Kardashians in the Media

[mwell345]

It's so sad - this is a guy that could have had the world on  a string - successful NBA player, well known and seemingly well liked, and young with so much potential and a woman who I believe genuinely cares about him.   Sad, but sadly not surprising.

[OnceSane]

Why the hellllllllllllllllllllllllll is Jesse Jackson there? Him and Al Sharpton may be the few fame whores worse than the K clan themselves.

Seriously. When I read he was there on the Twitter feed, I thought "WTF?" and then, "Of course he is."

[Readalot]

Seriously. When I read he was there on the Twitter feed, I thought "WTF?" and then, "Of course he is."

I will give this a pass. He is in town for the Dem Debates. Now if he flew in asap that would be ridiculous. How ever it would of been nice if he didn't have a press conference about it.

[GracieK]

Hof and his people know the drill here and they don't want to be liable.  They are claiming they only witnessed him ingest verbal viagra and cognac, but I guarantee they knew he was snorting/shooting up all weekend.  CYA in full effect.

[LADreamr]

E! is reporting now that Scott has entered rehab. I hope this actually helps him.

[MMLEsq]

People.com posted a story at 4:50 p.m. (EDT) that states that while the show is not currently filming, the KUWTK crew did film at least some of this.

 

http://www.people.com/article/keeping-up-with-the-kardashians-crew-films-khloe-kardashian-rushing-las-vegas-lamar-odom

Khloé Kardashian rushed to Lamar Odom's side after he was found unresponsive at a Nevada brothel, and the Keeping Up with the Kardashians cameras were rolling ahead of the difficult trip.

 

A source tells PEOPLE the KUWTK crew filmed on Tuesday night as Kardashian left for Las Vegas on a private jet with mom Kris Jenner and sister Kim Kardashian West.

 

"Khloé is very, very upset," the source says. "She could barely keep it together as she headed to Las Vegas last night."

 

The source adds that Kardashian, 31, was crying and "very worried about Lamar."
 

In a statement, E! says the crew is not filming the family right now.

 

 

[Maysie]

It sucks that there's already discussion about how this will be handled on the show because it shows that most of us assume that nothing is off limits for this family. I guess if this was a real, true "reality" show, I could understand some kind of discussion about the situation because it's suddenly a real situation for Khloe. However, given how much of the show appears to be scripted and the question about how much in their lives is staged for the camera (such as Kim's wedding to Kris H), it seems off to me that this may be twisted into some form of entertainment under the guise of it's part of their reality right now.

 

I don't have any faith that E! or the family could handle this situation in a delicate manner, especially reading how I Am Cait has panned out. This is a sad situation, a tragedy for Lamar, no matter how it turns out. To see his tragedy play out on tabloid television would be the final indignity if the worst case happens. As well, I would think Khloe would want this one bit of privacy. I don't doubt this is hard for her but if she ends up consenting to re-enacting this stuff for the show in several months she's as bad as her mother. It's one thing to do an interview or even refer to the incident in talking head interviews on the show (such as "Lamar's situation has been really hard for Khloe and she's been depressed . . . "). Turning it into its own storyline is an entirely different matter. Honestly, I hope Khloe puts her foot down and says no, you cannot use this in the show, for everyone's sake, including her own.

 

To be sure, this is a situation of Lamar's making. The Kardashians didn't give him the drugs. Lamar is apparently an addict and that's an awful thing for him and anyone in his circle. His battle shouldn't be fodder for a Very Special Episode of Keeping Up With the Kardashians.

[HumblePi]

According to the CNN article, the people at the hospital where Lamar was taken said that he doesn't look like he's going to make it and if he does, he won't be the same. Lamar suffered brain damage and at least one stroke. Multiple drugs were found in his blood.

 

The final paperwork for their divorce hasn't been filed, so Khloe could be in a position to make decisions about Odom's medical care and end-of-life directive. This could be a repeat of the Bobbi Kristina Brown case where he remains unresponsive and on life support. Will Khloe have the strength to end his life support if the decision comes down to her?

 

If nothing else, I hope this brings a lightbulb moment to Scott Disick.

[mwell345]

 

The final paperwork for their divorce hasn't been filed, so Khloe could be in a position to make decisions about Odom's medical care and end-of-life directive. This could be a repeat of the Bobbi Kristina Brown case where he remains unresponsive and on life support. Will Khloe have the strength to end his life support if the decision comes down to her?

