Ohwell October 12, 2015 Share October 12, 2015 Thomas Roberts just finished interviewing Snooki. MSNBC has gone down the crapper. 1 Link to comment
Ladyrain October 12, 2015 Share October 12, 2015 And for the opportunity to do THAT, they cancel The Cycle, Alex Wagner and Ed Schulz. God forbid that we viewers - the ones who are left, at this point - receive actual information about politics, world events, climate change....all that stuff that affects our lives. Thomas must have been gritting his teeth through that whole "interview". 2 Link to comment
Kemper October 14, 2015 Share October 14, 2015 I just saw where the first couple of weeks of Chuck Todd's reign at 5:00 has been a ratings disaster, a good deal worse than Ed's. I have to wonder if his ratings don't really matter to management, as long as he gets the company line out every day they will keep him on. I don't know who makes me crazier...him or Joe Scarborough. I think it is Todd, because you always know Joe is going to shout over everyone and pimp the crazy from the Republicans. Todd pretends he is a journalist....Joe has no such delusions. I don't think, anyway. Delusions of grandeur, maybe. 4 Link to comment
potatoradio October 14, 2015 Share October 14, 2015 I usually only watch TRMS, but I've occasionally tried other shows and I seriously want to know why some of these hosts even bother having guests when it's clear they're simply going to interrupt and browbeat and not listen to a thing the guests say. It was friggin' embarrassing to watch Chris Matthews try to grill Carly Fiorina after the Rep. debate. She clearly answered his question, but instead of probing further into her response, CM simply started yelling (complete with spittle...attractive) his question and including "But don't you think that...[repeat question]" No, Chris, she clearly doesn't think that. Try a different question or probe her response a bit if you're thrown off, but at least look like you're making an attempt to engage her. Last night, I watched Chris Hayes display unbelievable rudeness to a Clinton campaign rep. The rep would hardly get a word out before CH pounced and snottily tried to steer the conversation to "why Bernie should be the Dem. candidate." Would it kill these guys to bone up on interviewing skills? They come off looking immature, rude and bombastic, which is what I expect from Fox, and, wow, that's a major sadz this day. 2 Link to comment
NextIteration October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 Last night, I watched Chris Hayes display unbelievable rudeness to a Clinton campaign rep. The rep would hardly get a word out before CH pounced and snottily tried to steer the conversation to "why Bernie should be the Dem. candidate." Was it David Brock? He seriously comes off pretty slimey himself, one of Clinton's slipperiest of supporters, imho. 3 Link to comment
junemeatcleaver October 15, 2015 Share October 15, 2015 I really despise the new daytime lineup and find it ridiculous when they have Brian Williams stomp on Hall, Mitchell and Robert's shows where they should remain the lead and he a contributor. His presence as "breaking news anchor" makes no sense. I get the anchoring for special events like the Pope, but why have Williams pop up when, say, the President speaks when whoever is anchoring that hour is more than capable of doing what BW can. Either give Brian Williams his own program, keep him at home until there's some special event or some truly earth shattering breaking news or bite the bullet and buy out his contract to get him to go away. 3 Link to comment
Andyourlittledog2 October 27, 2015 Share October 27, 2015 (edited) Some bumper stickers we should totally see for this next election: You’re ugly and your mother dresses you funny. Trump 2016 What? I can’t have layers? Clinton 2016 You don’t need a brain to do brain surgery. Carson 2016 Babies for Bernie. Cute? Or mandate? Sanders 2016 Because he could be doing a lot more fun things right now than running for president. Vote Jeb! Jeb! 2016 You know, I've noticed that MSNBC does more Trump coverage than the other cable news networks and I think it's because of their long standing entertainment relationship with the asshole. They give him maximum free coverage/publicity and reap the rewards when he loses (he'll never win general vote) and comes back to NBC with Celebrity Apprentice or something else. I mean,now that they've seen that he takes no real hits over his obnoxious ignorant comments and behavior. And this whole thing makes me hate MSNBC right now. I watch it, but I'm mostly mad when I do. Great marketing plan that -- fill up the schedule with conservative interviews and press conferences. I hope this whole new MSNBC tanks big time -- but only so they go back to a more progressive leaning schedule and a lot less Trump. Edited October 27, 2015 by Andyourlittledog2 3 Link to comment
Ladyrain October 28, 2015 Share October 28, 2015 First let me say I like Chris Hayes; I've followed him around MSNBC's ever-changing schedule and watch him most nights. But ---- am I the only one who thinks he sounds slightly inebriated when he speaks? I am in no way saying that he is, only that he slurs his words and phrases when trying to talk so quickly (what's the rush? The show is an hour long) that if I knew how to engage the closed-captioning on my TV, it would be totally on during All In so I coud figure out what the hell he is saying. 1 Link to comment
