Padma July 15, 2016 Share July 15, 2016 When will enough be enough with Williams? His comparison of the president's comments with Richard Pryor was bad enough. There's no excuse for using "plowed over" in such an inappropriate way. Without the Nice tragedy, it's a word he'd -never- have used in handing over to Matthews. Does he think he's clever? Is he getting senile? Williams' "redemption arc" as the breaking news guy on MSNBC isn't working. How much longer do we have to suffer through his gaffes and smugness -- plus having him keep bumping others who could cover these stories better? He got his second chance (more than many ever get) and he failed. If they still need to keep him on-air (contractual reasons?) then he needs a greatly reduced role. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2408436
xaxat July 16, 2016 Share July 16, 2016 (edited) So, did Brian decide to take off to the Hamptons this weekend? Orlando, Dallas and Nice were important stories, but they pale in comparison to an attempted coup in a NATO ally. ETA (Oops. Spoke too soon. Maybe he took a helicopter back.) Edited July 16, 2016 by xaxat 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2408645
jjj July 16, 2016 Share July 16, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, xaxat said: So, did Brian decided to take off to the Hamptons this weekend? ETA (Oops. Spoke too soon. Maybe he took a helicopter back.) Noooooo........! I was enjoying (appreciating is probably a better word) the coverage of Turkey, chaotic as it was, with Chris and Rachel. "I'm just doing my job. But I don't believe any of these numbers." Said Brian after reading statistics from the uprising in Turkey. Edited July 16, 2016 by jjj Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2408845
Milburn Stone July 16, 2016 Share July 16, 2016 (edited) 14 hours ago, Padma said: Does he think he's clever? Yes. As for "just doing my job, don't believe," what the hell is that supposed to mean? Brian, you've been given these numbers by your producer to read on the air because your producer deems them sufficiently credible. By questioning the numbers, you're positioning yourself above your own network, and undermining it. Edited July 16, 2016 by Milburn Stone 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2409432
Moose135 July 18, 2016 Share July 18, 2016 My first experience with MSNBC and Brian Williams came 20 years ago tonight, July 17, 1996. I lived on Long Island, and had gone out to the Poconos for the NASCAR weekend. When I got out to my mother-in-law's place there, I heard about the crash of TWA Flight 800. My father is a TWA retiree, so I grew up around the airline, and went looking for news on the crash. I discovered MSNBC on Mom's cable system - it had premiered two days earlier, and stayed up most of the night watching Williams and the rest of the staff cover the news of the crash. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2412518
Padma July 18, 2016 Share July 18, 2016 So this is how Chris Matthews plans to cover the GOP Convention? If tonight is any indication it will center around (1) pushing racial divisions--in a way that will echo Trump's tweets; (2) pushing Pence and how he will help win the Rust Belt because he's a white evangelical Christian who "gets that it's about the economy there"; and (3) talking over anyone who tries to fact check Trump (tonight it was David Corn struggling to get Chris to listen to the fact that Trump continues to misrepresent that he was NOT against the Iraq war prior to 2004. It's been so well documented, but as soon as he started, Chris cut him off and tried to direct his comments in a more sympathetic way. It should be an interesting week, but not on cable where emotion, inaccuracies and heavy spin seem to be on the agenda. How I miss the old days with real journalists reporting from the floor and real experts being interviewed for background and color. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2412762
potatoradio July 18, 2016 Share July 18, 2016 Quote When will enough be enough with Williams? Not soon enough. I haven't checked to see who is covering the convention, but wife already has proclaimed that she won't watch MSNBC if Williams is "anchoring" (aka, listening to a podcast for mansplaining points before practicing cutting off everyone else with an irrelevant and pointless angle). This is frustrating, because it means I can't see Maddow, which is all kinds of wrong. I can't laugh at Kornacki and his fumble map fingers. I think MSNBC is also the network that sometimes has Jeremy Peters as a correspondent, and he's entertaining to me because I can tell he wants to be far snarkier than he is, but he has to rein it in as a Big NYT deal reporter. I think the RNC this year may tip him over the edge, though. I can't watch ANY OF this because BriWi has made watching MSNBC a no go. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr. I've convinced her to give it a shot tonight, but she's already planning on switching to C-SPAN at the slightest offense. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2413258
maraleia July 18, 2016 Share July 18, 2016 PBS is covering the conventions with Judy Woodruff and Gwen Ifill as anchors with an assist by NPR so there's that choice. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2413273
