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"The View" : Week of 1/4/16


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(Thanks, ginger90 from the media thread)

 

Monday, January 04 - Susan Sarandon; Rocco DiSpirito (author, "The Negative Calorie Diet").

Tuesday, January 05 - George Takei ("Allegiance"); Deborah Roberts and Al Roker (authors, "Been There Done That").

Wednesday, January 06 - Felicity Huffman and Timothy Hutton (ABC's "American Crime").

Thursday, January 07 - Day of Hot Topics.

Friday, January 08 - Timothy Omundson and Karen David (ABC's "Galavant").

 

 

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Nobody is gone from the opening. Candace and Michelle were in the opening but they aren't on the show today. They have personalized mugs with all of them on it now too. *sighs*

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Yeah, the new mugs are the only new thing.

 

Well, Whoopi is treating the Cosby subject as just another topic. All of the previous bias she exhibited has been tempered.

 

Raven's gray wig is so unflattering. I think she is cringing at herself now, but it was too late to change before airtime.

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Yes WG sure has changed her tune about Cosby now hasn't she!  I know it is an unpopular opinion but I like Sunni Hostin.  She can actually bring knowledge to the table and is well spoken.  Not surprised to hear Paula say she was voting for Trump.  Raven looks terrible but what else is new.  Her rolling her eyes up when Paula said that shows her level of maturity..or lack of!

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I know it is an unpopular opinion but I like Sunni Hostin.  She can actually bring knowledge to the table and is well spoken. 

I like her, too.  I watch CNN a lot (it's my go-to channel when I have nothing else to watch) and so I have seen a lot of her through the years and I have never had any problems with her.  Heck -- I even like Ana Navarro!  She has a great sense of humour. 

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If they hadn't wasted so much time on that stupid cooking segment we may have been able to see the clip of Natalie Cole singing in it's entirety or close to it. It didn't seem like Joy even knew she and Whoopi were supposed to "go against" each other cooking so that ended up like a all to common Spew disaster. Then we had asshat Rocco telling them to hurry up and etc.....

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The Cosby topic was the first time Sunny didn’t get on my nerves. That’s why she should be on CNN and not The View or any other talkshow. What did she say about her holiday? She was DJ Coco or something?

 

Besides her and Raven, it was a pretty good show. I like Sarandon and Dispirito, Whoopi was in a good mood, and they had a good mix of lighter/heavier topics.

 

Too bad we didn’t lose some of the co-hosts, but I had a feeling that was just hopeful wishing on my part anyway. I like that they made a cup with their pictures though; I think it was probably in response to Joy’s comments on the season premiere.

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Yes, Natalie deserved better than 3 seconds.

I kind of tuned out after Susan Sarandon. Keep up the good fight, Susan!

 

If today is to set the tone for the rest of the season, then I give it a B for barely better. Of course this show doesn't know how to be consistent, except consistently a crap shoot. At least we didn't have to view Stacey London's deal.

 

I didn't hear Paula say she'd vote for Trump but can't say I'm surprised. She might change her mind. I wonder of Trump supporters would be fewer is so many of them weren't Hillary haters.

 

 


Sunni said she used to be a DJ years ago - DJ Sunni or CoCo (another story), but that now everything's digital.

 

When Joy mentioned the cruise & grandma,  I think Raven shouted out to her mother that yes she knows SHE looks like grandma - in that gray hair.

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I like her, too.  I watch CNN a lot (it's my go-to channel when I have nothing else to watch) and so I have seen a lot of her through the years and I have never had any problems with her.  Heck -- I even like Ana Navarro!  She has a great sense of humour. 

 

LOL  I have CNN on all the time and dvr the other shows.  Ana Navarro is very funny!  David Gergen needs to get the marbles out of his mouth!  I would much prefer Sunni as a permanent host instead of Michelle or Raven.  

 

I liked Whoopi showing respect to others today, let's hope it continues....

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What people have to realize is that people like Sarandon are highly paid by whatever organization they represent.  She really angered me when she said that the US is the only country who doesn't want to take in these migrants, and that's blatantly false.  There are many nations who don't want to take more in, including the UK, France, Italy, Hungary and now even Germany is admitting that they made a mistake by taking in so many and that their economy can't handle the influx.  And according to a Muslim-based aid group in London, a vast majority (83%) are solo men and not families, like Sarandon claimed.  And when she said "they're not terrorists", I want to know how she knows that none of these migrants are terrorists?  What funny is, so many celebrities are lecturing us on this issue, but I have yet to see one of them open their homes to a migrant family.

