S08.E04: Rocky Boat Horror Show

[Tara Ariano]

Kenya makes a surprise visit to Chateau Sheree and is astonished by what she discovers. Elsewhere, Cynthia reaches out to Kandi about her marriage; and Kenya hosts a day trip on a boat with the ladies, but Cynthia and Porsha make waves when they clash.

[Ubiquitous]

Ugh, I just can't stand Porsha and her THOT ways. MLK and her grandfather (or whoever was in the Civil Rights marches) are not just spinning in their graves, they're roto-rooting the graveyard!

Speaking of classless punks, who the hell was that pestering Kandi to help her talentless son? How did that interloper sneak onto the boat with them?

It looks like the rumors of Cynthia starting the fracas were wrong. What a shocker. Porsha dear, you were sppsd to apologize, not antagonize Cynthia!

Edited November 30, 2015 by Ubiquitous

[Sheenieb]

That escalated quickly.

 

Cynthia was clearly drunk. That's the only explanation for her going all the way to the left in regards to Porsha. Shots, plus pent up frustrations about Peter, made Cynthia act super out of character.

 

After hanging out with this group, I wouldn't be surprised if Kim Fields was like:

 

I see Kenya is still doing her patented throw rocks and hide her hands. She's always low-key shady, yet, clutches her pearls when someone comes for her.

Edited November 30, 2015 by Sheenieb

[Ubiquitous]

After hanging out with this group, I wouldn't be surprised if Kim Fields was like:

Bwah! I loved the look on Kim's face as she witnessed this all unfold. Edited November 30, 2015 by Ubiquitous

[ridethemaverick]

Cynthia is clearly taking out her Peter frustration on who she sees as the easiest target. That's the only explanation for that foolishness.

[Sai]

Cynthia went overboard with her reaction.  Porsha looked baffled when Cynthia freaked.  She had no idea why Cynthia got so upset.  Everyone was even telling Cynthia that she took it the wrong way.  I think Cynthia should have apologized to Porsha for over reacting and starting an argument over nothing.  Ugh.....I used to like Cynthia but I haven't liked for the past two season now.  No, I can't stand her.  That's a more accurate description.  Over the past few seasons we've all seen her freak more than once over nothing big.  She's nuts.  Maybe it's Peter doing it to her.  Who knows.  She should ditch the douche and get back to normal.  

[Box305]

Kenya: 

 

[SpringTulips]

Uuugh, have to wait for the fight.  But the preview of Porsha getting tackled by some man with her legs flailing looks intriguing.

 

Speaking of Porsha, I laughed through that scene of her getting all dressed in lingerie and full makeup for a half naked chat, texting Duke, and Duke was all ghost. Why would you do that on tv unless you were 100,000 percent sure your man would be on the other end.

 

But I am glad she got Phaedra to let her know to stop embarrassing herself.

Edited November 30, 2015 by SpringTulips

[WireWrap]

Kenya: 

 

LOL Kenya has thrown shade on everyone at their events yet is outraged when someone does it to her! She really needs to get over herself and stop with the very bad overacting. I see why she was a flop as an actress.

[swankie]

Ugh, I just can't stand Porsha and her THOT ways. MLK and her grandfather (or whoever was in the Civil Rights marches) are not spinning in their graves, they're roto-rooting the braveyard!

Speaking of classless punks, who the hell was that pestering Kandi to help her talentless son? How did that interloper sneak onto the boat with them?

It looks like the rumors of Cynthia starting the fracas were wrong. What a shocker. Porsha dear, you were sppsd to apologize, not antagonize Cynthia!

 

It's funny how people see things differently, but I thought Cynthia was dead wrong in this whole thing.  Everyone on the boat besides Kim called her a bitch at one point or another and she chose Porsha to call out as being disrespectful?!  Bitch please! (pun intended)  Porsha made it clear she didn't mean it in a mean way.  She wasn't even sure Cynthia was really mad at first.  I think Cynthia decided to be mad at Porsha when she was doing her Jamaican accent and it made her feel some kind of way.  She decided to take her bad feelings about Peter out on Porsha. 