potatoradio July 18, 2016 Share July 18, 2016 Quote PBS is covering the conventions with Judy Woodruff and Gwen Ifill as anchors with an assist by NPR so there's that choice Oh - doh! Of course. Thank you - evening saved! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2413333
jenrising July 18, 2016 Share July 18, 2016 Watched for five minutes yesterday and that's enough for me. Brian Williams blathers nonsense, then Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes have a really interesting conversation, then back to mindless blather man. WHY??? 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2413368
Mumbles July 18, 2016 Share July 18, 2016 As I saw Brian Williams on MSNBC at midnight last night talking about the identity of the Baton Rouge shooter - certainly important news but "breaking"? - I realized that we will never not see this guy until he is physically prohibited from entering NBC. And moreover, this pathological need to be seen and heard is what got him in trouble in the first place. Did other news anchors have some pathetic need to appear on their network's entertainment shows? Sure, Rather would go on Letterman occasionally, but to talk about the news, not to "slow-jam" it. Did Brokaw make SNL appearances? Or appear on NBC sitcoms? The idea of Williams retiring quietly on the multimillionaires of dollars he made off NBC will never happen. When this gig expires, he will go somewhere else. Even if it's Internet-based. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2413415
Milburn Stone July 18, 2016 Share July 18, 2016 I'm considering switching to CBS only because I think John Dickerson is good. (Extraordinarily good for someone on TV. How did that happen?) But they don't start coverage till 9 Central tonight. Which I guess is in time for Melania's speech, but still. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2413661
jjj July 18, 2016 Share July 18, 2016 2 hours ago, Mumbles said: As I saw Brian Williams on MSNBC at midnight last night talking about the identity of the Baton Rouge shooter - certainly important news but "breaking"? - I realized that we will never not see this guy until he is physically prohibited from entering NBC. Oh. let me top that -- it was still airing as a recycled broadcast past midnight on the West Coast, with "BREAKING" still plastered at the bottom of the screen. It was not even "BREAKING" when he did that broadcast the first time. I switched to CNN, which was in Nice, *live*, where it was 9:45 AM and sunny and heartbroken. (I was not going to say anything about finding recycled Brian W "BREAKING" on non-breaking news, but you opened the door...) Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2413759
jjj July 18, 2016 Share July 18, 2016 5 hours ago, potatoradio said: I think MSNBC is also the network that sometimes has Jeremy Peters as a correspondent, and he's entertaining to me because I can tell he wants to be far snarkier than he is, but he has to rein it in as a Big NYT deal reporter. I think the RNC this year may tip him over the edge, though. Here is a NY Times article from today that refers to Jeremy Peters' coverage, asks if the media will have the guts to provide actual reporting, and also tells us that The Trump Campaign has hired a recent spokesman from the Ultimate Fighting Championship to rebut the press coverage of the convention. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/18/business/media/republican-convention-will-push-limits-of-trump-and-the-news-media.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2414206
NewDigs July 18, 2016 Share July 18, 2016 8 hours ago, potatoradio said: Not soon enough. I haven't checked to see who is covering the convention, but wife already has proclaimed that she won't watch MSNBC if Williams is "anchoring" (aka, listening to a podcast for mansplaining points before practicing cutting off everyone else with an irrelevant and pointless angle). This is frustrating, because it means I can't see Maddow, which is all kinds of wrong. I can't laugh at Kornacki and his fumble map fingers. I think MSNBC is also the network that sometimes has Jeremy Peters as a correspondent, and he's entertaining to me because I can tell he wants to be far snarkier than he is, but he has to rein it in as a Big NYT deal reporter. I think the RNC this year may tip him over the edge, though. I can't watch ANY OF this because BriWi has made watching MSNBC a no go. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr. I've convinced her to give it a shot tonight, but she's already planning on switching to C-SPAN at the slightest offense. Bolding mine. I tried that Saturday night, I think. Figured I'd check out whichever C-Span did books. There was a panel discussing Trump's Art of the Deal. But really glad to see Chris Hayes reporting on the RNC chaos earlier today. ::shallow note:: Did he get new glasses? I like the blue frames. Don't usually watch his show. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2414756