 

I thought the divorce had been finalized, but am reading all day that it has not been. Yet another source has indicated that Khloe will make medical decisions for Odom.  God bless her, because that is rough.  

 

In addition, a news conference (not by Kardashians, by sheriff's office, I think) is expected around 4PM Pacific time.

 

http://ktla.com/2015/10/14/khloe-kardashian-is-at-lamar-odoms-side-in-nevada-hospital-source/

[Darknight]

Do you think this was a set up?

Poor kids. I feel for them.

[Cocoa Puff]

Do you think this was a set up?

Poor kids. I feel for them.

A set-up? for who? Lamar? 

[GaT]

I looked at the pictures of Kim arriving at the hospital today, & even though her hair is suspiciously done, I'm happy to see she isn't wearing makeup. I wondered if she would really take time for her "glam squad" to make her up for the papps.

[Cocoa Puff]

watching the live presser now here

http://www.fox5vegas.com/category/273649/livestream2

The sherif's Dept says that Lamar was doing coke at the time as well as the herbal viagra.

Edited October 14, 2015 by carolinagirl81

[howmanywords]

It sucks that there's already discussion about how this will be handled on the show because it shows that most of us assume that nothing is off limits for this family. I guess if this was a real, true "reality" show, I could understand some kind of discussion about the situation because it's suddenly a real situation for Khloe. However, given how much of the show appears to be scripted and the question about how much in their lives is staged for the camera (such as Kim's wedding to Kris H), it seems off to me that this may be twisted into some form of entertainment under the guise of it's part of their reality right now.

 

Speaking only for myself but I think I'm one of the few that does NOT think this will be played out as some ratings grabber for KUWT nor do I think this will be twisted into a form of entertainment.  IMO the ones who do think that are the ones who simply refuse to believe this family is actually capable of actual feelings outside of making good TV.  However I'm wondering how it might be discussed on the show because I'm trying to imagine how something as massive as Khloe's husband dying could possibly be avoided. I would be shocked if it isnt discussed. This is someone who was a big part of the show and the family. If Lamar passes away I'm expecting this will change Khloe's life and demeanor quite a bit even if its only briefly.  I have no problem whatsoever if its done in a respectable way and I dont even put this in the same category as Bruce becoming Caitlyn. Not even close. I dont think this would be handled even remotely the same way.

 

eta: 

i'm looking at the pictures of Kim and she's even wearing plain flip flops

Edited October 14, 2015 by howmanywords

[iwasish]

It sucks that there's already discussion about how this will be handled on the show because it shows that most of us assume that nothing is off limits for this family. I guess if this was a real, true "reality" show, I could understand some kind of discussion about the situation because it's suddenly a real situation for Khloe. However, given how much of the show appears to be scripted and the question about how much in their lives is staged for the camera (such as Kim's wedding to Kris H), it seems off to me that this may be twisted into some form of entertainment under the guise of it's part of their reality right now.

I don't have any faith that E! or the family could handle this situation in a delicate manner, especially reading how I Am Cait has panned out. This is a sad situation, a tragedy for Lamar, no matter how it turns out. To see his tragedy play out on tabloid television would be the final indignity if the worst case happens. As well, I would think Khloe would want this one bit of privacy. I don't doubt this is hard for her but if she ends up consenting to re-enacting this stuff for the show in several months she's as bad as her mother. It's one thing to do an interview or even refer to the incident in talking head interviews on the show (such as "Lamar's situation has been really hard for Khloe and she's been depressed . . . "). Turning it into its own storyline is an entirely different matter. Honestly, I hope Khloe puts her foot down and says no, you cannot use this in the show, for everyone's sake, including her own.

To be sure, this is a situation of Lamar's making. The Kardashians didn't give him the drugs. Lamar is apparently an addict and that's an awful thing for him and anyone in his circle. His battle shouldn't be fodder for a Very Special Episode of Keeping Up With the Kardashians.