 

And that classless punk that was pestering Kandi was Cynthia's guest.  I thought it was even more classless for Kenya to call out Porsha's friend and make her feel so unwelcome in front of everyone.  That was childish and just plain classless.  She didn't bat an eye when Cynthia brought her classless and ignorant (Nazi white?!...Really?!) friend without an invite so why cause bad air by trying to make Porsha's friend feel bad.  Kenya needs to really grow up.  She's making me miss Nene soooooo much!

[HunterHunted]

I was wondering if anyone else saw that. Cynthia's face went real sour at the Jamaican accent. I think that plus all of the booze made Cynthia go to 11.

[SpringTulips]

Cynthia went overboard with her reaction.  Porsha looked baffled when Cynthia freaked.

 

I did not see it that way. Cynthia was probably a little lit with alcohol, stressed about the Peter situation.  But she walked away from Porsha.  When Porsha went over to her, she repeatedly let Porsha know her attempt at apologizing was not working and she should leave her space.

 

(BTW who the hell goes to apologize to someone by saying they have no reason to apologize??/?....Oh yeah, Porsha)

Edited November 30, 2015 by SpringTulips

[Neurochick]

Dear Cynthia,

Porsha isn't stupid because she didn't marry a douche like Peter.

Love, Neurochick

[announcergirl]

Oh my goodness, could Cynthia be any more wrong than she was tonight?! Porsche was laughing with her all day and out of the blue she [Cynthia] decides to get offended and turn up. Surely we missed something. And then when Porshe went over to smooth things over, she couldn't comprehend. I will say Porshe doesn't quite understand apologies yet. She has some ill definition of when to issue one and how. Last words: Cynthis used her friend's presence that day to stand up and not feel powerless. Wrong place; wrong time; wrong situation.

[Neurochick]

I wish they would have thrown both Kenya and Cynthia off that boat. Funny when Porsha said, "that last drink made Cynthia think I was Peter."

Cynthia is beyond stupid, she's either stupid or insane to marry a loser with 456746 baby mamas.

[ToukieSmith]

I did not see it that way. Cynthia was probably a little lit with alcohol, stressed about the Peter situation.  But she walked away from Porsha.  When Porsha went over to her, she repeatedly let Porsha know her attempt at apologizing was not working and she should leave her space.

 

(BTW who the hell goes to apologize to someone by saying they have no reason to apologize??/?....Oh yeah, Porsha)

 

Cynthia took the exchange wrong, but Porsha should have stayed away from her.  Sheree's advice was on point and Porsha should have listened.  Cynthia did ask Porsha to go over there (away from her) multiple times.

 

I loved Sheree's outfit; I think she was best dressed.

 

LOL, Kim brought a book with her -  I would have done the same thing.

Edited November 30, 2015 by ToukieSmith

[SpringTulips]

LOL, Kim brought a book with her -  I would have done the same thing.

 

 

From the library nonetheless, lol.  I am really liking her on this show.

[appledumpling]

I heard "Who Bitch" not "Whatever Bitch" in reply to Cynthia saying other people in the group were best friends also.  Cynthia felt some type of way about them saying her and Kenya were best friends,  Why would that bother her?  She was already in her feelings when Porsha said "Who Bitch".

[SpringTulips]

Cynthia felt some type of way about them saying her and Kenya were best friends,  Why would that bother her?  She was already in her feelings when Porsha said "Who Bitch".

 

Because Porsha was saying it to be shady. 

Edited November 30, 2015 by SpringTulips

[islandgal140]

Damn everything else, the most important bit of useless information learned tonight was Kim "Tootie" Fields is a screamer and don't wear no drawers.