jjj July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 (edited) I have MSNBC on -- are they just going to do live-streaming of the RNC, and maybe commentary later? Because these speakers are too much for me! If they are starting commentary around midnight ET, I'll tune in then. I'm willing to try MSNBC to see what mix of panel they put together. ETA: Oh, now I see Rachel and Brian. Rachel, very somber, about the mother of a son killed in Benghazi: "It is hard for me to see someone grieving that hard...calling Hillary Clinton a murderer is playing with a very specific kind of fire that I find very hard to watch." Eugene Robinson: "It gets pretty grim...To say someone should be in stripes [prison] is the kind of rhetoric we are not used to hearing at a convention." Chris Mathews: "It is wrong to get up there and tell a lie about Hillary Clinton." Okay then. Edited July 19, 2016 by jjj Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2414905
Ohwell July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 I won't be watching either the Republican or Democratic convention (I'm sick to death of this election cycle) but I heard there would be a speaker tonight, an actor from The Bold and the Beautiful soap opera. Since I watch that show sometimes, I'm curious to know who he is. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2414921
Rhetorica July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 Did anyone see this? I couldn't believe what I heard and had to look it up. SMH..... http://www.salon.com/2016/07/19/rep_steve_king_defends_rncs_lack_of_diversity_where_did_any_other_subgroup_of_people_contribute_more_to_civilization/ 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2414935
3pwood July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 5 minutes ago, Ohwell said: I won't be watching either the Republican or Democratic convention (I'm sick to death of this election cycle) but I heard there would be a speaker tonight, an actor from The Bold and the Beautiful soap opera. Since I watch that show sometimes, I'm curious to know who he is. The Washington Post reports this: Quote ... There are two soap opera stars: Antonio Sabato Jr. of "General Hospital" fame and Kimberlin Brown of "The Young and the Restless" and "The Bold and the Beautiful" .... 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2414949
jjj July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Rhetorica said: Did anyone see this? I couldn't believe what I heard and had to look it up. SMH.....http://www.salon.com/2016/07/19/rep_steve_king_defends_rncs_lack_of_diversity_where_did_any_other_subgroup_of_people_contribute_more_to_civilization/ Wow. "Subgroups". Now I am watching Andrea Mitchell standing in some sort of viewing balcony next to the stage, standing to speak in her bright fuchsia outfit, while whoever is sitting to her left (blonde, another network?) is giving Andrea the stinkeye. Lawrence O'D is saying that there was an "emotional link" to Hillary in the Pat Smith (mother) Benghazi speech, but no "actual link" to Hillary Clinton. Really, Lawrence? You might want to listen to that again. "Weaponization of grief." Is that Steve Schmidt who is saying that? Edited July 19, 2016 by jjj 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2414972
Ohwell July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 (edited) Quote The Washington Post reports this: QUOTE ... There are two soap opera stars: Antonio Sabato Jr. of "General Hospital" fame and Kimberlin Brown of "The Young and the Restless" and "The Bold and the Beautiful" .. Thanks! So it's ol' crazy Sheila. I haven't seen her on the soap in ages. Edited July 19, 2016 by Ohwell 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2414974
jjj July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 (edited) One of the worst inventions ever is the round beige-colored foam cover for headset microphones. Chuck Todd looks like he needs to get to a dermatologist about that thing on his face. Edited July 19, 2016 by jjj 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2415006
Moose135 July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 38 minutes ago, Ohwell said: I won't be watching either the Republican or Democratic convention... I made it through about 2 minutes of Chachi's speech, then I went to find something else to watch. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2415021
Ohwell July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 I'm watching some high school reunion movie with Channing Tatum. It sucks pretty bad, but it's better than the convention. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2415029
jjj July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, Ohwell said: I'm watching some high school reunion movie with Channing Tatum. It sucks pretty bad, but it's better than the convention. I'll bet someone in that movie is one of the speakers tonight. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2415043
xaxat July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 It's so funny watching Chuck struggling to make sense of Trump's convention strategy. The wheels in his head are spinning so fast they are throwing off smoke. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2415045