 

Does Raven really think her weird hairdos/wigs are good looks?  I like Sunni and think she has good points to bring forward.

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LOL  I have CNN on all the time and dvr the other shows.  Ana Navarro is very funny!  David Gergen needs to get the marbles out of his mouth!  I would much prefer Sunni as a permanent host instead of Michelle or Raven.  

 

I liked Whoopi showing respect to others today, let's hope it continues....

This is too funny, Foghorn Leghorn but a few weeks back I ventured over into the CNN Forum for the 1st time and immediately saw your name :)    I didn't post anything because I am afraid that once I started I would become totally addicted and never get out of there, lol,  because okay, I will admit it, if I am home, CNN is on my tv 95% of the time.  I heart it.  Watching their political coverage is my favourite guilty pleasure  and I am Canadian so go figure... 

 

Sorry to go so off-topic.  I have nothing of value to add about today's show because I missed the show this morning because I had to shovel but am catching it in 10 minutes. 

 

 

They have personalized mugs with all of them on it now too. *sighs*

Crap.  Now we know we are stuck with this motley crew for the rest of the season. 

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Paula said she was on a train & heard two Democrats talking & one of them said they'd be voting for Trump.

 

ETA:  Raven looked (& sounded) like an idiot in that grey wig.  What's wrong with those people?

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Paula said she was on a train & heard two Democrats talking & one of them said they'd be voting for Trump.

I heard that and thought it sounded like something right out of Bitsy's playbook. 

All in all, today's show wasn't all that horrible. 

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What funny is, so many celebrities are lecturing us on this issue, but I have yet to see one of them open their homes to a migrant family.

 

"Michael Moore Defies Governor's Ban On Syrian Refugees And Opens Up His Apartment"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michael-moore-syrian-refugees_565c8094e4b072e9d1c27693

 

 

so many celebrities are lecturing us on this issue,

 

Who else ? Names, please.

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What people have to realize is that people like Sarandon are highly paid by whatever organization they represent.  She really angered me when she said that the US is the only country who doesn't want to take in these migrants, and that's blatantly false.  There are many nations who don't want to take more in, including the UK, France, Italy, Hungary and now even Germany is admitting that they made a mistake by taking in so many and that their economy can't handle the influx.  And according to a Muslim-based aid group in London, a vast majority (83%) are solo men and not families, like Sarandon claimed.  And when she said "they're not terrorists", I want to know how she knows that none of these migrants are terrorists?  What funny is, so many celebrities are lecturing us on this issue, but I have yet to see one of them open their homes to a migrant family.

 

I missed the Sarandon interview so I don't know if she was addressing Syrian refugees or the "migrants" you describe, which are two very distinct issues. If the subject was Syrian refugees, then the "vast majority" being single adult males is grossly misleading given that nearly 70 percent of refugees referred for resettlement on US soil are women and children twelve and under.

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/

As for celebrities opening their homes to "migrants," surely their numbers can't be any worse than the numbers of isolationist RWNJs offering room and board to all those homeless, mentally ill veterans that are suddenly of such great concern on my Twitter and Facebook feeds.

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Who else ? Names, please.

The Pope? :)

I know Edward Norton and the Humans of New York community both had tremendously successful Syrian refugee fundraisers and Mandy Patinkin addressed the refugees' plight with extraordinary eloquence on Stephen Colbert's show just before Christmas. May God bless them all for doing whatever it takes to avoid a replay of 1930s Germany.

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About that wall featured in Trump's ad, it's in Morocco - gets a "Pants on Fire" rating from PolitiFact.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/04/donald-trump/donald-trumps-first-tv-ad-shows-migrants-southern-/

The man is playing his supporters for fools. He's a joke; his campaign's a joke, a very bad one. 

I'm sorry the panel didn't mention the skywriting at the Rose Bowl Parade. 

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My terms "migrants" is the term used in the UK for Syrian and other refugees that are coming into Europe, mostly via Greece.  If you look at the "migrant camps" in Calais, France, most are inhabited by men, not families.  It's men who are jumping on lorries that are headed into the UK via the Chunnel.  