It shouldn't be, but it will be. And it's their own fault. Starting from episode one, Caitlyn and Kris, sold themselves and their minor kids for gold. Kendall and Kylie serving liquor at a party, playing on a stripper pole, showing Kris disrespecting Caitlyns parental role and encouraging the girls to sneak a puppy into the house against his wishes, it goes on and on, eventually chronicling the demise of three marriages, and a long term relationship. What all is real and what is fake? It no longer matters, the public expects to see it all and if they don't get it? All those hard bargained deals Kris made to insure the financial security of her kids ( accomplished long ago!!) will be lost and Kris and Kim and the others ( perhaps not Kendall) will have to go back to being on the outside looking in at glitter and glamor they love so much. Lamar's dignity means nothing to them, because their own doesn't.

[Cocoa Puff]

The 911 recording is heartbreaking

[HumblePi]

watching the live presser now here

http://www.fox5vegas.com/category/273649/livestream2

The sherif's Dept says that Lamar was doing coke at the time as well as the herbal viagra.

On Extra, it was reported that Lamar had 'every drug imaginable' in his blood. He had track marks on both arms. Evidently, this drug abuse isn't something new to Lamar this weekend, he's been an I/V drug user for a while. Will Khloe, as his legal wife, be able to make the decision to pull the plug if it's determined there's so many organs that have failed and so much brain damage that he would be nothing but a vegetable.

[Cocoa Puff]

On Extra, it was reported that Lamar had 'every drug imaginable' in his blood. He had track marks on both arms. Evidently, this drug abuse isn't something new to Lamar this weekend, he's been an I/V drug user for a while. Will Khloe, as his legal wife, be able to make the decision to pull the plug if it's determined there's so many organs that have failed and so much brain damage that he would be nothing but a vegetable.

Extra must've paid off a hospital worker because it's just been rumor as to what's been found in his system yet. I am waiting on the presser from the hospital from the doctor's cause the police are only giving info that we already know..

[mwell345]

E news reporting that Scott has checked into rehab. Not sure if it happened before Lamar was found, but hopefully a step in the right direction for him.

[Gam2]

Obviously, Lamar has had problems (drugs and family/friends issues) for a very long time. I think this was entirely predictable which is why Khloe divorced him. She seems to have really tried to help him and get him healthy but you cannot do that for another person. As much as I despise these people for their fame whoring and even more, the people who follow them (including me TODAY only) this is just a sad loss of life even if he recovers. He'll never be a complete human being in any way. It's saddest for his children but I doubt he's been a positive influence in their lives. I truly do not understand these women who hook up with men who are losers, "stars", etc and have children with them. I guess they think they'll be supported for the rest of their lives on child support. Who looses in these situations? The children, always. I just cannot understand women who will sell their lives and souls and their children to be with one of these men. Of course, Khloe didn't have a child with this man and thank God for that! 

[HumblePi]

Do you think this was a set up?

Poor kids. I feel for them.

A setup in what way? Lamar Odom was a drug addict, plain and simple. There's no doubt about that. He went through drug rehab for 3 weeks and signed himself out. Three weeks!

Edited October 15, 2015 by HumblePi

[Gam2]

Oops- I meant "loses" instead of "looses". I do know proper grammar.

[merylinkid]

 

I looked at the pictures of Kim arriving at the hospital today, & even though her hair is suspiciously done, I'm happy to see she isn't wearing makeup.

But I notice her tits are on full display.   She could have covered up.   She could have gone in a side door.   She knew the paps were on display and put her moneymakers out there for the world to see.

 

This is the time for discretion, not pap shots of your tits.    Plenty of celebs manage to visit loved ones in the hospital withhout it winding up in the tabs.

 

This is why I don't trust the family to not milk it for all its worth regardless of any real feelings.

[SPLAIN]

I cannot speak to how California law works specifically.   But usually, you are not divorced until you have the piece of paper that says "Divorced" and it is officially entered into the docket of the case. 

So Cal resident here. Correct. Until the judge signs off on the documents, the parties are not officially divorced. The L.A. courts are backed up by at least six months, as far as the family courts are concerned. It may be a few more months before the judge gets to Khloe and Lamar's divorce file and signs off on it, assuming Lamar is still alive.

 

Lamar had put off on signing his divorce documents. If he hadn't, he and Khloe would have certainly been divorced by now. But, since he pushed off the matter, no doubt due to his addiction, here he is now where Khloe is still his wife and at his side, except it is not how he would would have wanted it. It is almost as if fate intervened. 