 

Kenya is the very definition of can dish it but can't take it.  According to her, she is never the aggressor, never is the 1st to make digs or throw shade. I really dislike her. Normally, I would look sideways at a Shamea coming on the show and acting all extra looking for a peach but since she is tussling with Kenya, I'm here rooting her on.

 

To top it all of Kenya is just altogether rude and a terrible hostess.  She sounded just like Nene. Really coming for the Queen?  I am all for women thinking highly of themselves, but this whole I'm a Queen BS needs to die a fiery death.

 

Porsha looked a right fool with her new plastic bags upheld by that rhinestone bra waiting for Dookie (how apropos) to call. But I must stay her TH have been life giving. Her simple 'Da Fuck!" after Tammy saying her husband was Nazi white was oxygen to my lungs. Speaking of which I loved how after she said that everybody 

was like - um, I'm gonna stand on the other side of the boat. She was over there by her damn self. Great plus 1 Cynthia.

 

Kim trying to sneak off and read a book and her snacks she brought in her tupperware was funny and cute and shows just how naive she is about this grand experiment she signed up for. I hate her hair but Kim has a very youthful face. Kenya saying she was 50 - bitch bye. I wonder what would happen if strangers were shown a picture of them both and tell which when was older. 

 

Cynthia is super sensitive about the b-word isn't she? Wasn't that what she claimed was the last straw between her and Nene. Nene calling Peter what he was - a bitch? It is funny, Cynthia was able to talk all rationally with Peter and act like a boss but she totally lost her shit over some inane nothing comment said by Porsha? Porsha can't de-escalate for shit but I thought Cynthia was the bigger asshole but I think I should reserve my judgement until I see how it all pops off next week. 

 

I loved Cynthia's floral dress she wore to Kandi's house. Porsha looked nice at the adult store. Loved the red shoe with gold heel.

 

Kandi's living room looks like a brothel's receiving room.

[Petunia13]

Oh my goodness, could Cynthia be any more wrong than she was tonight?! Porsche was laughing with her all day and out of the blue she [Cynthia] decides to get offended and turn up. Surely we missed something. And then when Porshe went over to smooth things over, she couldn't comprehend. I will say Porshe doesn't quite understand apologies yet. She has some ill definition of when to issue one and how. Last words: Cynthis used her friend's presence that day to stand up and not feel powerless. Wrong place; wrong time; wrong situation.

I feel like Cynthia consistently picks the weirdest things or wrong situations to get upset about or make drama over ( ex: blaming Nene for her marriage failures, Mr Chocolate, other more trivial shit) while the big issues are serious concerns she doesn't address.

[cooksdelight]

Kandi's living room looks like a brothel's receiving room.

This will never not be funny. Or not true. :)

[Empress1]

I'm definitely in the "Cynthia was dead wrong" camp. Like Kandi said, they all call each other "bitch" all the livelong day, so I don't know why this one caused Cynthia to pop off. Porsha didn't even know Cynthia was actually mad. I think she was drunk and Porsha's Jamaican accent had her in her feelings, and she snapped. Loved her simple dress though (although from the previews she appears to be wearing some black footless tights under it, which ... why?).

 

The hangers-on were both doing too much. Porsha was rude for bringing a guest, but Kenya was rude for calling it out in front of everyone. Ms. Blonde Rat-Tail with her Nazi White husband needed to take a seat. (I liked her dress too - I was like "Oh, cute" and then she started talking.) I LOVED how Kandi was like "You ain't finna leave me with this woman!"

 

Sooo ... Blonde Rat Tail and Bob are best friends. Sheree clearly can't stand her, given how cold she was when she saw her on the boat. Wonder if she and Bob ever crossed the best friend line?

 

I did not need to know that Regine Hunter screams like a banshee during orgasm (although I do remember her getting caught with Khalil Cain on the roof though ...)*, that she doesn't wear underwear, and that she's never experimented with sex toys. Her eldest son is adorable, talking about "Hi Miss Phaedra," calling her ma'am, and introducing his little brother, who he seems to love. That did look like a fun play date! She has got to be calling her agent every night like "What have you gotten me into?"