Ohwell July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 5 minutes ago, jjj said: I'll bet someone in that movie is one of the speakers tonight. Well it also has Chris Pratt before he got in shape, Justin Long, Oscar Isaacs, Rosario Dawson, Anthony Mackie, Kate Mara, and a host of others. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2415057
represent July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 (edited) Glad I switched the channel back just in time for the highlight of the evening, Melania Trump's plagiarism, of Mrs. Obama's speech. Gotta love it, all the shit they say about Michelle Obama...beautiful, LOL. CNN trying to treat her with kid gloves. I'm glad Van Jones cut in and said that if this were Michelle Obama nobody would be treating her with kid gloves, Joy Reid said the exact same thing. The bigger problem is, that even if you wanted to cut her some slack, she already gave an interview with NBC saying that she wrote speech, that no one helped her with it. Edited July 19, 2016 by represent 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2415585
jjj July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, represent said: Glad I switched the channel back, just in time for the high light of the evening, Melania Trump's plagarism, of Mrs. Obama's speech. Gotta love it, all the shit they say about Michelle Obama...beautiful, LOL. CNN trying to treat her with kid gloves. I'm glad Van Jones cut in and said that if this were Michelle Obama nobody would be treating her with kid gloves.. This is a real cherry on top of a pile of sludge. I think the commenter (with Chris Mathews) who said the Trump campaign is "furious" with the media for focusing on this has the real take of the Trump machine. So rich, that it is not just plagiarized from another First Lady, but Michelle Obama, whom they vilify. Oh, wait, did I just quote one of the reporters!? Why not borrow from Laura Bush? Oh, my and now they are showing Melania saying "I wrote it, with as little help as possible." She really did volunteer that; Matt Lauer did not ask her if she wrote it. (And we know these big speeches are written by speechwriters, no problem with that.) Man, MSNBC is really irritated at the guy waving the poster behind their reporters on the floor! Edited July 19, 2016 by jjj 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2415593
GHScorpiosRule July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 10 hours ago, Moose135 said: I made it through about 2 minutes of Chachi's speech, then I went to find something else to watch. Not Chachi! Bad enough I'd heard Jagger was going to be there. A little, okay, a good chunk of my tween/teen years just died. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2415885
NewDigs July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 7 hours ago, jjj said: This is a real cherry on top of a pile of sludge. I think the commenter (with Chris Mathews) who said the Trump campaign is "furious" with the media for focusing on this has the real take of the Trump machine. So rich, that it is not just plagiarized from another First Lady, but Michelle Obama, whom they vilify. Oh, wait, did I just quote one of the reporters!? Why not borrow from Laura Bush? Oh, my and now they are showing Melania saying "I wrote it, with as little help as possible." She really did volunteer that; Matt Lauer did not ask her if she wrote it. (And we know these big speeches are written by speechwriters, no problem with that.) Man, MSNBC is really irritated at the guy waving the poster behind their reporters on the floor! Bolding mine. I cracked up yesterday late afternoon early evening watching a guy who was practically a jack-in-the-box behind Chris Hayes. His placard was something anti-socialism, and it made no sense to me, but that guy had some springer legs and some serious tenacity. He managed to jump up to Hayes's level! But it did get old. And irritating. I was starting to pay more attention to the jumping-guy. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2415917
Milburn Stone July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 The banner that calls everything BREAKING NEWS has really got to go. I tuned in and saw BREAKING NEWS: MOM BLAMES HILLARY FOR SON'S BENGHAZI DEATH, and naturally assumed this was a real news event, rather than just another stupid moment from a stupid speech. From then on, every single thing that happened at the convention was bannered with BREAKING NEWS. No, MSNBC, you're not really ginning up excitement that way. You're just disgracing yourselves. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2416385
Mumbles July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 I must say, one of the benefits (the only one?) of the Trump campaign is that his refusal to rely on the same old stable of GOP consultants and press flacks means that these hacks on cable and network news have to do some REAL work. If the campaign was more conventional they would be having the professional hacks from the campaign on and slap everyone's back and have a jolly good laugh about everything. But Trump doesn't have these people - Manafort is the closest to one - so these panelists actually have to listen to the speeches (some of them insane) and provide their own analysis and commentary. Even Cackles Wallace was bemoaning the lack of political professionals in the campaign. Gee, it doesn't look like their absence has held back Trump that much. In addition to all the fears people have about a Trump administration, I am sure a prominent one in DC is that he has shown how useless the professional hackery is. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2416390