 

It doesn't sound like Lamar will come out of this fully intact considering the brain damage he likely suffered. That is assuming he survives. It looks bleak. It is a sad situation all around for all involved.

[Cocoa Puff]

But I notice her tits are on full display.   She could have covered up.   She could have gone in a side door.   She knew the paps were on display and put her moneymakers out there for the world to see.

 

This is the time for discretion, not pap shots of your tits.    Plenty of celebs manage to visit loved ones in the hospital withhout it winding up in the tabs.

 

This is why I don't trust the family to not milk it for all its worth regardless of any real feelings.

It's Kim, she's dressing the way she likes I wouldn't expect anything less. The shocker would have been if she was in sweats or jeans and a t-shirt.

[iwasish]

I'm sure his dad will be there looking for a payout. I can only imagine what a mess it can become if all three sides start fighting over who has next of kin rights. And is making those decisions something Khloe wants to do. Considering the circumstances, if I were Khloe I might relinquish my rights to his ex gf and let her and his children make any decisions. The K kids were upset that their dads wife was calling the shots when he was dying, Khloe might remember how she felt then. No one wins in that situation.

[Cocoa Puff]

I'm sure his dad will be there looking for a payout. I can only imagine what a mess it can become if all three sides start fighting over who has next of kin rights. And is making those decisions something Khloe wants to do. Considering the circumstances, if I were Khloe I might relinquish my rights to his ex gf and let her and his children make any decisions. The K kids were upset that their dads wife was calling the shots when he was dying, Khloe might remember how she felt then. No one wins in that situation.

Also seeing how legally Khloe is still married to Lamar could she just sign over control like that to the ex girlfriend/kid's mom?

His dad is there, I saw a photo of him supposedly at the hospital.

Edited October 15, 2015 by carolinagirl81

[iwasish]

I would not want to make decisions for a man I was divorcing, no matter if I had great love for him, if he had children from another relationship. I don't think Khloe had a close relationship with his kids. I don't even know what kind of relationship they had with Lamar. But he is their dad. And long after Klhoe moves on in her life, those kids have to live with any decisions made. They deserve a voice.

[Darknight]

A setup in what way? Lamar Odom was a drug addict, plain and simple. There's no doubt about that. He went through drug rehab for 3 weeks and signed himself out. Three weeks!

I'm reading so many different stories. Don't know what to believe. Didn't know he went to drug rehab. Unfortunately you can't help someone that doesn't want it. I wished he would've thought about his children and got better for them.

[thefog]

I'm sure his dad will be there looking for a payout. I can only imagine what a mess it can become if all three sides start fighting over who has next of kin rights. And is making those decisions something Khloe wants to do. Considering the circumstances, if I were Khloe I might relinquish my rights to his ex gf and let her and his children make any decisions. The K kids were upset that their dads wife was calling the shots when he was dying, Khloe might remember how she felt then. No one wins in that situation.

His children are minors.  And why would the ex gf have any say?  E-Online reported that legally, Khloe still has that responsibility - since they are not officially divorced.

 

I'm not sure how this is even comparable to the situation with Rob Sr.  He and his family knew he was terminally ill.  I'm sure he had a will (being a lawyer) and had talked to his kids what he wanted.  All, of them, except for Rob, were over 18. 

[farmgal4]

So Cal resident here. Correct. Until the judge signs off on the documents, the parties are not officially divorced. The L.A. courts are backed up by at least six months, as far as the family courts are concerned. It may be a few more months before the judge gets to Khloe and Lamar's divorce file and signs off on it, assuming Lamar is still alive.

Lamar had put off on signing his divorce documents. If he hadn't, he and Khloe would have certainly been divorced by now. But, since he pushed off the matter, no doubt due to his addiction, here he is now where Khloe is still his wife and at his side, except it is not how he would would have wanted it. It is almost as if fate intervened.

It doesn't sound like Lamar will come out of this fully intact considering the brain damage he likely suffered. That is assuming he survives. It looks bleak. It is a sad situation all around for all involved.