Ohwell October 28, 2015 Share October 28, 2015 I've found Chris Hayes to be unwatchable sometimes because he seems too eager to interrupt his guests so that he can get his point across. He doesn't know how to relax and let the guests have their say. 1 Link to comment
Ladyrain October 28, 2015 Share October 28, 2015 I agree with you, Ohwell. Chris does need to learn how to dial it back. I can't recall; was he always this over-zealous? I'm trying to figure out if it's because he's simply that passionate about the subject matter or if the network's rating czars are breathing down his neck to Create The Drama and he's desperate to keep his show on air. Lord knows his daytime co-horts have been dropping like flies. ~~~ On a related note, I just read an article (I'd provide a link but am totally clueless how to do that) stating that Rachel's ratings are up double digits and Fox's are falling. Actually I think the article mentioned MSNBC's nighttime ratings up across the board. Maybe I even read that on here, via someone else's link. Good news. Link to comment
ktwo October 28, 2015 Share October 28, 2015 I'm not sure what it is about Chris Hayes, but both my husband and I loved him on Up, and neither of us like either his nightly show or Kornackie on Up anywhere near as much. He does interrupt - maybe it seemed more like moderating with the panel on Up than it does now with just one guest on All In. 1 Link to comment
Wax Lion October 28, 2015 Share October 28, 2015 Last night, I watched Chris Hayes display unbelievable rudeness to a Clinton campaign rep. The rep would hardly get a word out before CH pounced and snottily tried to steer the conversation to "why Bernie should be the Dem. candidate." Was it David Brock? He seriously comes off pretty slimey himself, one of Clinton's slipperiest of supporters, imho. Yeah, if it was Brock, he's a Clinton supporter who really needs to be tightly interviewed. I liked Brock's "Blinded By the Right" but when he's not breaking down right wing lies, I think the Brock who wrote that horrible Anita Hill "expose" comes out. Sadly, it's made me think a little less of Brock, who I used to really like. Link to comment
Ladyrain October 28, 2015 Share October 28, 2015 (edited) That's a salient point about Chris being more tolerable on UP than he is now. He would have to have been more interruptive moderating an entire panel who were over-talking one another, just to keep it manageable. And no, that tactic does not work well in a one-on-one interview. Thanks for that insight, ktwo. Edited October 28, 2015 by Ladyrain Link to comment
potatoradio November 9, 2015 Share November 9, 2015 Was it David Brock? He seriously comes off pretty slimey himself, one of Clinton's slipperiest of supporters, imho. Yep, it was. I'm not familiar with him at all. I can see some interviewees needing a more forceful interviewer so they can't dodge questions. So, I can understand CH playing the role of a tough as nails interviewer; I do think continually interrupting and shouting over the person, though, isn't going to necessarily get the interview into a more productive format and instead of pulling out a tough interview, it just appears that CH wants to be seen as "tough". Then again, I also hate with a passion any kind of "panel discussion." Oh my god, NOBODY gets a complete sentence out before they're all screaming (and it's really bad if there's a time delay so that one person catches the conversion five or ten seconds later and then we have another screamer enter late). How about everyone agree to take a breath and listen to what someone says before you open your mouth? 4 Link to comment
NextIteration November 10, 2015 Share November 10, 2015 Yep, it was. I'm not familiar with him at all. David Brock was a proud card carrying member of "the vast right-wing conspiracy" that upon further thorough examination of many of the Clinton stories/scandals that he created and contributed to in publications like the American Spectator did a complete 180, he founded Media Matters. Link to comment
stormy November 14, 2015 Share November 14, 2015 OMG I can't stand Chris Matthews. His constant cheerleading of Trump while feigning disgust over everything Trump says and does is so phony. 1 Link to comment
Sharpie66 November 16, 2015 Share November 16, 2015 I was watching MSNBC on Friday night while they were covering the Paris story. I was getting sooo frustrated with Brian Williams, who was alternating between rather fatuous comments, simplistic questions, and then insisting that the attack was "unsophisticated" or "low-tech" because they used AK-47s, grenades, and suicide belts, even though the Mid-East experts he was talking to kept pointing out that the level of communication needed to carry out a multiple-location attack and keep it all very quiet in the planning stages indicates that it was anything but unsophisticated. At least when Rachel took over at her usual time, and then Chris Hayes two hours later, they started asking better questions than Williams did. I loved it when one of the experts gave Williams a slam when he said, "Someone earlier [read, Williams] was saying that this was unsophisticated, when it was anything but...", and Rachel had Williams sitting next to her when this guy said that. Oh, burn! 5 Link to comment