 

*Living Single reference, for those who didn't watch the show. One of my all-time favorite sitcoms.

[swankie]

I thought Cynthia was the bigger asshole but I think I should reserve my judgement until I see how it all pops off next week.

 

 

Cynthia kills me!  She talks waving her hands all in somebody's face when she's mad, but has the nerve to say, "You better get your hands out my face!" when the other person does it.  She did the same thing to Kandi at Nene's pajama party and caused Kandi to lose her shit.  I don't think Cynthia even realizes she's doing it.  Plus, I don't think she should expect an apology from someone after she's called them dumb during the exchange. 

[Granimal]

Did we really just hear Phaedra agree with Kim Fields about the group showing too much "boobage" & how they should being class back? She said, "Just because you can doesn't mean you should," regarding showing cleavage. Phaedra of the infamous struggle titties (as I think they were referred to here)?  That was the most shocking part of the episode for me.

 

That being said, I found Phaedra's talk with Kim touching. Seeing Kim shed some tears over how she may have lost herself within her kids and her marriage felt very real to me. That's a real problem that many real housewives face.

Edited November 30, 2015 by Granimal

[Maharincess]

Damn everything else, the most important bit of useless information learned tonight was Kim "Tootie" Fields is a screamer and don't wear no drawers.

I haven't seen the episode yet but please tell me she didn't say it like that. I like Kim, if she starts speaking like a moron with the double negatives and shit, my like of her will fade fast.

[LibertarianSlut]

From the library nonetheless, lol.  I am really liking her on this show.

Yes, a library book! No Kindle there. I love it. It really rubbed me the wrong way when Kenya threw the Tupperware overboard. First of all, you're freaking littering. And it looks like trash. In a lake that you're on. Second of all, it's not your property! Those little Tupperware are easy to lose, so when you have a good set, you don't need anybody tossing them into the lake.

I thought it was a small thing, but I liked that Kim took the time to discipline her kid when they were in the pool. The lifeguard can enforce safety, and teach skills, but it's really hard to discipline a kid when his mom is right there. So, brava.

Speaking of the pool, this was my favorite scene:

Kim: I want to bring back class.

Phaedra [in a translucent dress with white thong]: Mm-hmm, yes chile.

That's all the snark I have for Phaedra though. She looked really good tonight. And youthful.

I wasn't surprised Kenya tried to have Shemea escorted from the boat. This is the same woman who, in S5, kicked Porsha out of a party for not dressing up as the Halle Berry character of her choice. I generally like Kenya, but sometimes she makes me SMH. It's like her basic human needs are food, shelter, water, clothing, and a fight with someone.

I thought Kandi looked as pretty as she ever did on the bus to the lake with Kim. I was not cool with the way that rat-tail--Tammy, was it?--basically manhandled Kandi about doing something with her son. Yeah, I believe she didn't know what shade was...Kandi, don't do it! Don't set up a meeting with this trashy woman and her son. Not unless you want to want to be in another lawsuit.

And I never thought I'd say this about a Cynthia/Porsha dust-up, but...Cynthia was wrong y'all. I think she was drunk and over sensitive and bracing for a fight. Porsha genuinely seemed confused and conciliatory. That being said, what did Porsha mean that, if she gets up, it'll be a whole different story?? Ugh, that girl goes from THOT to thug way too fast. Next week it takes a grown man to hold her down?!? I'm willing to concede there may have been some things cut by the editors, and maybe there was more to the exchange than what we've seen. Maybe Cynthia actually is not wrong. But next week will be the second time in this show's history that Porsha is in a physical fight with someone. Didn't having a mug shot teach her anything? If there is something in your life that continuously vexes you, such as is apparently the case for Porsha and this show, just quit. It's not good for anyone to continually get into physical altercations.