NBC News is saying that he's on a ventilator and has suffered brain damage. If the brain damage is severe, won't turning the vent off be a consideration? And who will make the final decision? He could actually have a Living Will, and in that case the doctors will have to follow Lamar's wishes, right? I've got a bad feeling about this; I don't think he's gonna make it out of this alive. It's very sad, because I liked Lamar. Damn, anybody that gets involved with those bitches ends up with their life going to hell in a hand basket. Just wait, Scott will be next unless this tragedy scares him straight. Who wants to bet that he and Kourt will get back together after this? Edited October 15, 2015 by farmgal4

[Darknight]

Extra must've paid off a hospital worker because it's just been rumor as to what's been found in his system yet. I am waiting on the presser from the hospital from the doctor's cause the police are only giving info that we already know..

How is this legal? Hippa laws?

[MissE]

NBC News is saying that he's on a ventilator and has suffered brain damage. If the brain damage is severe, won't turning the vent off be a consideration? And who will make the final decision? He could actually have a Living Will, and in that case the doctors will have to follow Lamar's wishes, right? I've got a bad feeling about this; I don't think he's gonna make it out of this alive. It's very sad, because I liked Lamar. Damn, anybody that gets involved with those bitches ends up with their life going to hell in a hand basket. Just wait, Scott will be next unless this tragedy scares him straight. Who wants to bet that he and Kourt will get back together after this?

 

This didn't happen to Lamar because he was involved with Khloe. It happened because he's an addict, and he was an addict long before he met Khloe. 

 

Also, if he has a living will, then yes, that would be followed, but if he doesn't, then Khloe is his next of kin, and she would be the one to make the decisions needed.

[Darknight]

I think the problem with the kardasian women is their self worth. Khloe knew he was an addict, but still married him. Probably thought she could change him. You cannot change a person. The person must change on their own. Just like Kourtney and Scott. She probably still thinks she can change him. You can't. Change happens within.

[SPLAIN]

I don't think Khloe knew him long enough to come to the conclusion that he was an addict or even a casual user of drugs before she married him. I once dated a man who I had discovered was abusing a certain drug. I was with him for 14 months. I found something that alluded to drug use. It didn't matter that he wasn't a full blown addict, just the fact he was likely casually using any illegal drug scared the bejesus outta me. I think once Khloe found out, she did what many family members tend to do, try to save the addict by enabling.

 

 

Damn, anybody that gets involved with those bitches ends up with their life going to hell in a hand basket. Just wait, Scott will be next unless this tragedy scares him straight. Who wants to bet that he and Kourt will get back together after this?

Lamar was a drug user before he met Khloe. He has been for quite some time. He was a party guy. I have a friend who was close with a girlfriend who hung around with Lamar. They met at some L.A. club.  I wouldn't call it dating, merely hooking up for sex and getting high together. This girl ended up dying from an overdose two years before Lamar hooked up with Khloe. My friend was devastated. She didn't even know how bad her friend's addiction problem was. 

 

Lamar's drug use wasn't heightened because of Khloe or any of the Kardashians, and they aren't responsible for details spilling out about his addiction and behavior once Khloe decided to leave the marriage. Lamar did this to himself. He dates a very well-known person and asks that person to marry him. He was in a high-profile situation with regards to the KUWTK show. It was only a matter of time before his addiction would be brought forth front and center. I am no Kardashian fan or defender but, this is a matter where the addict put himself in this situation. It has nothing to do with the Kardashians, no matter how foul they can be.

 

As for HIPPA laws, when it comes to quick, fast cash, people will talk. HIPPA laws be damned.

Edited October 15, 2015 by SPLAIN

[Artsda]

People is reporting Kourtney and Kendall are there now. Khloe paid and arranged for Lamar's kids & father to go to Vegas.

 

'They're Pretty Sure This Is It': Khloé Kardashian Forced to Make Medical Decisions for Lamar, Source Says

 

I hope really Rob is ok, instead of all of them rushing to Khloe I hope they don't leave Rob alone. 

https://instagram.com/p/81wl2PJWfL/?taken-by=robkardashian

[howmanywords]

Horrible. Whether you hate the Kardashians or not, having to decide to keep someone on life support or pull the plug is one of the hardest, most heartbreaking decisions in life. Logically if he's got severe brain damage he likely won't be able to function even if lives but its still awful to have to be the one to make that choice.

[Artsda]

Caitlyn is now on the way to Vegas too.

http://ca.eonline.com/news/706718/caitlyn-jenner-heading-to-las-vegas-to-be-with-lamar-odom-and-kardashian-family

[SPLAIN]

 

Horrible. Whether you hate the Kardashians or not, having to decide to keep someone on life support or pull the plug is one of the hardest, most heartbreaking decisions in life. Logically if he's got severe brain damage he likely won't be able to function even if lives but its still awful to have to be the one to make that choice.