HyeChaps November 16, 2015 Share November 16, 2015 At one point Brian Williams started to recount a personal experience of his when he was in the Middle East. I'm sure the alarm bells started ringing in the managerial offices of MSNBC. 11 Link to comment
NextIteration November 18, 2015 Share November 18, 2015 Someone pretty please, make Brian WIlliams go away! 2 Link to comment
Ohwell November 18, 2015 Share November 18, 2015 Ok, I'm going to say it now: I am officially tired of all the Paris coverage. Yes, it's still news, but there is no need for it to be on MSNBC 24/7. Also, there is a French woman reporter whose last name is Haim, and I know she's got a French accent but her struggling to speak English is really getting on my nerves. 3 Link to comment
NextIteration November 18, 2015 Share November 18, 2015 Ok, I'm going to say it now: I am officially tired of all the Paris coverage. Yes, it's still news, but there is no need for it to be on MSNBC 24/7. Also, there is a French woman reporter whose last name is Haim, and I know she's got a French accent but her struggling to speak English is really getting on my nerves. It's all disaster porn at this point. 7 Link to comment
stormy November 19, 2015 Share November 19, 2015 (edited) Yes, how long will Chris Hayes (and the entire CNN staff) be holding court from Paris? And what is the point? Edited November 19, 2015 by stormy 1 Link to comment
junemeatcleaver November 21, 2015 Share November 21, 2015 I get that MSNBC wants to distance themselves from their former liberal branding, but it would have been nice to watch Melissa Harris-Perry this morning to see her and her panel's take on the Paris terrorism and the reactions from US politicians to the tragedy. It's great to see Harry Smith, but they're doing nothing but rehashing the same news at this point. 4 Link to comment
Ohwell December 4, 2015 Share December 4, 2015 MSNBC has reached a new low. They've got Kerry Sanders inside the two San Bernadino terrorists' apartment, going through their shit. I watched incredulously for about five minutes, then got disgusted with myself. I do not want to see their vile shit. 2 Link to comment
NextIteration December 4, 2015 Share December 4, 2015 MSNBC has reached a new low. They've got Kerry Sanders inside the two San Bernadino terrorists' apartment, going through their shit. I watched incredulously for about five minutes, then got disgusted with myself. I do not want to see their vile shit. Seems it's MSNBC and lots of other news organizations with all the people and cameras. Anyways, how weird is it to have a computer in a baby's nursery? Link to comment
Ohwell December 4, 2015 Share December 4, 2015 Anyways, how weird is it to have a computer in a baby's nursery? It's not weird if you plan to radicalize the baby as soon as it's able to read. 2 Link to comment
junemeatcleaver December 4, 2015 Share December 4, 2015 Seems it's MSNBC and lots of other news organizations with all the people and cameras. All of that was very weird to me. I guess invading the privacy of family members is okay now that we know it's Islamic based terrorism. I really wonder if MSNBC would have accidentally doxxed family members of Dylann Roof or that Dear guy who shot up that Planned Parenthood if given a chance to go through their homes. 6 Link to comment
NewDigs December 8, 2015 Share December 8, 2015 (edited) I tired of Mika's adoring Joe-gazes and have tired of Joe so have dodged the "Morning Joe" bullet until right now as they replay the Trumpster's morning spewings. Ugh. Like passing a carwreck, I don't seem able to look away. But, what has Joe done to himself? Botox? A good peel? That ridiculous pompadour? And now I feel so dirty. I agree with Cheney. (eta: or maybe it's that dick finally agrees wih me? I'm confused...) But thank goodness for Eugene Robinson. And Mark Helperin. And the others. Edited December 8, 2015 by NewDigs Link to comment
NextIteration December 8, 2015 Share December 8, 2015 I can't believe that they are re-airing this trash. On the bright side? Where is Brian Williams? He's been no where near "breaking news" lately. Link to comment
NewDigs December 8, 2015 Share December 8, 2015 Imho he didn't do that great of a job reporting the Paris attacks. Maybe he's been sidelined? Link to comment
junemeatcleaver December 8, 2015 Share December 8, 2015 (edited) On the bright side? Where is Brian Williams? He's been no where near "breaking news" lately. Good. MSNBC should just give him the occasional special to keep him happy until his contract runs out. Oh it looks like Brian Williams will probably be back, he's just taking time off after having back surgery: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-brian-williams-back-surgery-20151201-story.html Edited December 8, 2015 by junemeatcleaver Link to comment
Ohwell December 8, 2015 Share December 8, 2015 Kate Snow is pretty useless as it is IMO, but today she had on some big-ass dangle earrings that were very distracting. Maybe she was going to a Christmas party later on but she should have worn those things after her show. Link to comment