I thought Kenya's jeans were too tight when she walked over to visit Chateau Sheree. Her yellow dress with the slits down the top front did not do any favors to a busty woman. Cynthia's dress that she wore to Kandi's house was pretty, but I didn't think the cut was as on point as the outfits she usually wears. It was too boobalicious. It looked like something Tyra Banks would wear on America's Next Top Model, and, believe me, that's not a compliment. She looks really pretty in her THs, though, with the curly hair.

[Empress1]

No, she says she doesn't like underwear when Kandi suggests vibrating underwear as an entry into the sex toy world, and that she's not quiet when her husband "takes [her] there." All correct grammar. :)

[represent]

That escalated quickly.

 

Cynthia was clearly drunk. That's the only explanation for her going all the way to the left in regards to Porsha. Shots, plus pent up frustrations about Peter, made Cynthia act super out of character.

 

After hanging out with this group, I wouldn't be surprised if Kim Fields was like:

 

I see Kenya is still doing her patented throw rocks and hide her hands. She's always low-key shady, yet, clutches her pearls when someone comes for her.

LOL, thank you. Homer Simpson has told me all I need to know. 

[ToukieSmith]

Kandi's living room looks like a brothel's receiving room.

 

Well, she is always about cross promoting her brand.......

 

She needs to heed Cynthia's advise on the restaurant business.  That seems like a money pit for folks who don't have the experience running that type of business.

 

Phaedra gives me whiplash.  In one scene, she is playing her THOT role with Porsha.  In the next scene, she has her prayer cloth on her thighs (figuratively) and agreeing with Kim that there are too many boobs on display.  I am side eyeing Kim a bit over her "I lost myself" bit.  I did not believe Kim for a second in that fake cry she squeezed out.

[SpringTulips]

Ok, that ridiculous woman on the boat got me curious with "Drop Hey, Turn Up, Turn Up...."  So I spent time tonight and found this.  I need to do better.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuZpuv8xvfM#t=69

Edited November 30, 2015 by SpringTulips

[Maharincess]

No, she says she doesn't like underwear when Kandi suggests vibrating underwear as an entry into the sex toy world, and that she's not quiet when her husband "takes [her] there." All correct grammar. :)

I'm very happy to hear that. The way some of the women on these shows speak makes me cringe.

[ridethemaverick]

No, she says she doesn't like underwear when Kandi suggests vibrating underwear as an entry into the sex toy world, and that she's not quiet when her husband "takes [her] there." All correct grammar. :)

And even if it wasn't, who cares? Standard American English has it's place but it's not the sole measure of a person's intelligence.

Kenya's ass is hideous. What was she thinking when she bought that thing? It looked like a box in those jeans when she went to Sheree's house.

Speaking of, that house is gorgeous and so is Sheree's body. Nice and muscular but also curvy. A little too thick for me but it looks good on her.

They have a month left. I predict Kenya will win, but I don't know how big of a win it will be at the bottom of a ravine or wherever she is.

[Petunia13]

They have a month left. I predict Kenya will win, but I don't know how big of a win it will be at the bottom of a ravine or wherever she is.

21 Serial Killer Street

[Ororo Monroe]

It's funny how people see things differently, but I thought Cynthia was dead wrong in this whole thing.  Everyone on the boat besides Kim called her a bitch at one point or another and she chose Porsha to call out as being disrespectful?!  Bitch please! (pun intended)  Porsha made it clear she didn't mean it in a mean way.  She wasn't even sure Cynthia was really mad at first.  I think Cynthia decided to be mad at Porsha when she was doing her Jamaican accent and it made her feel some kind of way.  She decided to take her bad feelings about Peter out on Porsha. 

 

This exactly. Cynthia was being really messy and it didn't help that everyone had been drinking a lot. And Kenya was being so extra. "I didn't invite you". You also didn't invite the blonde chick talking about her "Nazi white husband" but somehow she gets a pass? Kenya just gets mad whenever someone isn't kissing her ass and it is really wack for someone her age to be acting that way.