nowandlater July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 10 hours ago, jjj said: Man, MSNBC is really irritated at the guy waving the poster behind their reporters on the floor! What about the dog puppet? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2416451
jjj July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 1 hour ago, nowandlater said: What about the dog puppet? I completely missed the dog puppet! Thanks! They were going for the weirdest camera angles to try to get rid of the posters -- at one point showing only Joy's nose over her back right shoulder while she was talking. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2416742
nowandlater July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 33 minutes ago, jjj said: I completely missed the dog puppet! Thanks! They were going for the weirdest camera angles to try to get rid of the posters -- at one point showing only Joy's nose over her back right shoulder while she was talking. This is a great video showing Triumph the Insult Comic Dog and his companion Robert Smigel trying to crash the various cable news liveshots. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2416836
Mumbles July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 Yay Triumph! I was wondering if he was there. (seriously check out his election special on Hulu. It's great!) 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2416855
Ohwell July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 On a shallow note, I wasn't feeling Melania Trump's dress, especially the puffed sleeves. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2417149
Guest July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 2 hours ago, Ohwell said: On a shallow note, I wasn't feeling Melania Trump's dress, especially the puffed sleeves. I thought it was pretty out of place for the occasion. I don't really know what occasion it would be good for, but that convention certainly wasn't it. I don't know whether it was MSNBC or not, but I saw a clip online earlier today where Tamryn Hall was interviewing Chachi (I guess he took some time off from making America "America" again, whateverthefuck that means) and was taking him to the woodshed for blocking her on Twitter. He said it was "a mistake." I love Tamryn but I wish these people would get off the petty, 7th-grade, "You blocked me on Twitter and now you're going to DIE!" nonsense. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2417482
Rick Kitchen July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 8 minutes ago, Giant Misfit said: I thought it was pretty out of place for the occasion. I don't really know what occasion it would be good for, but that convention certainly wasn't it. I don't know whether it was MSNBC or not, but I saw a clip online earlier today where Tamryn Hall was interviewing Chachi (I guess he took some time off from making America "America" again, whateverthefuck that means) and was taking him to the woodshed for blocking her on Twitter. He said it was "a mistake." I love Tamryn but I wish these people would get off the petty, 7th-grade, "You blocked me on Twitter and now you're going to DIE!" nonsense. That wasn't the gist of her conversation. She was actually raking him over the coals for claiming that he was a Christian, after he had posted a picture of Michelle Obama with the caption, "This is what he has to wake up to in the morning" and a picture of Hillary in front of a sign with the word COUNT with her head blocking the O. Chachi had claimed he had written his convention speech in church, and she asked him if those tweets were sent out while he was in church, too. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2417509
Guest July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 Yeah, I saw the offensive Michelle tweet that he blew off as, "Hey, I'm just some mook from Brooklyn..." but missed the C-word Hillary one because I couldn't stand watching Chachi anymore and clicked off the video. Regardless, I just don't think someone as intelligent as Tamryn Hall should give a shit about knuckle-dragging Chachi's Twitter blocking habits. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2417523