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What people have to realize is that people like Sarandon are highly paid by whatever organization they represent.  She really angered me when she said that the US is the only country who doesn't want to take in these migrants, and that's blatantly false.  There are many nations who don't want to take more in, including the UK, France, Italy, Hungary and now even Germany is admitting that they made a mistake by taking in so many and that their economy can't handle the influx.  And according to a Muslim-based aid group in London, a vast majority (83%) are solo men and not families, like Sarandon claimed.  And when she said "they're not terrorists", I want to know how she knows that none of these migrants are terrorists?  What funny is, so many celebrities are lecturing us on this issue, but I have yet to see one of them open their homes to a migrant family.

 

Does Raven really think her weird hairdos/wigs are good looks?  I like Sunni and think she has good points to bring forward.

 

I thought Sarandon said the migrants she spoke to did not want to come to the US not that the US wouldn't take them?

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A couple of hours ago I watched the show and then read some comments......had turned the channel to CNN and they were showing a bombed out Ramadi. Nothing there.....no homes, no commerce, no infrastructure.

I would not want to keep my family in a war-torn country where there is no life, only death, and my family sons being used for entertainment, or stolen to serve, or the kids used as human shields etc.

Sarandon went to Greece alone, and was not repping any organization. Opening one's home to refugees is not the only way to help, imo. She even said she has a list of ways to help on her FB.

I've not heard about the term migrant used in the USA and have looked into immigrants, illegal immigrants, and refugees. 3 very different things. Refugees are here legally. It seems that unlike us, countries freely opened their borders to all. With the close proximity of the ME areas and Europe it became a rapid problem due to the humanitarian crisis.

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I thought Sarandon said the migrants she spoke to did not want to come to the US not that the US wouldn't take them?

 

That's exactly what she said.  She said it twice, IIRC,  because she wanted to emphasize it.  She said not one of the people she spoke to wanted to come to the US.

 

Sarandon went to Greece alone, and was not repping any organization. Opening one's home to refugees is not the only way to help, imo. She even said she has a list of ways to help on her FB.

 

 

Yes, she was very emphatic about that also.  And I agree - There are certainly other ways to help, and she's doing far more than the vast majority of people.  I admire her for what she did and what she continues to do.  I thought her segment was fascinating and compelling, and I wish we would see more of that kind of thing on The View.

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I wish they'd kill the cooking segments. There are plenty of cooking shows on if you enjoy that stuff. I don't. It would have been nice to see a little more of the Natalie Cole tribute, but, of course they had no way of knowing she was going to die so that was something extra they added on to the already planned show.

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Does Raven really think her weird hairdos/wigs are good looks?

 

 

I hope she does.  I'm old enough to be her grandmother and I enjoy her vibrant and quirky outlook regarding hair and fashion. She doesn't hit the mark (a good mark) each and every time, but it's always entertaining.  It would be boring, at least for me, if everyone looked and dressed "normally." More power to her for remaining unique in the face of unfair critiques.  

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Thanks to all for your insights, catches that I missed, and snarky humor---such cleverness is sooooo appreciated.  My meager thoughts, you query?

 

Paula can say she will vote for Trump NOW, which will go out the window when he withdraws from the race, to save face, because I really, truly do not believe he will be the chosen Republican candiidate.

And--as Dissy noted, Paula, "overhearing" someone on the train--right, B.S., big time, as soon as I heard it. It's either made up, or an assistant to an assistant heard it, and as we all know, the telephone game bungles conversation up immensely.  Please, Paula, don't stoop to Bitsy's level.

 

Raven's wig matching her blouse was not attractive.  She brings nothing to the table, particularly while reading stats.  Yawn.

 

Whoopi disgusts as usual, amen-ing after every word Sunni was saying about Cosby, like she already knew.  Bleck.  My mother-in-law would do that in company.  She was really fast about agreeing to someone who sounded like they knew what they were talking about, as though she already knew.  Yuck.  Shut up Whoopi.  Your stuck your foot in your mouth about Cosby already and it still stinks, and we remember.  

 

Sunni sounded authoritative, however, she talks about herself too much.  Today, it was being a DJ in college.  Yeah, sure, for how long?  I have been jaded cuz so many celebrities claim authorship, and experience for  very little time put in to whatever it is.  Plus, Sunni talked to her father!!!!!  Wow, I'm impressed. Not.