NextIteration December 21, 2015 Share December 21, 2015 Can somebody explain why Katy Tur goes out of her way to defend Trump all the time when he has no qualms about slamming and humiliating her in front of his supporters? 2 Link to comment
junemeatcleaver December 21, 2015 Share December 21, 2015 Can somebody explain why Katy Tur goes out of her way to defend Trump all the time when he has no qualms about slamming and humiliating her in front of his supporters? Access. Trailing Trump is the best gig going for reporters right now, no reasonably ambitious reporter is going to throw away a high profile spot on the news to say what they really think of the person they're following. Andy Lack claims they had to re-brand MSNBC into a "breaking news" channel or else be clobbered in the ratings: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/21/can-msnbc-re-center-itself-andy-lack-on-breaking-news-today-and-brian-williams.html “Had we not made this turn to breaking news with seriousness of purpose, in these times and in this election, we would have been clobbered,” he said. “As reasonable as that [discarded liberal] programming was for when it was created, we’re in a long game now… This is maybe the most interesting election of my lifetime… The world has never been more dangerous in my lifetime.” Link to comment
jjj December 21, 2015 Share December 21, 2015 I am really pleased to see Erica Hill on air recently on MSNBC -- today she is anchoring the early evening slot (I'm usually not home at this time; is it the Chuck Todd slot?). She is calm and focused, and seems to be well prepared, handled a glitch well (when someone played the wrong Obama clip). If she is being used as fill-in during the holidays, along with Alex Wagner on other shows, that would be a good holiday week of anchoring replacements. 3 Link to comment
stormy December 22, 2015 Share December 22, 2015 Today it's reported Trump has only spent $200,000 on advertising. I'm shocked it's that much. He gets more free coverage than any candidate probably in history. Hell, tomorrow Chris Matthews has a special "Citizen Trump". Sad. Very sad. 3 Link to comment
jjj December 22, 2015 Share December 22, 2015 (edited) Tonight, near the end of the Rachel Maddow show, she cited his current poll number and said that no one at that level has ever failed to get the Republican party nomination, in the years that polling has existed. But she also ran a more critical segment about his most recent mis-speaking. (Sorry I am vague on the details -- cookie baking had to happen while I was listening!) Edited December 22, 2015 by jjj Link to comment
Sharpie66 December 22, 2015 Share December 22, 2015 I just hope that someone on MSNBC tonight manages to slam Trump for his horribly misogynistic comments about Hillary last night --between the "schlonging" she got from Obama in 2008 (not only misogynistic, but also racist to boot) and then his saying that her having to go to the bathroom during the break at the Democratic debate was "too disgusting" to even mention (but he did anyway). 3 Link to comment
Ohwell December 22, 2015 Share December 22, 2015 Trump loves to get slammed by the likes of MSNBC. He just loves to hear the sound of his name, doesn't matter if it's negative. The best thing to do at this point is just ignore his more outrageous comments. I understand that the media has to report it as "news" but they'll keep harping on it instead of just moving on. 3 Link to comment
NextIteration December 22, 2015 Share December 22, 2015 Hell, Matthews is basically doing a tribute to Trump in place of Hardball tonight. He's been promoting it all day as far as I can tell. He was just on with Erica Hill and I know he was on Morning Joe. @jjj, Erica Hill is in the hour between MTP Daily and Hardball. 1 Link to comment
jjj December 23, 2015 Share December 23, 2015 (edited) I just hope that someone on MSNBC tonight manages to slam Trump for his horribly misogynistic comments about Hillary last night --between the "schlonging" she got from Obama in 2008 (not only misogynistic, but also racist to boot) and then his saying that her having to go to the bathroom during the break at the Democratic debate was "too disgusting" to even mention (but he did anyway). And indeed, Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O'Donnell both led with this -- plus his comments about reporters: "I hate them, but I wouldn't kill them". Rachel related this back to George Wallace attacks on the press by inviting a guest who described the uneasiness of reporters singled out by Wallace. Lawrence got a quote from a Yiddish scholar at Harvard about the meaning of "schlong": "Vulgar," is the academic determination. @jjj, Erica Hill is in the hour between MTP Daily and Hardball. Thank you! I have no idea of what the daytime schedule is. (That is still daytime on the West Coast.) Edited December 23, 2015 by jjj 1 Link to comment
Andyourlittledog2 December 31, 2015 Share December 31, 2015 Does NBC understand that any time they cut to Trump speaking -- either live or in a clip -- I have to ff or change the channel? At this point I couldn't listen to him read the phone book without wanting to do something violent to whoever ic giving this ass air time. My MSNBC viewing time is decreasing exponentially. 9 Link to comment