jjj July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 (edited) Since MSNBC showed (at least three times, more, I am sure) the Mrs. Trump/Matt Lauer interview, here is more background on the various writers who have helped with drafts over the past month, starting with two GW Bush speechwriters who wrote a draft a month ago, although they said all that remained was the introduction and a few words at the end, after the campaign decided it needed to be shorter, and worked on it within the "Trump organization" (not sure if that means the campaign or the business, or if there is even much difference). Fun that the campaign is blaming HRC for stirring up this controversy, when all I see is MSNBC, CNN, and major newspapers writing about it without any quotes from HRC: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/us/politics/melania-trump-speech.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=photo-spot-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0 This is so gross (below)! -- like sixth-grade mini-thugs shouting slurs in the playground from the jungle-gym: 39 minutes ago, Rick Kitchen said: That wasn't the gist of her conversation. She was actually raking him over the coals for claiming that he was a Christian, after he had posted a picture of Michelle Obama with the caption, "This is what he has to wake up to in the morning" and a picture of Hillary in front of a sign with the word COUNT with her head blocking the O. Chachi had claimed he had written his convention speech in church, and she asked him if those tweets were sent out while he was in church, too. Edited July 19, 2016 by jjj 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2417594
represent July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 Quote Fun that the campaign is blaming HRC for stirring up this controversy, when all I see is MSNBC, CNN, and major newspapers writing about it without any quotes from HRC: LOL Why let quotes and hard facts/proof get in the way of a "Hillary did it..." story? If they say she did it, it's gotta be true. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2417658
jjj July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 And it was just a few days ago on MSNBC that Rep. Steve King said the "subgroups" have not made the contributions to civilization that whites have done. Um, so how does Mrs. Trump appropriating the phrases of Michelle Obama fit into that narrative, Rep. King? Could it be that the brilliant voices of the "subgroups" were appropriated by whites all throughout this rollercoaster ride of civilization that you understand so well? 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2417675
magdalene July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 I laughed my head off about Melania Trump plagiarizing Michelle Obama. This is about all of this convention I can stand without throwing up so I am escaping to my pay channels. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2417719
stormy July 19, 2016 Share July 19, 2016 The more I hear Mrs. Donald J. Trump's voice, I'm reminded of the character Lina from "Singin in the Rain". 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2417724
3pwood July 20, 2016 Share July 20, 2016 17 minutes ago, stormy said: The more I hear Mrs. Donald J. Trump's voice, I'm reminded of the character Lina from "Singin in the Rain". I'm reminded of the Garbor sisters (any of them, plus their mama). 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2417773
NewDigs July 20, 2016 Share July 20, 2016 (edited) It almost looked like Chuck Todd had to wipe his eyes 'cuz he, and CM, were having such a good laugh at the juxtaposition of Mitch McConnell's speech and every single previous speaker. I laughed. ETA I forgot. Earlier I heard BriWi do a Yoda. I'm can't remember who he was talking about. "His first rodeo, this is not," Edited July 20, 2016 by NewDigs Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2417929
jjj July 20, 2016 Share July 20, 2016 (edited) One thing I like about the MSNBC panel is that they seemed actually relieved to be able to say good things about Donald Trump Jr. I muted his speech, but they certainly were admiring. Big oops for them -- apparently miscalculating when Dr. Ben Carson would be speaking, and went to commercial as he was walking onstage. They showed him in an inset while the world's longest Lyrica commercial tooted along, then came back to a full RED screen that told us "BREAKING NEWS" -- which was that Dr. Carson had come on stage while Lyrica paid their salaries. CNN covered his speech from the start. I'm still muting... And apparently they have given up on learning the names of "D" list speakers. RIght now the banner is reading "SOAP STAR ADDRESSES CONVENTION" -- and of course it is "BREAKING NEWS"! Edited July 20, 2016 by jjj 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2418168
jjj July 20, 2016 Share July 20, 2016 (edited) Chris Mathews made a reference to "jumping the shark", which I thought was an homage to Garry Marshall, whose death was announced in the past hour. But no. Then Chris asked the 20-something next to him "Do you know where 'jump the shark' came from?" "No." Chris: "Welcome back Kotter!" Then someone was apparently screaming into his headset, because he then said "Oh no, no, it was Happy Days!" And a minute after that, Chris said, "Who brought up 'jump the shark'?", and they all agreed it was Chris. He said, "Did you know Garry Marshall died today? He invented that." Now, that part is true, and I thank the person at the other end of that headset! (RIP, Garry Marshall -- you gave us all amazing films and television series!) Edited July 20, 2016 by jjj 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3523-msnbc-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-vaulted/page/21/#findComment-2418556
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