[swankie]

Kenya's ass is hideous. What was she thinking when she bought that thing? It looked like a box in those jeans when she went to Sheree's house.

 

Speaking of, that house is gorgeous and so is Sheree's body. Nice and muscular but also curvy. A little too thick for me but it looks good on her.

 

 

Kenya can claim her ass is all her own all she wants, there is no way that thing is real.  It almost looks like it's trying to detach itself from her.  LOL!

 

I couldn't tell if Sheree was really that thick, or if it was just my television making her look that way.  To me, she looks a little too manly.  She didn't used to look that way.

Edited November 30, 2015 by swankie

[appledumpling]

 

Because Porsha was saying it to be shady.

 

I didn't see shade, I saw playful teasing that Cynthia took the wrong way.

 

 

 

Those little Tupperware are easy to lose, so when you have a good set, you don't need anybody tossing them into the lake.

 

I had a problem with this also, who the hell does she think she is?  If somebody tossed her stuff we would never hear the end of it.

 

Also Kim looks great at 46 and having just had a baby a year or so ago.

[Maharincess]

And even if it wasn't, who cares? Standard American English has it's place but it's not the sole measure of a person's intelligence.

Kenya's ass is hideous. What was she thinking when she bought that thing? It looked like a box in those jeans when she went to Sheree's house.

Speaking of, that house is gorgeous and so is Sheree's body. Nice and muscular but also curvy. A little too thick for me but it looks good on her.

They have a month left. I predict Kenya will win, but I don't know how big of a win it will be at the bottom of a ravine or wherever she is.

I know its not the sole measure of a person's intelligence. I didn't say that it was, but it still makes me cringe when I hear some of the Real Housewives speak.

I agree that the outside of Sheree's house is beautiful but I wonder what's going on on the inside. She sure didn't want Kenya going inside.

I love where Kenya's house is, I'm the opposite in that I live at the top of a remote hill but I like the seclusion. I hate having neighbors too close.

[sunsheyen]

Kim seems to enjoy her life, and I think that a part of the 'lost myself' is a story to allow her to work her way into the group a bit.

Shamea needs to go. Trying way too hard, but she's a friend of Porsha, so I don't expect much of her behavior. That said, Kenya didn't have to mention not inviting her multiple times or go ask the captain about kicking her off.

I can see how Porsha was being shady with her comment. It wasn't the 'bitch' that they colloquially used all day. However, Cynthia has heard much shadier (and dished it), and completely overreacted. Porsha needed to leave her alone, instead of all that 'you're going through something' condescending bullshit. Of course she's going through something, much like you did in the past couple of years. You know how it feels, so let it ride a bit after explaining yourself. Once again, Porsha shows her trashy thug side, which makes me lose any consideration I had for her in the beef. I love the shade of the editors this season, including Duke talking about wanting to leave the party and straight up ignoring her. I did feel a little bad when she talked about Lauren being pregnant and that being what Porsha 'should be' doing. Girl, that is not your worth. Besides, if it's what you really want, stop screwing married foreign playboys and little boys and find yourself a successful slightly older man who will be happy with a big butt and a smile.

Phaedra and those struggle bitties and pregnant pickle sucking and tonguing Apollo down during a double date and ReDICKulous self fellatio loving had the gall to sit up on the lanai talking about bringing class back? Girl, bye.

Kenya had no business polluting the lake with that Tupperware. I loved Kim and the book. She just knew she was about to have a kid free day, lounging in the sun. I wonder if she knew or watched beyond a surface scan the type of program she was getting involved with. Regarding Kenya's house, I'd much prefer the treed privacy she has than the bus stop view from Sheree's house. Speaking of which, how much will it cost to furnish, heat and cool that joker? If she ever gets in it on the show, I'd lay big money on us only seeing 3-4 rooms of all that space and everything else being empty.