 

The cooking thing was disorganized, and I kept trying to glean any REAL information from it about zero calories, but couldn't find it, and refuse to re-watch it. I'll browse the book at Barnes and Noble.

 

Joy was fine, although I didn't care that she forgot a swimsuit.  Lord in Heaven, is that what TV has come to? 

 

I'm done.  Thank you,

Goddess, for fast forward.

 

 

 

 

 

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Could not agree more Cosmo!

I am not afraid of refugees. Especially with background checks which is the fact now. Which take 18-24 months. And there is a lot we can do in the meantime to help the refugees.

Sarandon was right saying this is moral rather than political.

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 ETA:  If you are still reading, I'm sorry for the rant.   Just the fact that this table of constant interrupters actually let Susan Sarandon speak uninterrupted was amazing.  And I guess she got me fired up.  

 

It's always an amazement when a guest goes uninterrupted--and it's so rare on this show, too. I know people feel condescended to whenever celebrities give their opinion on causes, but they do have a right to give their opinion just like anyone else. And there's no denying their celebrity does mean they can create just a little more influence than the average person (usually), so props to Sarandon and Moore, among others both famous and unknown. Not everything is about political spin or ego; sometimes good intentions are genuine.

 

Joy's story was a bit odd. How is it possible to forget a bathing suit for that kind of vacation? I wonder if that's true or she felt a little insecure and didn't want to wear one, then had to explain it somehow when talking about her vacation on the show.

 

Paula saying "I overheard..." was dense. I've heard Republicans who will vote for Hillary, too. There are all kinds of kinds, Paula, what does that have to do with anything? She seemed subdued today, actually. Maybe because Candace wasn't there for back-up?

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I hope she does.  I'm old enough to be her grandmother and I enjoy her vibrant and quirky outlook regarding hair and fashion. She doesn't hit the mark (a good mark) each and every time, but it's always entertaining.  It would be boring, at least for me, if everyone looked and dressed "normally." More power to her for remaining unique in the face of unfair critiques.  

I'm fine with what Raven wears or how she does her hair, even if it's often a miss rather than a hit for me. It's the constant disdain on her face when anyone else is speaking and the childish retorts that I hate. It has to be a defense mechanism because everything coming out of her mouth is too stupid for her to have any reason to act superior.

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Joy's story was a bit odd. How is it possible to forget a bathing suit for that kind of vacation? I wonder if that's true or she felt a little insecure and didn't want to wear one, then had to explain it somehow when talking about her vacation on the show.

 

Paula saying "I overheard..." was dense. I've heard Republicans who will vote for Hillary, too. There are all kinds of kinds, Paula, what does that have to do with anything? She seemed subdued today, actually. Maybe because Candace wasn't there for back-up?

Both those stories felt a little "Bitsyesque"  in their nature.  For Joy it when when she said the cruise ship didn't have a shop to buy a swimsuit.  I guess none the stops in the Bahamas had a swim shop either.   So really not so  Bitsyesque because there was no point to it except maybe a failed attempt at a joke?  

 

But Paula's story was lame and here's why:  First, If I am having a conversation with another Democrat then I really don't need to announce my political affiliation because ostensibly we know each other and if we are talking politics they know I'm a Democrat.  Secondly. does Paula think that means Democrats are supporting Trump en masse?  So yes, Bitsyesque because she could have just said, "I think there are Trump supporters who used to be Democrats." and skipped the story.  

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Joy's story was a bit odd. How is it possible to forget a bathing suit for that kind of vacation? I wonder if that's true or she felt a little insecure and didn't want to wear one, then had to explain it somehow when talking about her vacation on the show.

 

Paula saying "I overheard..." was dense. I've heard Republicans who will vote for Hillary, too. There are all kinds of kinds, Paula, what does that have to do with anything? She seemed subdued today, actually. Maybe because Candace wasn't there for back-up?

 

Well, let me tell you - It is possible to forget a bathing suit for that kind of vacation.  I did.  I  went on a beach vacation once, and didn't bring a bathing suit, so to me it was believable.  This was a few years ago, and I still can't get over how stupid I was.  I'm a very organized person, and I have no idea how I made such a dumb mistake.  I would never go on vacation and not bring at least a few, but that time I didn't bring any.  It baffles me to this day.  But it happened.