Wax Lion December 31, 2015 Share December 31, 2015 Tonight, near the end of the Rachel Maddow show, she cited his current poll number and said that no one at that level has ever failed to get the Republican party nomination, in the years that polling has existed. I just watched that and she said that there hasn't been a candidate to reach a 20 point advantage over their next-closest rival who hasn't won the nomination. That's a scary thought. A few weeks ago she talked to a pollster who said the current Trump surge was due to him bringing in new likely voters. That's scarier but it does raise a question of if they'll really show up to vote, especially for the Iowa caucus. IIRC, Obama's campaign did a lot to prepare supporters to go to the Iowa Caucus for the first time (though their coaching couldn't involve talking about actual candidates), I haven't heard if Trump is doing the same. 1 Link to comment
Padma December 31, 2015 Share December 31, 2015 It's okay if Trump wins the nomination, though. Scary, but okay. Because, barring some scandal or violent event here, an egomaniacal billionaire whose never served in the military OR held any political office (elective or otherwise), CAN'T get a majority of votes/electoral college votes. He just ... can't. It would be a "take no prisoners" campaign from Trump, but I feel confident that, if Hillary stays focused on policy, he would turn off a record number of voters, maybe even help bring in a Democratic majority in Congress. Trump is painful to listen to, but a win (nomination only!) isn't necessarily bad. 5 Link to comment
ktwo January 6, 2016 Share January 6, 2016 MSNBC struck some deal with Bloomberg and is now airing Heilmann & Halperin's show at 6 pm, an hour after Bloomberg airs it. Link to comment
Jaded January 6, 2016 Author Share January 6, 2016 MSNBC struck some deal with Bloomberg and is now airing Heilmann & Halperin's show at 6 pm, an hour after Bloomberg airs it. Gross. I haven't watched anything on MSNBC except for Rachel occasionally. I've tried watching in the morning and midday a few times and only lasted a couple minutes. Link to comment
jjj January 7, 2016 Share January 7, 2016 MSNBC struck some deal with Bloomberg and is now airing Heilmann & Halperin's show at 6 pm, an hour after Bloomberg airs it. I saw "Morning Joe" making a big deal of this on Monday, and had no idea what this was. I have no plans to watch more than the 30 seconds I saw yesterday. And Erica Hill had been in that slot over the holiday, so I miss her on top of not liking this new show. Does NBC understand that any time they cut to Trump speaking -- either live or in a clip -- I have to ff or change the channel? I can't stand him but MSNBC is actually doing us a service by making clear how much viability his campaign is generating. Those crowds showing up for the Trump rallies are not there because they are watching MSNBC, and the coverage on MSNBC is not creating new support for him (did you SEE the video comparisons of his rallies to George Wallace rallies on Rachel Maddow's show on Tuesday? Yikes.) It's probably good that I'm not thinking this will default to Rubio or someone in his clump of candidates. But I mute when he is talking, absolutely. 1 Link to comment
shok January 7, 2016 Share January 7, 2016 But I mute when he is talking, absolutely The problem with just muting instead of changing the channel is that your digital device still records it as watching MSNBC and it adds you into the ratings. The only way that MSNBC could get the message that Trump is poison is if people turned their tv's off en masse and their ratings plummeted (even further). I can't stand him but MSNBC is actually doing us a service by making clear how much viability his campaign is generating. Those crowds showing up for the Trump rallies are not there because they are watching MSNBC, and the coverage on MSNBC is not creating new support for him I beg to differ. Trump is yoooooge because of the mass media coverage he's gotten. Unfortunately, his message has resonated with a lot of the people who tuned in to see/hear him because he was a loud-mouthed well known tv star but if he was an unknown buffoon, nobody would have paid any attention to him in the first place. 2 Link to comment
slensam January 7, 2016 Share January 7, 2016 The problem with just muting instead of changing the channel is that your digital device still records it as watching MSNBC and it adds you into the ratings. The only way that MSNBC could get the message that Trump is poison is if people turned their tv's off en masse and their ratings plummeted (even further). I beg to differ. Trump is yoooooge because of the mass media coverage he's gotten. Unfortunately, his message has resonated with a lot of the people who tuned in to see/hear him because he was a loud-mouthed well known tv star but if he was an unknown buffoon, nobody would have paid any attention to him in the first place. Definitely! It's the media that's making this sumbitch. If I was a Kasich or Jeb fan, which I'm not, I'd be pissed. 2 Link to comment
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