This. Our family had to deal with a life support decision. The most gut-wrenching decision we had to go through as a family. I feel for anyone having to deal with a life or death decision.

[MsDiva2007]

I just don't get why people think this is the K family's fault. Lamar Odom is a grown man he makes his own decisions. This family treat him like family from the beginning. Khloe did everything to dressing,feeding and taking care of his daily needs. Khloe did not make him cheat,did not make him do drugs. Girlfriend held on longer than most woman would until she realized she could not save him from himself! 

 

I mean really people living all up in glass houses and tossing out huge stones!smh

[maryis1]

I don't usually comment on the KUWTK thread but I do read the posts. There is no doubt that Khloe loves this man. For all the opportunities that she has had to dis him, she rarely ever said anything that was spiteful or mean. I think that when she realized he had the raging drug problem, she tried to hide it from the public more than she tried to hide if from her family.

 

I can't even imagine the shitstorm of paparazzi that the hospital has to deal with, with all of these "stars" descending on the hospital. And I would hate to be a patient in the same hospital and know that my family had to jump through numerous hoops to come see me because I am sure they are questioning every person entering the place to try to keep the press away from his room.

 

Maybe I am hardhearted but what good will having this entire cast of characters descend on the room of a comatose man? I imagine that his children will be brushed aside in favor of getting the perfect grieving shot of Kris. Then again, no one has ever accused any of this crew of having any sort of inner life that was capable of reflecting on a situation and being proactive. Ugh.

[mwell345]

It sounds to me, with Catilyn now on her way (leaving her mother with 2 broken hips) and Lamar's children etc. coming in, that the family is gathering to say their farewells and a decision will be made soon.  (I'm not criticizing Caitlyn's decision, but just saying that if she's leaving her mother with 2 broken hips, it has to be for a very serious reason).

 

Does anyone know if Rob has shown up at the hospital yet? 

 

ETA: To answer my own question, multiple sources are reporting Rob is at the hospital.  In addition, Kim has cancelled her baby shower this weekend.

Edited October 15, 2015 by mwell345

[howmanywords]

Lamar is in ICU, there isn't going to be a bunch of "characters" all around him but family and close friends are allowed in at certain points, and in this case as noted above its pretty obvious everyone is there to say their final goodbyes. Also you don't have to actually be in the room to show support for a loved one..just being at the hospital is support for Khloe.

[Suzee2]

I think this article is a good summation of Lamar's tragic story.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/between-the-bright-lights-and-darkness--lamar-odom-is-burdened-with-his-own--true-hollywood-story-231906633.html

[iwasish]

His children are minors.  And why would the ex gf have any say?  E-Online reported that legally, Khloe still has that responsibility - since they are not officially divorced.

 

I'm not sure how this is even comparable to the situation with Rob Sr.  He and his family knew he was terminally ill.  I'm sure he had a will (being a lawyer) and had talked to his kids what he wanted.  All, of them, except for Rob, were over 18. 

If I recall comments made on the show and in interviews, when Rob Sr was ill, there was a lot of friction between his kids and his wife. I recall them saying that they had difficulty even getting to see him (in his home), to the point that they "had to force their way into the house" . What they meant by force they didn't say, but I gather things were very volatile between the step mother (of only a few months) and the kids (and Kris!).  I'm not saying Khloe doesn't have a right to make the decisions, just that I think  his ex, who he was with on and off for longer than he was with Khloe, and who will be dealing with the kids long after Khloe has moved on, at least should have some input and hopefully make things easy for the children. If there is bitterness over who made what decisions against someone else's wishes it will only serve to make their healing more difficult. Khloe has always talked a good game about fairness and kindness in general and I know she had rooms for Lamar's kids in their home to make them feel welcome  when they visited, so I think she will think of them when she makes her decisions.

[MissE]

I don't usually comment on the KUWTK thread but I do read the posts. There is no doubt that Khloe loves this man. For all the opportunities that she has had to dis him, she rarely ever said anything that was spiteful or mean. I think that when she realized he had the raging drug problem, she tried to hide it from the public more than she tried to hide if from her family.