I think Kandi is just trying to indulge Todd and make him feel like an entrepreneur/man of the house with the restaurant thing. She is nothing if not a reasonably shrewd business woman, and had to have researched the failure rate of restaurants. They'd be better off buying an already established place imo. As an aside, it seems that Don Juan has no idea of what his lane is, but then again, neither does Kandi.

I hope to never see Tammy again.

Edited November 30, 2015 by sunsheyen

[swankie]

I love where Kenya's house is, I'm the opposite in that I live at the top of a remote hill but I like the seclusion. I hate having neighbors too close.

 

 

I would be afraid of mudslides and floods if I lived in Kenya's house.  Sheree said it's at the bottom of a ravine.

 

I agree that the outside of Sheree's house is beautiful but I wonder what's going on on the inside. She sure didn't want Kenya going inside.

 

 

She ran with the quickness didn't she!  LOL!  And did I hear her say it doesn't have floors yet?  What the what?  Don't they usually put in floors and things before finishing the outside of a house?

[cooksdelight]

I'm glad others brought up Sheree's thickness, because I thought something was wrong with my TV. But I did laugh at her and Kenya with the bet on who's house will be finished first. And chasing each other down the street. I can only imagine what the neighbors thought when that was filmed.

Kenya, Porsha, Sheree and Phaedra have all grown in various places that looks strange.

[ridethemaverick]

I'm glad others brought up Sheree's thickness, because I thought something was wrong with my TV. But I did laugh at her and Kenya with the bet on who's house will be finished first. And chasing each other down the street. I can only imagine what the neighbors thought when that was filmed.

Kenya, Porsha, Sheree and Phaedra have all grown in various places that looks strange.

Maybe I'm still in a soul train awards high but that scene was really cute and fun to me. Most of the episode/boat trip was too. But they had to eventually earn their paychecks I guess.

I'm really enjoying Kim. Her normalcy is refreshing.

[SpringTulips]

I didn't see shade, I saw playful teasing that Cynthia took the wrong way.

 

 

I think it was shade.  She was doing the "that's your best friend" when the women were talking about Kenya kicking the uninvited guest off the boat.  She just tried to play all innocent because it went under the radar for most of the ladies.

 

With people who use words such as "bitch" freely, I believe tone for them is everything.  Yes, they use it as friendly banter, but they also use it when they are going in on someone.  The tone of Cynthia's and Porsha's conversation had changed when she was going on about Cynthia's relationship with Kenya, to Cynthia's displeasure.  Hence the upset when Porsha added the  "whatever bitch"

 

It also seemed that Porsha was doing a lot of pointing in Cynthia's face and then stood up to straddle over her.  

Edited November 30, 2015 by SpringTulips

[charming]

I thought Kenya was all about positivity and uplifting other women? So why did she try to say Kim Fields was 50? I can't stand her fake do nothing ass. She has nothing to offer except going after other women then acting like a victim when they don't want to interact with her.

[telemachus2]

Cynthia's friend Tammy/Miley was definitely obnoxious & pushy when she hounded Kandi re her rapper son, but why was Tammy's description of her own spouse as "nazi white" such an outrage?  Tasteless & awkward, yes, but more than that, I don't get - enlighten me, please.

Edited November 30, 2015 by telemachus2

[swankie]

Cynthia's friend Tammy/Miley was definitely obnoxious & pushy when she hounded Kandi re her rapper son, but why was Tammy's description of her own spouse as "nazi white" such an outrage?  Tasteless & awkward, yes, but more than that, I don't get - enlighten me, please.

 

I think it was treated as tasteless and awkward.  I didn't see any outrage.  It was just a strange thing to say about one's own husband.  I think everyone left Tammy to herself because she's pushy and weird.  Especially Kandi.  The woman was an affront to her.  She almost demanded that Kandi produce her son's here today/gone tomorrow Whip/Nae Nae wannabe song.