 

I don't think she felt insecure and needed a way to explain it on the show.  She easily could have provided a photo of them having dinner or doing something else, and I think that's what she would have done if she didn't have the bathing suit story to tell.  I think it really happened, and she shared it because she thought it was funny.  I kind of thought it was funny when it happened to me too.  Although I wasn't thrilled at having to swim in shorts and a t-shirt.  :-/

 

As for Paula, I didn't understand the point she was trying to make.  A couple of random Democrats are talking about voting for Trump?  So what?  They're not the only ones, and here's a news flash:  Some Republicans are planning to cross party lines too, and lots of people will change their minds between now and Election Day.  So why was that even worth mentioning?  With the long break they just had, she had nothing more substantial to say?  I thought she was smarter than that.

 

I'm fine with what Raven wears or how she does her hair, even if it's often a miss rather than a hit for me. It's the constant disdain on her face when anyone else is speaking and the childish retorts that I hate. It has to be a defense mechanism because everything coming out of her mouth is too stupid for her to have any reason to act superior.

 

I wouldn't notice or care what Raven wore or how she did her hair if she added anything - anything at all! - to this show.  I agree - "constant disdain" and "childish retorts".  She is incredibly ignorant and immature, and clearly thinks she's better and more in the know than everyone else when it's actually quite the opposite.  I really dislike her because of that.  I also don't like the attention-getting things she does with her appearance, but I could overlook that in favor of her better qualities.  If she had any.

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Sarandon is a Goodwill Ambassador for UNICEF.  She reported her experiences in Greece for both the Huffington Post and RYOT - not what strikes me as money making endeavors..  Hat's off to Milk-Eyed Monster for posting the truth about the composition of Syrian refugees.  It makes my blood boil when people refer to refugees as migrants in an attempt to whitewash the gravity and political/economic danger of the situation.

 

Raven's wig was awful, they should have cut short Hot Topics to give the Dispirito commercial and Natalie Cole full attention.

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Guess I'll be watching today's show online later. The guests were people I actually wanted to see.


Did anyone notice a sizable amount of applause from the audience when SS said the refugees she spoke to didn't want to come to USA?  If I was in that audience I would've felt so sad about the lack of compassion.

Yes. It's sad how many in the US look down upon people in need and usually don't have any compassion for people in that position unless they somehow end up that way too.

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Did anyone notice a sizable amount of applause from the audience when SS said the refugees she spoke to didn't want to come to USA?  If I was in that audience I would've felt so sad about the lack of compassion.

Started reading from the bottom and wondered when Sherri (same initials as Susan!) had spoken to refugees (as well as why she was back after saying she had too much stuff going on)

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When Joy mentioned the cruise & grandma,  I think Raven shouted out to her mother that yes she knows SHE looks like grandma - in that gray hair.

 

I was wondering how long it would take Raven to mention her mother for the first time in 2016.  It took about three minutes.   That girl never disappoints.  

 

 

Did anyone notice a sizable amount of applause from the audience when SS said the refugees she spoke to didn't want to come to USA?  If I was in that audience I would've felt so sad about the lack of compassion.

 

I noticed that applause, too.  I wondered what it meant for a moment, then I told myself it must be the sound of people acknowledging that Susan Sarandon was right - that far from being budding terrorists who are all scheming to get into the US just to make trouble, these refugees don't really want to come to the US at all.   But you are probably right.  That applause was more likely the sound of people being shamelessly callous and snide.  I guess I am still living in my little Happy Holidays bubble over here.  Time to snap out of it, I guess.   

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Brandon from Humans of New York was on a CNN show with Aya, a refugee with a heart-breaking story whose cause HONY is championing. He said that there are millions of refugees and that the U.S. is taking in 10,000. He visited camps in Turkey and spoke to many of them. The thing that he said that really got to me is that the U.S. has the luxury of picking and choosing, and the ones we are opening our doors to either have (a) a Ph.D. or (b) a horrible physical handicap.

 

I applaud Susan Sarandon for her compassion.

 

Yesterday's show was good, in no small part to Whoopi being in a good mood. I would tune in happily if that Whoopi showed up every day instead of grouchy, finger-shaking, lecturing, bullying, misanthropic Whoopi. I'm afraid to watch today!

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