 

I can't even imagine the shitstorm of paparazzi that the hospital has to deal with, with all of these "stars" descending on the hospital. And I would hate to be a patient in the same hospital and know that my family had to jump through numerous hoops to come see me because I am sure they are questioning every person entering the place to try to keep the press away from his room.

 

Maybe I am hardhearted but what good will having this entire cast of characters descend on the room of a comatose man? I imagine that his children will be brushed aside in favor of getting the perfect grieving shot of Kris. Then again, no one has ever accused any of this crew of having any sort of inner life that was capable of reflecting on a situation and being proactive. Ugh.

Why would his kids be pushed aside? Khloe paid for them to fly out to be with their dad, so they clearly aren't an afterthought here. 

 

Also, why shouldn't the Kardashian's be there? They all loved Lamar, and they love Khloe, so they are there to support her, especially if she is the one that has to decide to end Life Support. 

[Thula]

Also seeing how legally Khloe is still married to Lamar could she just sign over control like that to the ex girlfriend/kid's mom?

His dad is there, I saw a photo of him supposedly at the hospital.

 

That's not how it works.  If your next of kin is unable or unwilling to make decisions on your behalf, they don't get to just randomly choose a new decision maker without your consent.  Next of kin are usually the decision makers because, in theory, they would have a vested interest in doing what is best for you.  The ex that Lamar dumped to marry Khloe after a public whirlwind romance, would likely have an ax to grind even if she is the mother of his children.  In the event there is no next of kin, courts would appoint an impartial guardian.

[thefog]

If I recall comments made on the show and in interviews, when Rob Sr was ill, there was a lot of friction between his kids and his wife. I recall them saying that they had difficulty even getting to see him (in his home), to the point that they "had to force their way into the house" . What they meant by force they didn't say, but I gather things were very volatile between the step mother (of only a few months) and the kids (and Kris!).  I'm not saying Khloe doesn't have a right to make the decisions, just that I think  his ex, who he was with on and off for longer than he was with Khloe, and who will be dealing with the kids long after Khloe has moved on, at least should have some input and hopefully make things easy for the children. If there is bitterness over who made what decisions against someone else's wishes it will only serve to make their healing more difficult. Khloe has always talked a good game about fairness and kindness in general and I know she had rooms for Lamar's kids in their home to make them feel welcome  when they visited, so I think she will think of them when she makes her decisions.

What are you talking about - when you refer to "decisions"?  The discussion wasn't about visitation - which Khloe has done - by making arrangements for his family to be with him.  Lamar is incapacitated - and is not in the position where he can speak for himself.  At some point, decisions will need to be made regards to further medical intervention (i.e., think Joan Rivers, Bobbi Kristian Brown). 

I'm not sure why Robert Sr was brought into the mix.  His situation was completely different than Lamar's.  He was terminally ill.

Edited October 15, 2015 by escape

[grisgris]

If you read Lamar's Wikipedia entry (yeah...) look at his game stats. There is a pattern of steady decline in performance which began before he hooked up with the K-clan. Sad.

[Thula]

If I recall comments made on the show and in interviews, when Rob Sr was ill, there was a lot of friction between his kids and his wife. I recall them saying that they had difficulty even getting to see him (in his home), to the point that they "had to force their way into the house" . What they meant by force they didn't say, but I gather things were very volatile between the step mother (of only a few months) and the kids (and Kris!).  I'm not saying Khloe doesn't have a right to make the decisions, just that I think  his ex, who he was with on and off for longer than he was with Khloe, and who will be dealing with the kids long after Khloe has moved on, at least should have some input and hopefully make things easy for the children. If there is bitterness over who made what decisions against someone else's wishes it will only serve to make their healing more difficult. Khloe has always talked a good game about fairness and kindness in general and I know she had rooms for Lamar's kids in their home to make them feel welcome  when they visited, so I think she will think of them when she makes her decisions.

 

Lamar and his ex haven't been a couple for 6 (I think) years.  I don't get the impression that he is around his kids much, so it is doubtful that he and his ex were close or that she would know much about his medical history or life in the past half dozen years.  Stepping in as a guardian for someone and making these type of life/death/medical decisions aren't up for group vote.  One person has to make the decisions or else it turns into a big cluster-F.  And it's not about doing what's best for Lamar's kids, it's about doing what's best for Lamar.