Edited November 30, 2015 by swankie

[KnotsLanding]

The most interesting part of this episode for me is that we finally meet Tammy. She was an official housewife and a cast photo even leaked with it. When Bravo announced the show they even captioned her in the picture although they edited her out of the final shot. It was literally a last minute cancellation. I was curious of how she was and I can see how she was a housewife. She seems very over the top and ratchet which is just want they want. Curious why they dropped her last minute though.

[swankie]

The most interesting part of this episode for me is that we finally meet Tammy. She was an official housewife and a cast photo even leaked with it. When Bravo announced the show they even captioned her in the picture although they edited her out of the final shot. It was literally a last minute cancellation. I was curious of how she was and I can see how she was a housewife. She seems very over the top and ratchet which is just want they want. Curious why they dropped her last minute though.

 

Maybe they dropped Tammy because she's best friends with Sheree's ex.  I don't think Bravo wants anything to do with Bob Whitfield.  His last appearance on this show wasn't very pleasant between him and Sheree.  It got almost physical with Sheree throwing water in his face.  Maybe for the sake of their children they feel it's best to keep them as far apart as possible.

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And even if it wasn't, who cares? Standard American English has it's place but it's not the sole measure of a person's intelligence.

 

No it's not but it would be nice to, on this show, see an educated black woman who can speak well to on this show. Kenya and Cynthia speak the best, but they still sound ignorant and classless many times.

 

 As regards to Kim's surprise at the revealing nature of the ladies' dress….I was glad to see someone state that a little modesty goes a long way to portraying the class these women seem to think they have. I love that she took a book and her snacks onboard….THAT shows me she's a real, down to earth person. I think she'd be a great true friend to get to know. Can't you be on reality TV and not act ignorant and have your boobs hanging out? Does everyone on this show have to drink and get drunk?

 

Someone needs to call Kenya out on her shade. She's pissed that Porsha's friend asked about the water in the bottles, I think she only asked because she really thought it was a tester….and perhaps even thought Kenya didn't know there was only water in the bottles -- which she admits she didn't know! Kenya is just pissed because she was embarrassed, that's all. I don't think the woman was throwing shade. She asked what she thought was a legitimate question…uh where's the product?! That launch party was a hot mess, pun intended. It just proved, yet again, that Kenya is a pretender -- all fake, smoke and mirrors. And what was Kenya doing by saying out loud Porsha's friend wasn't invited -- what was that other than trowing shade.

 

As for the fight on the boat….can't Porsha learn when to just get up and walk away? Cynthia told her more than once (as Phaedra might say) -- "Go on now, get away from me with that." And Porsha just kept arguing. I DO think Cynthia technically put her hands on Porsha first. NOT to fight her, but to just more her along and say, "enough already, now go." But then Porsha moved Cyntha's hands…Cynthia sort of "fought" Porsha's move, and it just got out of hand. We'll have to see next week if a camera angle really shows who truly "hit first."

 

Please tell me I'm not the only person who knows to DEscalate a situation -- by just walking away, or just stopping the arguing. After a certain point I'm just not going to continue a discussion with someone who's getting ignorant because I'm not going to engage with a fool. It's just not productive. There were sooo many points along the way…where the Porsha/Cynthia argument could have just been over.

Edited November 30, 2015 by selhars

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Please tell me I'm not the only person who knows to DEscalate a situation -- by just walking away, or just stopping the arguing. After a certain point I'm just not going to continue a discussion with someone who's getting ignorant because I'm not going to engage with a fool. It's just not productive. There were sooo many points along the way…where the Porsha/Cynthia argument could have just been over.

 

 

To me, Cynthia was the aggressor from the very beginning.  Even after she walked away, the others convinced Porsha to go over and try to make peace, but Cynthia wasn't having it.  Porsha did apologize at first, but Cynthia made light of it and started the whole thing again by belittling Porsha and calling her dumb.  Yes, Porsha should have just walked away at that point, but from the very beginning Cynthia was loaded for bear and went for Porsha like she had called Peter a bitch.