. Edited October 16, 2015 by princelina 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1608694
Dahlia October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 WTF. How messed up is this place. There are men who would request that room? Those girls? Because of this tragedy? Plenty of scum to go around sounds like ... 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1608889
WhosThatGirl October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 (edited) I agree too - and I am going to say something that I am not sure if I am agreeing with you all or not but: We also go to say our goodbyes to comfort the family members of the dying - my aunt was on life support, and our family members we summoned to the hospital to "say goodbye" and we did - in this case not to comfort the aunt on life support, but the uncle and cousin who were so relieved to have us come, escort us to the room to say something meaningful, etc. The husband and son, in this case, were in need of family showing up to love their wife/mom. And then we went for dinner as a group, after which they ended life support. It's a sad time for all involved. It's nice when you can actually have an idea about how you can help those involved feel better :) Edited because I forgot to add that Dennis Hof is a big old jerk. That's all. This! All of it. I get that someone coming into a room of a coma patient and talking to them may seem ridiculous but I can imagine it's more or less for the people who are saying goodbye to this person and for the other relatives and close people who are in need of support. I'm never had to deal with this in my life but if someone I loved deeply was in this state nothing would stop me from going to the hospital and sitting with them and possibly talking about my day and or saying goodbye to them. I honestly don't even know how I would react and what I would say but I would still go and yes I know Lamer is not even aware of who is there in the room with him right now but it's probably helping his loved ones to talk to him or say their peace. And yes Dennis Hof is a jerk and I wish these tv news people would stop interviewing him and giving him more press and time than he deserves. Edited October 16, 2015 by WhosThatGirl 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1608905
mwell345 October 16, 2015 Share October 16, 2015 Where the hell is Kris going? Why does she have to leave? She doesn't have little kids and a placenta problem. Kris may have left because Caitlyn is on her way. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3671-kardashians-in-the-media/page/33/#findComment-1609045
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